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P1 e a s 9 find attached / ccoy(ies) cf minutes of the VT* 107 meetino zf the Quecec Asoest os hi nine Association, held cn
Mcndcy, Ncvsncer 25th, 1355, ct the Chateau frcntenac, Cuec9c
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MINUTES or THE 10? MEETING Of THE
OUE9EC ASBESTOS MININC ASSOCIATION HELD ON MONOAY, NOVEMBER 25th, 1963,
AT THE CHATEAU EnONTEMAC, CUESCC CITY
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Messrs. W. y. Ought red ' K. w* Linde11
R. s* Coleman
J. A. R. 1 r. rf*t
Mai n Merrill Smith
I.C. Cenpdell Y. Couture R. Codds-Hebron
J.O. Eby W.H. foster J.fi.M. Hutchescn L- Piuze
0. Poirier h. Prue - P.H. -Riordcn . E. fa tier Cao. R.ccir.ecn 1. Sacourin Paul-A. Tilt22-.
The President^sf the Association chaired the meeting. Minutes cF of the meetings of July CCth, Sectencer TSth and gist, 1365, -er? epproveb as suormitted by the Secretary.
The President then called cn the Cr.zirr.er. of the various stanting ccnni11 e9s.
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City, at -h 1 ch. Meiers. t'cobrncffe anc finer from Cities, Cr. P.E.
Auger end J.?. Eclouc cf the Cueoec Cecsrtner.t of NetursI Resources
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work in progress under the direction, of out-comi ttees i
1. nitration cf asbestoj-caitient-iiiics mixes - fo 11cwing visit cf rpraaantative of lubject ub-ccrmi 11 b b to Ottawa, it uai agreed that
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the ffinercl ProcasainQ Division would carry out a limited proliminery program to define the filtration problem more preciaoly.
2. Product handling - It was pointed out that the .Manchester Line was aoout to Inaugurate a new container ahio service, Mention was made of the increasing use and wide acceptance of containers In ship ments to Loncon and ether Eritiah porta. Sane minor difficulty,
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however, hea teen encountered with containers at the pert cf ThreeRivers, due to objections from the stevedores.
There seems also to be increasing requests frem U.S.A. for uni tired loeda with coverings or strapping to prevent shifting within the railroed cars. A proposal was made to hold a aub-connittee meeting shortly, at wr.ich attendance should be enlarged tj include members of the Traffic Committee, etc.
2. Fibre Strength Unit - It wes stated that the sub-cc.m.mi ttee had submitted an interim report at the last Technics! Committee meeting, tut that the recent had teen left in ateyer.ee pencing s consensus cf opinion among ccmmittss representatives.
Concern!no. the recuest for a review cf the test procedures end for s seccnd F.S.LI. Round Robin by the Uniform Classification r.d Grading Committee it uss deem.ee advisable to es< the latter whether the results
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A. Megnetic Rating - Sines the varicticr.3 cn the ru.it mTM. F2, r, **1 * r C ft - u * warn blamed upon the eperstora, it was agrsed that using the ssmo cceratcr end stancard at each laboratory would solved tha erotism and indicati whether or not tha proesdurs, as written, la sati ifactary.
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5. R1 sc*-lleneous - In his review o.' the work presently being don* in Ottawa, the Chairman reported that a request had been made to the flinerai Processing Oivision of the Kines Branch to prsaent a lecture at the next meeting of th* Technical Committee (to be held in Ottawa) cn th* eubjecti. cf i
e) Cotimiring design cf exoerir.ents. b) 2sta potontiai meesuromonta.
Jcnns-X-anvilie research center has indicated its willingness to carry cut statistical analyses for tho Q.A.fl.A. at a fee which would cover ths costs involved.
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The report cf the' Chairman can be summarized as fellows:
1. Sherbrooke Lcbcratory - Ths Di rectcr has been h v I r. ^ *> -mc uhcli 2 I n keeping personnel since the beginning cf the year,' but after five changes it appears that he has found a permanent junior technician, as of lata October.
A revised pries list fer Sherorccke lab rratory tests by special re quest from oember-ccmpsniss has been ap moved by the Coccitiae, .
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2. 1959 Sudget - Th e Chairmen c ommented briefly on his proposed bu get for 1959 as par copy given toaach director : detai1s esn be fo siso in the euc'get estimates of the As aocia tion attached ts aubjeo minutes.
2. Randosi 0.5. Production Serpling - A refi r.emor.t of the testing p cadurBS has been- agreed upon. From nca on the fibre inspector wii issue a report to menser-conpenise every 3 menths, shewing a comps risen between 0.5.maximum, Highest Test an Carload Shipping, Avers Test on Carlced Shipping, Highest r.zneem C. S. Production Test (by Inspector), end the Average Senppn C.S. Pro duction Test.
4. New Fibre Classification Test the need for research in better bas This has been a long standing probi
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A masting of the Committee wes held on November tha 12th,. Thars w also e meeting on November the 15th with the safety director, hr,hontgom.Bry, to diicuss general safety probiams in tho industry.
Thert mss to fca r.ora and mere arbitration cast merely on tachni points and lnterprrtstic" of the labour agraomenti.
1. Labour Negotiations - Ih8 Union hex not submitted its de_
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r ber the 1st. At one of the companies, eoilicitation is being con-
ductsd by a rival union and a vote to determine actual representa tion will be taken in December before Officers of the Department
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2. Mininun -ege Act - The meeting was informed that the Minister cf
Labour intended to process an amendment to the Minimum 'i'age Act
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by the Act after one year cf continuous service. Vacation pay to be
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2. Pneumoconiosis Claims - Counsel was esked to explain the nsen.j-
nics cf processing a pneumoconiosis claim. Counsel was glad to have
the eppertu nity cf discussing a: lenooh the prcceoure involved stated thet af ta r comp la ring ano filing f"c c S. ' 2 the case
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nearing cf parties concerned. In the opinion pf Counsel, timr may
have corns to call for a enow-down in a typical case where the company
concerned and its doctor wisn to object very strongly, 5uoh an
eppaal wcuid be made to the -erknen'a Compenaaticn Beard in Due'cec,
' to-whictvrecourse nuat'ba had. It wes also enpnesi rstr thet :preasure-'wv
ahculd,fca brought cn the Government to obtain better employer roprs--
santation cn the L'crkmun's Compensation Board. It um also itretsed
that thora could possibly be greater coilaboratir.g fcetwaen ths Asbes
tos clinic end the Thstford Mine* clinic.
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Ro solved thet the allocation of costs of the Thetfo:d nine 3 Ro sc'ja Station Curing 1S69 be cralculated on the following besi s
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r a a c 'j a bui ibi ng and aquipmert of Thstfcrd "ines to tha Department cf
Natural Ra sou rcaa waa left with fir. I.C. Campbell and Counaal fcr s:
proval o f tha Diractors at tha next meeting.
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The Chairmen reported that at a meeting of his committee held on November itth, consideration had been given to employing the Arctic Line for the carriage of asbestos to Continent for the year 1969. This has been brought about by the unsatisfactory aervic9 from the Canadian Continental conference during 1963. It uias anticipated that this could be arranged at no increase in cost over 1963 rates. He requested approval in principle to negotiate such an arrangement. ^Provided the approval of Lake Asbestos, it was agreed thet such___ negotiations could be undertaken.
Lr.CISLATICN A NO TAXATION COWWITTCC
In the absence of the Chairmen, the Ceneral T.anager reported on the recent chances "Th feaeral Income Tax Legislation, indicating that with reference to the Carter neport, the Sinister of finance had stated that a craft bill would in Cue ccurse be placed before the House, the Provincial hinisters and the public'for study and 'dis -- cussicn.
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spending bn its P.R. Program. At tha last meeting of the Committee held cn November lath, tha Chairman submitted an alternative arran gement in an ettanpt to lower the cost. Eriefly tho proposal recommends that Mr. Cossip ba hired by tha Association as a full time employee, reporting to the Caneral Manager, thus devoting 100^ of hii time to O.A.M.A. affairs. The immediate advantage is an estimated saving of approximately S15,QCQ. to S23,QCC. a year. Tha roccmmandation af tha committee was left with the Directors till next meeting.. / for review and decision.
The P.R. Committee of the Mining Association of Canada is finally functionning end preparing in collaboration with other mining essocietions e somewhat broadened program to furrner the public i.mege of the industry.
INSTITUTE or OCCUPATION AND uNVIRGNMONTAL -CALT'h CCMWITTli
Som9 of the recent activities cr* the Institute were summarired by the
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a) A nesotneliema Registry Conference was held in U.o.A. late Sep tember under the chairmanship of. Crs. Selik'pff end Korin, with representation from I'.S.A., Conaca, couth Africa and Japan, to discuss the organization and purpose of a neticnal registry of mesothelioma.
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h) A mesothelioma Reg try Conference was held in ."entree! cn .VovamUhe. .r i1oCtMn. , rctn., 1555, under the Chairmanship cf Cr. Rciiand Cuy to discuss .the Canecian s L tus ti on..;->I n.-. Canada>.;-.the-. mein : problem istcgetth.9 cases nctifiad.
c) A study cf Asbestos Iniuleticn 'Workers in Ontario has bean ur.eertaksn by Ors. Cowla end Sutherland of Toronto.
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d) Or. Gao. U. Wright presently visiting asbestos research centers in South Africa, Trance,. Woit Carmany end Italy. No doubt he will 9ubmit a report on his return.
o) A paper on Tarrugincua bodies given by a Trench Ccctor at a recent ^Conference cf the U.S. Industrial Hygiene foundation end Mellon Inatitute in Pittsburg would indicate thet no ferruginous bodies in thet 'United study he has Just made would heve any rapprochement with chrysotile fibre. The author shows that ferruginous bodies are formed from en excess iron in the blood without the assistance of any foreign (fibril) agent.
Grief comments were also made on those already known articles which recently appeared in the Wall Street Journal and the New Yorker.
f) Surcharge for medical research"1 t-is -sugges ted.'a proper-mode to
cope, equitably for ell, with the increasing charges motivated by
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meeting seemed in order in this connection, a meeting cf the Direc
tors of the Association (date suggested December 19th) where the
whole situation could be discussed, said meeting to take place in
the ebsence cf Counsel to which objection was taken (v.g. by Direc-
. ter recr9senting, Csnaci en. Jchns-Menvilla^CoLimi ted) _i t being
reminded that the policy of the Association-wt3 not to meet in the
absence of Counsel (which line cf policy wes confirm.ad).
In view of the concern expressed ebcut the C.J.tt. proposal to print a warning on every bag of esbeates, the meeting woe advind that this proposal had not been mace affective aa yst by said com pany, Hcwevor, it feels very vulnerable on the U.S. morkst,
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The Institute of Occupational end ;Environnsntal Health rncc~r.cr.dt thet the giving cf asbestos fibre specimens and asbestos for model ling and moulding (v.g. lessons in sculpture) in school clrsscs bo discontinued. This setter is to bo rsviowod et the next meeting.
CWIPO^CVTAL CONTROL .s'.'..- '
In e written report the Chelrmen reviewed the various projects under study by his committee. Copies of this report, which outlines key *.. paints end status of tha several projects, were distributed to mem bers in attendance.
Proposed eir pollution legislation - The Committee has studied the
working document concerning legislation proposed by the Cuecec De
partment of Health. The Committee considers this document to be
of extreme importance to the Asbestos Industry end made aeverai..
conmonts which are to be incorporated in a letter to be prepared by
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The Treeaurer tabled the proposed bungat of ths Association and the Institute for 1559. Explanations of the oatimetsa under the various headings wars given, following which approval, was sollicitad from- ' ths Dirsctcra.
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Ccunssl's accounts sere submitted by the Traeaurnf for tha approval of the Directors. These accounts were approved for payment ea f allows:
e) Atcount with O.A.ffl.A. for the ysers 1956-67 -$50,000.CO
b) Account with I.Q.E.H. for the period fromJenuary lat, 1357 to Cctcoer lat, 1S6S - $43,500.00
ra. It was suggested thet future statements by .Counsel be submitted et ,
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s) A request by Hycro-Cuobec for authorization to use research infor-
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raetion on asbestos in concrete,as conteined in the papers of Cillis
i! endCollins, uss greeted by the Directors.
C b) A request for financial assistance towards the Centre for Cast
Asian Studies at T.d Ci 11. Universi ty ues'-:turnedt downed esvbeing.'. beyond:;-.'r,J,;rr r "i* t/."';?. 5.rT- I
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c) Tha Directors decided that tha Association had dens its chare in
the erection of Leva! Geological Carden end, to e further request from
Level for financial assistance, it could net et this tir.e give favc-
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A rsvisod schedule of roaervations for fu ture aoeci al. r.tetingi of. the Aatociaticn was lubnittsd by tha Csnarel managef and given gomrsl
approval, a* follows i
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Bellevue Biltmore, Clearva ter, Hi Seigniory Club, Quebec
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Caribbean Beach Club, Antigua
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Santa Barbara Biltmore, Cal.
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hr. r.p. Smith ss elected Chairman of a Nominating Ccrmitiee end
will be assisted by two (2) ether directors of his can cheesing.
This committee ta propose e slate of officers 2nd committee chair
men for 1555 at the annuel meeting of the Association in January
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