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. .`inutes GZNIJUL i SiTING Asbestos Textile Institute _ June 4, 1965 rotel Le Trovence, Thetford lines, IN ATTENDANCE: 4 AMERICAN ASBESTOS TEXTILE CCRP. J.w. Weber J.L. Rainey G.S. Fabel J.W. Christenbury Nm. raaskant D. F. Ouealy h.:;. torter coiTany, inc. J.T. Griffis J..D. rcCluer D.E. Childers RAYDESTOS-i AilHATTAN, HE. J.A. Brown, Jr. L.C. Williams ASBESTOS CORPORA'CICN LTD. G.F. Jenlcins J.P. Wrcnski i-'.W. Oliver r.2. LeClerc (A.C.S. Ltd.) R.B. Smith E. L. Alexander 'A.C.S. Ltd.) J.W. Hawkins W.W. Oughtred tM.r.Carson A.L.'Penhale G.F.A. Drink N.C. Pharo . '' TALLI'AN-kC CLU3KSY FABRICS CO. Ted D. iVcClu skey* - * TURNER u HEWALL LTD. Bernard Lincoln DELL ASBESTOS 5TICS LTD. G. W. Smith F. T. Smith Wm.J.W. Smith U.S. RUBBER COi PANY A.C. Link D.T. Austin, Jr. R. Dodds-IIebron `.'orman- L. Oarr S.J. Teele, Jr. B.D. Hubbard J.II. Wolfsie (Dr.) CASSIAP. ASBESTOS CORP. J.D. Christian H. Grit2uk - BRITISH BELTING & ASBESTOS LTD. J.L. fitchell T-.T. Tigert R. Narson (Ontario Research Foundation) CADV/ALADER, WICK IRSIIAT & TAFT T.Jay Flocken (Legal Counsel ) JOI INS- I'Af IV I'LLE CCRT. W.S. Hough E.A. Schuman . W.C. Atkinson C.L. Sheckler Dr. IC.V/. Smith ASBESTOS TETTILE INSTITUTE .T.E. Sun bury (Exec. Secretary) SOC7.ET2 ADCiiYIE FRAiEAISE DU FERCDC ! onsieur Collineau " Decaestecker , -AQ-WV LAKE ASBESTOS OP PUEBEC LTD. r.J. i'essel E.A. Farrell , IL.W. Nelson U.S. PUBLIC ilSALTii SERVICE Dr. L.J. Cralley JOlINS-MANVILL2 CO. OF CAiAOA LTD. it.W. Hendry ** GUESTS ** Karl V. Lindell, Chairman, Canariian"Johns-Nanville Co., Ltd. J.O.Eby,Vice Pres.f: Genl.i gr. ,Jef frey i in e, Can. Johns-Nama lie R. Gagnon, Lake Asbestos of Quebec, Ltd. L. Tiu2e, Nine f`gr.. Lake Asbestos of Puebec, Ltd. ; .J. fessel. President, Lake Asbestos of Puebec, Ltd. A.L. Penhale, Chairman V. President, Asbestos Corporation Ltd* G.F. Jenkins, Director, Asbestos Ccrpcration Ltd. :o.Ltd. 10/93 001593 .'inures - General Meeting - ccnt'nued: Guests: . ? L. iontpetit, Manager, Ticolet Asbestos T^nes Ltd. Ivan Sabourin, Q.C., Montreal '. C.D. Crown, Dell Asbestos Mines Ltd. . J.A.D. ."arcotte, Director, Asbestos Corporation Dr. R.J. I'errill, Tgr., Carey-Canadian'Mines Ltd. F.T. Hodgson, .'Onager, Flintfcote Tines Lt&j. , . \^ '* . ': .* . . ' i" 1 T. Lachance, Q.A.T.A. Dust Engineer, Thetford Industrial Clinic '* R.S. Coleman, Manager, National Asbestos Tines Ltd. Dr. L.J. Cralley, TJ.S. Public Health Service, Cincinnati, Chio Dr,K.W. Smith,Tedical Director*, Johns-Tan vi 41e Ccrp.,New York, K.Y Dr .'J .Il.'.Volfsie, Medical Director, United States Rubber Co.,New York. >-r.H.L,Garr;Director,Sell Asbestos Tines Ltd.,Sales tgr.. At las Asb r Dr.- R. Tarson, Director, Ontario Research Foundation Gritzulc, Asst, to the Geni. Tgr., Cassiar Asbestos Coro., Ltd. Dr. Paul Cartier, Thetford Industrial Clinic, Thetford ; ire s Geo. S. rabel, American Asbestos Textile Corn.. A. Coliineau, Societe Anonyme Francaise Du Fercdo, * T. Decacstecicer, " " " t M "* ,. In addition to the above guests we were privileged to have thir ty ladies accompany their husbands to our Iuncheuii on Friday, Jure 4$r. .-----Minutes of the Meetirig -___ 1. The meeting was called to order by President J.A. Drown, Jr., who expressed our appreciation for the opportunity of holding*" th is meeting in Thetford Mines, and thanked our hosts, Asbestos Corpora-, tion. Ltd.; Dell Asbestos lines Limited; Canadian Johns-Tanvili& Cc., Ltd.; Cassiar Asbestos Corporation Limited; aad Lake Asbestos oT Que bec Limited, for their wonderful hospitality and meticulous handling of the many details incidental^ to the meeting. The miners '"'Committee who handled the local arrangements consisted of T.r. Carson, Asbestos Corp.; :.T.W. Hendry of Can. Johns-Manvilie Co.; Roland Gagnon, Lake Asbestos of Quebec; Wo.J.W. Smith of Dell Asbestos Tines representing Cassiar Asbestos* Ccrp.; *`anrt F.Parker'Smith, Dell Asbestos .ines, who was Chairman of the committee.0 To all of these gentlemen we extend* individual thanks for a job that was exceedingly well .done! President Drown then introduced a number of ^ft^"^PRflP#P*yrests who were attending this meeting, following which he explained that due to the fact that some of the ren had to leave before noontine in or der to catch a widafternoon flight' out of I'ontreal, the usual, agm da had been reversed to enable them to hear our several guest speakers. jAQ-WV 2. Our first sneaker was Tr. T.J. Messel, President of Lake Asbestos of `uebec, Limited, who welcomed the rembers of A.T.I. with these re marks: 'Tresident Brown, t'enbers of A.T.I., Guestss It *is a pleas ure, on behalf of the Canadian Asbestos i iners, to welcome you to * asbestos country with its nan- >ade mountains and to tell you ko'V _ pleased and honoured we are to have, you hold your meeting in Thetford I ines. % .. . .. While I have not been very active in A.T.I., I have followed its **r'< very closely through the reading of the fine and comprehensive re- ports which your Secretary so ably ruts together. I have also tillowed closely the cooperative work which your technical commit:*?:* have .been doing with the Quebec Asbestos*ining Association, whfif. 10/93 001594 Minutes - General Meeting - continued: - 3 is much appreciated and mutually beneficial. 1 know the work cr an association such as yours is a diffivult one due to wide range and* complexity of problems that have to oe dealt with and wish to con gratulate yc::r association in the srlenrtid and effective way that i*conducts its affairs and comes with your industry problems. * % * As yet there is no shortage of Group 3 srinning fibres from the mini in Canada, as I can still see rlenty of order-takers around. Howl ever, there are indications of possible shortages in some of the as bestos cement graces. At one time the spinning fibre grades were the mainstay of the asbestos producing industry, but this has now been supplanted by the asbestos cement fibre grades together with expanded uses of the shorter fibres. during i64, the Canadian Asbestos producing industry employed over ` 6oro people ?nd exported approximately l,333,C(*.o tons of asbestos"* with an approximate gross value of S155,Odo,:iOO. Cf this total only 3h,6*'7 tons were crude and spinning grad.es with an approximate total value of Sid.000,000. The U.S.A. market consumed approximately 14,600 tons of crudes and spinning fibres with a value of approxi mately $6,400,000, and this has remained rather constant for the~rast 3 or 4 years. The only other large suppliers of spinning fi'-res are Russia and Rhodesia. The figures we obtained during our visit to " Russia would indicate approximately 20 to 25 thousand tons of spin ning fibres out of - an estimated total production of 1,600,000 t> ns; so Canada still holds its dominant position as supplier of textile fibres. The cooperative work that is being carried on for improved fibre testing re thods and standards should lead to a better understanding between the producing and consuming asbestos industries. Mr. Sabourin, as attorney for '.A.M.A., will tell you somethin of the work that is beina considered with resnect to the health olf the workers in our industry. I feel there should be room for cooperative work between the A.T.I. and '.A.i'.A. I hope your visit among us will be a most hapry and pleasai t one and will result in a better understanding of our mutual problems, aid I know the Local Committees of A.T.I. and the Canadian Asbestos Minors have done a splendid job in making your stay amongst us both hapny and memorable." 3. President Drown then introduced Dr. Kenneth W. Smith, Medical Director of Johns-Tanville Corpcration, who stressed the desirabili ty, indeed the necessity, of the asbestos industry telling the truth about the health of its employees and giving meaningful reports as to company experience. He pointed out that some of the more prolific writers on so-called "asbestosis" have relatively little background of actual "cases" on which to base their theories or conclusions, as compared with our collective and also individual company experience over many years time. Dr. Smith urged full cooperation on the part of various companies to open their records, and full cooperation with the work of the U.S. Public Health Service. He stated that the gen eral overall health of Johns-t anville longtime employees compared favorably v/ith industry in general, and pointed to the steadily ex panding membership in their 25 year club as evidence of this fact. AQ-WV 4. President 3rown then introduce* Mr. Karl V. Lindell, Chairman Canadian Johns-Manvilie Co.. Ltd., who expressed his pleasure a: ing the opportunity to attend this meeting, anri-.said that he wc-l lir.e to have ! r. Ivan Sabourin, >.C., attorney fer the C.A.. uc about the work that has been done in past years to protect t-.e iv- 10/93 001595 'inutes - :enjnl ,-g - health of asbestos workers, and about the outline Planned tor the newly formed '3.A..*:.A. program for Research in i'ining Pathol^g" f0- ths Study of Respiratory Diseases as related to Chrysotiie~Asbesf's Some of the very interesting points brought out by Mr. Sabourin were dust counting and tor ?C-ray procedures. Also worked with those ko-- ritals in Canada that had compiled background experience in* the fie1 ' of respiratory diseases. raid tr-.bt.v2 to Dr. Paul Cartier of the Tfcetford Industrial Clinic, rointing cut that Dr. Cartier had contributed man''' valuable papers ' ar.a rennets on asbestoses over a span of many years. Also that. Er. Grainger of Canadian jcksf.-.'anvilie Co. ltd., Dr. Georve'"wright o* Cleveland, and Dr. A.j. Voiwaid of Det.vo.it deserved much nredir" * for tneir work and contributions to the increasing fund of general knowledge regarding as best os is. 3* Slressed that tha mining industries recuire their doctors to keep up with the wo vis being clone by others on pneumoconiosis research, and to attancl meetings both here and abroad, end participate in the clis- cuasiona at those meetings. He stated with great emphasis that the k*owledae possessed by the industry's doctors on the biological ef fects of chrysotiie asbestos was not surpassed elsewhere in the world, r-entioned that contacts have been made with doctors in Rus sia, East Germany. Finland, Italy, England and other countries. Expressed his belief that cancer is not necessarily involved due to association with asbestos. . Pointed out that the A.T.A. artaels that appeared only about two weeks ago was net convincing - only informa tive - indicates much further work is needed - regrets adverse pub licity that results from such articles. Stressed the opinion that while the welfare of the worker should be rhr. responsibility of management, we need to know core about tne worker's environment after he leaves the plant. Errlair.ed that the Q.A.J-.A. program is still in the formative stare, "hey seek alliance with some university, such as 1-icGili, frr e::r-''l:, sc tha: authoritative background for publicity can be nad. The .ro- gr?.m will start modestly, with competent men coming into it - nen wxth a vast background of actual experience. They recognize the need to consolidate experiences, and also having traveled widely in other countries, they find that research units are usually located adjacent :o a Xrge, well eauipped hospital. Frequently, the worker has a cv.ditinn that is not attributable to association witn asbestos, dis- cjvor-'.-u through cooperation with the hospital staff. _ I i conclusion Kr. Sabourin expressed the thought that it would be wonderful il' the Asbestos Textile Institute could join their efforts to the Q.A.M.A. program for the benefit of all - deplored the isola tion of efforts and pocr liaison between research laboratories and research units. Suggested that a common-council as a governing bedy might be the answer and result in more rapid progress. Z. The next speaker was Dr, L.J. Cralley, of the U.S. Public Health Service, who for the past several years has been supervising tr.e ex tensive Environmental Study of asbestos employees in textile plants in the U.S.A. Dr. Cralley said that the Stud" was going well, .-'".d fine cooperation from both management and employees has been e:<-eri- enced. The U.S. Fublic Health Service is now extending their wori:^ into other asbestos industries such as asbestos-cement, etc. ' that the results to date certainly justify the program and its iher expansion. LAQ-WV . CQ0333S 10/93 001598 J'inutes - General .Vesting - continued: - 5 - f In other areas of activity the U.S.P.H. Service presented a parer at the recent American Industrial Conference at Houston, Texas, which summarized their study experience in five plants. Draft copies of two napers were distributed to our Air Hygiene Comnittee on June 3rd. The first paper by Jeremiah D. Lynch of the Dept, of Health, Educa- * tion and Welfare, titled ^Asbestos Study - Procedure and Findings" and the second paper, titled "Relationship of Inpinger Counts to Fibre Concentration by .`embrane Filters in Asbestos Textile Pints". (Both of these papers are covered more fully in the report of otr Air Hygiene & Mfg. Committee which is attached to these minutes.) Dr. Cralley plans to speak at Seminars frequently in the future, such as University of Texas, insurance companies, etc. .Mentioned that since the conference on "3iological Effects of Asbestos", held in New York last October, the New York Academy of Sciences has now . established a 'Division of Environmental Sciences". At the conclu sion of his talk Dr. Cralley answered several questions from the audience. ' 6. President Drown then asked ix. N.W. Hendry, General Sal es Tana- ger for Canadian Johns-I-anville Asbestos Limited, to report for the Fibre Committee. iVx. Hendry stated that inventories of spinning fibre are ample but substantially below the levels of one year ago. Demand for Group 3 fibres remained relatively flat in 1964 in most countries of the world with the exception of the U.3. and Europe. The increase in demand in the latter area was considerably greater than in the U.S. Business conditions in Japan are fair, Italy poor, Germany fair, United Kingdom good, and the remainder of Europe relatively good in the asbestos textile and asbestos-cement fields. It is expected, however, that the second half of 1965 will show an improvene nt over the first half in those areas of the world in which business condi tions have been below average. . The average reduction in the -200 mesh He Nett content of spinning fibres from 1953 to 1965 is in the order of 50 - 75 per cent. New asbestos fibre production projected from new properties in Cana da includes the Clinton Creek property of Cassiar in 1968, Asbestos Hill of Asbestos Corporation in 1970, and the possible Reeves proper ty of J.f*. in Northern Ontario. This new production will supply the asbestos-cement market principally. Russian production in 1964 at ' 1,600,000 tons exceeded that of Canada for the first time and ft is trend is expected to continue in the forward years. . ,Q-WV 7. Hr. r.Jay Flocken, our Legal Counsel, on being introduced by President Brown, gave an interesting talk on the subject of "Reci procity and Antitrust Law Enforcenent in Relation to Reciprocity". A brief summary of his remarks follows: The subject of reciprocity is receiving renewed interest from antitrust enforcement agencies. Reciprocity generally is the rractice whereby companies make concess ions to one another in order to promote their own business interest. The most common form of reciprocity is reciprocal buying. Although several recent merger cases which in part involved attacks on recip rocal buying practices, no court has yet held nor has the government yet charged that such practices are illegal in and of themselves. Except for one merger case still pending in the courts, no government antitrust suit has challenged reciprocal practices as illegal and unreasonable restraints of trade or anticompetitive practices with out also attacking some other conduct. While it is still an open question, therefore, whether such practices may be illegal without 10/93 001597 Minutes - !jenerai .-eeting evidence of other anticompetitive conduct, it seems lilcely that in the near future reciprocity will be made the sole target of a govern ment antitrust suit. This discussion included consideration of the* recent decision by the United States Suoreme Court upholding the FTC ruling against the acquisition by Consolidated Foods Corpcc ation of Gentry, Inc. Other merger cases discussed included the G..". Diese' locomotive case; the General Dynamics Corporation case, the Ingersoll Rand Company case, and the Reynolds Tobacco Coapany-Penici: & Ford, Ltd. case. ' 8. The Report of Funds was rresented by .A. Schuman, Treasurer, and is attached to these minutes. 9. It was moved by S.J. Peele, Jr., that the reading of minutes of the last meeting be omitted - seconded by Z.L. Alexander - so voted. 10. The Committee Reports as made by their respective chairmen are attached to these minutes. J.P. Wronslci gave the report for the Fibre Testing Committee as its chairman, I. Barnett, could not attend this meeting. . 11. President Brown welcomed J.L. KitcheH as a representative of British Belting Si Asbestos, Ltd., stating that wevcre greatly pleased that he would be in regular attendance at our meetings. 12. President Drown announced that our next meeting would be held on the 7th and 8th of October, (arrival on the 6th) and tentative location was Hotel llershey, Kershey, Penna. Subsequent to the meet ing, it was found that the Iiotel Hershey could not accommodate our meeting on those particular dates, and it has been decided to hold the October meeting at "The INN", Buck Hill Falls, Tenna., October 6-8th. The IIHl is a famous hostelry delightfully located in the scenic Pocono fountains. It should be an ideal time of year to be . there, with autumn foliage at its height. Located 100 miles from either New Yorlc or Philadelphia, it nay be reached by Erie-Ladc awanna train to Cresco (3 miles to INN). Limousine meets all trains. By air there is commercial service to Scranton-Wilkes Darre or Allen town- Bet hie hem-Easton Airports. Private or chartered planes may land at Mount Pocono Airport. Cy car from New York cr Philadelphia is a three hour drive over excellent roads. The INN ODerates on the Amer ican Plan, and the daily rates, including all neals, is Double Room $19-521 per person; Single Room $20-$22 per person; single occupancy of cbuble room $25 per person. SO -- MARK YOUR CALENDAR - 'The INN'*. Buck Hill Falls. Pa., October 6th to 8th-----and brine your WIFE! 13. President Brown paid tribute to A.J. Scanlan, Treasurer of the Institute in 1953 and 1954, anclj/ice President in 1959-1960, who passed away on February 13, 1969. President Brown stated that he had sent a letter of sympathy to Mrs. Scanlan at direction of the Board of Governors of the Institute and had received a nice letter from her in reply. He then asked the members to observe a moment of silence in memory of "Ank" Scanlan. 10/93 001598 C003337 Minutes - General Meeting - continued; -7- 14. President 3rown reported that "Jack" Bettes, of Raybesfcoj- most kesnly, His man7 friends in the Institute wish him a speedy return t.*> .complete good health. ` 15. The meeting then adjourned for luncheon, to which the wives had been invited, and it proved a most enjoyable affair. 16.. Adjournment of the meeting followed luncheon. LAQ-WV 10/93 001599