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FILE NAME: Raybestos-Manhattan (RBM)
DATE: 0000
DOC#: RBM127
DOCUMENT DESCRIPTION: Barry Castleman Notes, Typed - Saranac Correspondence
SARANAC CORRESPONDENCE
173A 171 169B
158 156 254
Letter January 19, ^944, Sumner Simpson to Gardner.
(G.) regarding desire to survey x-rays of Manhe*#^
employees.
Says it is okay but must not mention Raybestos-Manhattan
by name (copy to Van Brown).
Letter January 31, 1944 Gardner to S. Simpson regarding
Exhibit 173A agrees not to publish Raybestos-Manhattan
name.
Letter from Gardner to Ernest Muehleck, President,
Keasbey and Mattison Company, with copy to Van Brown.
Gardner apologizes for failing to render a report citing
wartime obligations.
"Evertime I see a case of asbestos or...
examine tissue from a few of the animals
that are still being sacrificed...I realize
n that I have not fulfilled my part of the
bargain."
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S. Simpson to Brown, April 15, 1948, denying the fact
that "industry could not possibly get a report" on
Dr. Gardner's work.
Brown to Muehleck (K & M) April 26, 1948, regarding
impending report of Gardner's - says Johns-Manville and
Raybestos-Manhattan "favor a review of the report by a
small committee prior to its being released to the entire
group."
Letter November 10, 1936, S. Simpson to Schulter, President
of Thermal Rubber regarding proposal for Saranac experi
ments cites need for data in the Court Rooms to support
their position. Cites cost IF- 000 per year generally
paid for by industry/.
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Concern is expressed over
of asbestos exposure
^^egarding/T.B.
"My own idea is that it thing to distribute the
would be a good information among
T.^.)tL
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medical fraternity, providing it is of the right type and would not injure our companies."
Suggests a meeting of Johns-Manville, Raybestos-Manhattan,
Keasbey and Mattison, Asbestos Manufacturing, Thermal,
and Russell Manufacturing.
NOTE :
[This is typical of industry. On three occasions, they reject cancer studies until they can secure correct affiliation which produced the disreputed Braun and Truan 1958 Paper. (See Huepers fanning of same in 1964, N.Y.A. of S. ysjnnals.) This, "coirrect affiliation" approach was articulated in ATI minutes by Ivan Sabourjp/of Q.A.M.A.]
252 & 255 Are carbons of 254 to Keasbey and Mattison (255) and
Asbestos Manufacturing Company (252).
241
Letter January 2, 1937 Gardner to S.Simpson regarding
Saranac radiologist going to North Carolina to assist
in diagnosis of x-rays.
221h , 227B, 227C, 227D ARE ALL RELATED TO FINAL AGREEMENT OF SARANAC.
227A
Brown to S. Simpson February 27, 1937, outlining
participants, portion of fee, and manner of payment.
227B
November 20, 1936, Brown to Gardner regarding terms of
agreement:
Refers to meeting between Gardner, Lanza, McConnell and
Brown. Lists goals of experiments:
1. Concentration necessary to trigger disease.
2. Is pre-existing infection necessary to produce the
disease.
3. Is the fibrosis progressive.
4. What in asbestos causes the disease?
5. Are asbestos bodies important diagnostically?
Sets for financial arrangementst$5,000 per year times
three = $15,000.
"It is our further understanding that the results obtained will be considered the property of those who are advancing the required funds, who will determine whether, to what extent and in what manner
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they shall be made public. In the event it is deemed desirable that the results be made public, the manuscript of your study will be submitted to us for approval prior to publication."
227C
Letter Gardner to Brown agreeing to terms as expressed in
227B.
"The Saranac Laboratory agrees that the results of these studies shall become the property of the contributors and that the manuscripts of any reports shall be submitted for approval of the contributors before publication."
227D
Memo of agreement between sponsoring companies.
222
S.Simpson to Brown, September 27, 1937, regarding early
results being encouraging.
221
Reply to 222 - Brown to S. Simpson, September 29, 1937.
Concerned over report that one injection of asbestos
, 21 1 212
caused the immediate death of an animal. 210, 209, 205A and B - ALL RELATE TO DR. KENNETH LYNCH'S
ANALYSIS OF ONE OF THE SARANAC INTERIM REPORTS:
205B
Letter May 6, 1938, Lynch to Julian Mitchell, Esq., regard
ing Gardner's preliminary report.
"It all goes to show that the only thing that can yet be positively stated is that in the human sufficient exposure to asbestos dust will cause asbestos, but what constitutes sufficient exposure still remains subject to lack of complete know ledge."
Suggests the implementation of precaution ary meausres in departments where the "dust is coarser although even apparently less in amount."
"I do not think that Dr. Gardner's experi ments have any practical bearing on whether there is such a thing as asbestosis."
Lynch then refers to an article Jeffords gave him from
S. Africa stating there was no asbestosis there.
"All I can conclude is from this extract is that apparently under the conditions existing there, the exposure is insufficient."
NOTE
205A 211
212 210 209
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Disagrees with Van Brown suggestion that Dr. Gardner's experiments would negative the claim that the fibrosis is progressive. Calls for further examination of the problem.
"I get stimulation from the S. African report to again remind that no one can know what the hazard here is until the same sort of examination of workers is done here. 1. Dr. Lynch in 1955 again restated his position that TLV's were not fine lines between disease and non disease. 2. Dr. Lynch is pleading for experimental studies to determine whether a risk exists. None were sponsored by industry Gardner to S. Simpson, May 19, 1938., regarding Lynch ' well acquainted that Lynch has very positive ideas. S. Simpson to Gardner regarding Lynch May 17, 1938 sends Lynch's comments to Gardner. Lynch is described as "the doctor in charge of our spinning plant at North Charleston." (copy to Brown) S. Simpson to J. Mitchell regarding Lynch, May 17, 1938. References fact he sent Lynch's comments to Brown. Brown to S. Simpson regarding Lynch, May 18, 1938. Lynch has made a thoughtful analysis. Agrees that Gardner's experiments are too premature to draw conclusions. S. Simpson to Gardner regarding Lynch (reply to 205A) May 25, 1938: "I am pinning my faith to you" says Lynch had no experience prior to their approaching
195,202, 196 (report), 199B, 199A, and 192, ALL REFER TO PRELIMINARY
REPORT OF DECEMBER 1939 BY DR. GARDNER.
195
Letter December 18, 1939, Brown to Gardner regarding
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preliminary report acknowledging receipt of same.
Refers to Gardner request for funds.
202
Brown to S. Simpson, December 26, 1939. Sends Gardner
interim report^ requests Raybestos-Manhattan position
on continued funding.
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196
Gardner Interim Report (presumably 19 39) . ftarthui*
concludes that long fibers and not short ones cause the
damage and that this probably explains the lack of
asbestosis at the Thgtford Mills.
This information should serve "as a guide to engineers
who must control the hazard in plants indicating that
their efforts must be directed particularly toward
the fibrous material in the air."
Asks for additional funding.
NOTE:
This paper prompted criticism within ATI of the TLV which counted total dust particle instead of fibers. Query; What is the nature of the exposure hazard to insulators -
coarse or fin fibers?^
199B
Lanza to Brown, January 11, 1940, regarding Gardner
preliminary report which he praises. Interprets con
clusion as negativing the toxic effects of asbestos and
simplifying control in the manufacturing process.
Argues that asbestos is not as dangerous as silicosis.
Urges continued funding of Gardner.
199A
Brown to S. Simpson, Janaury 12, 1940, forwarding copy
of Lanza analysis (199B).
192
Dr. Alfred Kornblut to S. Simpson, January 25, 1940
regarding his analysis of Gardner's report: .
Says Dreessen study is proof positive in a
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laboratory of the "hazards of the work and the end
results of the effect." Quotes ^reesen TLV statement^
refers to one of insurance cases "whom I was fortunate
to be able to autopsy which showed the man to have
extensive bronchogenic carcinoma with metastasis to
the lumbar spine." Compares this case with three deaths
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related in Dreessen. Doesn't feel that the presence
of asbestos in the lungs of all four cases "contributed
as a concomittent factor to their death."
Offers
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J/-C. assessment
of
experimentors
who
kill
animals in hope of "helping the human being who is
subject to the ravages of modern industry." Disputes
the practical worth of this report and has no
suggestions for future experiments.
Kornblut recommends:
"Seriously face the problem of dust control where asbestos is being used" continue to make dust counts.
204, 203, 187A and 187B - ALL RELATE TO INDUSTRY CONCERN THAT
DR. GARDNER IS PUBLISHING DATA WITHOUT THEIR PRIOR APPROVAL.
204
Brown to S. Simpson, May 3, 1939 regarding Gardner's
papers and public speeches.
Brown refers S. Simpson to several publications and
presentations of Gardner which Brown contends violates
the secrecy and prior approval provisions of their
agreement.
203
S. Simpson to Brown, May 4, 1939. S. Simpson agrees
that Gardner has violated their agreement.
"The reports may be so favorable to us that they would cause us no trouble but they might be just the opposite which could be very embarrassing."
187A
Brown to S. Simpson May 10, 1940, regarding Gardner paper
referred to an IHF abstract.
"It is apparent... that Gardner is already publishing, without seeking our advanced approval, certain conclusions"... arrived at as result of his work for us.
187B
IHF abstract to which 187A refers.
173B
Gardner to S. Simpson January 12, 1946 seeking per
mission to examine x-rays.
168, 164, and 157 CONCERN EFFORTS TO OBTAIN A FINAL REPORT FROM
GARDNER.
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168
Gatke (President Gatke Corporation) to Rohrbach,
(Raybestos-Manhattan) August 12, 1946 complains that a
final report has not been rendered.
Refers to interim reports that dust less than 5 microns
is innocuous and says that heavier dust (>5 m.) can be
controlled by approved
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With these two facts established, and without injection of possibilities of cancer, etc., etc., we would have some thing definite and worthwhile' to combat the claims of these country doctors" whose testimony is accepted by the Courts. Refers to fact that all they need is this part of the report and "we could let the rest of it (experiments) go by the board".
164
Brown to Bowditch (Saranac) December 12, 1946, asks
whether someone else could complete Gardner's studies.
Reminds Saranac of agreement that results are the
property of industry and that any reports are to be
approved by industry prior to publication.
157
Brown to Rohrbach, April 19, 1948, advises that Saranac
has informed him that a report on Gardner's work will
shortly be forthcoming.
Solicits his ideas about review of the report prior to
publication. Refers to fact that Lanza is now a Trustee
of TrudeaW Foundation and secured the services of
Dr. Lynch for the purpose of preparing this report.