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UNION CARBIDE CORPORATION METALS OIVISI
June 27, 1980
Mr. J. F. Reis Johns-Manville Corporation Ken-Caryl Ranch Denver, CO 80217
Dear Jim:
Enclosed is the copy of your text on which I have made a few comments. I have retained a copy for Harry Rhodes to look at and he will contact you directly if he has any additional comments.
As we discussed, I would suggest a paragraph or two on the hazard, or lack of a hazard, to the general population. I think legislators, especially, should hear the industry side of this phase of the asbestos story. I have enclosed a copy of my 12/75 paper for the JPT with the "public environment" section circled.
I have always been impressed by the fact that, as I understand it, the Quebec asbestos miners have a lower incidence of lung cancer than the general population in Montreal. If true, perhaps this is another point to make.
Is there any way to establish the actual number of deaths per year due to asbestos exposure? I found the attached table in my files, but it only covers asbestosis for 1960-1967. It would be good information if we knew something about trends based on actual data rather than speculations by NIOSH, EPA, OSHA, etc.
I think the "Asbestos Issue" idea is a good one and commend J-M for the work already expended on it. I am sure we will use your more general presentation when available.
Thank you for allowing me to review the text and perhaps I'll see you at the Substitutes Workshop.
Very truly yours.
Marketing Manager'
JLMrdal Enclosure
Johns-Manville Corporation
Ken-Caryt Ranch Denver, Colorado 80217 (303)978-1000
Executive Offices
June 16, 1980
Mr. John Myers Union Carbide Carp. P.O. Bax 579 Niagara Falls, NY 14302
Dear John:
Attached is a copy of the text for our Asbestos Issue plant tour presentation. As I mentioned at the meeting, we will delete certain sections that are more pertinent to Johns-Manville and develop a version for use by AIA members.
I would appreciate any cements or suggestions you might have.
Very truly yours
JFRstw Attachment
James F. Reis Director, Asbestos Policy
RECEIVED JUN 2 3 1980
UCC-CAUDRIA NIAGARA rALLS, N. Y.
GOOD MORNING. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN:
I All (namf)(title) . OF JOHNS-MANSVILLE's .(plant or dept).
WITH HE THIS MORNING ARE (name & title)
FIRST, WE'D LIKE TO'
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR JOINING US. YOUR PRESENCE DEMONSTRATES YOUR
JNJEBfiSI IN HEARING MORE ABOUT OUR TOPIC -- ASBESTOS -- A TOPIC THAT
EMOTIONAL IN NATURE. BEFORE WE GET INTO THE SUBJECT,
HOWEVER, LET HE TELL YOU WHAT THE AGENDA IS. FIRST, WE WILL SPELL
OUT THE DETAILS OF THE ASBESTOS ISSUE, AND THEN WE WILL FIELD ANY '
AND ALL QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. FOLLOWING THAT WE WILL HAVE LUNCH.
LET ME INTRODUCE (name)
FROM OUR CORPORATE OFFICES IN DENVER,
WHO WILL PROVIDE SOME BACKGROUND INFORMATION ON ASBESTOS.
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t THANK YOU (name)
LET ME ADD MY WELCOME TO ALL OF YOU AND
THANK EACH OF YOU FOR COMING. ^HNS-MANVILLE HAS RECEIVED MUCH
NEGATIVE PUBLICITY ABOUT ASBESTOS, AND WE WANT YOU TO KNOW THE WHOLE STORY, NOT JUST WHAT YOU'VE READ IN THE PRESS. YOU PROBABLY HAVE MANY QUESTIONS.
- IS ASBESTOS A CARCINOGEN? - IS THERE A SAFE EXPOSURE LIMIT? - IS IT A HAZARD IN TODAY'S OCCUPATIONAL SETTING? - IS AN ASBESTOS USING PLANT A HAZARD TO A NEIGHBORHOOD? - IS THERE A RISK TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC IN USING ASBESTOS
CONTAINING PRODUCTS, INCLUDING A/C WATER PIPE? - DID J-rt COVER UP THE HEALTH HAZARD? : .WE PLAN TO ANSWER EACH OF THESE QUESTIONS CANDIDLY, AND, IF MOST OF [i WHAT YOU KNOW ABOUT ASBESTOS AND ASBESTOS-RELATED DISEASES IS WHAT ! YOU'VE HEARD OR READ IN THE MEDIA, WE HOPE TO CLARIFY THE ISSUE FOR YO
BECAUSE IT DEALS WITH HUMAN HEALTH, THE ASBESTOS HATTER IS NOT ONLY A VERY COMPLEX ISSUE, BUT ALSO A HIGHLY EMOTIONAL ONE. THE EMOTIONALISM OF THE ASBESTOS ISSUE IS OFTEN MADE WORSE BY THE
CEPtA-j'iO PARTIES INVOLVEDR/E'GErSUP.LEACTIoAOLtL'YAOPELAiOINCTyIFFS' ATTORNEYS, ANHEADLINE SEEKING GOVERNMENT'tiFFICIALS. SO, I ASK YOU TO KEEP AN OPEN MIND AND TO DRAW YOUR OWN CONCLUSIONS. AGAIN, LET ME EMPHASIZE THAT WE WILL ANSWER TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE FOLLOWING OUR PRESENTATION.
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ASBESTOS IS A GENERIC TERM APPLIED TO SIX MINERALS WHICH ALL HAVE A FIBROUS STRUCTURE. ^SBESTOS CAN BE DIVIDED INTO TWO MAIN CLASSES,
BASED OH,THE CRYSTALLINE STRUCTURE OF THE HOST ROCK - SERPENTINE
AND AMPHIBOLES. WITHIN THESE TWO CLASSIFICATIONS THERE ARE FO
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A>i MIHILE ASBESTOS FORMATIONS ARE FOUND EVERYWHERE IN THE EARTH'S CRUST,
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ANCIENT
"INFXTINGII1SHARIF.* THE GREEKS AND ROMANS USED ASBESTOS TO HAKE
WICKS FOR TEMPLE LAMPS. CLASSICAL WRITERS OF REPUTE -SHEfeA^PtSNY,
WROTE ABOUT A SUBSTANCE WHICH, WHEN LIT,
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IS ALSO KNOWN THAT ASBESTOS WAS USED FOR MEDICAL PURPOSES IN THE
PAST AND IN CERTAIN COUNTRIES IT WAS USED IN THE MAKING OF LIGHT
POTTERY AND^THE BUILDING OF ICSHb=ftgg^EEL OVENS. HOWEVER, IN
SPITE OF SUCH VARIED APPLICATIONS, FOR CENTURIES, ASBESTOS REMAINED
NOTHING MORE THAN A CURIflfelTY.
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ft sf TODAY PRACTICALLY EVERYONE USES ASBESTOS IN ONE FORM OR ANOTHER.
OVER THREE THOUSAND PRODUCT^MNTAIN ASBESTOS. USUALLY IN COMBIN
ATION WITH OTHER MATERIALS, WITH PROPERTIES UNMATCHED BY ANY OTHER
NATURAL OR MAN-MADE MATERIAL. ADEQUATE SUBSTITUTES FOR ASBESTOS HAVE
NOT BEEN IDENTIFIED TO DATE FOR
REINFORCEMENT. DURABILITY AND
ROT RESISTANCE IN PRODUCTS LIKE 'ASBESTOS CEMENT PIPE. T5U1LD1NG
PANELS. rLOORljg, SHEtT GOODS'1 A|D~R00FIN6. COMPRISING tCSS- THAN
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OF SUCH PRODUCTS, THESE INCREDIBLY STRONG FIBERS ARE NOT FREE
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%GH TEMPERATURE PACKING MATERIALS^SKETS AND?RICTION MATERIALS
SUCH AS BRAKE LININGS AND CLUTCH FACINGS. THE SAME PROPERTIES WftUVA-SPHAtjr 8>A.S3>
HAVE MADE ASBESTOS INVALUABLE IN THE PRODUCTION OF^COATINGS AND
SEALANTS/ TEXTILES SUCH AS THIS FIRE FIGHTING SUIT, AND INSULATING
PRODUCTS. IN THE PAST, HOWEVER, THERE WERE SOME APPLICATIONS '
WHERE THE FIBERS WERE NOT LOCKED-IN- BY BINDERS,
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BUT, THE KEY WORD HERE IS EXCESSIVE. ASBESTOS USED UNDER PROPER
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ME DELINEATE THE HEALTH SITUATION. THERE ARE THREE DISEASES ASSOCIATED WITH EXCESSIVE EXPOSURE TO ASBESTOS FIBER.
Asbestosis. which is the host prevalent of the three, is a non-
CANCEROUS LUNG CONDITION THAT CAN BE CAUSED BY EXCESSIVE INHALATION AND RETENTION OF ASBESTOS FIBER OVER MANY YEARS. ASBESTOSIS IS A SCARRING OF.THE LUNG TISSUE AND IS ONE OF SEVERAL DISEASES CLASSIFIED AS PNEUMOCONIOSES, EACH OF WHICHJS-CAUFcn pv ll'|Hfil 'NG SPEC IRC
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THE second disease js lung cancer, there is less incidence of this ASBESTOS-RELATED DISEASE THAN THERE IS ASBESTOSIS. BUT LUNG CANCER IS SIGNIFICANT BECAUSE IT IS THE CHIEF CAUSE OF DFATH AMONG PFR.SOH.qgT
CVDn"nZ,eyn: H0WEVER' MEDICAL EVIDENCE CLEARLY INDICATES
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CIGARETTE SMOKING, THERE WOULD BE NO SIGNIFICANT
EXCESS OFOTGCANCER AMONG PEOPLE OCCUPATIONALLY EXPOSED TO ASBESTOS. 1 WILL COME BACK TO SMOKING IN A MOMENT.
.Y*> n--'l-E-S- O--THE--LIO,JjA IS THE THIRD DISEASE IDENTIFOIEDwAuS itHeAVI-NroG A RELATIONSHIP TO^XjSSjkE ASBESTOS EXPOSURE, AS WELL ASCERTAIN OTHER SUBSTANCES.
IT IS A ^ DI"SBEeAcSaEuseAFF/ErCT/sING THE LININGS OF THE'CHEST AND ABDOMINAL CAYITIES.HOWEYERAJ0LMOST OF THE TALK YOU HEAR IS ABOUT EITHER
ASBESTOSIS OR LUNG CANCER.
<3 SO WHAT VIE HAVE ARE THREE TYPES OF DISEASES. NOVI, IN ORDER TO
FULLY UNDERSTAND THE HEALTH ASPECTS, YOU SHOULD UNDERSTAND THE
DIFFERENT CATEGORIES OF EMPLOYEES WORKING WITH ASBESTOS.
WORKERS IN MINES, MILLS OR FACTORIES MANUFACTURING ASBESTOS CON- f TA1N1NG PRODUCTS HANDLING 100% ASBESTOS FIBER. THEY NUMBER APPRO-L XIMATELY 250,000.
PINSULATION WORKERS WHO WORKED WITH THE PRODUCTS ^ AND OTHERS IN r $ INDUSTRY PRODUCElT^aneS 5-15%"aSBEST0s"fTbe1 THERE ARE L I AN ESTIMATED 30,000 TJEEIEEM,
pTHERE IS A THIRD CLASS OF WORKERS WHICH DESERVES COMMENT - WORKERS IN GOVERNMENT CONTROLLED ENVIRONMENTS, PRIMARILY WAR-TIME SHIPYARDS. BY THE GOVERNMENT'S OWN FIGURES, OVER 4 MILLION PEOPLE FALL INTO
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THE DISTINCTION OF THE SHIPYARD WORKER IS VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE OF THE SHEER NUMBER OF PEOPLE INVOLVED AND THEIR INTENSE EXPOSURE TO ASBESTOS. ALSO. THE EVIDENCE IS QUITE CLEAR THAT THE GOVERN MENT FAILED TO TAKE RESPONSIBLE ACTIONS TO PROTECT ITS EMPLOYEES. THE BURDEN OF FAIRLY COMPENSATING THESE GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES FALLS
@7RARELY UPON THE U.S. NAVY AND CONGRESS.
"tET HE MOVE ON TO AN AREA THAT IN RECENT TIMES HAS HAD THE MOST 5 PUBLICITY --LITIGATION AND ITS COROLLARY:THE STATE OF MEDICAL
KNOWLEDGE ABOUT ASBESTOS HEALTH HAZARDS.
TODAY JOHNS-MANVILLE IS A DEFENDANT IN OVER 3,000 LAWSUITS. INSUL ATION WORKERS REPRESENT ABOUT ONE-HALF OF THOSE PLAINTIFFS, AND SHIPYARD WORKERS AND,IN A FEW CASES,SPOUSES OR FAMILY MEMBERS OF THOSE WORKERS REPRESENT THE OTHER HALF. AS YOU MAY KNOW, LITIGATION IS BASED UPON A FINDING OF FAULT (TO USE A LEGAL TERM) AND WITH 1 RESPECT TO ASBESTOS RELATED DISEASE, ^FH5R^M?B5ildS^BiSM --TttfegSEHJF J-RL-. !>' bJoT fvt ^aum-T
DURING THOSE YEARS OF EXCESSIVE EXPOSURE THERE WAS NO AGREEMENT AMONG THE MEDICAL PROFESSION, THE U.S. GOVERNMENT, UNIONS, THE WORKERS, J-M AND OTHER ASBESTOS FIBER PRODUCERS OF ANY HEALTH HAZARD BEYOND ASBESTOSIS. AND, THE^ASBESTOSIS DANGER WAS BELIEVED BY ALL TO DISAPPEAR WITH THE REDUCTION OF DUST COUNTS TO LEVELS RECOMMENDED BY THE U.S. PUBLIC HEALTH SERVICE IN 1938. ^ : 3807
: IT IS IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE THE LEVEL OF KNOWLEDGE ABOUT ASBESTOS HEALTH HAZARDS DURING THE YEARS. THERE ARE ACTUALLY TWO Tiff PERIODS
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IN THE FIRST PERIOD THERE WAS GENERAL KNOWLEDGE THAT ASBESTOSIS
EXISTED AMONG ASBESTOS FACTORY WORKERS. J-M WAS PAYING WORKERS COMPENSATION CLAIMS .FOR ASBESTOSIS TO ITS OWN FACTORY WORKERS 6? AS FAR BACK AS THE 1930's AND EVERYONE INCLUDING THE MEDICAL PROFESSION. INSURANCE COMPANIES, UNIONS AND WORKERS KNEW ABOUT IT.
ALSO IN THE 1930's, JOHNS-MANVILLE, OTHERS IN THE INDUSTRY AND OUR INSURANCE CARRIERS, UNDERWROTE MEDICAL STUDIES ON ASBESTOS-RELATED DISEASE. SEMINARS WERE CONDUCTED DURING THESE TIMES AND ATTENDED BY THE CHIEF OCCUPATIONAL MEDICAL OFFICER OF THE.U.S. PUBLIC HEALTH SERVICE AND HIS COUNTER-PART IN CANADA. REPORTS WERE PUBLISHED ONCE THE STUDIES WERE COMPLETE.
''' IN 1938, AS .1 SAID, THE U.S. PUBLIC HEALTH SERVICE PUBLISHED THE RESULTS OF ITS FIRST STUDY MADE SPECIFICALLY TO CHARACTERIZE ASBESTOSIS AND IDENTIFY A SAFE LEVEL OF EXPOSURE BELOW WHICH ONE WOULD NOT GET ASBESTOSIS. FROM THAT STUDY RECOMMENDED STANDARDS FOR WORKING ENVIRONMENTS WERE ESTABLISHED AND IT WAS BELIEVED . THAT THERE WAS NOT ANY DISEASE PROBLEM BEYOND ASBESTOSIS.
^TRAGICALLY THESE RECOMMENDED STANDARDS FOR ASBESTOS DUST CONTROL
LATER PROVED TO BE INADEQUATE. AND, DURING THE WAR AND INTO THE
1960's,THERE CONTINUED TO BE EXCESSIVE EXPOSURE TO ASBESTOS.
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FURTHER, IN 194&THE GOVERNMENT UNDERTOOK AND PUBLISHED THE RESULTS
OF ANOTHER STUDY WHICH INDICATED THAT INSULATION WORK IN SHIPYARDS
WAS NOT A HAZARDOUS OCCUPATION.
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THERE WAS A CONSIDERABLE BODY OFMEDICAL KNOWLEDGE
INDICATING THAT ASBESTOS WAS A SAFE PRODUCT IN A CONTROLLED ENVIRON HENT AND POSED NO THREAT TO THOSE WORKING WITH ASBESTOS-CONTAINING INSULATION PRODUCTS.
THAT LEADS US TO OUR NEXT KEY.DATE - 1964, IN THAT YEAR DR/SELIKOFF SCttao*-
OF Iff. SINAI HOSfnTBL'aF NEW YORK PUBLISHED FINDINGS WHICH CHANGED
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EVERYTHING? HE SHOWEDaJ|aASBESTOS OVEREXPOSURE COULD HEIGHTEN THE
RISK OF DISEASE AMONG INSULATION WORKERS ANuD>o2A) \tLsUeN^G CANCER WAS AN ASBESTOS RELATED DISEASE, MAINLY CONFINED TO'CIGARETTESSfiefctNG
WSRffiftS. EVERY STUDY SINCE THEN HAS SUPPORTED DR. SELIKOFF'S
FINDINGS AND RUNS COUNTER TO ALL FORMER KNOWLEDGE OF ASBESTOS AND
HEALTH.
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MID TO LATE 1960's. THAT RESPONSE HAS TAKEN THE FORM OF^l) IMPROVED
^i''MEDICAL SURVEILLANCE 2fIMPROVED EDUCATION OF WORKERS AS TO APPRO$4' PRIATE WORK PRACTICES AND PROCEDURES 3^IHPR0VED DUST CONTROL EQUIP
MENT AND WORK PRACTICES TO ELIMINATE HAZARDOUS CONDITIONS. 4fM0NI-
TORING OF THE WORKPLACE BY INDilSTRIAl HYGIENISTS. AHIAy DISCONTINUED ,
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ASBESTOSIS OR ASBESTOS-RELATED LUNG CANCER CASES AMONG OUR WORKERS,
WHOSE ONLY EXPOSURE TO ASBESTOS HAS BEEN AT THIS LOCATION.- WE DO
NOT KNOW PRECISELY WHAT THE DUST COUNTS WERE AT THE STOCKTON PLANT
DURING ITS EARLIER YEARS BUT WE BELIEVE THEY WERE AS HIGH OR HIGHER
THAN THE PRESE&NT OSHA STANDARD OF 2 FIBERS PER CUBIC CENTIMNtEiTraE-eRf.i&Gt cP tag" AID WE BELIEVE THAT THAT -STANDARD IS EfTECTlVELY CLiniHATINGDlSEftSC.
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ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO WE TOOK ANOTHER STEP WHICH WAS A FIRST FOR A MAJOR CORPORATION. WeHaNNED SMOKING AT OUR ASBESTOS-USING FACILITIES
I WILL BE HAPPY TO EXPLAIN THE DETAILS OF THIS PROGRAM IF ANYONE IS
rCREGTEDi BUT FOR MI SUIT ICC IT TO JAY THE CrWST HAS,.BEEN.
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SUCCESSFUL AND IS A CLEAR DEMONSTRATION OF OUR CONTINUING COMMITMENT
TO PROVIDE A SAFE WORKING ENVIRONMENT FOR OUJLEMPLOYEES.
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OOUR CONCERN FOR''EMPLOYEES' HEALTH - A L0N6-*gffiT CONCERN, CAUSES US TO WINCE WHEN SOME REPORTER OR^ONGRESSMAN SHOUTS THAT WE COVERED
UP THE HA7ARDS FROM OUR OWN EMPLOYEES WITH ALLEGATIONS THAT J-M
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eawesaPOP KNOWLEDGEJK* ASBESTOS-RELATED DISEASE. HOWER, THE
, EVIDENCE SHOWS JUgTJHE OPPOSITE. J-PI SPONSORED ONE MEDICAL STUDY
\ AFTER ANOTHER, INFACT, 30 MAJOR PROJECTS TO FIND OUT THE SERIOUSNESS
OF THE PROBLEM. J-M ADOPTED EVERY CONCLUSION AND RECOMMENDATION OF
THOSE .STUDIES AND LOWERED THE WORKPLACE EXPOSURE TO-OR. BELOW THE
STANDARDS ESTABLISHED. ADDITIONALLY, J-M ENGINEERED m PIONEERED IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF OVER 500^UST CONTROL PROCEDURES AND SYSTEMS*
OVER THE YEARS AT T^COST OF OVER $100 MILLION. THE FACTS SHOW
THAT J-M ACTED RESPONSIBLY AT ALL TIMES AND FULLY CONSISTENT WITH AVAILABLE .MEDICAL KNOWLEDGE.
CoO^ TO DATE, IN NONE OF THE CASE^PROCEEDING THROUGH TRIAL HAS A JURY
AWARDED PUNITIVE DAMAGES, THE INDICATOR OF COVER-UP* WE CONTINUE TO BELIEVE THAT COVER-UP ALLEGATIONS ARE WITHOUT BASIS IN FACT AND NO COURT SHOULD FIND US GUILTY OF SUCH CHARGES.
THE JUDGE OR JURY HAS FOUND IN OUR FAVOR INn_ OUT OF THE LAST ^ LEGAL CASES PROCEEDING THROUGH TRIAL. IN THE TYPICAL CASE INVOLVING AN INSULATION WORKER WITH ASBESTOSIS THE JURY MUST ^ULTIMATELY RESULVE TWO ISSUES: FIRST, AT WHAT POINT IN TIME WAS A HAZARD TO THE INSULATION WORKER REASONABLY FORESEEABLE THUS GIVING RISE TO A DUTY TO WARN? SECOND, AFTER ANY SUCH DUTY AROSE, WERE REASONABLE PRECAUTIONARY STEPS TAKEN? RESOLVING THESE ISSUES IN ASBESTOS RELATED CASES IS HIGHLY COMPLEX AND IN THE CASES FOUND AGAINST US; WE BELIEVE THE JUDGEMENT WAS USUALLY THE RESULT OF .
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' ' AN EMOTIONAL HEED BY THE JURY TO RECOGNIZE THAT COMPENSATION WAS NEEDED FOR THE PLAINTIFF.
VIHAT I HAVEN'T SAID AND WHAT WE SINCERELY FEEL, HOWEVER, IS THAT PREVAILING IN A MAJORITY OF THE LAW SUITS IN NO WAY ADDRESSES A .^VtAR MORE DESIRABLE GOAL THAT OF FAIRLY AND EQUITABLY COMPEN-
SATING THOSE WHO HAVE SUFFERED IN THE PAST FROM THE INCOMPLETE f ^KNOWLEDGE OF THE DANGERS OF ASBESTOS EXPOSURE. THIS IS A FAR MORE
PRESSING NEED IN OUR HINDS.
^ WE HAVE DEVOTED COUNTLESS HOURS OVER A LONG PERIOD WITH KEY >f^ONGRESSIONAL LEADERS AND REGULATORS EXPLAINING THE FACTS OF THE-
ASBESTOS SITUATION AND OUR BELIEF THAT SOME FORM OF COMPENSATION :
LEGISLATION IS WARRANTED. WE WILL CONTINUE TO ACTIVELY PROMOTE.
-fTHIS SOLUTION BECAUSE IT WOULD PROVIDE THE MEANS FOR PROMPT AND
SETTLEMENT VERSUS YEARS OF DELAY AS CASES Dg THROUGH THE . M ' COURTS. ALSO, IT WOULD GIVE OUR OWN J-M EMPLOYEES A WAY TO
PARTICIPATE IN EQUAL COMPENSATION. THEY ARE NOW ONLY COVERED
BY WORKERS COMPENSATION AND EXCLUDED FROM THE THIRD PARTY LITIALSo 1
GAT ION ROUTE. IT WOULD AVOID THE HIGH COSTS OF COURT ADMINIS
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WE HAVE%EN VSRY ENCOURAGED LATELY BY THE RESPONSE WE HAVE
RECEIVED IN WASHINGTON. A NUMBER OF SENATORS AND CONGRESSMEN
ARE OPTIMISTIC THATMUCH-NEEDED LEGISLATION ON ASBESTOS <
RELATED COMPENSATION IS FORTHCOMING.
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THE USE OF
OR ELIMINATE ASBESTOS IN FINISHED PRODUCTS. A NUMBER OF THE
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. REGULATIONS WHICH WOULD RESTRICT THE USE OF OR_ELIMINATE ASBESTOS ARE CURRENTLY BEING CONSIDERED IN WASHINGTON.^WE BELIEVE THOSE
PROPOSALS ARE NOT SUPPORTED BY THE WEIGHT OF SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE AND SHOULD NUT BE ADOPTED.
ADDITIONALLY, SUCH UNWARRANTED REGULATION WOULD DEPRIVE SOCIETY OF PRODUCTS WHICH HAVE THE SUPERIOR PROPERTIES SUCH AS RESISTANCE TO FIRE AND DETERIORATION AND STRENGTH ASBESTOS AFFORDS AND WHICH NEED POSE NO HEALTH HAZARD WHEN EgBPERLY INSTALLED AND USED.
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dii/A FURTHER, TF THE USE OF ASBESTOSBANNED. THOUSANDS OF WORKERS if \i U WOULD LOSE
ASBEST0S
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AND WE WILL DEFEND THE RESPONSIBLE. USE OF ASBESTOS SO LONG AS \
THE MEDICAL EXPERTS TELL US THAT ASBESTOS CAN BE PRODUCED AND SAFELY.
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ASSOCIATION OF MANUFACTURERS AND OTHER INDUSTRY GROUPS ARE^ING
ISSUE WITH THE PROPOSED REGULATIONSBECAUSE THEY RECOGNI2&J8>AS
A TEST CASE FOR FUTURE RULES ON SUSPECTED CARCINOGENIC SUBSTANCES
AND, THUS, AN ISSUE WITH CONSEQUENCES FAR BEYOND OUR OWN ASBESTOS
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LET ME PUT ANY FEARS YOU MAY HAVE TO REST. THERE IS NO EVIDENCE
THAT ASBESTOS IN DRINr_JSptBisGrTAWtTfEJR HAS ANY KIND OF IMPACT ON INCREASING THE RISK OFrfittteBf. STUDIES ON POPULATIONS EXPOSED
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RECEIVING DRINKING WATER THROUGH ASBESTOS-CEMENT PIPE HAVE UNIFORMLY FAILED TO DEMONSTRATE ANY RISK ASSOCIATED WITH THE INGESTION OF ASBESTOS IN WATER.
!^%CES ASBESTOS-CEMENT PIPE CONTRIBUTE ASBESTOS TO DRINKING WATER CONVEYED THROUGH ITY^THIS PRODUCT HAS BEEN IN USE FOR OVER 50
YEARS AND HAS AN EXCELLENT/TRECORD. AS LONG AS THE CEMENT BINDER
THE RELEASE, IF ANY, OF THE LOCKED-IN FIBER IS
HOWEVER, CERTAIN CORROSIVE OR AGGRESSIVE WATERS
ANY PIPING MATERIAL. WHERE THESE TYPE WATERS EXIST/
V THE USE OF ASBESTOS-CEMENT PIPE IS NOT RECOMMENDED. IN MODERATE
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LABORATORY RESULTS THAT A/C PIPE DOES NOT CONTRIBUTE SIGNIFICANT,
OR IN MANY CASES, EVEN MEASURABLE AMOUNTS OF ASBESTOS TO DRINKING
WATER CONVEYED THROUGH IT. THESE JUDGEMENTS HAVE BEEN CONFIRMED
BY SOME OF THE MOST RESPECTED AUTHORITIES IN THE WORLD. r-~ Fr Q
MT. SINAI'S DR. IRVING SELIKOFF,-A-LEAEHNG-R&SEARGHER-IN-ASBESTOSt \ CJ'J THAT''INSOFAR AS ASBESTOS-CEMENT PIPE FOR PUBLIC WATER SUPPLIES
IS CONCERNED, THERE IS NO DATA DEMONSTRATING A HAZARD.^THIS
CONCLUSION IS SUPPORTED BY THE CANCER INSTITUTE.
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US THAT WE ARE NOT DOING ANYTHING TODAY WHICH WOULD CAUSE FUTURE DISEASE.
GENTLEMEN, LET ME NOW TURN THE MEETING BACK TO (hhf)
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WILL BRIEFLY DETAIL SOME OF THE PRACTICES AND PROCEDURES USED HERE
IN _1_ TO ASSURE OUR WORKER'S SAFETY. FOLLOWING
HIS COMMENTS WE WILL ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS.
(PLANT MANAGER) BRIEFLY REVIEWS GAINS MADE AT PLANT - DEMONSTRATES TESTING AND SAFETY EQUIPMENT - OUTLINES MEDICAL SURVEILLANCE PROGRAM -- COVERS DETAILS ON WASTE DISPOSAL.
Q. AND A.
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