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September Z7. 1971 Mr. E. Dri.slane Fric:ticm Materials Standards lnstitute, ~. 370 Lexin,um Awnue New York, ~ York 10017 .-.. Ill --,~.. ! 6 Q 1'1'1 .=0"..'. C"' ;z0z Dear Ed: I am retul'D.ini )'Om' draft aspy af the Jlim1tes of our mee'tini of the Asbestos Study Callm::i.uee without c:bqe. l think you have ccnrered the matters that weTe disOJSsed quite well. As .,-eed upon at that .et.ina, I alSo mclosin& a copy of the redenl prapasal for the missicm sta:Ddardl for ubesu.. Ycu will recall that the Dll!lllbers of the c:a.i.ttBe thcqht it well to u see this draft CDf1Y ewn tbculh ve JDt laDI tbat tbe federal sunciaTd.s ~ill be quite diffenmt. Ncaetbeless it is bei.ne mi tted far i.niomation purposes. Yau are to make c:cpies B disuibuu such to the me:mDers of the eCIIIIIittee. In addition I am enclosinJ a. copy of the c:a~~DBnts IDii suuesticm that were made rerard.ini 1:his initial ciraft by me AlA at a recent meetina that was held in Atlanta abom mid-August. Tnese CC~~~J~enu and suggestians were Ji.ven to the entire gTOup assembled and we were aclvised that they wculd be given consideration in the revised version, which ve have yet to see. Again, this is beinr supplied for infotmation purposes. F~r, I arreec1 to advise all the Calminee melllbers as 'tO what happened at our unofficial meeting "'itil SCIII! Dll!li)ers of the Illinois PcllutiCil Conttol Board held ill 01ic::aro on Septser 17. Since that meeting covered matters other than the ban on asbestos in brake lining, I will quote you fran portions of the minutes 1 have neeived regard:i.n& that sessicn. I would urge that you advise our c:cumittee members tl'ult this infonr.ation is to be considered extremely ccnfidi!ntial at this point, especially since the meeting was held in advance of the public hearings. PlAINTIFF'S ~ EXHIBIT :0 .0 4!1 l-11-~I.OD ,... PlAINTIFF'S EXHIBIT :0 ~ \..J V- OD\.90\ 3 - 2- 'Ihose present in OU.c:aro C'll Septaber 17 weTe Timcthy Harker, Administtative Assistant to the Illinois Pollution Control Board, and Walter Raaanok, also of the Illinois Polluticm Control Board an a part time basis. Representi.ZJr thelll fraa a tedmical standpoint was Dr. Colin Harwood, whca I believe was instrU111!11tal in 'Wl"itine a JTeat pon:ian af the pzuposeci rerul&ticm. He is fraa an Illinois Instimte of Tedmi.cal Research, I believe is the proper title. Representing our side was Dr. GeoTie Wriaht of St. Luke's Hospital in Cl.evelml, E. M. fezmer, W. P. Raines and Dr. S. Spell of J/M, aDd ll)'Self. lhe twobaur meetina was quite cordial and useful. Despite Harker's -sreat reluctance to schedule the .etinc, ad his suaesticm Cll1 Septemer 13 that it be ancelled, be proved. m be quite camnmi. cative and certainly did not evidence hostility. We leamed that public heari.np will be held in Illi.Dais em Wednesday, Ocmber 6, in Granite City at 9:30A.M. in tbe court house; an Friday, Oc:tober 15, in Clicago at the Field llklse\D at 10:00 A.M.; and Tuesday, October 19, in Waukeran at 10:00 A.M. at the public libruy. Harker indicatecl a preference that the asbestos industry, thrOUih the AI.A/HA. testify u a unit rather than each asbestos cmpany testifyiD& separately. Hubr iDdicat"eci a strq preference that the i.Ddustty present its testmxly at tbe Waukefm hearq rather thm at tbe OUc:aao beariDI 1h8y expect the Olicqo heari.n& to be "c:rcwded". It isuither necessuy DDr desirable to appear at mcre than one of the hearings TestiJialy should be Jiven verbally and in writing. Ten copies of the written versicm should be submitted to the Board in advance. We advisecl Harker that 11111 waulc! let hill knew which hearing we would present our tu~ at., 1llbo wauld testify for the industry, and the cumt of tD8 thn w wa1ld require. en the tter of the brake linin~ ban, this subject required su:prisingly brief discussion. Harker called it "a weak point in our refUlaticms". He ~1ied--thourh he did DOt say so--that it was inserted in order to rain publicity for the pTOpOsed regulatiCilS and hearinp. He said it would "stia,Jate disClSsian". Harker did szy that cme &U'tambile ~any had told hill that their coqJmy would be usin& cmly asbestos-free disc: brakes by 1975 and that the asbestos ban would thus not affect them. - 3- Dr. Harwood said that Gf and Olrysler had told him that they saw no way of elim:ina,;ing asbestos fTom brake blcc:ks or disc:s withcu,; seriously d.im:ini.shing the effec:tiveness of the bralces. Hariter seemed impressed by ~ and CC'I!III!!Jlted that the Board didn' t want to lcill mre people than it "saved'' by my such bm. We mentioned the Sendix studies beinr cau!uc'ted. fer the EPA relative to the emissians of moving vehicles. The Illinois people seem to know very little abounnat the Federal EPA is doiJli relative to asbestos emissiOn. standards and wbatthe Bendix test involvement is. Harker also mentioned that New York City is testina the air in subways and other closed in areas to see what the asbestos fiber level is there, presuubly bein& prcd.uc:ed fra11 vehicles. I believe that stmmarizes what transpired to a great enent at that meetina . In view of the time lim:itations for these hearings , ram the standpoint of rettina prepared., it would s - that the AIWNA will carry the ball for tbe entire ~ since I do DDt think that the IMSI Calmi.ttee an function with my realistic: data at this pain,;. 1his is a persanal opinion of mine and I 'WOUld appreciate any CCIIIII!nts ~me llliJht care to make reprdi.na such a position. In the munwhile, thnqh Jchns-Mmville, the AlA has testified at various city ad state beariDp an the ba -of asbestos iD spray c:oatina mel also testified in Washi.nrton in a wri.tt.en fom reaarc!i.Dc the hazardous nature of asbestos so I believe we have a fcmat which can be presented fra11 that JTOUP in Illinois and be efiec:tive. Scae of it will be written and in addition we will probably have people testify on the aspects other than the brake lining ban. I believe the portion on the brake li.nina ban will be limited to the public:atians which I submitted to each c:OIIIIIittee JDI!IIber at our first meeting. I beliew this concludes J11f report to you and. the items that I qTHd to take care of. If there are any other areas where I can be of help, please let me know. Very tl'Uly yours, ~ E. P. Stefl Attachments n"P.S. I have just been advised that the AlA/NA testimony will be presented FT"idav. 10/15. in Oric:a2o. Perhaos you would care to be present.