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AS33ST0S TEXTftLE INSTITUTE
Minutes - GENERAL MEETINGV^Beifruary I)., 1971
The RED CARPET INN, Charlotte, N.C.
In attendance:
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AMERICAN ASBESTOS TEXTILE CORP. TTvTI Christenbury" Wm. Maaskant H.H. Walter
ASBESTOS CORPORATION L1HITKTT G.P.A. Brink P.E. Leclerc
GARLOCK INC. A. Kuzmuk W.F. Brainerd
BELL ASBESTOS HINES LIMITED Wei. J. W. Smith Walter II. Smith
JOHNS-MANYILLE CORPORATION N.D. BROWN E.A. SCHUMAN K.A. Roberts
C.L. Sheckler
H.K. PORTER COMPANY,INC.
L. E. Moody
D.E. Childers
J.W. Echerd
E.C. Bratt
J.D. McCluer (Ret'd)
Nicole t INDUSTRIES , INC.
Geo. Griswold, Jr.
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E.W. Russell
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rayb:ESTOS-MANHATTAN,INC.
C.E. Sti iefken
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.Turner-.bros.asbestos W.M. Deokman
^--.. H.J. Corson , /* ..-- ..
co..Ltd.
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UNIROYAL,ING. ,'E.A. norris
R.C. Hunt H.H. Willingham Dr.J.H. Wolfsie S.J. Peels, Jr. ' T.H, Newby
L.F. Dieringer (Guest)
!I ; : CADWALADSR , WICKERSIiAM H TAFT
J.W. Hawkins .
Dr.J.L. Goodman" J.W. Frampton (Guest)
ASBESTOS TEXTILE INSTITUTE H.E.Sunbury (Secretary)
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L. President ''Moody, .-called the meeting to order at 1 :L)_5 P.I1.
2. Those present were asked to stand and identify themselves and to give theircompany affiliation.
3. President Moody asked that a moment of prayer be observed in memory of Ralph B. Smith who passed away on January 21,1971 at his home in North Charleston,S.C, Mr. Smith had attended A.T.I. meetings for about twenty years, and served as Chairman of our Air Hygiene & Mfg. Committee during I960 and 1961.
1|. The minutes of the last meeting were presented for reading. On motion by Mr.B.A. Schuman,seconded by Hr. K.A. Roberts, it was voted to omit the reading of same.
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ASBESTOS TEXTILE INSTITUTE
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Minutes - GENERAL MEETING - February 1+, 1971
The RED CARPET INN, Charlotte, N.C.
In attendance:
AMERICAN ASBESTOS TEXTILE CORP. ~J. W Chri stenbury Wm. Maaskant H.H. Walter
ASBESTOS CORPORATION LIMITED
G.F.A. Brink P.E. Leclerc
GARLOCK INC. A. Kuzmuk W.F. Brainerd
JOHNS-MANYILL2 COR FORATION N.D. BROWN E.A. SCHUMAN K.A. Roberts C.L. Sheckler
H.K. PORTER COMPANY,INC
L Moody
D.E. Childers
J.W. Echerd
E.C. Bratt
J.D. McCluer (Ret'd)
Nicolet INDUSTRIES,INC.
Geo. Griswold,Jr.
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E.W. Russell
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BELL ASBESTOS MINES LIMITED Wm.J.W. Smith Walter H. Smith
I1 LAKE ASBESTOS OF QUEBEC,LTD, C.E. St>f iefken .TURNER'BROS.ASBESTOS CO.,Ltd. W.M. Deokman H.J. Corson
' UN I ROYAL, INC./E.A. norris ' R.C. Hunt ' H.H. Willingham
Dr.J.Ii. Wolfsie S.J. Peele,Jr. T.H, Newby L.F. Dieringer (Guest)
rayb:3ST0S -MAINE ATTAN , INC
M.Cl. Scowcroft J.W. Hawkins Dr. J L. Goodman^ J.W. Frampton (Guest)
CADWALAD5R , WICKERSKAM h TAFT II, C, Roosevelt (Legal Counsel
ASBESTOS TEXTILE INSTITUTE II. E.Sunbury (Secretary)
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/SKHHHC- Minutes ttiKrK-* \\ // L. President''Moody.-called the meeting to order at l:Lt-5 P.M*
2. Those present were asked to stand and identify themselves and to give their company affiliation.
3. President Moody asked that a moment of prayer be observed in memory of Ralph 5. Smith who passed away on January 21,1971 at his home in North Charleston,S.C, Kr. Smith had attended A.T.I, meetings for about twenty years, and served as Chairman of our Air Hygiene 6: Mfg. Committee during I960 and 1961.
I4., The minutes of the last meeting were presented for reading. On motion by Mr.E.A. Schuman,seconded by Hr. K.A. Roberts, it was voted to omit the reading of same.
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5. Treasurer Kuzrauk presented the Financial Report. Dr. J.II. Wolf3ie
moved that it be accepted, motion seconded by Hr. P.S. Leclerc,
and so voted unanimously. A copy of the report is attached to these
minutes.
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6* President Moody referred to "The History of the Asbestos Textile Industry in the United States1' by J.A. Bettes,Jr., now appearing in installments in tho ASBESTOS Magazine, and said that the Secretary had been instructed to write Mr. Bettes a letter of commendation on behalf of the Institute and its members. Hr. Bettes, an active member of the Institute for approximately twenty-four years, served as president of ATI in -1937 and 1958* Upon retirement from RaybestosHanhattan several years ago Mr. 3ottes began to collect the infor mation for his "History of the ..Asbestos Textile Industry in the USA" and it has required countless hours and voluminous correspondence to prepare the "History" for publication. The Institute appreciates the fine contribution that Hr. Bettes has made'to the asbestos textile industry, and congratulates him on doing an exceptionally fine job! AI30, we think that the ASBESTOSiHa'gazine is to be commended for making the "History" available to'its readers! Mr. Bettes address is:- John A. Bettes,Jr.,3100 South Ocean Blvd.,#6l8 ?xx Delray Beach,Fla. 33UUl- and we'are sure that he would welcome comments from readers of the "History".;
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7. President Moody announced the election of Mr. K.D. Brown to' the Board of Governors, replacing -Hr.- ,A. Sc hum an as John3-Manville1 s representative; and the election to the Board of Hr. J.W. Christenbury replacing Mr. J.L. Rainey.as"the representative for American Asbestos Textile Corporation. Mr. Schuman resigned because he no longer has responsibility for asbestos textilesMr. Rainey's resignation was necessary due to increased corporate responsibilities since hix he was elected President of his company in June of 1970.
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8. The Legal Counsel Report-wa3 given by Attorney II. C. Roosevelt, of Cadwalader, ,.VTiekersham <k Taft, New York,N.Y. A resume' of his remarks is attached to.these minutes.
Ii )' 9. The Fibre. Producerja Report was given by Mr. Wm.J.W. Smith, Director, Vice1 President & General Sales Manager of BELL ASBESTOS MINES,LTD. Mr.-.Smith began his remarks by saying that it was the opinion of the' producers that the' fibre situation should be exposed as frequently as A.T.I. meets, and proceeded to discuss the situation relative to various grades.
Group 7 fibers in the shorter classifications are fairly ample, but the longer Group 7's are in tighter supply. Grou-p 6 fibers (Used in Brake Linings,etc.) very specific shortage. Group 5 fibers - Premuim classifications are "tight". Group 1+ fibers (Used in asbestos-cement products)fairly well in balanc Group 3 fibers - (Used in textiles) A year ago a shortage existed, but now the high magnetic iron fibers as produced in i^juebec mines are in good supply. By contrast the low magnetic iron Group 3 fibers, as- produced by Cassiar on the West Coast of Canada, continue to be critically short. The unusually severe winter has crippled production of Cassiar - situation may improve somewhat by June, but supply will still be short. In regard to'Rhodesian fiber the embargo has been most offective both in tho U.S.A. and in Canada. It is a critical situation for
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asbestos textile manufacturers in the U.S.A. because there is no alternative low iron fiber except Casslar. The U.3. Government has a sizeable stockpile of low iron fiber but apparently is not willing to release any of it.
! 10. Committee reports were giv ,n by the respective chairmen
Air Hygiene Z: Kfg. Committee - H.M. Willingham, Chn. Technical Committee - J.l'. Hawkins (Acting chairman) Asbestos Advisory Committee - E.A. Morris, Chm. Fiber Testing Committee - D.E..Childers
Their reports are attached to these minutes.
11, Dr. J.L. Goodman, North Charleston,3.C., associated with Raybestos-Manhattan,Inc., speaking as a member of The A.T.I. Environmental Health Committee, reported that he had attended a seminar on Asoestosis, arranged by Dr.Irving J. Selikoff, that was held at the Kt Sinai School of.'Medicine, New York City, on June 15-lG, 1970. Dr. Goodman 3aid he was'quite surprised to note a goodly number of representatives of Labor in attendance.
Dr. Selikoffs staff members presented the program, which turned out to be a diatribe against industry. At opening of the' meeting it was announced that spraying of steel framework in new buildings(with asbestos fibre) had been discontinued in New York State. Dr. Goodman was critical, of Dr. Selikoffs presentation and accusations against industry. -'When questions were directed to various speakers Dr.Selikoff invariably spoke up to answer the question - sometimes quite rudely, .
The second day of the Seminar was devoted to mesothelioma, which Dr. Goodman stated was a very controveriial and debatable form of cancor (as to cause) . He; does not agree with many of Dr. Selikoff's statements and/or conclusions on this subject.
Dr. Goodman-feels tha.t-.Dr,' Selikoff is a "dangerous" man and the asbestos" industry is going to have to learn how to combat his tactics,' /We cannot and should not take Dr. Selikoff lightly as he has facilities for :getting"facts,but gets away with half-trutk3, and the only, way he can be backed down is being faced with true facts.
When asked if something could be done thru the American Medical Association(to..control' Dr. Selikoff) Dr. Goodman expressed doubt. Said there was--a?."grievance committee of the AKA but it was very difficult to get this committee to act. Thought that perhaps pressure on the Mt. Sinai School of Medicine might, be effective.
In regard to mesothelioma Hr. win.J.W. Smith asked if Dr. Solikof differentiated between Crocidolite and Chrysotile fibre. Dr. Goodman said that Dr. Selikoff inferred that Chrysotile was suspect as well as Crocidolite.
Following Dr. Goodman's comments Mr. C.L. Sheckler, Chairman of A.T.I.'s rjivironmental Health Committee, said that Dr. Selikoff was going to be around indefinitely and we might as well resign -ourselves to that fact, even though Selikoff might be prone ' . to deal with "half-truths".
Mr.- Sheckler commented on the excellent promotional type Snglis film entitled "WIIY ASBESTOS" shown to the members the previous evening, saying that there is now an Asbestos Information Association of North America. Members of this now association are some of the leading manufacturers of asbestos products in the U.S.A., but no further information wa3 given out by Mr. Sheckler.
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Mr. Sheckler then discussed the new Federal "Occupational Safety &
Health Act of 1970" (PL91-596) that becomes effective on April 28,1971,
saying that Industry and its customers can well face new exposure
to penalties after the law becomes effective. Outlined some of the
penalties, an.; discussed standards under the new law. For example,
"the present standard for noise) is 90 jsLaih decibels maximum, and he
doubts that any textile plant son show such a low noise level!
Under the new law government inspectors will have free access
to plants and records. An employee or employee group may request
government to make inspection at any time. The employer is required
to post conditions that exceed standards. All penalties are to be
final unless contested within 15 days.
In regard to medical and health research Mr. Shockler said
that a "National Institute of Safety & Health" haxyjnrxxxlxxkuAxx
has been (or will be) set up within the framework of the Health,
Education and Welfare Department. X Dr. Cralley's group will be
part of it.
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Concluding his remarks Mr. Shockler said!that warning labels
on products were now voluntary but probably will become mandatory
at some future date. Thinks that our Industry^must give serious
consideration to the use of warning labels on asbestos products.
Mentioned that Common Lav; product suits are proliferating in the
Thermal Insulation Industry. Date.that label U3e began could
indicate whether a manufacturer had been negligent in case of a"
law suit.
12. Locations for meetings in 1971 were announced:
June 9-10, 1971 - Cherry Hill Inn, Cherry Hill, N.J. October 6-8, 1971 .'-.-Savannah Inn -cc Country Club, Savannah,Ga.
The June meeting schedule will call for arrival Wednesday afternoon
or evening, committee meetings Thursday morning, and General Meeting
from 2:00 to Ll:00 P.M. Thursday afternoon. This shortened program
will en'ab'le most. attendees-to .be back at their respective offices
on Friday morning.
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The October-meeting is'our ANNUAL MEETING to which company officials
and members', wives are;specially invited. The meeting schedule in
October will*-suggest.- arrival on Wednesday afternoon or evening, the
committee meetings-will be on Thursday, and General Meeting on
Friday morning. --
13. There being no further business the meeting adjourned at 3:50 P.K.
Respectfully submitted.
H.i. Sunbury Secretary
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AS3EST0S TEXTILE INSTITUTE
Minutes - GENERAL MEETING - PebruEry I4., 1971
The RED CARPET INN , Charlotte, N.C.
In attendance:
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PLAINTIFF'S EXHIBIT
AMERICA:: ASBESTOS TEXTILE CORP. J.W. Cnristenbury Wm. Maaskant H.H. Walter
ASBESTOS CORPORAT^^^B^^^^
G.F.A. Drink P.E, Leclerc
GARLOCK INC. A. Kuzmuk W.P. Brainerd
JOHN S -MANVILLE COR PORA? I ON N.D. BROWN E.A. SCIIUMAK K.A. Roberts C. L, Sheckler
H.K. PORTER COMPANY,INC.
La hi* hooay
D. E. Childers
J.W. Echerd
E. C. Bratt
J.D. HcCluer (Ret'd)
Nicolet INDUSTRIES , INC.
Geo. Griswold,Jr.
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E.W. Russell
BELL ASBESTOS MINES LIMITED Wm.J.W. Smith Walter II. Smith
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lake asbestos op Quebec,ltd. C.E. Stiefken
I -BURNER-BROS.ASBESTOS CO.,Ltd. W.M. Deokman __ .. H.J. Corson
' UiriROYAL, INC. E.A. norris R.C. Hunt
y.''A' H.H. Willingham Dr.J.Ii. Wolfsie S.J. Peele,Jr. T.H. Newby L.P. Dieringer (Guest)
RAYBSSTOS-KAN-ATTAN,INC.
CADWALADER, V/ICKZRSKAM h TAFT
M.^. Scowcroft
H.C. Roosevelt (Legal Counsel
J.W. Hawkins .
Dr.J.L. Goodman'
ASBESTOS TEXTILE INSTITUTE
J.W. Prampton (Guest)
H.E.Sunbury (Secretary)
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L. President''Moody .-called the meeting to order at 1:^5 ?.K.
2. TU<|^^^pesent were asked to stand and identify themselves and to gil|pl|ieir company affiliation.
3. President Moody asked that a moment of prayer be observed in memory of Ralph 5. Smith who passed away on January 21,1971 at his home in North Charleston,S.C. Kr. Smith had attended A.T.I. meetings for about twenty years, and served as Chairman of our Air Hygiene Mfg. Committee during I960 and 1961.
k.. The minutes of the last mooting were presented for reading. On motion by Mr.E.A. Schuman,seconded by Hr. K.A. Roberts, it was voted to omit the reading of Bame.
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5. Treasurer Kuznuk presented the Financill Report. Dr. J.H. V.'olfsie moved that it be accepted, motion seconded by Mr. P.E. Leclerc, and so voted unanimously. A copy of the report is attached to these
minutes.
6. President Moody referred to "The History of the Asbestos Textile Industry in the United States" by J.A. i3ettcs,Jr., now appearing in installments in tho ASBESTOS Magazine, and said that the Secretary had been instructed to write Mr. bettes a letter of commendation on behalf of the Institute and its members. Hr. Bettes, an active member of the Institute for approximately twenty-four years, served as president of ATI in 1937 and 1958. Upon retirement from :<aybestosHanhattan several years ago Mr. 3ottes bogan to collect the infor mation for his "History of the .Asbestos Textile Industry in the USA" and it has required countless hours and voluminous correspondence to prepare the "History" for publication. The Institute appreciates the fine contribution that Mr. Bettes has made'to the asbestos textile industry, and congratulates him on doing an exceptionally fine job I AI30, we think that the ASBESTOS-Magazine is to be
commonaed for making the "History" available to'its readersl Mr. Bettes address is:- John A. Bettes,Jr.,3100 South Ocean Blvd.,#6l ?xx Delray Beach,Fla. 334-4i|. and we'are sure that he would welcome comments from readers of the "History". .
7. President Moody announced the election of Mr. K.D. Brown to the Board of Governors, replacing Hr." .A. Schuman as Johns-Manville * representative; and the election to the Board of Mr. J.W. Christenbur replacing Mr. J.L. Rainey", as "the representative for American Asbestos Textile Corporation. Mr. Schuman resigned because he no longer has responsibility for asbestos textiles. Mr. Rainey's resignation was necessary due to increased corporate responsibilities since Ht-s he was elected President of his company in June of 1970.
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8. The Legal Counsel Report-wa3 given by Attorney H.C. Roosevelt, of Cadwalader, ..Vfickersham t:t Taft", New York,N.Y. A resume* of his remarks is attached to these minutes.
? | i) 9. The Fibre. Producer's Report was given by Mr. Wra.J.W. Smith, Director, Vice President & -General Sales Manager of BELL ASBESTOS MINES,LTD. Mr.-.Smith began his remarks by saying that it was the opiniqigiiC; the" producers that the fibre situation should be exposed as frtdjBibly as A.T.I* meets, and proceeded to discuss the situation
relatfpipb various grades.
Group 7 fibers in the shorter classifications are fairly ample, but the longer Group 7's are in tighter supply. Group 6 fibers (Used in Brake Linings,etc.) very specific shortage. Group 5 fibers - Premuim classifications are "tight".
Group 4. fibers (Used in asbestos-cement products)fairly well in balar. Group 3 fibers - (Used in textiles) A year ago a shortage existed, but now the high magnetic iron fibers as produced in (Quebec mines are in good supply. By contrast the low magnetic iron Group 3 fibers, as- produced by Cassiar on the West Coast of Canada, continue to be critically short. The unusually severe winter has crippled procuctior of Cassiar - situation may improve somewhat by June, but supply will still be short. In regard to Rhodesian fiber the embargo has been most effective both in tho U.S.A. and in Canada. It is a critical situation for
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asbestos textile nanufacturers in the U.S.A. because there is no alternative low iron fiber except Cassiar. The C.3. Government has a sizeable stockpile of low iron fiber but apparently is not willing to release any of it.
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10. Committee reports were giv ,n by the respective chairmen
Air Hygiene i: Mfg. Committee - H.M. Willingham, Chm. Technical Committee - .T.\*. Hawkins (Acting chairman) Asbestos Advisory Committee - E.A. Morris, Chm. Fiber Testing. Committee - D.E. .Childers
Their reports are attached to these minutes.
11. Dr. J.L. Goodman, worth Charleston,2.C., associated with Raybestos-'Manhattan,Inc., speaking as a member of The A.T.I. Environmental Health Committee, reported that he had attended a seminar on Asbestosis, arranged by Dr. Irving J. Selikoff, that wa3 held at the Kt. Sinai School of.'Medicine, iiew Yortc City, on June 15-18, 1970. Dr. Goodman 3aid he was quite surprised to note a goodly number of representatives of Labor in attendance.
Dr. Selikoffs staff manoers presented the program, which" turned out to bo a diatribe against industry. At o jening of the' meeting it was announced that spraying of steel framework in new buildings(with asbestos fiore) had been discontinued in new York State. Dr. Goodman was critical of Dr. Selikoffs presentation and accusations against industry. 'When questions were directed to various speakers Dr.Selikoff invariably spoke up to answer the question - sometimes quite rudely. .
The second day of the Seminar was devoted to mesothelioma, which Dr. Goodman stated was a very controveriial and debatable form of cancor (as to cause). He'docs not agree with many of Dr. Selikoffs statements and/or conclusions on this subject.
Dr. Goodman feels that-Dr.' Selikoff is a "dangerous" man and the asbestos' industry is -going to have to learn how to combat his tactics.'/We cannot and should not take Dr. Selikoff lightly as he has facilities for getting"factsy,but gets away with half-trutk3, and the only, way he con be backed down is being faced with true facts.
When asked if something could be done thru the American Medical Association(to..contror Dr. Selikoff) Lr. Goodman expressed doubt. Said thagfeMas--^.grievance committee of the AilA but it was very diffict||^Bfc get this committee to act. Thought that perhaps pressure on the3^^gKnai School of Medicine might be effective.
TBH8||gard to mesothelioma Mr. Wm.J.W. Smith asked if Dr. Solikof differeitfisted between Crocidolite and Chrysotile fibre. Dr. Goodman
said that Dr. Selikoff inferred that Chrysotile was suspect as well as Crocidolite.
Following Dr. Goodman's comments Hr. C.L. Sheckler, Chairman of A.T.I.'s .-Jivironmental Health Committee, said that Dr. Selikoff was going to be around indefinitely and we might as woll resign ourselves to that fact, even though Selikoff might be prone ' to deal with "half-truths".
Mr.- Sheckler commented on the excellent promotional type Englia film entitled "WHY ASBESTOS" shown to the members the previous evening, saying that there is now an Asbestos Information Association of North America. Members of this now association are some of the leading manufacturers of asbestos products in the U.S.A., but no further information wa3 given out by Mr. Sheckler.
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Mr. Sheckler then discussed the new Federal "Occupational Safety &
Health Act of 1970" (PL91-p96) that becomes effective on April 23,1971,
saying that Industry and its customers can well face now exposure
to ponalties after the law becomes effective. Outlined somo of the
penalties'^ am. discussed standards under the new law. For example,
the present standard for noise; is 90 nEih decibels maximum, and he
doubts that any textile plant ^an show such a low noise level!
Under the new law government inspectors will have free access
to plants and records. An employee or employee group may request
government to make inspection at any time. Tho employer is required
to post conditions that exceed standards. All penalties are to be
final unless contested within lp days.
In regard to medical and health research Mr. cheekier said
that a "National Institute of Safety & Health" hax?inrxxxixxk)d:xx
has been (or will be) set up within the framework of the Health,
Education and Welfare Department. X Dr. Cralley's group will be
part of it.
it
Concluding his remarks Mr. Sheckler 3aidt that warning labels
on products were now voluntary but probably will become mandatory
at some future date. Thinks that our industryi^must give serious
consideration to the U3e of warning labels on asbestos products.
Mentioned that Common Lav; product suits are proliferating in the
Thermal Insulation Industry. Date.that label use began could --
indicate whether a manufacturer had been negligent in case of a'-
law suit.
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12. Locations for meetings in 1971 were announced:
June 9-10, 1971 - Cherry Hill Inn, Cherry Hill, N.J. October 6-8, 1971 / / "Savannah Inn -cc Country Club, Savannah,Ga.
The June meeting schedule will call for arrival Wednesday afternoon
or evening, committee meetings Thursday morning, and General Meeting
from 2:00 to k:00 ?.M. Thursday afternoon. This shortened program
will enable most.attendees-to be back at their respective offices
on Friday morning.
' "*
/1 The October meeting is our ANNUAL MEETING to which company officials and members', wives are;specially invited; The meeting schedule in October will.*'suggest.-arrival on Wednesday afternoon or evening, the committee meetings-will be on Thursday, and General Meeting on
further business the meeting adjourned at 3:50 P.K
Respectfully submitted.
H.n. Sunbury Secretary