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To: Robert Fanning[bruisernd73@gmail.com] Cc: DNRC Land Board[landboard@mt.gov]; Duane Mecham[duane.mecham@sol.doi.gov]; Richard Erb[richarderb@montana.com]; Daniel Salomon[dansalomon12@gmail.com]; Jack Horner (b) (6) I]; Jon Metropoulos[jon@metropouloslaw.com]; Jack & Susan Lake[jlake@ronan.net]; Mary Stranahan[mary@goodworksventures.com]; Paul Wadsworth (b) (6) I ]; Steve Hughes :b) (6) ]; Patricia Gillis[patricia.gillis@ferc.gov]; Paul Hunsucker1(b) (6) I ]; MT Rep Dick Barrett[rnewbar@gmail.com]; Paul Guenzler[sharongu@ronan.net]; Dr. Kate Vandemoer[waterforworldpeace@gmail.com]; Bruce Fredrickson[bruce@rmtlawp.com]; Jerry & Christine | Broken Hook Ranch[brknhkrnch@stignatius.net]; David Lake[spud@cyberport.net]; Ryan Zinke 1(b) (6) ]; senator@tester.senate.gov[senator@tester.senate.gov]; Ken Cornelius (b) (6) Slack1(b) (6) ]; MT Rep Steve Fitzpatrick[fitzpatricks@bresnan.net]; Bill & Grace I]; BruceTutvedtSD3[brucetutvedt@gmail.com]; Kristin Omvig[kristin@rmtlawp.com]; Bradley Hamlett[senatorhamlett@gmail.com]; Steve Daines[steve@stevedaines.com]; Alan Mikkelsen[alanmikk@gmail.com]; Janette Rosman[janette@ronan.net] From: Gene Erb Jr Sent: 2017-07-04T09:25:21-04:00 Importance: Normal Subject: Thanks to Robert Fanning 4th of JULY 2017 . You may want to try N,Korea before you change the "CONSTITUTION". Received: 2017-07-04T09:26:33-04:00 Remembering the Magna Carta (Written for a good friend in Montana) The 4th of July bunting on the porch has been put away and the house cleaned up after the celebration with friends: what better time to reread the Magna Carta and think about American governance on this, the 800th anniversary of The Magna Carta? In 1215 AD, King Henry III of England, a very unpopular King, met with a group of rebel barons at Runnymeade, a wet-meadow on the S. Bank of the Thames River to make peace. In a matter of days they agreed to a "Great Charter" or Magna Carta that had been drafted by the Archbishop of Canterbury. The King signed the document (written in Latin in iron gall ink on parchment) that was copied by monks and distributed to the barons to be read to all Englishmen at Mass and in public squares. There are but a few of these copies still in existence. Though neither side upheld the agreement and subsequent Charters (1216, 1217, 1225, & 1297) came and went with current affairs, a certain statement of the limited powers of government (as in the King being subject to the law) and the rights of "free men" (barons) began working its way through history forming the Charters of the King for the 13 Colonies in America and eventually their bold Constitution defining the United State of America. Echoes of the barons' oath to "liberty, Church and realm" can be traced to the ringing words in the Declaration of Independence that, "When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary ... to dissolve the political bands which have connected them" and "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights", as well as in the Preamble to the US Constitution that, "We the People of the United States, in order to... establish Justice, ... and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity do ordain and establish". Of the 60 or so clauses in the Charter, half concerned immediate matters for the King and barons that disappeared quickly in subsequent charters. The first 8 clauses were protections for landowners from government abuse in everything from taxes to inheritances and the rights of widows and very young heirs. The fact that Property Rights were truly first and foremost is a reminder of the historic and enduring nature of this most basic of all rights, without which the others begin to pale and erode. Clause 14 defined what we have come to know as "Representative Government", i.e. a common council or Parliament or in our case a Congress; and the principle of "no taxation without representation". Clauses 17 through 32 are concerned with seizures, courts, prosecutions and officials like sheriffs and constables. Clause 33 directed that all weirs (i.e. fish traps) be removed from rivers except on the sea coast. This was to make rivers more efficient travel-ways for people and commerce. Clauses 34 through 45 speak of the rights of persons accused in courts as well as protections of merchants and the behavior and qualifications of those enforcing the law. The concept of the presumption of innocence until proven guilty was first inferred here. Clauses 47 and 48 reclaim all forests and riverbanks as property of landowners and all "evil customs are to be abolished completely and irrevocably". No longer could the King or anyone other than the landowner cut wood or take game on the land of another. Clause 51 directs the removal of "all the foreign knights and their attendants". Clauses 52 through 59 concern how you can only be deprived of lands, castles, liberties or rights with the lawful judgment of equals". They also guarantee these rights to Welshmen while stating that, "No one shall be arrested or imprisoned on the appeal of a woman for the death of any person except her husband." While the Charter was high-sounding in many regards, peasants or "villeins" remained under the jurisdiction of barons and the granting of these rights and guarantees to "all men" was neither contemplated or in all likelihood even imaginable at this time. So today the United States of America is governed by a Constitution that owes much to the Magna Carta. - The 1st Amendment authorizes the right "to petition the government for redress of grievances". - The 4th Amendment forbids "unreasonable searches" and demands "no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause". - The 5th Amendment forbids being tried "twice"; being "deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of law"; and that it affirms the bedrock right, "nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation." - The 6th Amendment guarantees a "speedy and public trial by an impartial jury". - The 7th Amendment states, "the right of trial by jury shall be preserved". - The 14th Amendment forbids the States from depriving "any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor to deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws." You could say the US has come a long way in 800 years. For instance, we fought a great Civil War and gave all men equal rights; we gave women equal rights; and we became the most powerful and most desirable emigration object the world has ever known. You could say that but you would be wrong. Today, the President ignores the Constitution and many laws with impunity. The Congress (envisioned as a common council or Parliament) is made up of career politicians of two parties, each of which enables (differing only in speed) the nation's shift into a monolithic central government that controls all aspects of daily life at the behest of the President like the bureaucrats of ancient Kings and recent foreign dictators. The Supreme Court actually adds words to legislation to make laws fit desired political goals while "discovering" "penumbras and emanations" authorizing things never imagined or considered, much less mentioned, by the authors of the Constitution. What the Constitution described as 3 branches of government ("checks and balances") have regressed into one Washington monolithic ruling machine more like King John than George Washington. Governors are the closest things left in the US that could force Washington to some American Runnymeade to realign the debilitating power that is eroding the nation and its citizens, but that seems unlikely. The Jerry Browns and Daniel Malloys are typical of 1/3 of their fellow Governors in that they despise the Constitution, spend money like drunken sailors, and want to be just like the President when they grow up. Another third, like the Nixons and Hickenloopers are about as likely to do anything other than angle for federal money and tickle federal backs as a duck is to attack a fox. The last third, the Walkers and Pences are the fighters with Magna Carta/Constitution values and the ones that give us hope. If not any of these, can a Dr. Carson or Donald Trump offer hope? I know not. Can we resolve? - Federal politicians that take an oath to uphold the Constitution and then work to destroy the Bill of Rights unilaterally outside prescribed processes? - A Supreme Court that is no more "blind" like that statue with the scale than Chicago politicians dividing up a budget? - Rogue agencies like EPA claiming jurisdiction over all waters of the US, barring the use of coal for power, closing the last lead smelter in the nation; a Forest Service that gobbles up more and more land to be closed down and left unmanaged; a US Fish and Wildlife Service that takes land not for a public use without compensation and has reinstituted the claims of King John and his predecessors over game and forests; and an IRS and DOJ that work to destroy political opponents of the President? - Laws granting race and sex preferences to government-designated groups much like King John had for Normans, Saxons, Welchmen, etc. - Enormous spending and debt? - Spending distortions and program anomalies like welfare increases at the expense of Defense capabilities in an increasingly dangerous world? - Private property being steadily swallowed up by a government that already owns or controls over half the nation? - Scandals like Fast and Furious and destruction of records by bureaucracies and politicians that go unpunished? Can we resolve these things and somehow restore what we have lost during the last century and are losing today at an accelerating pace? Remembering the Magna Carta and fairly judging US governance today, 800 years later, leads to only one conclusion. Where did we go wrong? How did this happen? How can we get back on the road to good governance that we once had and let slip away? Is it even possible, short of a rebellion like the ones that birthed the Magna Carta and the US Constitution? Jim Beers 8 July 2015 Jim Beers is a retired US Fish & Wildlife Service Wildlife Biologist, Special Agent, Refuge Manager, Wetlands Biologist, and Congressional Fellow. He was stationed in North Dakota, Minnesota, Nebraska, New York City, and Washington DC. He also served as a US Navy Line Officer in the western Pacific and on Adak, Alaska in the Aleutian Islands. He has worked for the Utah Fish & Game, Minneapolis Police Department, and as a Security Supervisor in Washington, DC. He testified three times before Congress; twice regarding the theft by the US Fish & Wildlife Service of $45 to 60 Million from State fish and wildlife funds and once in opposition to expanding Federal Invasive Species authority. He resides in Eagan, Minnesota with his wife of many decades. To: Gene Erb (b) (6) Cc: Janette Rosman[janette@ronan.net]; DNRC Land Board[landboard@mt.gov]; MT Rep Dick Barrett[rnewbar@gmail.com]; Richard Erb[richarderb@montana.com]; Bradley Hamlett[senatorhamlett@gmail.com]; Jack HornerKb) (6) I]; Kristin Omvig[kristin@rmtlawp.com]; Steve Hughes :b) (6) I ]; Paul Guenzler[sharongu@ronan.net]; Dr. Kate Vandemoer[waterforworldpeace@gmail.com]; Patricia Gillis[patricia.gillis@ferc.gov]; Daniel Salomon[dansalomon12@gmail.com]; Paul Hunsucker :b) (6) I]; Paul Wadsworth (b) (6) I ]; David Lake[spud@cyberport.net]; MT Rep Steve Fitzpatrick[fitzpatricks@bresnan.net]; Bruce Fredrickson[bruce@rmtlawp.com]; Ryan Zinke :b) (6) ]; Ken Cornelius :b) (6) I ]; Mary Stranahan[mary@goodworksventures.com]; BruceTutvedtSD3[brucetutvedt@gmail.com]; Alan Mikkelsen[alanmikk@gmail.com]; Bill & Grace Slack Kb)(6) I]; Steve Daines[steve@stevedaines.com]; senator@tester.senate.gov[senator@tester.senate.gov]; Duane Mecham[duane.mecham@sol.doi.gov]; Jerry & Christine | Broken Hook Ranch[brknhkrnch@stignatius.net]; Jack & Susan Lake[jlake@ronan.net]; Jon Metropoulos[jon@metropouloslaw.com] From: Robert Fanning Sent: 2017-07-04T09:49:00-04:00 Importance: Normal Subject: Re: Thanks to Robert Fanning 4th of JULY 2017 . You may want to try N,Korea before you change the "CONSTITUTION". Received: 2017-07-04T09:49:17-04:00 350px-Le droit du Seigneur by Vasiliy Polenov.jpg There is a clear cut reason that Steve Bannon sits next to Donald Trump everyday... Watch Generation Zero and Understand that Robert T Fanning KNOWS about the fraud against the American People and is the Champion of the Forgotten Man. Send him to the US senate to get Montana's money back! Droit du Signeur, Jus Primae Noctis is the attitude that the USSC gust reflected to " We the people " with their ruling in favor of the Political class and the Deep State regarding your private property. Stand in defense of it or lose it. Today the asset class known as your waster. Set that precedent and they'll seize pensions next. " it's them or us." On Jul 4, 2017 7:26 AM, "Gene Erb Jr" <(b) (6) I> wrote: Remembering the Magna Carta (Written for a good friend in Montana) The 4th of July bunting on the porch has been put away and the house cleaned up after the celebration with friends: what better time to reread the Magna Carta and think about American governance on this, the 800th anniversary of The Magna Carta? In 1215 AD, King Henry III of England, a very unpopular King, met with a group of rebel barons at Runnymeade, a wet-meadow on the S. Bank of the Thames River to make peace. In a matter of days they agreed to a "Great Charter" or Magna Carta that had been drafted by the Archbishop of Canterbury. The King signed the document (written in Latin in iron gall ink on parchment) that was copied by monks and distributed to the barons to be read to all Englishmen at Mass and in public squares. There are but a few of these copies still in existence. Though neither side upheld the agreement and subsequent Charters (1216, 1217, 1225, & 1297) came and went with current affairs, a certain statement of the limited powers of government (as in the King being subject to the law) and the rights of "free men" (barons) began working its way through history forming the Charters of the King for the 13 Colonies in America and eventually their bold Constitution defining the United State of America. Echoes of the barons' oath to "liberty, Church and realm" can be traced to the ringing words in the Declaration of Independence that, "When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary ... to dissolve the political bands which have connected them" and "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights", as well as in the Preamble to the US Constitution that, "We the People of the United States, in order to. establish Justice, . and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity do ordain and establish". Of the 60 or so clauses in the Charter, half concerned immediate matters for the King and barons that disappeared quickly in subsequent charters. The first 8 clauses were protections for landowners from government abuse in everything from taxes to inheritances and the rights of widows and very young heirs. The fact that Property Rights were truly first and foremost is a reminder of the historic and enduring nature of this most basic of all rights, without which the others begin to pale and erode. Clause 14 defined what we have come to know as "Representative Government", i.e. a common council or Parliament or in our case a Congress; and the principle of "no taxation without representation". Clauses 17 through 32 are concerned with seizures, courts, prosecutions and officials like sheriffs and constables. Clause 33 directed that all weirs (i.e. fish traps) be removed from rivers except on the sea coast. This was to make rivers more efficient travel-ways for people and commerce. Clauses 34 through 45 speak of the rights of persons accused in courts as well as protections of merchants and the behavior and qualifications of those enforcing the law. The concept of the presumption of innocence until proven guilty was first inferred here. Clauses 47 and 48 reclaim all forests and riverbanks as property of landowners and all "evil customs are to be abolished completely and irrevocably". No longer could the King or anyone other than the landowner cut wood or take game on the land of another. Clause 51 directs the removal of "all the foreign knights and their attendants". Clauses 52 through 59 concern how you can only be deprived of lands, castles, liberties or rights with the lawful judgment of equals". They also guarantee these rights to Welshmen while stating that, "No one shall be arrested or imprisoned on the appeal of a woman for the death of any person except her husband." While the Charter was high-sounding in many regards, peasants or "villeins" remained under the jurisdiction of barons and the granting of these rights and guarantees to "all men" was neither contemplated or in all likelihood even imaginable at this time. So today the United States of America is governed by a Constitution that owes much to the Magna Carta. - The 1st Amendment authorizes the right "to petition the government for redress of grievances". - The 4th Amendment forbids "unreasonable searches" and demands "no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause". - The 5th Amendment forbids being tried "twice"; being "deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of law"; and that it affirms the bedrock right, "nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation." - The 6th Amendment guarantees a "speedy and public trial by an impartial jury". - The 7th Amendment states, "the right of trial by jury shall be preserved". - The 14th Amendment forbids the States from depriving "any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor to deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws." You could say the US has come a long way in 800 years. For instance, we fought a great Civil War and gave all men equal rights; we gave women equal rights; and we became the most powerful and most desirable emigration object the world has ever known. You could say that but you would be wrong. Today, the President ignores the Constitution and many laws with impunity. The Congress (envisioned as a common council or Parliament) is made up of career politicians of two parties, each of which enables (differing only in speed) the nation's shift into a monolithic central government that controls all aspects of daily life at the behest of the President like the bureaucrats of ancient Kings and recent foreign dictators. The Supreme Court actually adds words to legislation to make laws fit desired political goals while "discovering" "penumbras and emanations" authorizing things never imagined or considered, much less mentioned, by the authors of the Constitution. What the Constitution described as 3 branches of government ("checks and balances") have regressed into one Washington monolithic ruling machine more like King John than George Washington. Governors are the closest things left in the US that could force Washington to some American Runnymeade to realign the debilitating power that is eroding the nation and its citizens, but that seems unlikely. The Jerry Browns and Daniel Malloys are typical of 1/3 of their fellow Governors in that they despise the Constitution, spend money like drunken sailors, and want to be just like the President when they grow up. Another third, like the Nixons and Hickenloopers are about as likely to do anything other than angle for federal money and tickle federal backs as a duck is to attack a fox. The last third, the Walkers and Pences are the fighters with Magna Carta/Constitution values and the ones that give us hope. If not any of these, can a Dr. Carson or Donald Trump offer hope? I know not. Can we resolve? - Federal politicians that take an oath to uphold the Constitution and then work to destroy the Bill of Rights unilaterally outside prescribed processes? - A Supreme Court that is no more "blind" like that statue with the scale than Chicago politicians dividing up a budget? - Rogue agencies like EPA claiming jurisdiction over all waters of the US, barring the use of coal for power, closing the last lead smelter in the nation; a Forest Service that gobbles up more and more land to be closed down and left unmanaged; a US Fish and Wildlife Service that takes land not for a public use without compensation and has reinstituted the claims of King John and his predecessors over game and forests; and an IRS and DOJ that work to destroy political opponents of the President? - Laws granting race and sex preferences to government-designated groups much like King John had for Normans, Saxons, Welchmen, etc. - Enormous spending and debt? - Spending distortions and program anomalies like welfare increases at the expense of Defense capabilities in an increasingly dangerous world? - Private property being steadily swallowed up by a government that already owns or controls over half the nation? - Scandals like Fast and Furious and destruction of records by bureaucracies and politicians that go unpunished? Can we resolve these things and somehow restore what we have lost during the last century and are losing today at an accelerating pace? Remembering the Magna Carta and fairly judging US governance today, 800 years later, leads to only one conclusion. Where did we go wrong? How did this happen? How can we get back on the road to good governance that we once had and let slip away? Is it even possible, short of a rebellion like the ones that birthed the Magna Carta and the US Constitution? Jim Beers 8 July 2015 Jim Beers is a retired US Fish & Wildlife Service Wildlife Biologist, Special Agent, Refuge Manager, Wetlands Biologist, and Congressional Fellow. He was stationed in North Dakota, Minnesota, Nebraska, New York City, and Washington DC. He also served as a US Navy Line Officer in the western Pacific and on Adak, Alaska in the Aleutian Islands. He has worked for the Utah Fish & Game, Minneapolis Police Department, and as a Security Supervisor in Washington, DC. He testified three times before Congress; twice regarding the theft by the US Fish & Wildlife Service of $45 to 60 Million from State fish and wildlife funds and once in opposition to expanding Federal Invasive Species authority. He resides in Eagan, Minnesota with his wife of many decades. To: Gene Erb (b) (6) Cc: MT Rep Dick Barrett[rnewbar@gmail.com]; DNRC Land Board[landboard@mt.gov]; Janette Rosman[janette@ronan.net]; Richard Erb[richarderb@montana.com]; Bradley Hamlett[senatorhamlett@gmail.com]; Jack Horner1(b) (6) I]; Kristin Omvig[kristin@rmtlawp.com]; Steve Hughes :b) (6) I ]; Paul Guenzler[sharongu@ronan.net]; Dr. Kate Vandemoer[waterforworldpeace@gmail.com]; Daniel Salomon[dansalomon12@gmail.com]; Patricia Gillis[patricia.gillis@ferc.gov]; Paul Hunsucker :b) (6) I ]; Paul Wadsworth (b) (6) I ]; David Lake[spud@cyberport.net]; MT Rep Steve Fitzpatrick[fitzpatricks@bresnan.net]; Bruce Fredrickson[bruce@rmtlawp.com]; Ryan Zinke :b) (6) ]; Ken Cornelius :b) (6) I ]; Mary Stranahan[mary@goodworksventures.com]; BruceTutvedtSD3[brucetutvedt@gmail.com]; Alan Mikkelsen[alanmikk@gmail.com]; Bill & Grace Slack1(b) (6) I]; Steve Daines[steve@stevedaines.com]; senator@tester.senate.gov[senator@tester.senate.gov]; Jerry & Christine | Broken Hook Ranch[brknhkrnch@stignatius.net]; Duane Mecham[duane.mecham@sol.doi.gov]; Jon Metropoulos[jon@metropouloslaw.com]; Jack & Susan Lake[jlake@ronan.net] From: Robert Fanning Sent: 2017-07-04T11:53:09-04:00 Importance: Normal Subject: Re: Thanks to Robert Fanning 4th of JULY 2017 . You may want to try N,Korea before you change the "CONSTITUTION". Received: 2017-07-04T11:53:14-04:00 FB IMG 1499183243555.jpg On Jul 4, 2017 7:49 AM, "Robert Fanning" <bruisernd73@gmail.com> wrote: There is a clear cut reason that Steve Bannon sits next to Donald Trump everyday... Watch Generation Zero and Understand that Robert T Fanning KNOWS about the fraud against the American People and is the Champion of the Forgotten Man. Send him to the US senate to get Montana's money back! Droit du Signeur, Jus Primae Noctis is the attitude that the USSC gust reflected to " We the people " with their ruling in favor of the Political class and the Deep State regarding your private property. Stand in defense of it or lose it. Today the asset class known as your waster. Set that precedent and they'll seize pensions next. " it's them or us." On Jul 4, 2017 7:26 AM, "Gene Erb Jr" (b) (6) > wrote: Remembering the Magna Carta (Written for a good friend in Montana) The 4th of July bunting on the porch has been put away and the house cleaned up after the celebration with friends: what better time to reread the Magna Carta and think about American governance on this, the 800th anniversary of The Magna Carta? In 1215 AD, King Henry III of England, a very unpopular King, met with a group of rebel barons at Runnymeade, a wet-meadow on the S. Bank of the Thames River to make peace. In a matter of days they agreed to a "Great Charter" or Magna Carta that had been drafted by the Archbishop of Canterbury. The King signed the document (written in Latin in iron gall ink on parchment) that was copied by monks and distributed to the barons to be read to all Englishmen at Mass and in public squares. There are but a few of these copies still in existence. Though neither side upheld the agreement and subsequent Charters (1216, 1217, 1225, & 1297) came and went with current affairs, a certain statement of the limited powers of government (as in the King being subject to the law) and the rights of "free men" (barons) began working its way through history forming the Charters of the King for the 13 Colonies in America and eventually their bold Constitution defining the United State of America. Echoes of the barons' oath to "liberty, Church and realm" can be traced to the ringing words in the Declaration of Independence that, "When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary ... to dissolve the political bands which have connected them" and "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights", as well as in the Preamble to the US Constitution that, "We the People of the United States, in order to. establish Justice, . and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity do ordain and establish". Of the 60 or so clauses in the Charter, half concerned immediate matters for the King and barons that disappeared quickly in subsequent charters. The first 8 clauses were protections for landowners from government abuse in everything from taxes to inheritances and the rights of widows and very young heirs. The fact that Property Rights were truly first and foremost is a reminder of the historic and enduring nature of this most basic of all rights, without which the others begin to pale and erode. Clause 14 defined what we have come to know as "Representative Government", i.e. a common council or Parliament or in our case a Congress; and the principle of "no taxation without representation". Clauses 17 through 32 are concerned with seizures, courts, prosecutions and officials like sheriffs and constables. Clause 33 directed that all weirs (i.e. fish traps) be removed from rivers except on the sea coast. This was to make rivers more efficient travel-ways for people and commerce. Clauses 34 through 45 speak of the rights of persons accused in courts as well as protections of merchants and the behavior and qualifications of those enforcing the law. The concept of the presumption of innocence until proven guilty was first inferred here. Clauses 47 and 48 reclaim all forests and riverbanks as property of landowners and all "evil customs are to be abolished completely and irrevocably". No longer could the King or anyone other than the landowner cut wood or take game on the land of another. Clause 51 directs the removal of "all the foreign knights and their attendants". Clauses 52 through 59 concern how you can only be deprived of lands, castles, liberties or rights with the lawful judgment of equals". They also guarantee these rights to Welshmen while stating that, "No one shall be arrested or imprisoned on the appeal of a woman for the death of any person except her husband." While the Charter was high-sounding in many regards, peasants or "villeins" remained under the jurisdiction of barons and the granting of these rights and guarantees to "all men" was neither contemplated or in all likelihood even imaginable at this time. So today the United States of America is governed by a Constitution that owes much to the Magna Carta. - The 1st Amendment authorizes the right "to petition the government for redress of grievances". - The 4th Amendment forbids "unreasonable searches" and demands "no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause". - The 5th Amendment forbids being tried "twice"; being "deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of law"; and that it affirms the bedrock right, "nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation." - The 6th Amendment guarantees a "speedy and public trial by an impartial jury". - The 7th Amendment states, "the right of trial by jury shall be preserved". - The 14th Amendment forbids the States from depriving "any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor to deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws." You could say the US has come a long way in 800 years. For instance, we fought a great Civil War and gave all men equal rights; we gave women equal rights; and we became the most powerful and most desirable emigration object the world has ever known. You could say that but you would be wrong. Today, the President ignores the Constitution and many laws with impunity. The Congress (envisioned as a common council or Parliament) is made up of career politicians of two parties, each of which enables (differing only in speed) the nation's shift into a monolithic central government that controls all aspects of daily life at the behest of the President like the bureaucrats of ancient Kings and recent foreign dictators. The Supreme Court actually adds words to legislation to make laws fit desired political goals while "discovering" "penumbras and emanations" authorizing things never imagined or considered, much less mentioned, by the authors of the Constitution. What the Constitution described as 3 branches of government ("checks and balances") have regressed into one Washington monolithic ruling machine more like King John than George Washington. Governors are the closest things left in the US that could force Washington to some American Runnymeade to realign the debilitating power that is eroding the nation and its citizens, but that seems unlikely. The Jerry Browns and Daniel Malloys are typical of 1/3 of their fellow Governors in that they despise the Constitution, spend money like drunken sailors, and want to be just like the President when they grow up. Another third, like the Nixons and Hickenloopers are about as likely to do anything other than angle for federal money and tickle federal backs as a duck is to attack a fox. The last third, the Walkers and Pences are the fighters with Magna Carta/Constitution values and the ones that give us hope. If not any of these, can a Dr. Carson or Donald Trump offer hope? I know not. Can we resolve? - Federal politicians that take an oath to uphold the Constitution and then work to destroy the Bill of Rights unilaterally outside prescribed processes? - A Supreme Court that is no more "blind" like that statue with the scale than Chicago politicians dividing up a budget? - Rogue agencies like EPA claiming jurisdiction over all waters of the US, barring the use of coal for power, closing the last lead smelter in the nation; a Forest Service that gobbles up more and more land to be closed down and left unmanaged; a US Fish and Wildlife Service that takes land not for a public use without compensation and has reinstituted the claims of King John and his predecessors over game and forests; and an IRS and DOJ that work to destroy political opponents of the President? - Laws granting race and sex preferences to government-designated groups much like King John had for Normans, Saxons, Welchmen, etc. - Enormous spending and debt? - Spending distortions and program anomalies like welfare increases at the expense of Defense capabilities in an increasingly dangerous world? - Private property being steadily swallowed up by a government that already owns or controls over half the nation? - Scandals like Fast and Furious and destruction of records by bureaucracies and politicians that go unpunished? Can we resolve these things and somehow restore what we have lost during the last century and are losing today at an accelerating pace? Remembering the Magna Carta and fairly judging US governance today, 800 years later, leads to only one conclusion. Where did we go wrong? How did this happen? How can we get back on the road to good governance that we once had and let slip away? Is it even possible, short of a rebellion like the ones that birthed the Magna Carta and the US Constitution? Jim Beers 8 July 2015 Jim Beers is a retired US Fish & Wildlife Service Wildlife Biologist, Special Agent, Refuge Manager, Wetlands Biologist, and Congressional Fellow. He was stationed in North Dakota, Minnesota, Nebraska, New York City, and Washington DC. He also served as a US Navy Line Officer in the western Pacific and on Adak, Alaska in the Aleutian Islands. He has worked for the Utah Fish & Game, Minneapolis Police Department, and as a Security Supervisor in Washington, DC. He testified three times before Congress; twice regarding the theft by the US Fish & Wildlife Service of $45 to 60 Million from State fish and wildlife funds and once in opposition to expanding Federal Invasive Species authority. He resides in Eagan, Minnesota with his wife of many decades. To: Robert Fanning[bruisernd73@gmail.com]; ;b) (6) - Mike Horn (b) (6) Cc: Janette Rosman[janette@ronan.net]; DNRC Land Board[landboard@mt.gov]; MT Rep Dick Barrett[rnewbar@gmail.com]; Richard Erb[richarderb@montana.com]; Bradley Hamlett[senatorhamlett@gmail.com]; Jack Horner[(b) (6) I]; Kristin Omvig[kristin@rmtlawp.com]; Steve Hughes :b) (6) I ]; Paul Guenzler[sharongu@ronan.net]; Dr. Kate Vandemoer[waterforworldpeace@gmail.com]; Patricia Gillis[patricia.gillis@ferc.gov]; Daniel Salomon[dansalomon12@gmail.com]; Paul Hunsucker :b) (6) I ]; Paul Wadsworth (b) (6) I ]; David Lake[spud@cyberport.net]; MT Rep Steve Fitzpatrick[fitzpatricks@bresnan.net]; Bruce Fredrickson[bruce@rmtlawp.com]; Ryan Zinke :b) (6) I ]; Ken Cornelius (b) (6) I ]; Mary Stranahan[mary@goodworksventures.com]; BruceTutvedtSD3[brucetutvedt@gmail.com]; Alan Mikkelsen[alanmikk@gmail.com]; Bill & Grace Slack[(b) (6) I]; Steve Daines[steve@stevedaines.com]; senator@tester.senate.gov[senator@tester.senate.gov]; Duane Mecham[duane.mecham@sol.doi.gov]; Jerry & Christine | Broken Hook Ranch[brknhkrnch@stignatius.net]; Jack & Susan Lake[jlake@ronan.net]; Jon Metropoulos[jon@metropouloslaw.com]; Chas Vincent[cvvincent@hotmail.com]; Frandsen Deb (Tester)[deb_frandsen@tester.senate.gov]; Kathleen Mazure[klm@dwgp.com]; Alan Mikkelsen[amikkelsen@usbr.gov] From: Gene Erb Jr Sent: 2017-07-04T15:19:37-04:00 Importance: Normal Subject: Re: Thanks to Robert Fanning 4th of JULY 2017 . You may want to try N,Korea before you change the "CONSTITUTION". Received: 2017-07-04T15:20:09-04:00 Montana Legislature Water Marketing.pdf Water Court Thompson Falls.pdf CSKT Letter handed out by Attorney Lloyd Ingraham 002.pdf jon metro.pdf Yellowstone River Casepdf.pdf pgs 1-2.pdf 1. Robert, Jean Turnage in 1985 new the value of the "WATER" an Attorney from Polson Mt. also a Tribal Member? His son worked at Kerr Dam? 2. Real suspicious how Montana Power and Washington Water Power had water court at Thompson Falls and the Flathead Irrigation Project did not file an objection??? 3. Things were going real smooth with help from Washington DC. 4. More help from the "Good OLD BOYS CLUB" in Helena MT., who would have thought that the Irrigation Districts were involved also? This is why the Project By Laws were changed in 1986. 5. And this Yellowstone River Case in 1992, Kerr Dam in the FERC Doc (1998) Produced the Grand Total in excess of 112,000,000 million dollars??? Montanas (use it or loose it attitude) maybe the 1972 prior rights, along with the 1889 Montana Constitution will be very useful. On Tuesday, July 4, 2017 7:49 AM, Robert Fanning <bruisernd73@gmail.com> wrote: There is a clear cut reason that Steve Bannon sits next to Donald Trump everyday... Watch Generation Zero and Understand that Robert T Fanning KNOWS about the fraud against the American People and is the Champion of the Forgotten Man. Send him to the US senate to get Montana's money back! Droit du Signeur, Jus Primae Noctis is the attitude that the USSC gust reflected to " We the people " with their ruling in favor of the Political class and the Deep State regarding your private property. Stand in defense of it or lose it. Today the asset class known as your waster. Set that precedent and they'll seize pensions next. " it's them or us." On Jul 4, 2017 7:26 AM, "Gene Erb Jr" <(b) (6) > wrote: Remembering the Magna Carta (Written for a good friend in Montana) The 4th of July bunting on the porch has been put away and the house cleaned up after the celebration with friends: what better time to reread the Magna Carta and think about American governance on this, the 800th anniversary of The Magna Carta? In 1215 AD, King Henry III of England, a very unpopular King, met with a group of rebel barons at Runnymeade, a wet-meadow on the S. Bank of the Thames River to make peace. In a matter of days they agreed to a "Great Charter" or Magna Carta that had been drafted by the Archbishop of Canterbury. The King signed the document (written in Latin in iron gall ink on parchment) that was copied by monks and distributed to the barons to be read to all Englishmen at Mass and in public squares. There are but a few of these copies still in existence. Though neither side upheld the agreement and subsequent Charters (1216, 1217, 1225, & 1297) came and went with current affairs, a certain statement of the limited powers of government (as in the King being subject to the law) and the rights of "free men" (barons) began working its way through history forming the Charters of the King for the 13 Colonies in America and eventually their bold Constitution defining the United State of America. Echoes of the barons' oath to "liberty, Church and realm" can be traced to the ringing words in the Declaration of Independence that, "When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary ... to dissolve the political bands which have connected them" and "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights", as well as in the Preamble to the US Constitution that, "We the People of the United States, in order to. establish Justice, . and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity do ordain and establish". Of the 60 or so clauses in the Charter, half concerned immediate matters for the King and barons that disappeared quickly in subsequent charters. The first 8 clauses were protections for landowners from government abuse in everything from taxes to inheritances and the rights of widows and very young heirs. The fact that Property Rights were truly first and foremost is a reminder of the historic and enduring nature of this most basic of all rights, without which the others begin to pale and erode. Clause 14 defined what we have come to know as "Representative Government", i.e. a common council or Parliament or in our case a Congress; and the principle of "no taxation without representation". Clauses 17 through 32 are concerned with seizures, courts, prosecutions and officials like sheriffs and constables. Clause 33 directed that all weirs (i.e. fish traps) be removed from rivers except on the sea coast. This was to make rivers more efficient travel-ways for people and commerce. Clauses 34 through 45 speak of the rights of persons accused in courts as well as protections of merchants and the behavior and qualifications of those enforcing the law. The concept of the presumption of innocence until proven guilty was first inferred here. Clauses 47 and 48 reclaim all forests and riverbanks as property of landowners and all "evil customs are to be abolished completely and irrevocably". No longer could the King or anyone other than the landowner cut wood or take game on the land of another. Clause 51 directs the removal of "all the foreign knights and their attendants". Clauses 52 through 59 concern how you can only be deprived of lands, castles, liberties or rights with the lawful judgment of equals". They also guarantee these rights to Welshmen while stating that, "No one shall be arrested or imprisoned on the appeal of a woman for the death of any person except her husband." While the Charter was high-sounding in many regards, peasants or "villeins" remained under the jurisdiction of barons and the granting of these rights and guarantees to "all men" was neither contemplated or in all likelihood even imaginable at this time. So today the United States of America is governed by a Constitution that owes much to the Magna Carta. - The 1st Amendment authorizes the right "to petition the government for redress of grievances". - The 4th Amendment forbids "unreasonable searches" and demands "no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause". - The 5th Amendment forbids being tried "twice"; being "deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of law"; and that it affirms the bedrock right, "nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation." - The 6th Amendment guarantees a "speedy and public trial by an impartial jury". - The 7th Amendment states, "the right of trial by jury shall be preserved". - The 14th Amendment forbids the States from depriving "any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor to deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws." You could say the US has come a long way in 800 years. For instance, we fought a great Civil War and gave all men equal rights; we gave women equal rights; and we became the most powerful and most desirable emigration object the world has ever known. You could say that but you would be wrong. Today, the President ignores the Constitution and many laws with impunity. The Congress (envisioned as a common council or Parliament) is made up of career politicians of two parties, each of which enables (differing only in speed) the nation's shift into a monolithic central government that controls all aspects of daily life at the behest of the President like the bureaucrats of ancient Kings and recent foreign dictators. The Supreme Court actually adds words to legislation to make laws fit desired political goals while "discovering" "penumbras and emanations" authorizing things never imagined or considered, much less mentioned, by the authors of the Constitution. What the Constitution described as 3 branches of government ("checks and balances") have regressed into one Washington monolithic ruling machine more like King John than George Washington. Governors are the closest things left in the US that could force Washington to some American Runnymeade to realign the debilitating power that is eroding the nation and its citizens, but that seems unlikely. The Jerry Browns and Daniel Malloys are typical of 1/3 of their fellow Governors in that they despise the Constitution, spend money like drunken sailors, and want to be just like the President when they grow up. Another third, like the Nixons and Hickenloopers are about as likely to do anything other than angle for federal money and tickle federal backs as a duck is to attack a fox. The last third, the Walkers and Pences are the fighters with Magna Carta/Constitution values and the ones that give us hope. If not any of these, can a Dr. Carson or Donald Trump offer hope? I know not. Can we resolve? - Federal politicians that take an oath to uphold the Constitution and then work to destroy the Bill of Rights unilaterally outside prescribed processes? - A Supreme Court that is no more "blind" like that statue with the scale than Chicago politicians dividing up a budget? - Rogue agencies like EPA claiming jurisdiction over all waters of the US, barring the use of coal for power, closing the last lead smelter in the nation; a Forest Service that gobbles up more and more land to be closed down and left unmanaged; a US Fish and Wildlife Service that takes land not for a public use without compensation and has reinstituted the claims of King John and his predecessors over game and forests; and an IRS and DOJ that work to destroy political opponents of the President? - Laws granting race and sex preferences to government-designated groups much like King John had for Normans, Saxons, Welchmen, etc. - Enormous spending and debt? - Spending distortions and program anomalies like welfare increases at the expense of Defense capabilities in an increasingly dangerous world? - Private property being steadily swallowed up by a government that already owns or controls over half the nation? - Scandals like Fast and Furious and destruction of records by bureaucracies and politicians that go unpunished? Can we resolve these things and somehow restore what we have lost during the last century and are losing today at an accelerating pace? Remembering the Magna Carta and fairly judging US governance today, 800 years later, leads to only one conclusion. Where did we go wrong? How did this happen? How can we get back on the road to good governance that we once had and let slip away? Is it even possible, short of a rebellion like the ones that birthed the Magna Carta and the US Constitution? Jim Beers 8 July 2015 Jim Beers is a retired US Fish & Wildlife Service Wildlife Biologist, Special Agent, Refuge Manager, Wetlands Biologist, and Congressional Fellow. He was stationed in North Dakota, Minnesota, Nebraska, New York City, and Washington DC. He also served as a US Navy Line Officer in the western Pacific and on Adak, Alaska in the Aleutian Islands. He has worked for the Utah Fish & Game, Minneapolis Police Department, and as a Security Supervisor in Washington, DC. He testified three times before Congress; twice regarding the theft by the US Fish & Wildlife Service of $45 to 60 Million from State fish and wildlife funds and once in opposition to expanding Federal Invasive Species authority. He resides in Eagan, Minnesota with his wife of many decades. To: Gene Erb (b) (6) I ] Cc: DNRC Land Board[landboard@mt.gov]; Janette Rosman[janette@ronan.net]; MT Rep Dick Barrett[rnewbar@gmail.com]; Frandsen Deb (Tester)[deb_frandsen@tester.senate.gov]; Richard Erb[richarderb@montana.com]; Jack HornerKb) (6) I ]; Bradley Hamlett[senatorhamlett@gmail.com]; Kristin Omvig[kristin@rmtlawp.com]; Chas Vincent[cvvincent@hotmail.com]; Steve Hughes (b) (6) I ]; (b) (6) - Mike Horn (b) (6) Paul Guenzler[sharongu@ronan.net]; Dr. Kate Vandemoer[waterforworldpeace@gmail.com]; Kathleen Mazure[klm@dwgp.com]; Patricia Gillis[patricia.gillis@ferc.gov]; Daniel Salomon[dansalomon12@gmail.com]; Paul Hunsucker :b) (6) I ]; Paul Wadsworth (b) (6) I ]; David Lake[spud@cyberport.net]; MT Rep Steve Fitzpatrick[fitzpatricks@bresnan.net]; Bruce Fredrickson[bruce@rmtlawp.com]; Ryan Zinke :b) (6) ]; Ken Cornelius :b) (6) I ]; Mary Stranahan[mary@goodworksventures.com]; BruceTutvedtSD3[brucetutvedt@gmail.com]; Alan Mikkelsen[alanmikk@gmail.com]; Bill & Grace Slack1(b) (6) I]; Steve Daines[steve@stevedaines.com]; senator@tester.senate.gov[senator@tester.senate.gov]; Alan Mikkelsen[amikkelsen@usbr.gov]; Jerry & Christine | Broken Hook Ranch[brknhkrnch@stignatius.net]; Duane Mecham[duane.mecham@sol.doi.gov]; Jon Metropoulos[jon@metropouloslaw.com]; Jack & Susan Lake[jlake@ronan.net] From: Robert Fanning Sent: 2017-07-04T15:37:20-04:00 Importance: Normal Subject: Re: Thanks to Robert Fanning 4th of JULY 2017 . Received: 2017-07-04T15:37:28-04:00 FB IMG 1499183243555.jpg http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/politics/ct-illinois-senate-income-tax-hike-budgetmet-0705-20170704-story.html Deep State bureaucrats and the Political class won't be able to tax or steal their way out of this one after 9 years of ZIRP The actuarial Nell curve just fell off a cliff. Carrying a global derivatives book of $ 1.25 quadrillion for Goldman Sachs , JPM and the ISDA for 9 years brought down the system...... nd Jon Tester helped them do it. Lead is a precious metal. On Jul 4, 2017 1:19 PM, "Gene Erb Jr" <(b) (6) > wrote: 1. Robert, Jean Turnage in 1985 new the value of the "WATER" an Attorney from Polson Mt. also a Tribal Member? His son worked at Kerr Dam? 2. Real suspicious how Montana Power and Washington Water Power had water court at Thompson Falls and the Flathead Irrigation Project did not file an objection??? 3. Things were going real smooth with help from Washington DC. 4. More help from the "Good OLD BOYS CLUB" in Helena MT., who would have thought that the Irrigation Districts were involved also? This is why the Project By Laws were changed in 1986. 5. And this Yellowstone River Case in 1992, Kerr Dam in the FERC Doc (1998) Produced the Grand Total in excess of 112,000,000 million dollars??? Montanas (use it or loose it attitude) maybe the 1972 prior rights, along with the 1889 Montana Constitution will be very useful. On Tuesday, July 4, 2017 7:49 AM, Robert Fanning <bruisernd73@gmail.com> wrote: There is a clear cut reason that Steve Bannon sits next to Donald Trump everyday... Watch Generation Zero and Understand that Robert T Fanning KNOWS about the fraud against the American People and is the Champion of the Forgotten Man. Send him to the US senate to get Montana's money back! Droit du Signeur, Jus Primae Noctis is the attitude that the USSC gust reflected to " We the people " with their ruling in favor of the Political class and the Deep State regarding your private property. Stand in defense of it or lose it. Today the asset class known as your waster. Set that precedent and they'll seize pensions next. " it's them or us." On Jul 4, 2017 7:26 AM, "Gene Erb Jr" <(b) (6) > wrote: Remembering the Magna Carta (Written for a good friend in Montana) The 4th of July bunting on the porch has been put away and the house cleaned up after the celebration with friends: what better time to reread the Magna Carta and think about American governance on this, the 800th anniversary of The Magna Carta? In 1215 AD, King Henry III of England, a very unpopular King, met with a group of rebel barons at Runnymeade, a wet-meadow on the S. Bank of the Thames River to make peace. In a matter of days they agreed to a "Great Charter" or Magna Carta that had been drafted by the Archbishop of Canterbury. The King signed the document (written in Latin in iron gall ink on parchment) that was copied by monks and distributed to the barons to be read to all Englishmen at Mass and in public squares. There are but a few of these copies still in existence. Though neither side upheld the agreement and subsequent Charters (1216, 1217, 1225, & 1297) came and went with current affairs, a certain statement of the limited powers of government (as in the King being subject to the law) and the rights of "free men" (barons) began working its way through history forming the Charters of the King for the 13 Colonies in America and eventually their bold Constitution defining the United State of America. Echoes of the barons' oath to "liberty, Church and realm" can be traced to the ringing words in the Declaration of Independence that, "When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary ... to dissolve the political bands which have connected them" and "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights", as well as in the Preamble to the US Constitution that, "We the People of the United States, in order to. establish Justice, . and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity do ordain and establish". Of the 60 or so clauses in the Charter, half concerned immediate matters for the King and barons that disappeared quickly in subsequent charters. The first 8 clauses were protections for landowners from government abuse in everything from taxes to inheritances and the rights of widows and very young heirs. The fact that Property Rights were truly first and foremost is a reminder of the historic and enduring nature of this most basic of all rights, without which the others begin to pale and erode. Clause 14 defined what we have come to know as "Representative Government", i.e. a common council or Parliament or in our case a Congress; and the principle of "no taxation without representation". Clauses 17 through 32 are concerned with seizures, courts, prosecutions and officials like sheriffs and constables. Clause 33 directed that all weirs (i.e. fish traps) be removed from rivers except on the sea coast. This was to make rivers more efficient travel-ways for people and commerce. Clauses 34 through 45 speak of the rights of persons accused in courts as well as protections of merchants and the behavior and qualifications of those enforcing the law. The concept of the presumption of innocence until proven guilty was first inferred here. Clauses 47 and 48 reclaim all forests and riverbanks as property of landowners and all "evil customs are to be abolished completely and irrevocably". No longer could the King or anyone other than the landowner cut wood or take game on the land of another. Clause 51 directs the removal of "all the foreign knights and their attendants". Clauses 52 through 59 concern how you can only be deprived of lands, castles, liberties or rights with the lawful judgment of equals". They also guarantee these rights to Welshmen while stating that, "No one shall be arrested or imprisoned on the appeal of a woman for the death of any person except her husband." While the Charter was high-sounding in many regards, peasants or "villeins" remained under the jurisdiction of barons and the granting of these rights and guarantees to "all men" was neither contemplated or in all likelihood even imaginable at this time. So today the United States of America is governed by a Constitution that owes much to the Magna Carta. - The 1st Amendment authorizes the right "to petition the government for redress of grievances". - The 4th Amendment forbids "unreasonable searches" and demands "no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause". - The 5th Amendment forbids being tried "twice"; being "deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of law"; and that it affirms the bedrock right, "nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation." - The 6th Amendment guarantees a "speedy and public trial by an impartial jury". - The 7th Amendment states, "the right of trial by jury shall be preserved". - The 14th Amendment forbids the States from depriving "any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor to deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws." You could say the US has come a long way in 800 years. For instance, we fought a great Civil War and gave all men equal rights; we gave women equal rights; and we became the most powerful and most desirable emigration object the world has ever known. You could say that but you would be wrong. Today, the President ignores the Constitution and many laws with impunity. The Congress (envisioned as a common council or Parliament) is made up of career politicians of two parties, each of which enables (differing only in speed) the nation's shift into a monolithic central government that controls all aspects of daily life at the behest of the President like the bureaucrats of ancient Kings and recent foreign dictators. The Supreme Court actually adds words to legislation to make laws fit desired political goals while "discovering" "penumbras and emanations" authorizing things never imagined or considered, much less mentioned, by the authors of the Constitution. What the Constitution described as 3 branches of government ("checks and balances") have regressed into one Washington monolithic ruling machine more like King John than George Washington. Governors are the closest things left in the US that could force Washington to some American Runnymeade to realign the debilitating power that is eroding the nation and its citizens, but that seems unlikely. The Jerry Browns and Daniel Malloys are typical of 1/3 of their fellow Governors in that they despise the Constitution, spend money like drunken sailors, and want to be just like the President when they grow up. Another third, like the Nixons and Hickenloopers are about as likely to do anything other than angle for federal money and tickle federal backs as a duck is to attack a fox. The last third, the Walkers and Pences are the fighters with Magna Carta/Constitution values and the ones that give us hope. If not any of these, can a Dr. Carson or Donald Trump offer hope? I know not. Can we resolve? - Federal politicians that take an oath to uphold the Constitution and then work to destroy the Bill of Rights unilaterally outside prescribed processes? - A Supreme Court that is no more "blind" like that statue with the scale than Chicago politicians dividing up a budget? - Rogue agencies like EPA claiming jurisdiction over all waters of the US, barring the use of coal for power, closing the last lead smelter in the nation; a Forest Service that gobbles up more and more land to be closed down and left unmanaged; a US Fish and Wildlife Service that takes land not for a public use without compensation and has reinstituted the claims of King John and his predecessors over game and forests; and an IRS and DOJ that work to destroy political opponents of the President? - Laws granting race and sex preferences to government-designated groups much like King John had for Normans, Saxons, Welchmen, etc. - Enormous spending and debt? - Spending distortions and program anomalies like welfare increases at the expense of Defense capabilities in an increasingly dangerous world? - Private property being steadily swallowed up by a government that already owns or controls over half the nation? - Scandals like Fast and Furious and destruction of records by bureaucracies and politicians that go unpunished? Can we resolve these things and somehow restore what we have lost during the last century and are losing today at an accelerating pace? Remembering the Magna Carta and fairly judging US governance today, 800 years later, leads to only one conclusion. Where did we go wrong? How did this happen? How can we get back on the road to good governance that we once had and let slip away? Is it even possible, short of a rebellion like the ones that birthed the Magna Carta and the US Constitution? Jim Beers 8 July 2015 Jim Beers is a retired US Fish & Wildlife Service Wildlife Biologist, Special Agent, Refuge Manager, Wetlands Biologist, and Congressional Fellow. He was stationed in North Dakota, Minnesota, Nebraska, New York City, and Washington DC. He also served as a US Navy Line Officer in the western Pacific and on Adak, Alaska in the Aleutian Islands. He has worked for the Utah Fish & Game, Minneapolis Police Department, and as a Security Supervisor in Washington, DC. He testified three times before Congress; twice regarding the theft by the US Fish & Wildlife Service of $45 to 60 Million from State fish and wildlife funds and once in opposition to expanding Federal Invasive Species authority. He resides in Eagan, Minnesota with his wife of many decades. To: Gene Erb (b) (6) I ] Cc: Janette Rosman[janette@ronan.net]; DNRC Land Board[landboard@mt.gov]; MT Rep Dick Barrett[rnewbar@gmail.com]; Richard Erb[richarderb@montana.com]; Bradley Hamlett[senatorhamlett@gmail.com]; Jack Horner[(b) (6) I]; Kristin Omvig[kristin@rmtlawp.com]; Steve Hughes :b) (6) I ]; Paul Guenzler[sharongu@ronan.net]; Dr. Kate Vandemoer[waterforworldpeace@gmail.com]; Patricia Gillis[patricia.gillis@ferc.gov]; Daniel Salomon[dansalomon12@gmail.com]; Paul Hunsucker :b) (6) I]; Paul Wadsworth (b) (6) I ]; David Lake[spud@cyberport.net]; MT Rep Steve Fitzpatrick[fitzpatricks@bresnan.net]; Bruce Fredrickson[bruce@rmtlawp.com]; Ryan Zinke :b) (6) ]; Ken Cornelius :b) (6) I ]; Mary Stranahan[mary@goodworksventures.com]; BruceTutvedtSD3[brucetutvedt@gmail.com]; Alan Mikkelsen[alanmikk@gmail.com]; Bill & Grace Slack[(b) (6) I]; Steve Daines[steve@stevedaines.com]; senator@tester.senate.gov[senator@tester.senate.gov]; Duane Mecham[duane.mecham@sol.doi.gov]; Jerry & Christine | Broken Hook Ranch[brknhkrnch@stignatius.net]; Jack & Susan Lake[jlake@ronan.net]; Jon Metropoulos[jon@metropouloslaw.com] From: Robert Fanning Sent: 2017-07-05T13:08:19-04:00 Importance: Normal Subject: Re: Thanks to Robert Fanning 4th of JULY 2017 . You may want to try N,Korea before you change the "CONSTITUTION". Received: 2017-07-05T13:08:29-04:00 https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/sovereign-debt-crisis/just-give-thegovernment-your-money-shut-up/ " just shut up and give the government your money " https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/sovereign-debt-crisis/just-give-thegovernment-your-money-shut-up/ On Jul 4, 2017 7:26 AM, "Gene Erb Jr" (b) (6) > wrote: Remembering the Magna Carta (Written for a good friend in Montana) The 4th of July bunting on the porch has been put away and the house cleaned up after the celebration with friends: what better time to reread the Magna Carta and think about American governance on this, the 800th anniversary of The Magna Carta? In 1215 AD, King Henry III of England, a very unpopular King, met with a group of rebel barons at Runnymeade, a wet-meadow on the S. Bank of the Thames River to make peace. In a matter of days they agreed to a "Great Charter" or Magna Carta that had been drafted by the Archbishop of Canterbury. The King signed the document (written in Latin in iron gall ink on parchment) that was copied by monks and distributed to the barons to be read to all Englishmen at Mass and in public squares. There are but a few of these copies still in existence. Though neither side upheld the agreement and subsequent Charters (1216, 1217, 1225, & 1297) came and went with current affairs, a certain statement of the limited powers of government (as in the King being subject to the law) and the rights of "free men" (barons) began working its way through history forming the Charters of the King for the 13 Colonies in America and eventually their bold Constitution defining the United State of America. Echoes of the barons' oath to "liberty, Church and realm" can be traced to the ringing words in the Declaration of Independence that, "When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary ... to dissolve the political bands which have connected them" and "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights", as well as in the Preamble to the US Constitution that, "We the People of the United States, in order to. establish Justice, . and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity do ordain and establish". Of the 60 or so clauses in the Charter, half concerned immediate matters for the King and barons that disappeared quickly in subsequent charters. The first 8 clauses were protections for landowners from government abuse in everything from taxes to inheritances and the rights of widows and very young heirs. The fact that Property Rights were truly first and foremost is a reminder of the historic and enduring nature of this most basic of all rights, without which the others begin to pale and erode. Clause 14 defined what we have come to know as "Representative Government", i.e. a common council or Parliament or in our case a Congress; and the principle of "no taxation without representation". Clauses 17 through 32 are concerned with seizures, courts, prosecutions and officials like sheriffs and constables. Clause 33 directed that all weirs (i.e. fish traps) be removed from rivers except on the sea coast. This was to make rivers more efficient travel-ways for people and commerce. Clauses 34 through 45 speak of the rights of persons accused in courts as well as protections of merchants and the behavior and qualifications of those enforcing the law. The concept of the presumption of innocence until proven guilty was first inferred here. Clauses 47 and 48 reclaim all forests and riverbanks as property of landowners and all "evil customs are to be abolished completely and irrevocably". No longer could the King or anyone other than the landowner cut wood or take game on the land of another. Clause 51 directs the removal of "all the foreign knights and their attendants". Clauses 52 through 59 concern how you can only be deprived of lands, castles, liberties or rights with the lawful judgment of equals". They also guarantee these rights to Welshmen while stating that, "No one shall be arrested or imprisoned on the appeal of a woman for the death of any person except her husband." While the Charter was high-sounding in many regards, peasants or "villeins" remained under the jurisdiction of barons and the granting of these rights and guarantees to "all men" was neither contemplated or in all likelihood even imaginable at this time. So today the United States of America is governed by a Constitution that owes much to the Magna Carta. - The 1st Amendment authorizes the right "to petition the government for redress of grievances". - The 4th Amendment forbids "unreasonable searches" and demands "no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause". - The 5th Amendment forbids being tried "twice"; being "deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of law"; and that it affirms the bedrock right, "nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation." - The 6th Amendment guarantees a "speedy and public trial by an impartial jury". - The 7th Amendment states, "the right of trial by jury shall be preserved". - The 14th Amendment forbids the States from depriving "any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor to deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws." You could say the US has come a long way in 800 years. For instance, we fought a great Civil War and gave all men equal rights; we gave women equal rights; and we became the most powerful and most desirable emigration object the world has ever known. You could say that but you would be wrong. Today, the President ignores the Constitution and many laws with impunity. The Congress (envisioned as a common council or Parliament) is made up of career politicians of two parties, each of which enables (differing only in speed) the nation's shift into a monolithic central government that controls all aspects of daily life at the behest of the President like the bureaucrats of ancient Kings and recent foreign dictators. The Supreme Court actually adds words to legislation to make laws fit desired political goals while "discovering" "penumbras and emanations" authorizing things never imagined or considered, much less mentioned, by the authors of the Constitution. What the Constitution described as 3 branches of government ("checks and balances") have regressed into one Washington monolithic ruling machine more like King John than George Washington. Governors are the closest things left in the US that could force Washington to some American Runnymeade to realign the debilitating power that is eroding the nation and its citizens, but that seems unlikely. The Jerry Browns and Daniel Malloys are typical of 1/3 of their fellow Governors in that they despise the Constitution, spend money like drunken sailors, and want to be just like the President when they grow up. Another third, like the Nixons and Hickenloopers are about as likely to do anything other than angle for federal money and tickle federal backs as a duck is to attack a fox. The last third, the Walkers and Pences are the fighters with Magna Carta/Constitution values and the ones that give us hope. If not any of these, can a Dr. Carson or Donald Trump offer hope? I know not. Can we resolve? - Federal politicians that take an oath to uphold the Constitution and then work to destroy the Bill of Rights unilaterally outside prescribed processes? - A Supreme Court that is no more "blind" like that statue with the scale than Chicago politicians dividing up a budget? - Rogue agencies like EPA claiming jurisdiction over all waters of the US, barring the use of coal for power, closing the last lead smelter in the nation; a Forest Service that gobbles up more and more land to be closed down and left unmanaged; a US Fish and Wildlife Service that takes land not for a public use without compensation and has reinstituted the claims of King John and his predecessors over game and forests; and an IRS and DOJ that work to destroy political opponents of the President? - Laws granting race and sex preferences to government-designated groups much like King John had for Normans, Saxons, Welchmen, etc. - Enormous spending and debt? - Spending distortions and program anomalies like welfare increases at the expense of Defense capabilities in an increasingly dangerous world? - Private property being steadily swallowed up by a government that already owns or controls over half the nation? - Scandals like Fast and Furious and destruction of records by bureaucracies and politicians that go unpunished? Can we resolve these things and somehow restore what we have lost during the last century and are losing today at an accelerating pace? Remembering the Magna Carta and fairly judging US governance today, 800 years later, leads to only one conclusion. Where did we go wrong? How did this happen? How can we get back on the road to good governance that we once had and let slip away? Is it even possible, short of a rebellion like the ones that birthed the Magna Carta and the US Constitution? Jim Beers 8 July 2015 Jim Beers is a retired US Fish & Wildlife Service Wildlife Biologist, Special Agent, Refuge Manager, Wetlands Biologist, and Congressional Fellow. He was stationed in North Dakota, Minnesota, Nebraska, New York City, and Washington DC. He also served as a US Navy Line Officer in the western Pacific and on Adak, Alaska in the Aleutian Islands. He has worked for the Utah Fish & Game, Minneapolis Police Department, and as a Security Supervisor in Washington, DC. He testified three times before Congress; twice regarding the theft by the US Fish & Wildlife Service of $45 to 60 Million from State fish and wildlife funds and once in opposition to expanding Federal Invasive Species authority. He resides in Eagan, Minnesota with his wife of many decades. To: Robert Fanning[bruisernd73@gmail.com] Cc: Janette Rosman[janette@ronan.net]; DNRC Land Board[landboard@mt.gov]; MT Rep Dick Barrett[rnewbar@gmail.com]; Richard Erb[richarderb@montana.com]; Bradley Hamlett[senatorhamlett@gmail.com]; Jack Horner Kb) (6) ]; Kristin Omvig[kristin@rmtlawp.com]; Steve Hughes :b) (6) ]; Paul Guenzler[sharongu@ronan.net]; Dr. Kate Vandemoer[waterforworldpeace@gmail.com]; Patricia Gillis[patricia.gillis@ferc.gov]; Daniel Salomon[dansalomon12@gmail.com]; Paul Hunsucker :b) (6) I ]; Paul Wadsworth (b) (6) I ]; David Lake[spud@cyberport.net]; MT Rep Steve Fitzpatrick[fitzpatricks@bresnan.net]; Bruce Fredrickson[bruce@rmtlawp.com]; Ryan Zinke :b) (6) I ]; Ken Cornelius (b) (6) I ]; Mary Stranahan[mary@goodworksventures.com]; BruceTutvedtSD3[brucetutvedt@gmail.com]; Alan Mikkelsen[alanmikk@gmail.com]; Bill & Grace Slack[(b) (6) I]; Steve Daines[steve@stevedaines.com]; senator@tester.senate.gov[senator@tester.senate.gov]; Duane Mecham[duane.mecham@sol.doi.gov]; Jerry & Christine | Broken Hook Ranch[brknhkrnch@stignatius.net]; Jack & Susan Lake[jlake@ronan.net]; Jon Metropoulos[jon@metropouloslaw.com]; Chas Vincent[cvvincent@hotmail.com]; Roger Starkel [(b) (6) I ] From: Gene Erb Jr Sent: 2017-07-05T16:47:20-04:00 Importance: Normal Subject: Re: Thanks to Robert Fanning 4th of JULY 2017 . You may want to try N,Korea before you change the "CONSTITUTION". Received: 2017-07-05T16:47:37-04:00 April 1 1952.pdf Kerr Dam Conveance.pdf 1. Robert looks like Chas, Steve and Vernon may not have been the the only folks caught stealing for the Government? In 1920 the Secretary of Interior allowed the Copper Kings to file on the 5 dam sites and 2,000,000 miners inches of water at the same locations that were already located by the Government Engineers. This document proves the Government and Attorneys need this for their retirement checks. 2. Mikkelsen may have forgotten about the Flathead Water Users Ass. or did he steal their water also. On Wednesday, July 5, 2017 11:08 AM, Robert Fanning <bruisernd73@gmail.com> wrote: https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/sovereign-debt-crisis/just-give-thegovernment-your-money-shut-up/ " just shut up and give the government your money " https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/sovereign-debt-crisis/just-give-thegovernment-your-money-shut-up/ On Jul 4, 2017 7:26 AM, "Gene Erb Jr" <(b) (6) Remembering the Magna Carta (Written for a good friend in Montana) > wrote: The 4th of July bunting on the porch has been put away and the house cleaned up after the celebration with friends: what better time to reread the Magna Carta and think about American governance on this, the 800th anniversary of The Magna Carta? In 1215 AD, King Henry III of England, a very unpopular King, met with a group of rebel barons at Runnymeade, a wet-meadow on the S. Bank of the Thames River to make peace. In a matter of days they agreed to a "Great Charter" or Magna Carta that had been drafted by the Archbishop of Canterbury. The King signed the document (written in Latin in iron gall ink on parchment) that was copied by monks and distributed to the barons to be read to all Englishmen at Mass and in public squares. There are but a few of these copies still in existence. Though neither side upheld the agreement and subsequent Charters (1216, 1217, 1225, & 1297) came and went with current affairs, a certain statement of the limited powers of government (as in the King being subject to the law) and the rights of "free men" (barons) began working its way through history forming the Charters of the King for the 13 Colonies in America and eventually their bold Constitution defining the United State of America. Echoes of the barons' oath to "liberty, Church and realm" can be traced to the ringing words in the Declaration of Independence that, "When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary ... to dissolve the political bands which have connected them" and "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights", as well as in the Preamble to the US Constitution that, "We the People of the United States, in order to. establish Justice, . and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity do ordain and establish". Of the 60 or so clauses in the Charter, half concerned immediate matters for the King and barons that disappeared quickly in subsequent charters. The first 8 clauses were protections for landowners from government abuse in everything from taxes to inheritances and the rights of widows and very young heirs. The fact that Property Rights were truly first and foremost is a reminder of the historic and enduring nature of this most basic of all rights, without which the others begin to pale and erode. Clause 14 defined what we have come to know as "Representative Government", i.e. a common council or Parliament or in our case a Congress; and the principle of "no taxation without representation". Clauses 17 through 32 are concerned with seizures, courts, prosecutions and officials like sheriffs and constables. Clause 33 directed that all weirs (i.e. fish traps) be removed from rivers except on the sea coast. This was to make rivers more efficient travel-ways for people and commerce. Clauses 34 through 45 speak of the rights of persons accused in courts as well as protections of merchants and the behavior and qualifications of those enforcing the law. The concept of the presumption of innocence until proven guilty was first inferred here. Clauses 47 and 48 reclaim all forests and riverbanks as property of landowners and all "evil customs are to be abolished completely and irrevocably". No longer could the King or anyone other than the landowner cut wood or take game on the land of another. Clause 51 directs the removal of "all the foreign knights and their attendants". Clauses 52 through 59 concern how you can only be deprived of lands, castles, liberties or rights with the lawful judgment of equals". They also guarantee these rights to Welshmen while stating that, "No one shall be arrested or imprisoned on the appeal of a woman for the death of any person except her husband." While the Charter was high-sounding in many regards, peasants or "villeins" remained under the jurisdiction of barons and the granting of these rights and guarantees to "all men" was neither contemplated or in all likelihood even imaginable at this time. So today the United States of America is governed by a Constitution that owes much to the Magna Carta. - The 1st Amendment authorizes the right "to petition the government for redress of grievances". - The 4th Amendment forbids "unreasonable searches" and demands "no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause". - The 5th Amendment forbids being tried "twice"; being "deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of law"; and that it affirms the bedrock right, "nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation." - The 6th Amendment guarantees a "speedy and public trial by an impartial jury". - The 7th Amendment states, "the right of trial by jury shall be preserved". - The 14th Amendment forbids the States from depriving "any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor to deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws." You could say the US has come a long way in 800 years. For instance, we fought a great Civil War and gave all men equal rights; we gave women equal rights; and we became the most powerful and most desirable emigration object the world has ever known. You could say that but you would be wrong. Today, the President ignores the Constitution and many laws with impunity. The Congress (envisioned as a common council or Parliament) is made up of career politicians of two parties, each of which enables (differing only in speed) the nation's shift into a monolithic central government that controls all aspects of daily life at the behest of the President like the bureaucrats of ancient Kings and recent foreign dictators. The Supreme Court actually adds words to legislation to make laws fit desired political goals while "discovering" "penumbras and emanations" authorizing things never imagined or considered, much less mentioned, by the authors of the Constitution. What the Constitution described as 3 branches of government ("checks and balances") have regressed into one Washington monolithic ruling machine more like King John than George Washington. Governors are the closest things left in the US that could force Washington to some American Runnymeade to realign the debilitating power that is eroding the nation and its citizens, but that seems unlikely. The Jerry Browns and Daniel Malloys are typical of 1/3 of their fellow Governors in that they despise the Constitution, spend money like drunken sailors, and want to be just like the President when they grow up. Another third, like the Nixons and Hickenloopers are about as likely to do anything other than angle for federal money and tickle federal backs as a duck is to attack a fox. The last third, the Walkers and Pences are the fighters with Magna Carta/Constitution values and the ones that give us hope. If not any of these, can a Dr. Carson or Donald Trump offer hope? I know not. Can we resolve? - Federal politicians that take an oath to uphold the Constitution and then work to destroy the Bill of Rights unilaterally outside prescribed processes? - A Supreme Court that is no more "blind" like that statue with the scale than Chicago politicians dividing up a budget? - Rogue agencies like EPA claiming jurisdiction over all waters of the US, barring the use of coal for power, closing the last lead smelter in the nation; a Forest Service that gobbles up more and more land to be closed down and left unmanaged; a US Fish and Wildlife Service that takes land not for a public use without compensation and has reinstituted the claims of King John and his predecessors over game and forests; and an IRS and DOJ that work to destroy political opponents of the President? - Laws granting race and sex preferences to government-designated groups much like King John had for Normans, Saxons, Welchmen, etc. - Enormous spending and debt? - Spending distortions and program anomalies like welfare increases at the expense of Defense capabilities in an increasingly dangerous world? - Private property being steadily swallowed up by a government that already owns or controls over half the nation? - Scandals like Fast and Furious and destruction of records by bureaucracies and politicians that go unpunished? Can we resolve these things and somehow restore what we have lost during the last century and are losing today at an accelerating pace? Remembering the Magna Carta and fairly judging US governance today, 800 years later, leads to only one conclusion. Where did we go wrong? How did this happen? How can we get back on the road to good governance that we once had and let slip away? Is it even possible, short of a rebellion like the ones that birthed the Magna Carta and the US Constitution? Jim Beers 8 July 2015 Jim Beers is a retired US Fish & Wildlife Service Wildlife Biologist, Special Agent, Refuge Manager, Wetlands Biologist, and Congressional Fellow. He was stationed in North Dakota, Minnesota, Nebraska, New York City, and Washington DC. He also served as a US Navy Line Officer in the western Pacific and on Adak, Alaska in the Aleutian Islands. He has worked for the Utah Fish & Game, Minneapolis Police Department, and as a Security Supervisor in Washington, DC. He testified three times before Congress; twice regarding the theft by the US Fish & Wildlife Service of $45 to 60 Million from State fish and wildlife funds and once in opposition to expanding Federal Invasive Species authority. He resides in Eagan, Minnesota with his wife of many decades. To: Gene Erb 1(b) (6) I ] Cc: MT Rep Dick Barrett[rnewbar@gmail.com]; DNRC Land Board[landboard@mt.gov]; Janette Rosman[janette@ronan.net]; Roger Starkel :b) (6) I]; Richard Erb[richarderb@montana.com]; Brad Hamlett[senatorhamlett@gmail.com]; Jack Horner1(b) (6) ; Kristin Omvig[kristin@rmtlawp.com]; MT Sen Chas Vincent[cvvincent@hotmail.com]; Steve Hughes (b) (6) I ]; Paul Guenzler[sharongu@ronan.net]; Dr. Kate Vandemoer[waterforworldpeace@gmail.com]; Daniel Salomon[dansalomon12@gmail.com]; Patricia Gillis[patricia.gillis@ferc.gov]; Paul HunsuckerKb)(6) I ]; Paul Wadsworth (b)(6) I ]; David Lake[spud@cyberport.net]; MT Rep Steve Fitzpatrick[fitzpatricks@bresnan.net]; Bruce Fredrickson[bruce@rmtlawp.com]; Ryan Zinke 1(b) (6) I ]; Ken Cornelius :b) (6) I ]; Mary Stranahan[mary@goodworksventures.com]; BruceTutvedtSD3[brucetutvedt@gmail.com]; Alan Mikkelsen[alanmikk@gmail.com]; Bill & Grace Slack :b) (6) I]; Steve Daines[steve@stevedaines.com]; Senator Jon Tester[senator@tester.senate.gov]; Jerry & Christine | Broken Hook Ranch[brknhkrnch@stignatius.net]; Duane Mecham[duane.mecham@sol.doi.gov]; Jon Metropoulos[jon@metropouloslaw.com]; Jack & Susan Lake[jlake@ronan.net] From: Robert Fanning Sent: 2017-07-05T19:46:17-04:00 Importance: Normal Subject: Re: Thanks to Robert Fanning 4th of JULY 2017 . You may want to try N,Korea before you change the "CONSTITUTION". Received: 2017-07-05T19:46:22-04:00 Rescuing " The Forgotten Man " from Banksters, bureaucrats , political whores and common thieves posing as ideologues....all who are scam artists. Right Bag man Cory Swanson? https://youtu.be/KBXHzu85BxE The movie that got Trump elected and will save his ass from the Deep State and advance his agenda. To: Robert Fanning[bruisernd73@gmail.com] Cc: MT Rep Dick Barrett[rnewbar@gmail.com]; DNRC Land Board[landboard@mt.gov]; Janette Rosman[janette@ronan.net]; Roger Starkel (b) (6) ]; Richard Erb[richarderb@montana.com]; Brad Hamlett[senatorhamlett@gmail.com]; Jack Horner (b)(6) ]; Kristin Omvig[kristin@rmtlawp.com]; MT Sen Chas Vincent[cvvincent@hotmail.com]; Steve Hughes (b)(6) ]; Paul Guenzler[sharongu@ronan.net]; Dr. Kate Vandemoer[waterforworldpeace@gmail.com]; Daniel Salomon[dansalomon12@gmail.com]; Patricia Gillis[patricia.gillis@ferc.gov]; Paul Hunsucker (b)(6) ]; Paul Wadsworth (b)(6) ]; David Lake[spud@cyberport.net]; MT Rep Steve Fitzpatrick[fitzpatricks@bresnan.net]; Bruce Fredrickson[bruce@rmtlawp.com]; Ryan Zinke|(b) (6) I]; Ken Cornelius :b) (6) ]; Mary Stranahan[mary@goodworksventures.com]; BruceTutvedtSD3[brucetutvedt@gmail.com]; Alan Mikkelsen[alanmikk@gmail.com]; Bill & Grace Slack :b) (6) ]; Steve Daines[steve@stevedaines.com]; Senator Jon Tester[senator@tester.senate.gov]; Jerry & Christine | Broken Hook Ranch[brknhkrnch@stignatius.net]; Duane Mecham[duane.mecham@sol.doi.gov]; Jon Metropoulos[jon@metropouloslaw.com]; Jack & Susan Lake[jlake@ronan.net] From: Gene Erb Jr Sent: 2017-07-06T07:59:34-04:00 Importance: Normal Subject: Re: Thanks to Robert Fanning 4th of JULY 2017 . You may want to try N,Korea before you change the "CONSTITUTION". Received: 2017-07-06T07:59:46-04:00 Lands on the Former Flathead Reservation.pdf 1. (SCAM) April 11, 2015 Montana State Legislature, we won they had to bribe the freshman legislator from Great Falls in order change the rules of "LAW". 2. (SCAM) Intimidate land owners with the word "RACIST". 3. (SCAM) In 1927 (LEON TROTSKY) invented the word racism to intimidate anyone that disagreed with "COMMUNISM". 4. (SCAM) Reinvent the Reservation, and enter a "TREATY" on Reservation that doesn't exist? On Wednesday, July 5, 2017 5:46 PM, Robert Fanning <bruisernd73@gmail.com> wrote: Rescuing " The Forgotten Man " from Banksters, bureaucrats , political whores and common thieves posing as ideologues.... all who are scam artists. Right Bag man Cory Swanson? https://youtu.be/KBXHzu85BxE The movie that got Trump elected and will save his ass from the Deep State and advance his agenda.