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FILE NAME: Asbestos in Plastics (AIP)
DATE: 1960 Nov 28
DOC#: AIP002
DOCUMENT DESCRIPTION: Meeting Minutes - Asbestos Technical and Standards Committee of the SPI Reinforced Plastics Division
T H E S O C I E T Y O F i H t P L A S T I C S INOUSfVIV. INC.
230 PARK AVCHUr H tw O H . M. *.
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Roosevelt Hotel Mev YOfk City
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Present:
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Eoaiaid v. Jtosato, Chairman, Teleccnp'jtlos Corp, *>03 Ststlejp Office Bldg,,
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Boetoo 16, Mas.
John A. Bettes, Jr., Raybesto-Nanbttsn, Joe., Manheio, to.
K. T.Crbucii, Johns-Manvllle fleseorfb Center, Mom-tile, H. J.
Charles R. Its, Jr., Raybestos-NWjhattsua, Inc., IMOO . OroSgethorpa,
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Fullerton, Calif. .
E. A. FUrrell, lale Asbestos of Quebec, Ltd., P. 0 . Bo* 127, so. Plainfield, S..J.
M. M. Gibson, Itaybestos-Manhcttun, toe., Konbcto, Po.
w. L'. Groves. CoDtlti*otl*W,i*ODd Plbro Carp., Sub. toe Budd Oo-, Hrk, Cel.
Howard A. Hittoar, Ordnance Corpe, PrankTord Artua, PhiludolpWe 37,.Pa.
T. B. Holdi-idge, Horaco.'Materlaid, 00 Old Country Rd., Carden City, L. I., H. r.
fl. V. King, Bettellc itesoflal.Inotitute, J05 King Ave,, Colunbus 1, Ohio
0.'R. Hugger, Pieatleuy Arsenal, Building X&3, -Dover,
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X H. A. Qolth, Ben Aebeotqs mtec, Ltd;, Ihetford Mines, Sueboo, Canoda
L. Splvak, Rosere Corp., Rogers, Conn. - `
Z. E. Wild, Nlcolet Industries, Inc.,..yiprben Perk, H. J.
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Max F. Zullig, H. K. rorttr Co., toWld Div,, Whitehead MTrenton, N. ..
Qmrlea L. Condit, SPI, JJO PorkAYe., Hew York,.H. 7.(.Secretary) -
Under the direction of Castnick Rdunto of 'felecwwutlng Corporotioc, s third ceeting
of the Asbestos Technical aod Staniarda Cosjslttee Of
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Division convened at,10:00 u.w.' In'the Rooocvelt Hotel,' Hew York City.
Following tbe usual self-lntroductloM. Mr,. Hceoto referred those to attendance at
the.oeetlng to on agenda Around which the toy's dlecusalons would revolve.
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'Before obarktoK upon a d lsc u sslto of the p rin cip al topics to be considered a t the ;
day's meeting, M r/Rosato tod 1opted th a t one o f th e bwile decisions to be.Bade Is
whether the Asbestos Technical and Standards a c tiv ity 1* to be contlnueai th a t i f .
I t can be agreed th a t tbe original scope o f la te n t Is aeealagfia, then to hie
opinion, the work of th e Coualttee should be continued. ,Ee asked, th erefo re, th a t
before the day's jUtcpsBloas a n t eCBUdeted th a t egw eaent be reached as to whether
the activ ity - la to be. puraued fu rth e r.
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Mr. Rooirto referre d th e G crolttee sabers' to aS epteober 19^0 d ra ft o f e b u lle tin
providing cu rren t svallaM-e infom atirm anil data, ctaeeroing'the two o f be*toe as
, o rslnfbreeaeat l a reinforced p la s tie s , This d r a f t v*s circ u lated to vide n H -
lug. l i s t p rio r t o th e flay'* n estin g In.order .that- tboeo in attendance would have
on opportunity o f reviewing the proposal before ccclng to tb* acting. Mr. Rotate
eld . th a t tb s d r a f t o f th e b u lle tin .yes prepared b y ! , based .upon lnfoneatlon
BUhn^Ued as a r e s u lt of th e f i r s t two meetings o f the Asbestos Ceasoittes; l u l l . .
eatin g th a t, th e b u lle tin has been augKnted with technical information av a ilable
In -the porosnent li t e r a t u r e .
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If one te to c i te th e purpose of th e Asbestos Technical end Standards Conalttee,
Mr.' Desoto sa id th a t "the p rin cip al reasons fo r th e 'Ccemlttee ore attrib u te d to
the graving deaand for asbestos reinforced p la stic s end th a t an education i t re
quired In b e tte r understanding asbestos as applied to reinforced p la n tie s. Raw
asbestos can'Introduce a m ultiplicity of. probleas i f i t s variables are not under
stood. These v ariab les In elude conditions slich ae cheatcal an aly sis, grading,
classification', 'eta."
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I n 'h is concluding renarlra regarding tb s pnrpooo o f the Conalttee, Mr. tosato. ranlnded thoso p resen t th a t i t is. tb s continuing function of. th e 8PI to keep the p la s tic s industry up to data In a l l fie ld s o f p la s tie s development.
Buujjarm. oh A3bestcs HBaffpncED'piAgitcs
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Mr. Rosato then turnod tbe C a m ltte s's atten tio n to the d ra ft of the b u lle tin which
- he has prepared f o r consideration- a t the day's ebbtin g on the use o f asbestos as
u roinfqrceroent in reinforced p la stic s products; saying again th a t tb s d ra ft was
prepared ah. a r e s u lt o f ce rtain information subnltted to bin ns a re s u lt of e a r lie r
.' nestings.
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Hr. posoto then ravieved the d raft perograph for. paragraph with oeebera of the
Ccraittee. '
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Raarrangenent o f Copy
Curine the discussion o f .th e d r a ft of the b u lle tin on asbestos reinforced p la s tic a , thy copy woo rearranged in order to place a t th e beginning of tie- a m p lia tio n per tin e n t Inforca tics on th e use of nsbeatoe as a relnforcesent in reinforced products,
fo llo n ing is the new Table o f Contents fo r the b u lle tin :
1. Index
2. introduction
. ' 3 P ro p erties o f asbesto reinforced p len ties
b, History
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5; A vailability. .
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6. Fiber cbsracterietisr '
7. References
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Introduction
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Jn rdyinwicg tho in tro d u ctio n to the tr e a tis e , the Cerwittee node sev eral e d ito r ia l
changes In th e copy including:,
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\ 1 . Tbe d eletio n -o f rafeireucee tu "ARP" end in i t s .stead, vben.
:.the meeead d ra ft la n d s> ;the o w d lttW w ill re fe r 16
"Asbestos .R etn fo reed P laatic* .1! ' '
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2, "Mhendinnal stab ility ^ -a n d "abiationT.were aided to th e 11stin g ;o f typical properties nr'requlraaeB ts. '
3 . A teferetoce to P rta ix `Ccjspoundie m g added to th e lis tin g of typical product* using asbestos ec a'relnforcemsnt. `
b. ' I t vaa unseated in redoing th e introduction, th a t broad categories o f applications be shown'end under each broad
- category tbs typical end-use products.
5. Reference w ill be node in a new d ra ft of the introduction
to the fe e t' th a t asbestos i s being' used In cfntotnation w ith
' d iffe re n t -fibero each e s . g la ss, la order to boolr a lly im
prove th e 'pro p ertie s o f 'th e finished product such aa te n s ile
strength a t elevated-teaperatures.
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History
Qte Cctanitteet reviewed, the sectio n of .the b u lle tin on h ltto ry vblcb Includes
reference to general feAtures, origin, ore deposits, grading, classificatio n o f
f ib e rs , mining, B illing, processing, e tc . In general, i t was agreed th a t perhaps
the d etailed information under th e eecjlop on h isto ry Is too volaulnoua sod in
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soy Bot b t iKiuDio^ful to t b i
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aahhstoe as a reinforcement in a finished reinforced plastics product'. I t as
agreed th a t consideration bb -given in redoing th e section on h isto ry to incorpo
r a te e bibliography o f reference works Oc asbostoa in order t o be able to d elete
some of tb s d etailed lnioncatlon no' found ic th e d ra ft. TUIa n a tte r v iU be given
careful study by the Indlvidnelo Assigned la te r in the reetih g to begin re la log
the b u lle tla . (References to th e ^Jlejrstfieattoo of Russian aabeatoa.fiber* vere^
deleted throughout; the copy). (D Committee also deleted alX reference to h ealth
and'safety facto rs.)
I t 'vae agreed' th a t in redoing th e eeotion on h isto ry , a paragraph or poragropb would be w ritten -on production figure, inoerder to I llu s tr a te th e scope of th e asbestos industry. W is lnfoneatlon might v e il lend its e lf to inclusion in a tonnage chart under the sectio n e n title d "Ore bepoeit."
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Fiber C haracteristics,
In reviewing the section on f ib e r c h a ra c te ristic s th e Ccsmlttee decided to d elete
a l l reference t o the fam ilies o f asbestos fibero known'as "Antboptnrllite and
"T re e o lite ."
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The -Coanlttee also decided to remove from th is section, Table 2-6, which illu s tr a te s
th e type of v aria tio n which occurs in d iffe re n t nine. ' '
I t vaa fu rth e r decided to add a paragraph to t h i s section o f th e docosent, vbn i t
Is rew ritten, -on the subject "Kotor o f C r y e ta ia te a tW presenting d e ta ils of time
end temperature relatio n sh ip s.
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P roperties o f JUteatoa .RelnfCreed P lastics
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The C ontittee then spent h o st o f th e remaining boars o f the meeting In dlacuttsing
,tha section o f tb s b u llgt La which I t mpst p ertin en t to the designer s a l p o te n tia l
| . user o f u b e s tq s , namely,' `P ro p erties of Asbestos BelafOrced P lastic*" In the
. f i r s t piso* i t vfcs re a lise d th a t th in copy u rt be enlarged considersbly. In view
o f tb s f c t th a t the potentl& l u ssr v l l l be core in tersetW In information on tbe
' properties Of. asbestos reinforced p la stie s' than. mgr other data .fow l In tb s
conpUatlon
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I t vnp generally agreed th a t In redoing th is section on p ro p erties, i t would be enlarged to Include.wr* p e rtin e n t d e ta ils on tb e adventget. c f asbestos ns a re in
forcement In reinforced.p la stic product*. Pot instance, tb s advsntegeo o f long asbestos fib e rs v l l l be d etailed , ap explanation and d e fin itio n o f the various
asbesto forms v l l l be presented, ao v e il as d etailed tnfom ntlon on ty p ita l oseo o f asbestos In the end-use. 'product, Reference v l l l be made to prapregs and premix molding; c e rta in perttneot-Table* fro M ilitary sp e cificatio n HH-P-P5770 e n title d , "P la stic Materials, Asbeotos Base - Phenolic. Resin, low Pressor K ainates" w ill be added to th is section of the document. Tbe address o f the National. E le c tric a l Manufacturers Association w ill be Given I n .t h i s p art of the compilation, in order
th a t tbe p o te n tia l neer may v r jte to XBMA fo r standard sp ecificatio n s e x istin g there.- In enlarging; th is '.section on p ro p erties the Committee v l l l also lnoluSe p ertin en t Tkblcs fron M U ltary S pecification JOB-H-lto. Reference v l l l be made to e le c tric a l p ro p erties and the Improved grades available fo r these ap p lica tio n s.
In summary, tbe section ot the b u lle tin on Properties v lll be enlarged and de
ta ile d , la xder tp present sore p o sitiv e approach on tbe use o f as beetoo in
reinforced p la s tic s p a rts. This section la to revolve around tbe reliev in g o u tlin e
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' . i. introduction
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2 . Reinforcing forma
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3. Up-to-date dhta
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U. hby use'asb esto s
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I t voa agreed th a t th e .q la In redoing the section on P roperties o f Asbesto Rein
forced P la stic s Is to educate.tbe p o te n tlsl uoer, o d d e r and designer, and appeal
: x . to bln to Investigate tb e use o f asbestos in the finiehed product-
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I t vos agreed before the dlccucciooo closed tbqt the Asbestos- Technical and
Statdsrdc Committee of- the SPI Reinforced P lastics Division would continue as nn
activ e Cnamittee of the; D ivision. The f u ll owing assignments were then made to
. Individuals' represented a t th e day's meeting, is order th a t * new d ra ft o f tbe
b u lle tin on Asbestos be compiled hy a t 'l e a s t February 1 , 1961:
1. Introduction ( th is occtton on Introduction to be w ritten a fte r
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. a l l other sections have been conpleted).
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2. P roperties o f asbestos - reallx tn g th a t th is ie the uoet In-'
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' p o rten t .section of- tb s document, special emphasis v l l l be placed
. ox, .incorporating p ertinent Information vbleh l-meaningful to-
the designer and p o te n tia l customer.- R. T; Crouch of Johns
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kngvUlO Ressarcb i s to coordinate tbe preparation o F a .re d ra ft.
priEEo sectio n on Properties o f Asbestos Reinforced P lastic.
Nr. Croftch U to pieparei " firs t ,'to ift Of thelafom etleU ' arid drenlfcte th is graft to U '.thosepresent lit tbe'4ay`s eetlng b y n e U te r tW ie b n ia iy /lV ^ I t la'qttltapbaaitla that during the Xfitb Conference'Wr;tha. 8FX RsinfW*ed' P lastics Division,
Hr. crotftb v i i l gett< ?geth*rvitlicertl Beabera of tha Cat,-
n ltte e , in o M n to go over.a R ttM W b d raft of th is doenoent.
3 T. B. BoXftridgg of Xaraco Material la to w r i t the action on BTiTtory and, again, ie to .d ircu late a proposed dooument to *11 those present a t tbs ily ' neetlag tv itstruary X.
t . Fiber eharadterldtlcB - M, C. Bhw.cf Abestos Bertlle Ihstltttte
1'to redo the draft w R w Characteristics, circulating i t ip
' a ll those present By February I ,
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5. fiefdrencee - Hcesrt. Crouch. -Btfldirtdge-and Sfaav, are to obtain
throughout the revision vbrk, references of existing lite ra tu re
on asbestos; ao that tU e e re fa rsn e e i nay t e Placed a t a la te r
date *M a fin a l eeetion In th e htCLUtln vben I t Is approved ca
. . a fornal document.
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TOe.meatlhg see.adjourned a t 2:00 p.n.
Respectfully eubeltted,
Charles 1 Ooadlt, Secretary CLCibrv '