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OBJECTIVES: This mu a joint call with Raleigh Garcia and Elaor Mhaalar to discuss ------------------------------ OiaPyTggHFMha'B'PlMmiB OH tWlt Pydrnul IBS laal.--------------------------------- ---------
----------Kgsonsi-------The appolntn*rtt" WM originally uadaolth Hairy Walker ,-Chief Matallwgiaa-bub--
ha was 111. Host of tha discussion was with Marls Hughes who was tha chenist
----------Who evaluated Pydraul-1SS ahd btMI Tmrdnaglng Hrpun nauUuulug phosgene.chlorine tatta.
Haihsa was naturally defensive but aesaed to wan up considerably as tha call went on.
----------AsH Turned duf"h* dld~Vtry HttlT~to evaluate 188.--H* -ba**d swat-og-hta-oenalnaian* an-
hi* pravious work on A-200, a lltaratura survey, son* PC# articles, and probably scm input
--------- ffoB the Hbughton salasiaB (tltMUgTrtBlH.. 1 wwrcartnlnT.... As H turns out, Hughe* wa*--
deeply involved in the decision to move A-200 frou the Forge Plant. In about 1967 a
---------- worker vas' ra'iliaf badly ovarccu* WKE fiats WBll~WTirtlng in-a-restrlcted art* naar sens
leaking A-200. A* they explained the situation there was state doubt as to what actually
---- haroanod'is thay clalied that thOywafKSr could.BBt suwMrsnything and did nnt raaUsa-ha-
was beins ovarcoa* with fuaas until he got to the point where he could no longer breathe.
------ This euietESaa net sound Ilka A-2UU hit this mind 1 full lnsasflgntton by Hughes and------
his seonle In the laboratory. Hughes and on* of the technicians preceded to heat up A-200
--------- thsaselves eiidTEaa...inhaled aoua 6f thb VIpWS to wall for the grass- Hughaa claim he-
got vary restlass that night and that the other guy ended up sick for two days sad for this
---------- twiiontRiy threw out "K-2W.* USan TBW 'fff'UHriJMI S1IM dttT was..tvi Utack the ceupaol-
tion, lesrned that It contained chlorinated biphenyl, looked up a couple of references and
--------- wrote liis rsport. Ha did Seat it.# to bbltfVB "Mt wTtlTS fuses cm off but lie did net
snail than even line* ha stated he had already had on* bad experience with the A-200. He
---------- would not iey exactly whet~riTe'fencrHe~lddlttd up~na.found phosgene, chlorine, ml anidaa
of chlorine but h* did aay this is where h* got It. Blear wheeler did a goo* Job ef pra-
--------- Y*nting~our toxicity studies oh these aaSrTel* but AOBt Of It want right uvwr Higher'--------
head. Tha only point ha p&ld any attention to bslng tha fact that there was trace mounts
(leas than S PP*0
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After ccmsirtiiritbl~B discusiloh Hushes did agree that lfr htd tnyoP tUB Othar plants-ceallfr * "TM1`` *" then-tha^hla report was basedon his "
'parlance with A-200 and a lltaratura search and that there ware nb aEtlUir tiisgnnia to
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ta amm.tiMK ar 9K ihe..,s.taTiali were prwqnt._Ho............Bite agreed that if we submitted
aaotiier UAUfUtl uuutcUiXUk k CAlofiReteu proouet ne would lot ta* nodical people vole opinian this timm and Btt&mdlY. he weald cot reject it iuat became of the ward
chlorine. However, ha did stata they would not look at anything with Pels out tale it
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Be later MI with Bill Gaffney the tried to respire, sem of the political and aaatlesal problems with this situation. Gaffney was quite proud of hinself In that * h*d eohaffaag! M. with our letter to their vice president. statingther were not looking at our fluid. 7fcl was hit chance to got oven with us and when he got this report he wet delighted to rtmiiete it throughout chtrrolet at being a very hasardbig.and dangerous naterial. Naturally aftar wa axplainad what Hughes actually did, Gaffhay was a Uttia hit upaet with
that he warn now in is it aooaarad that ha had acted a little too hastily. Nevertheless, Gaffnty was quite reasonable. He was. eager to see us subnit another material and even suggested writing a retractionlstter on their findings._
Foiiorint that wo eat withiob Swift and quickly filled hia in on what all had transpired.
FAGUB: Georse there was a tretndeus mount of ground covered in this call and
reasonably well rsaolvad here how. However, there li 01* poimtwfw
i-ansin. another bit stir if too may people get on Hughes about his report. You will
definitely want to go back to Flynn 1`n sure but probably should tsik td khidlgh lb UK*
depth about this first so wq don't get a two way battle going botwosn thsae two plam
I think Hughes will cooperate with us if we don't hia into an eaoarfSIcing polltlW. klsu
thane is still the 24000 gallons of Houghton naterial at Tonawanda that we're after and
they seen receptive to give us another try at it with Pydraul zso-A.
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FUTURE ACTION: This tin we plan to subsit Pydreul JJfl-X as being the closest non-shelling
pwndnat to what thsy arp using. However, thiire are a couple of considsrstions. This tine
we will subj it technical data first along with predicted decoeposition products ne
nvmmmvM precautions such as res narks for working around fuaae, etc. These will be
submitted to the nodical department pending what Blner wheeler learns fron their corporate
personnel about the interest end capabilities of the local nodical people
hV accepted the date and inforsatioB,then wc will forward the sample, trio tmtple Mamin
Wit he labeled Pvdraul 2S0-A but instead, given an WCS or other masher. Essentially what
happened with US is we had lost the minute they sew the word Fydraul. Once they approve
ah. notarial . could always "renane it" to Fydraul 230-A.
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