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A A/C Piipp.e Producers Association Public Affairs Committee \T to International Affairs Committee SUBJECT- Field Problem -f-Ocean County, New Jersey ACTION REQUIRED: Review for information Internal Correspondence DATE April 27, 1981 Enclosed is a letter to the editor written by Hal Olson of Johns-Manville. The letter corrects misrepresentations made in the Editor's Note in a January 31,1981 editorial. Also enclosed are articles from the March 28 and March 31 issues of the Ocean County Reporter. If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to call. JFW/ajb Enclosure cc: A. Kahn, Esq. N. Rahn, Esq. N. Battle copies to: Public Affairs Committee International Affairs Comm. H. Olson B. Cook J. Baker T. Dougherty D. Stinson W. MeCallie R. Dorner E. van der Rest B. Giboin C. Walters R. Hobbs A. Saoulis R. Jalan V. Pattabhi H. Hudson C. Barton S. Al-Tarkait E. Costa FP/1 Chrono CAPCO JEN 0032940 RECEtVEfcwra - e ter Rebuttal To The Editor: In your Jan. 21 issue of The Ocean County Reporter, you printed a letter from John Welch of the Asbstos- Cement Pipe Producers Association in which Mr. Welch defended the use of A-C pipe and referenced a report of the American W'ater Works Association Research Foundation. Your Editor's Note criticized Mr. Welch for using a 1974 report, and you in turn stated. "In 1977, the National Academy of Sciences concluded that asbestos cement water pipe data 'strongly suggests that ingestion of as bestos mineral Fibers can result in an increased risk of cancer of several sites.' " This statement is totally false, and - should be retracted so that your readers are not more misinformed than they arc now. 1 rather suspect that you drew your quotation from a paper presented by EPA's Jim Millette at the Interna tional Symposium on Water Supply and Health." Mr. Millette ttoka sentence from the 1977 National Academy of Science report out of context. The very next sentence would have totally re versed the meaning. I believe Mr. Mil lette should be severely criticized for leaving a false impression as to whatthe National Academy of Science report said when he should know that he was distorting the meaning of the report. Mr. Millette, however, did not state as you have that the reference in the N.A.S. report had anything to do with "asbestos water pipe data." Mr. Millette referenced the sentence to airborne asbestos dust breathed by industrial workers. This data was based on a period of time when there were far different dust, conditions in industry than are in effect today. Mr. Millette's reference tried to tie industrial airborne data to asbestos ingested with water, but he was not so bold as to make a clear definitive statement to this effect as you have. I am sending you a copy ofa letter I recently wrote to Mr. Millette in which I call Mr. Millette to task for misleading- his audience by taking a sentence from the N.A.S. Report out of context with the conclusions of the re port. The other incorrect reference Mr. Millette made and which you again quoted was, ". . .there is now some direct human evidence of a relationship between asbestos in drinking water and increased cancer risk." This, too, is a totally erroneous conclusion, and was neither the conclusion of the researcher nor the official position of the EPA. In your editorial in the January 31 issue ofThe Reporter, another incorrect scare statement is made that will cause more confusion and anguish by your readers. 1 refer to the statement, "Water treatment to positively protect the lining of asbestos pipe would so harden the water as to present a diffe rent health hazard -- heart attacks -- also borne out by statistics." It is true there is a generally recognized statisti cal correlation between "hardness" in water and heart anacks. The relation! ship, however, is diametrically oppo site to what you state it is, i.e. where there is "hard" water there is a lesser incidence of heart attack, not greater. Where there is a soft aggressive water (such as would attack any piping mate rial including asbestos cement) there is a statistical greater incidence of heart attack. The reason for this relationship is unknown, but one commonly be lieved theory is that it is due to cardiotoxic metals that are leached into the water from metallic pipe (see attached report). There is or.e thing in life that is cer tain; and that is the fact there is abso lutely nothing in this world that is 100 percent "safe." Whether the water you drink comes from A-C pipe, iron pipe, plastic pipe or copper pipe, there is r.o 100 percent guarantee that there is zero risk associated v/ith its consumption. Beer and scotch whiskey have also been accused of containing cancer-causing agents. We all have heard of the hazards from cholesterol associated with drinking milk. One solution to the dilemma would be to refrain from drinking any liquid. We would then possibly be safer from cancer and heart attack unlii such time as we died from thirst. Reporters and editors have a great responsibility to their reading public. This trust is ill served when scare stories are spread that are not supported by facts, r.or a careful review of availa ble literature. H.L. Olsen Manager Environmental & Engineering Depart ment (Pipe Division) Johns-Manville Sales Corp. Denver, Colo. Feb. 23, 1981 <p. oOaAsX. i _ ~1 CAPCO JEN 0032941 c H >, 5uXw a c II g to-Hc-. oS >c? 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Replace no standards on the safe ingestion of asbes the 10 percent with ductol tos panicles in drinking water. iron pipe or pvc pipe and They realize that the federal Environ it's done with. You have a mental Protection Agency und the As 100 percent asbestos bestos Pipe I - ducers Association main pipe-free system." building on Route 88. power, a difference of on< T!te group hopes to enlist decimal point. the aid of Carl Cahill, the The manager of th-. man largely responsible for ; chemistry labs at the testing having the use of asbestos center verified that an erro. cement pipe banned in - such as this is common. Connecticut. According to But Mrs. Frank Martin, tain that asbestos-cement pipe is safe for Yanchosky says replac Yanchosky, Cahill has who resides at.8"Amy use. ing the pine now "would compiled reams of infor Court, claims tbpt.nev An.! they know that ifthe Brick Township be better than paying taxes mation on the issue, and for testing for asbestos-ha* ` Municipal Utility Authority (BTMUA) for the next twenty years to $3000 he will spend one never been performed. were to honor their request to replace the maintain a system that we week sharing his informa "A man came to my pipe, it would sei ofi wave of requests by don't even feel safe about. tion with interested groups. house the Friday after the oth.- water utility ratepayers. And in twenty years, if Yanchosky says the results were, released and Undaunted, a group of residents from the they're forced to tear up the . price of this venture is a said he was going to test the Sutton Village condominiums and t**e Hol lywood Manor housing development ir Brick Tov. n is demanding liie removal ofthe ct!.:;:>" er-inl pipe. pipe,|wejre going to be ! faced; with more costs. We're already paying what arc probably the highest sewage and water rates drawback, but he says the MUA, from the beginning, has requested the aid of rpcrsons who are know' legeable of the issue, and water," Mrs, Martin re calls. "I asked him what the tests were for, and he said they were for hard ness, aggressivity and al "We will not accept any amount of as-. around." : that they should be the ones kalinity. He said the Au be-,:.iii our drinking water." said group Yanchosky asks: "Don't . spi.i.CMivai' Paul Yanchosky. acknowledg you think it would be more that pay for Cahill's ap pearance. thority would test the water and that the results would ing that the ingestion of asbestos fibers has not been proven to be a carcinogen. "Tiieie is no reason to take a risk on inge'.'.iog something that may turn out to be harmful in 20 years. "brick has only 10 percent asbestos ce- sensible to replace the 10 percent of.pipe now than to wonder what's going to .happe i twenty years from now?" . ' fc>"I realize that they (health officials) say, that ' Yanchosky says the group plans to file a formal complaint with the state Department of Environ mental Protection to that effect that it objects to the use of the pipe. be available that (Friday) afternoon. I askedhim ifhe was going to test for as bestos and he said 'No. we're not scheduled for apy tests on asbestos." Mrs.Martin says that \ ingestion of asbestos is not In addition to its opposi when she called the au } harmful, but five years age tion to the pipe, the group thority the following Mon they said that asbestos was questions the validity of day, she was told that their not harmful when inhaled MUA-commissioned tests was nothing wrong with either. Now there are all for asbestos content. her water. : ; kinds of restrictions on air The authority reported Ciesla maintains that borne asbestos." , .''With costs to do this type of working rising every day, now is the time ; to replace the pipe," Yan- chosky says.'. ~ According to " Yan chosky, about 370 resi- ; ' dents have already signed a petition stating that they will not accept any amount of asbestos in the drinking ' water. 1 The group plans to pre sent the petition to the,. earlier tills month that tests. two water samples taken os performed at Franklin Re- ' .that day were for further saarch Center in Philadel asbestos testing, and in fact phia showed 700,000 fib the water is being tested at ers greater than 5 microns " this moment. in length per liter of water" -- ..He said he does not taken from a home at 8 know why the man who Amy Court, Sutton Vil- -- took the water samples said luge, and said additional what he did, or ifin fact hi testing for asbestos content did say it. would begin immediately. Last week, however, the authority saiJ the 700,000 Yanchosky invites in terested persons to attend the next group meeting at fiber count was erroneous. the Sutton Village The actual count, it said, Clubhouse off Sally Ike was 70,000 fibers per liter. Road, Bricktown on Wed MUA executive director nesday, April 8 at 8 p.m. Andrew Ciesla attributed . The MUA meets to the,error to a misinterpre night, V-'edncsday, March tation- of the results. He 2S. at 8:30 in the authority sui.l lie mistook .7 times ten building on Route 88. lt CAPCO JEN 0032943 EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE AACPP W. R. Blankenship Certain-teed Products Corporation Valley Forge, PA 19481 R. Smith Johns-Manville Sales Corporation Pipe Division P. 0. Box 5108' Denver, Colorado 80217 J. S. Autry Johns-Manville Sales Corporation Suite 214 1025 Connecticut Avenue, N. W. Washington, D. C. 20036 H. Taylor The Flintkote Company Pipe Division One Cascade Plaza Suite 1402 Akron, Ohil 44308 i "I CAPCO JEN 0032944 COMMITTEE Board of Directors *AACPP Officer & Member of Executive Committee Industry Promotion & Steerinq . Market Development ' APPENDIX A AACPP STANDING COMMITTEE MEMBERS . CHAIRMAN VOTING SECRETARY MEMBER ALTERNATES Taylor Jackson* Taylor* Ambler* Boush* Ariss Barge A1ej andre CO. CA CT JM CJ AA MN Jackson Welch Jackson Selby Baker Olson Perrel1 Small Weich Cook McGinley, Duffy. Gillen, Sorrentino SF AA CT JM CA CJ Perrell Sorrentino Perrel1 Selby Baker Olson Smal 1 Duffy S&rrenti-no CA AA CT JM CJ Technical Gillen Fraser Gillen Fraser Alejandre Cook Korobij . JM CJ MN AA CT CA .v * / OFFICERS Taylor, Chairman Boush, Vice Chairman Ambler, Treasurer Jackson, President/Secretary AACPP STAFF (SF) COMPANIES Jackson, President Welch, Dir.-Public'Affairs Atlas Horvath, Dir-Technical Aff. Johns-Manville Grisdela, Assoc Dir.- PA Canadian Johns-Manville Guy, Admin. Asst. CAPCO Certain-Teed Mexalit del Norte AA JM CJ CA CT MN . CAPCO JEN 003294-5 APPENDIX A TABLE 1 AACPP REGULAR MEMBERS ATLAS ASBESTOS COMPANY 5600 Hochelaga Street Montreal, Quebec .Canada HIN 1W1 (Tel. 514-259-2531) * G. Barge CERTAIN-TEED CORPORATION 750 East Swedesford Road P. 0. Box 860 Valley Forge, Pennsylvania (Tel. 215-687-5000) * L. Ambler 19482 CANADIAN JOHNS-MANVILLE CO., LTD. 565 Lakeshore Road, East Mississauga, Ontario Canada L5G 1H9 (Tel. 416-278-7211) * J. Ariss JOHNS-MANVILLE CORPORATION Ken Caryl Ranch Mail Stop: 3-08 Denver, Colorado 80217 (Tel. 303-979-1000) * A. Boush CEMENT ASBESTOS PRODUCTS COMPANY 2144 Highland Avenue, South P. 0. Box 3435 Birmingham, Alabama 35205 (Tel. 205-933-7281) * L. Taylor MEXALIT DEL NORTE, S.A. Reforma 35 - Sexto Piso Mexico 1, D.F. Mexico (Tel. 5-66-39-55) * J. Alejandre * Members of the Board of Directors i1 CAPCO JEN 0032946 TABLE 2 AACPP ASSOCIATE MEMBERS ASSOCIATION DE L'INDUSTRIE L1ASBESTE-CIMENT Case postale 73 CH-1260 Nyon, Switzerland (Tel. 022-61-47-41) * R. Dorner ETERNIT, S.A. World Trade Center Boulevard Emile Jacqmain, 162, Box 37 1000 Brussels Belgi um (Tel. 015-711.11 8L) * E. Van Der Rest JAMES HARDIE & COMPANY PTY., LTD. Asbestos.House, Box 3935, G.P.O. Sydney, New South Wales Australia (Tel. 2-0279) * E. Heath * B. Dunn HYDERABAD ASBESTOS CEMENT PRODUCTS LTD. Sanatnager, Hyderabad 500 018 India (Tel. 29541) * R. Jalan * V. Pattabhi PARAISTEN KALKKI OY Pargas, Finland (Tel. 921-744422) * A. Edgren TAC CONSTRUCTION MATERIALS LTD. P. 0. Box 22 Trafford Park Manchester Ml7 1RU United Kingdom (Tel. 061-872-2181) * A. Wailes HELLENIC INDUSTRY FOR BUILDING MATERIALS HELLENIT, S.A. 8 Omirou Street Athens, Greece (133) (Tel. 231.243-4-6) * A. Saoulis * M. Vlachakis * AACPP Representatives CAPCO JEN 0032947