Document wgo0xv0EVrMgqROvDjqnbbExo
FILE NAME Quebec Asbestos Mining Association QAMA
DATE 0000
DOC QAMA022
DOCUMENT DESCRIPTION Summary List of the QAMA Documents Obtained
from the US Govt
SUMMARY OF THE QAMA DOCUMENTS OBTAINED FROM THE U. S. GOVERNMENT
Note
If a document is skipped
and believed to be unimportant
number even though illegible
it's because it has been read
Some documents will be given a
U. S.
3000
Illegible
be of some
It is a four page document which appears to
importance and concerns Dr. Lanza's advise
No legible date can be read however Government QAMA Summary No. 7 refers to this document and says it's January 1948 and that it deals with tuberculosis Government Summary 8 also refers to this document with the quote that not only do the doctors need
enlightenment
commissioners
but so do the workers compensation
and factual information should be
published
as it is
in established medical journals as
developed
This document also
promptly
contains
comments by Dr.
Kenneth Smith
Vorwald
Dr.
George Wright
and Dr.
3001
From Kenneth Smith to J. P. Woodard dated February 18
1948. It refers to a proposed visit of Saranac people
to Thetford
This document is prominent on Government
Summary 11 although the Government's statement with
regard to what is said is not supported by the document
itself
3002 3003
Illegible
Dated February 25 1942.
It's a
internal memo
Bits and pieces can be read
very illegible
A reference to 3002 is not
the QAMA summary
Manville but it's found in
Illegible
copy of
This is a document RLM would Joe Cox should take note of
like to have a the documents
which RLM wants read off microfilm This appears to be
March which
29 1948.
talks about
It's a four or five circulation of factual
page document information to
the medical community time but we definitely
microfilm
We should not
want to get a
list it at this
legible copy off
3004 3005
Illegible
A one page document which reports on the
visit of Drs Wright and Gregory of Saranac
The
Government does not make reference to it in their
summaries
Therefore it is questionable whether we
want to obtain a copy of it
Illegible
Not mentioned in Government
RLM would like to obtain a copy of it
summary
but
3006 3007 3009 3010 3011
3012 3013 3014
Illegible QAMA agreed
in Exhibit
According to the Government Summary 9 the to sponsor the study suggested by Dr. Lanza
3000.
Therefore we want to have Joe Cox
obtain a clear copy of 3006
Illegible
Not mentioned in the
It may be that we need to look at
should read them off the meter but
this time
Government summary
3007 and 3008
We
not give to Hood at
Kenneth Smith to Paul Cartier
Should be read off the
meter Summarized at Government 9
Illegible Letter from Kenneth Smith to George Wright
We should pull it and look at it
It looks innocuous
It's not in the Government's index
Not listed on the list given to Hood
It must be
listed
A letter from Paul Cartier on Thetford Clinic
stationery to Dr. Vorwald
the Quebec Asbestos Mine
re Joseph
Gives the
W. Rodrigue of
claim number
Says that at the request of Ivan Sabourin they are
sending histopathological sections of organs for study
and report
Includes his occupational history but
says he had never rayed Rodrique
Says that he
stopped working in 1946 because of dyspnea
He died
October 16 1948.
Note to Jackie copies to
conspiracy litigation team and Jeff Eddy This case
matches up with one that Cheryl has on my Vorwald
files and I believe the Quebec Asbestos Mine was the
name of We must
one of make a
the Quebec Asbestos Corporation mines note to ask Bagenstose about this when
we take his deposition This establishes that Sabourin
was the attorney
indeed the Quebec
for Quebec Asbestos Corporation if Asbestos Mine is part of the Quebec
Asbestos Corporation and that QAC was part of the
Thetford Clinic operation]
Illegible
Internal Manville document
It seems to
have the title Asbestosis
? and so refers to
Thetford
I would like to obtain a better copy of this
but it is not listed in the Government's summary
Illegible
December 1948
important Definitely need to
the Government's summary list
document which may be
obtain a copy
It is on
at 10.
It talks about
asbestosis and
saturation etc.
the fibrosis reduced to oxygen
Joe Cox
Please make an effort to
get RLM a copy
Not on the 1949 from
Government's list but is a report of January
George Wright to Ivan Sabourin
It's
probably of some importance RLM would like to obtain
a copy however it should not be listed as an exhibit
3015
3016 3017 3018 3019
3020
since it's fairly illegible
Wright seems to be
reporting preliminarily on results of the survey
From Cartier to George Wright talking about the three companies of Thetford wanting to continue the study because their part of the strike is over but that
the strike was not over at Canadian Manville We
cannot list this document at this time but I want Joe
to obtain a clear copy for me as it is virtually
illegible
Attached to 3015 is a transmittal letter
from Cartier to Ken Smith transmitting the letter from
Cartier to Dr. Wright This establishes of course a pattern of internal and external communication
Kenneth Smith to Paul Cartier acknowledging receipt of
3015 and making some discussion about the QAMA
It is
illegible and we should obtain a better copy
It
should not be listed as an exhibit at this time
An extremely important document
Dated October 15
1949 from Vorwald to Kenneth Smith regarding the
feasibility of reviewing ray data of men employed at
Asbestos during the past number of years and reporting
his concern about the relationship between asbestos and
pulmonary malignancy
of this document
It
We definitely need a clear copy
is discussed at Number 13 of the
Government's summary This has already been listed on
list sent to Hood
Smith to Vorwald acknowledging receipt of 3017. It is
legible and has been listed with Hood This says Smith
wants to cooperate and he states that perhaps they
would be interested in getting the Thetford Clinic to
also cooperate
Vorwald wants to look at films to see
if there's cancer
January 3 1950.
From Vorwald to Kenneth Smith
proposing an outline for the ray study of
and asbestosis
He asks five questions
lung cancer
the total
number of cases in the files how many have asbestosis
how many have shadows suspicious for cancer how many
have proven cancer and how many cases have been proven
by autopsy
There's a typed unsigned version and a
version on Trudeau Foundation stationery which is
signed
This document is on the list to Hood
It is
discussed at Government summary 13
January 28 1950.
From Kenneth Smith to Lindell
President of Canadian Manville
It is an
extremely important document and we need to obtain a
better copy
It is discussed at Government summary 14
Letter marked confidential re pulmonary malignancy
There has been a tremendous increase in the
3021
number of articles in medical journals during the past
year which deal with the subject of occupational
-- -- --Ve--ry high on the list of cases of
environmental or occupational cancer is asbestos
There seems to be increasing proof that asbestos fibers
do cause lung cancer
This conclusion is drawn only
from articles reported in the journals and having
carefully studied these writings I do not feel
satisfied that their conclusions are just
I have been unable to find any ray evidence of
lung cancer among Our practitioners and the local but this is not important
employees ? know
because the
The local of no cases
diagnosis of
malignancy seldom is made outside a hospital or a central clinic such as we operate here Additionally
in Thetford I saw seven cases of pulmonary cancer
These are probably not due to dust exposure but this whole subject could cause our companies unlimited
embarrassment and untold expense if labor leaders made
use of our limited knowledge of the subject
I strongly recommend that we should endeavor to learn more about the relationship of asbestos and
pulmonary cancer
If we
? courts we must have
are to
proof
defend ourselves in the
Today the evidence is
in our favor although I believe that a satisfactory
series of experiments would establish evidence more
suitable to us
I believe that we should discuss this
matter at a QAMA meeting and if action on the subject
is approved would recommend that the QAMA the Trudeau laboratory at Saranac Lake to
should ask outline a
suggested plan of study
consideration
Dr. Cartier
and and
action I agree
for
on
QUI
this
subject
Thetford
and the
he has recommended to his companies in consideration of advice and help from
Saranac Lake
A copy is shown to Hugh Jackson
This
document is on the list to Hood
This is an important document
It is summarized at
Government 14 but they missed
This is difficult to read
the most important part
From Kenneth Smith to
Lindell dated January 28 1980 copy
Also stamped confidential
Entitled
to Hugh Jackson
Notification of
Occupational Diseases
You will recall that at the
January 23 1950 the Associatiwoans
provincial health regulations require
QAMA meeting on
informed that new all physicians to
report all patients
cases of occupational diseases among their Asbestosis is included in the list of
notifiable disease I outline my reasons for believing
that the diagnosis of asbestosis should be made only in
the presence of a an adequate of history of exposure
3022
b positive and typical ray shadows c physical disability
I also stated that while discussing these
regulations Division of
with Dr. F. J. ? the Director of Industrial Hygiene for theProvince he
the had
requested me to notify all cases who had only very
early ray evidence of dust
sentences are illegible but
exposure Next two this is an extremely
important document My recommendation for the present
is to do nothing about these notifications
I
discussed the matter with Dr. Cartier of Thetford
The essence of this paragraph is that Cartier andhe
agree that while they want to cooperate with the
provincial government we do not recommend the
notification of these cases present unless all
industries in the province are doing the same thing
We believe that the purpose of this regulation is
to find new cases of occupational disease and then
recommend steps to prevent further exposure
The
'
medical programs of the Asbestos and Thetford clinics
would be possible through the government's ?
Because of our ? for case finding and prevention of
asbestosis we do not want to have this industry unduly
penalized
This could happen if we notified all cases
as requested Our recommendation is to cooperate with
the Division of Industrial Hygiene
Next sentence is
illegible It says it should be reviewed at the next
QAMA meeting
Dr. Cartier and I would agree that we
would appreciate an invitation to be present when the
matter is discussed
It's crucial that we get a copy
of 3021. Please expedite
January 30 1950.
From Cartier to Vorwald re cancer
and to
asbestos factors
Hood
Cartier
It is probably not on the list
expresses desire to continue
cooperation in the study of cancer in the asbestos industry and provides additional details He says " want to say that from nine cases of tumors of the lungs
one case was a bronchogenic cyst confirmed by
successful operation and histological study and eight
cases of cancer confirmed by autopsy from 1946 to 1949
I hope to be able to give you as soon as possible some
statistical tables and a short summary on each case
He then goes on to say that Ken presumably Kenneth
Smith and myself will propose at the next Asbestos
Association meeting that you be authorized to do some
research work on this problem which is presenting an
increasing actuality at least in the medical
literature
This should be listed on Hood's list
immediately A better copy needs to be obtained
3023 3024
3025 3026
January 30 1950.
From Cartier to Smith enclosing
3022.
3023 is listed
Attached is a copy of 3022 and
obviously was a copy that Cartier sent to Smith of his
letter to Vorwald
February 1 1950.
An extraordinarily important
document
It does not appear on the Government index
It must be immediately listed and given to Hood FIOM
Kenneth Smith to Foster and Lindell regarding the
Saranac report
He refers to the Saranac animal
studies and that he sent a report and recommendations
covering this subject March 18 1949 at the same
time I reviewed the Saranac report at a QAMA meeting
He then refers to Woodard replying to a letter and
commenting upon his report in a letter to you dated
April 15.
Obviously either 1948 or 1949.
In that
previous report he recommended that the air at the
mines and at Thetford should be sampled and studied for
fiber links
We need to have a copy of this document
to see if it's 1948 or 1949.
Cheryl
Please look
through index and find when it was reported that
Kenneth Smith had analyzed the draft report which was
later edited
RLM believes it was in the Spring of
1949 but is not sure He goes on to say that he also
recommended for
that the Saranac Laboratory outline
the association of asbestosis and cancer
a study
He then
goes on to say that he wants to correlate the animal
experiments with the human data which is being
compiled
He said he would report to him when the
final Saranac report is received
February 7 1950. Smith to Page Woodard with copies to
a number of people including Hugh Jackson Not in the
Government's summary
It's an important internal
Manville document referring to a newspaper article He
goes on to talk about lung cancer being considered an
occupational disease in some industries
He says as
far as M is concerned As far as M is concerned I
know of two hazards in our operations which may lead to
pulmonary malignancy namely asbestos and silica
There is ever increasing evidence in the medical
literature today that these materials lead to lung
cancer
He says he has no reason to believe it could
not exist although he hasn't seen it in his operations
He then again lobbies for experimental studies and
epidemiological studies to determine whether or not a
hazard exists and if it does what we can do to
prevent it
Need a copy of this obtained from the
Government List on the amended list to Bobby Hood
February 7 1950.
Internal Manville memo from Smith to
McCaw with copies to Lindell and Woodard re
asbestosis Dr. Merrewether
He's discussing the
latest issue of the Canadian Medical Association
3027 3028
Journal and the article that was written by Dr.
Merrewether which we previously have and which is
listed on our exhibit list
He lauds Merrewether as
one of the world's foremost authorities on asbestosis
He says it is unfortunate that his conclusions do not
agree with our experience in Canada
He talks about
Merrewether's statement that a few months exposure to
asbestos this has
dust in gross will invariably cause death but
not been their experience in Canada
He then
talks about tuberculosis
In the fourth paragraph he
says Concerning the relationship between asbestosis
an lung cancer I have no comment
The two conditions
are known to exist but before we can draw any valid
conclusions we must have adequate experimental evidence
combined with agree with international
our operating experience He goes on to
Merrewether that we need to have
standards for diagnosis and says that in
Europe the standard for diagnosis is less stringent
than it is in the Canadian operations He says that's
probably why
do He then
they diagnosis more asbestosis goes on to postulate that there
than we
are more
severe and greater numbers of cases in manufacturing
processes than in mining and milling processes
He
promotes the recommendations of reviewing all ray
files and correlating them with work histories of the
men
I believe that we would find the evidence
conclusively in favor of
it should be published
Some authorities such as
company interest and if so
Second he says the study by the Saranac Laboratory should
be started in order to find a possible relationship
between asbestosis and lung cancer This is not listed
by the Government and should the old exhibit list against going to list it against all
at Government's summary 18.
be listed by us
It's on
Manville but now we're
the conspirators Listed
Jackie and others on the
team should to say that
take note of
if the study
quick the fact that Smith is
is in favor of the company's
interest it should be published This is of course
in line with their practice and must be considered in
light of the fact that they go forward in these studies
with the Thetford people ]
February 8 1950.
Sabourin to Cartier
He says he received
believe this to be
Conspiracy document from Ivan
re cancer and asbestos factors
Cartier's letter of January 30. I
a copy of 3022 from Cartier to
Vorwald previously indexed Sabourin refers to
Lanza's being made the head of an important cancer
research foundation and that he should secure some
observation from Lanza by correspondence
is writing Dr. Lanza
He says he
A better copy of 3027 Government's summary
Listed at paragraph 15 of the
3029 3030 3031 3032
3033 3034
Illegible
attached to
Seems it is
to be somewhat out of kilter because another copy of the same letter and
what looks like an outline
Need to have Joe Cox
obtain a better copy Not listed on the Government's
index
Illegible
Cox needs
Not listed to obtain a
as a Government exhibit
Joe
copy A letter from Smith to
George Wright with a copy to Cartier It merely shows
the post interconnection between the QAMA members
February 20 1950.
Not on
Should be provided to Bobby
Smith acknowledging receipt of
the Government's list
Hood
From Vorwald to
his letter of February 7
talking
studies
about where should be
the dust supplies for the animal
obtained
breathing zone of
workers
Also discusses terminology serpentine and
chrysotile and sends a copy to Paul Cartier
bottom it looks like a cc Ivan Sabourin
At the
March 16 1950. Should be on the Government's list but
is not
It is from Woodard to Kenneth Smith regarding
asbestosis - Dr. Merrewether
He says it would seem
logical to carry out
asbestosis at Saranac
the investigation of cancer and
inasmuch as Saranac has done work
in the past both with continuing to do 50.
debates whether Saranac
animals This is should do
and people and is
a memorandum which
the study or whether
the study should be done by Dr. William Smith in New
York
He says he wants he and Dr. Cartier to come to
look at the facilities in New York themselves He says
A. R. Fisher believes the proposed program is an
important one and that asbestos
the same
This is an important
be provided to Hood
It's
standpoint of again establishing
management will feel
document which should
important from the
the link between M
and the QAMA]
Illegible Joe Cox should obtain a better copy
March 22 1950. Exceedingly important document From
Vandiver Brown to Ivan Sabourin It does not appear on
the Government index
It is important when read in
conjunction with the 1949 Kenneth Smith unpublished
survey of men in dusty trades which was on our exhibit
list a long time ago
It should also be read in
conjunction with
discussion of the
the documents
receipt of the
accompanying the original unedited
Braun study
Both of these documents indicate
that it was the intention of the asbestos industry in
Quebec to underreport asbestosis to the Canadian
government See previous analysis regarding this from
the previous document
It appears that the asbestos
industry in Canada including the QAMA members
underreported
caught doing report which
the incidence
to the
this by posed a of lung
government
Dr. Braun
on purpose
They were
in his 1957 unedited
problem to them
If you compare
cancer with the reported cases of
asbestosis there was a than one would normally
higher incidence of lung expect however if you
cancer
looked
at the real cases of asbestosis reported and
unreported there explains why they
was no excess
eliminated this
incidence
This
whole section from
the published version
Letter from Brown to Sabourin with copies to Kenneth
Smith and other Manville officials
He refers to a
letter from Dr. Smith to Lindell dated January 28
3020 and advised that in his opinion compliance
with the provincial health regulations for reporting
occupational diseases would require cases of asbestosis
to be reported only in the presence of history rays
and physical disability
He said that he understood
Sabourin concurred in this opinion and that the matter
was discussed at a QAMA meeting where it was agreed
that all members of the industry would be guided by these principles in reporting cases of asbestosis He
then goes on to say that Sabourin discussed this with him last week and that he confirmed that it was
Sabourin's opinion that the adoption of this procedure would comply with the public health regulations He then says however that an argument might be made
that we should report cases where only A and B were
present
Nevertheless it was your opinion our
position was clearly defensible and the only reasonable
interpretation that could be placed upon the
regulations He then goes on to say that Page Woodard
discussed this with Dr. Lanza in their proposed method
of compliance Dr. Lanza agreed that A and B should be present but objected to C if it was susceptible to the interpretation that there should be total
disability before a report would be made
He hedged
his opinion however by stating that it was primarily a matter of interpretation of a regulation established
pursuant to Quebec law and that the administrative practice in the interpretation placed upon the rule by Quebec counsel would in the last analysis provide the
answer He then said that if physical disability was
i interpreted to mean manifestation of impairment of
normal physical functions as may be noted objectively
and clinically by observation he would feel no hesitancy in stating that the proposed method of
compliance was satisfactory
The last paragraph says Page and I are inclined to
believe that you and Dr. Smith intended that the
requirement of C would be met by something less than total disability and we would appreciate your
3035
3036 3037
confirming this to us and whether the definition of physical disability would be the approximate yardstick that would be applied This document must be placed
on our index and given to Hood
From Kenneth Smith to Vandiver Brown re 3034.
It's
shoul bedlisted and a copy given to Hood Copy went
to Ivan Sabourin
It said Your interpretation of
physical disability regarding Item C is correct The
appropriate definition that he suggested is most
It
was never my intention to wait until a man is totally
disabled before considering him as suffering from
asbestosis " The reason this is important is that it
establishes a QAMA industry practice similar to
that practiced by Kenneth Smith in 1949 in his report
of men in dusty trades
It will be recalled that in
said document the old mule theory was promulgated of
telling people that they had an occupational disease
Smith advocated not telling people they had early
asbestosis but waiting until they became totally
disabled and then telling them]
Note to Jackie Rion In reading through Chapter 3 of
Barry Castleman's second edition there are references to correspondence from Sabourin to Dr. Leroy Gardner in
his attempts to edit the way that Gardner wrote his
medical legal opinions We should incorporate that in
our summaries
Cheryl
Include this on the document
index and look for any other conspiracy
documents which we can place at the feet of the QAMA
members]
Should be listed From Woodard to McCaw with copies to
Vandiver Brown and Kenneth Smith re 3034
He says
that Smith felt the Ministry of Health might have a
different idea and might have thought that reports
early should be made even upon
ray evidence but he
thengoes on to say Smith is in touch with a doctor at
the Division of Industrial Hygiene on a regular basis
certainly and believes that the practice
satisfactory
This document
way It's
susceptible
he proposes will be
can be argued either
to the inference that
Smith thought he could exert influence of an undue
nature upon the Director of Industrial Hygiene ]
April 10 1950.
Cartier to Ken Smith
letter from Cartier to Sabourin which is
enclosing a
attached and
dated April
to Sabourin
10
is
1950.
The attached letter from
illegible in certain respects
Cartier on the
first page and a legible copy must be obtained This
is a most important document and establishes the close
relationship between Thetford and Manville in regard to
the imminent Saranac cancer study
The Government
summarizes this document at paragraph 15.
It's re
3038 3039
cancer and the asbestos factor Cartier states that he
has had occasion to discuss this matter with Vorwald
Smith and with the Governors of the Thetford Industrial
Clinic at a recent meeting Paragraph 1 is about the
necessity of a study of cancer in the asbestos industry He refers to the great deal of publicity in the medical literature and at the medical meetings on a
possible relationship between cancer of the
the asbestos factor
He then says that
lung
some
and
men
citing Vorwald Gardner and what looks to be do not want to recognize such a relationship
Hinshaw
for lack
of objective evidence
They all wish a complete
in study rest is illegible He then states that they
have had eight lung cancer cases the Thetford mines
since 1946
On the second page he lauds the Saranac Laboratory as
having a universal reputation on diseases of the lungs especially related to occupational factors He says
that we have received in the past the best friendly profitable and generous help from the staff of this laboratory He then says that Vorwald has manifested
special interest in doing such a study and that he
told him recently that he regretted deeply that such
study had not been already realized seeing the right opportunity and in French it seems to be which comes
first the chicken or the egg rest is illegible
He then says that the New York Memorial Cancer Hospital
cancer hasa worldwide reputation and that they have performed
work on occupational for Standard Oil Company
and that Standard Oil believes that they have the
facilities for accomplishing first class work He then
ends by by both
suggesting that there be a collaborative study institutions remembering that the results
must be fairly accepted by the experimental
governmental and labor bodies
Kenneth Smith to
Wright It is of
that Thetford and
Cartier
marginal
Manville
regarding a visit by George significance except to show cooperated and collaborated
April 18
should be
1950.
listed
Not listed by the Government but
here with a copy to Hood
It is
Vorwald to Kenneth Smith re asbestosis and
Merrewether It reports he just returns from Australia
where he talked to Merrewether who said he write the
Canadian Medical Journal article hurriedly and that he
takes
goes
storm
strong exception to some of on to say Paul Cartier
which is brewing in Quebec
the statements
He
tells me of another
this time concerning
a case of asbestosis with cancer
I am most anxious to
the get on survse urvy ey of all data available on the
subject before the storm really breaks
As you know
fishing is always best just before rather than
3040 3041 3042 3043 3044
3045
immediately after the storm
and I know that you are also
contribute
Paul is ready to help more than willing to
Marginal importance and should not be listed except in the Metropolitan Life series It merely indicates that Lanza is interested in discussing the cancer study with Cartier and Smith Attention Andy Berly This may be important in regard to establishing authenticity in
that it sets forth Lanza's address at University
Bellview Medical Center and his phone number which
should be easily confirmable
In conjunction with 3040.
It's not on the Government
list and must be given to Hood
From Smith to Paul
Cartier about 3040.
It sets forth that they are to go
to see Lanza that they discuss whether the QAMA is going to do the study or whether M is going to do the
study
June 7 1950. listed in the
An important document This is not
Government exhibits
From McCaw of
Manville to Woodard of Manville with copies to Smith
and Lindell
Refers to the fact that Drs Smith and
Cartier are going to be in New York to meet with Lanza
and reports that the subject of cancer of the lungs was discussed at the QAMA meeting last Monday June 1950
and the Association went on record as favoring a
cancer research program
Not on the Government index and is of no
From William Smith M.D. to Kenneth Smith
matters related to research and to asbestos
importance discussing
and cancer
June 19
listed on
1950.
An important document which must be
the Government index and a copy sent to Hood
From Kenneth Smith to McCaw with copies to Lindell
Fisher and Woodard re pulmonary malignancy
It
reports that Cartier and Smith visited Lanza and met with William Smith and discussed the type of studies
should that
Saranac
be done
They then visited Vorwald at
Lake on June 13 1950 and asked him to submit
a program similar to that of Dr.
at this date impossible to select
Lanza between
He says it's
the two
He
then says it is advisable first to study our people who
live and work in the dust and not rely exclusively on
animal studies although they are important
June 19 1950.
An important document which is
illegible
Needs to be listed on the Government index
and has not been listed to Hood Joe Cox must obtain a
better copy
Letter from Paul Cartier to the Asbestos
Corporation Limited re pulmonary cancer and the
asbestos industry
It's to Mr. Pinhale
He reports
3046 3047
3048 3049 3050
that he and Ken Smith met with Dr. Smith Dr. Lanza
and Dr. Nelson in New York and that they discussed the
work that would need to be done to investigate asbestos
and cancer
They talked about an epidemiological
study
They also talked about an experimental study
He concludes that he thinks the epidemiological study
is more important but RLM can't read the document very
well
He sends the
Johnson and a Smith
copy
RLM
to three people -- Sabourin
does not know who Johnson and
Smith are affiliated with
It appears that the issues
will come down to whom they can control the best and
we know who that will be
Not listed in Government index
From Woodard to
Kenneth Smith with copies to other Manville people
Internal Manville document which indicates that
apparently there is some concern that facility does not have dusting rooms and rooms will soon be built at his facility
It is of marginal importance at this time
copy must be obtained before we decide to
Dr. Lanza's
that dusting
in New York but a better list it
July 28 1950.
An important
listed on the Government index
document which is not This document needs to
be given to Hood From George Foster to J. P. Woodard reporting that Sabourin and Foster have been requested by the QAMA to prepare a report dealing with the cancer research project for the Association He says that in
a recent issue of Newsweek there was a statement that
asbestos causes cancer of the lung
We should
Robyn to the library to look at 1950 from July 28
and see under science or medicine whether she can
send back find
a report that asbestos causes cancer
He says he
wants the advise of Lanza and Vorwald and it is his
feeling at
foundation
this He
time that then talks
they should use the Saranac about the cost of doing the
research and wants to present the report in the middle
of October 1950
August
Hood
17 1950.
Should be listed and a copy
From Woodard to Foster responding
given to
to 3047
attaching a letter of June 19
McCaw which is exhibit 3044.
from Kenneth Smith to
It suggests that they
keep in touch with Lanza consistency of the documents and
It shows
receipt of
internal
previously
forwarded letters and memos
August 21 1950.
Marginal
From Woodard to Foster
referring to a QAMA meeting September 20 and
discussions he had with Lanza Cartier etc. Important
only from the standpoint of continuity of
correspondence and internal consistency
August 23 1950
Not on the Government's list and
3051 3052 3053
should be provided to Hood Important only from the
standpoint of showing the continuum coopertion between
Cartier and Smith
On Thetford Industrial Clinic
stationery Says Cartier Sabtoo uSar boi urn in about the
research on cancer project and it was agreed that a research program should be organized trying to get the coopertion of the more capable bodies and that the two
of them should meet as soon as possible
August 25 1950. From Lanza to Drs Cartier and Smith
This is not on the Government's list and should be on
our list Lanza's recommendatoti Caortniesr and Smith regarding the studies He suggestasn epidemiological
study and an animal study although he is negative
about the animal study from the standpoint of questions
about reliability He suggests implantation studies
before they do inhalation studies
Before the
epidemiological study he plants He suggests that
inhalation studies and
suggests that they visit the they defer definite plans for that they begin studies by
implantation immediately There are several copies of
this memo in the file some of which bear handwriting
with the name Woodard on it
Not on the list Kenneth Smith to McCaw with copies to
Lindell and Foster
He says that he went to Thetford
and discussed plans for the cancer study with Dr.
Cartier
They believe that an epidemiological or
statistical study is important
He refers to the
studies of Merrewether and Huper and say those are
autopsy studies
He suggests that an autopsy study
would be easy to carry out would not be costly and
could be done in three or four months and that there
are capable people in Canada who can conduct the study
from Dr. he August 31 1950
Not on the list
It's an extremely
important document
From Kenneth Smith to McCaw with
copies to Lindell and Foster
It is regarding
pulmonary malignancy and is regarding the letter and
contract received Lanza
He makes reference
Carti Care tir er and Lanza had discussed the program
although the second sentence is illegible
An
epidemiological study animal experiment consisting of
inhalation and implantation
Smith still advocates
that the statistical study could be carried out by
Canadian experts and
studies would be from
he advocates the best inhalation the Saranac Laboratory The last
paragraph is extremely important
The contract
if appears to leave little choice to the donor the
results of the study are unfavorable to company
interest and are submitted for publication However I fail to see how they can find anything more unfavorable than that which already has been published by
Merrewether and Huper RM comment This proves that
3053 3054 3055 3056
3057
respecting this project the conspirators were motivated by having the opportunity to edit prior to publication
The QAMA subsequently selected of course Saranac]
Also has the Lanza to Cartier and Smith letter attached
to it as well as the agreement
The agreement is
totally illegible and Joe Cox should endeavor to
obtain a copy as soon as possible as Ithink it will
to is evidence that the New York University retained the
right
publish This probably why they selected
Saranac instead of New York University This again is
not on Government's index and must be listed and
copies provided to Hood
September 1 1950. Marginal importance From Woodard to Fisher copy to Hugh Jackson enclosing Dr. Lanza's proposal It is important only from the standpoint of having me authenticate the documents through Jackson
September 7 1950.
An interesting document which is
not on the Government's list
It's from Kenneth Smith
to a Dr. Warwick Illegible Joe Cox should obtain a
copy of this document from the Government is with the National Cancer Institute
Dr. Warwick of Canada
Apparently the letter from Smith to the asking for the name of an epidemiologist to
doctor is
help QAMA
with an epidemiological study
Not on the Government's list
It should not be on our
list at this time
It's from Warwick to Smith
acknowledging receipt of his letter 3055 that he agrees an epidemiological study might
He says
serve a
useful purpose in forming a basis for a long range
research program
So far a the Workmen's
Compensation Act
that there is no
is concerned I think you will agree concrete evidence at the present time
to support or disprove the contention that there may be
a relationship between asbestosis and bronchogenic
carcinoma
He then refers to the fact that they have
a Dr. A. J. Institute
Phillips
who may
working for the National Cancer be a good person to do the
epidemiological study
September 21 1950. Not on the Government's list It must be listed and given to Hood This is an extremely
important document It's a asbes ontasobessti oss is and
by pulmonary cancer to the QAMA by the Saranac Laboratory
signed Arthur Vorwald starts off with general
remarks about lung cancer and compounding variables
It says evidence regarding many of them however although frequently contested is sufficiently serious
to warrant extensive epidemiological and experimental
investigation Huper Lynch
Asbestos dust is in this category Merrewether etc. and the asbestos
3058
industries in Quebec are in a unique position to pursue
these epidemiological investigations The report
bears marginal notations by someone obviously one of
conspirator's the
conspirator's doctors Dr. Vorwald points out that
smoking is an important variable He suggests clinical
and statistical data reviews autopsy studies ray
study and death certificate studies With respect to
the experimental studies he advocates that
experimental studies are a very proper and sound way of
determining whether or not asbestos is a carcinogen
He debunks the intratrachial injection technique which
might lead to unwarranted conclusions
He suggests
both an inhalation and intratrachial method
He states
that it will take at least two years and maybe five
years of continuous exposure to dust with mice before
there can be any conclusive evidence on page 10
He
says that progress reports will be issued from time to
time
On page 11 paragraph 15 is extremely
important
It's entitled Publications of Results of
Investigations
It reads as follows
The Saranac
Laboratory reserves the right to publish theresults of
its investigations in the recognized manner commonly
employed by the scientific fraternity and in accordance
with established practices whereby the manuscript prior to its publication is submitted to the sponsoring
company for its review and approval To the right is
writing someone's
someone's Kenneth Smith's
which
writing
says
looks
OK
This may be
September 25 1950.
Not on the Government's list and
should be placed on the list and given to Hood It is
entitled Report to Quebec Asbestos Mining Association
re Pulmonary Cancer Unfortunately it does not bear
a signature as to
copies of it The
who prepared it
There are two
second copy is legible
The first
paragraph is entitled Problem
is a relationship between the dust and pulmonary cancer has
certain health authorities and
To ascertain if there
inhalation of asbestos
been stated publicly by
is in certain magazines
of wide coverage It is necessary for us prove that this statement is not correct
it and the consequences that go with it
to be able to
or to accept Our position
in this matter is the same as the Association and
Industry found itself in 1937 as regards to
asbestosis
It was recommended that there be two programs
A short
range program and a long range program
The short
range program would be an epidemiological study under
the auspices of a statistician
They say the
statistician should be if possible a Canadian Under
the short range program it is said the United States
Public Health and Cancer Research Dr. Merrewether and
the National Cancer Institute have all published that
there is a relationship between asbestos dust and
pulmonary cancer
It goes on to criticize the
published statements because they are based on
statistical data no research has been done and these
statistical data are based only on death statistics
They say the short range program is recommended by their own medical officers and they cite three reasons
that statistical information cited above is not
confirmed in their opinion and their workmen be the
statistical surveys the most rapid cheapest and more
conclusive than any other method and we'd be using the
same methods as our antagonists They say that they
need a statistician and an ray consultant but that
Dr. Smith and Dr. Cartier could survey as consultants
with Saranac reporting on borderline cases.
The
estimated cost was 4,000 and it would take 4 months
It said that when the presence of neoplasm in an
individual is suggested by this technique he should be
further studied with the purpose of establishing or
excluding this diagnosis with certainty
Then they
talk about cigarette smoking being the most important
variable factor in the epidemiological study proposed
This page is are the next
straight out of
several pages
the Saranac proposal as Going back to the first
-- it was illegible but does not include the
excerpts from the Saranac proposal
After the short
range progam there's a page with scribbling which is
totally illegible Joe Cox needs to obtain a copy from
the Government
The next page is long range program
This program
would consist of a research program and they suggest
the transplanting
of Lanza and his
of living tissues under the guidance group utilizing the facilities of
Saranac and subjecting animals to high asbestos dust condition They then suggest considering the formation
of an institute for industrial chest diseases with
other mining associations
There's handwriting which
no to this Under the long range program on the
says
next page is third phase
They say that a third
phase should be developed
That phase would consist
of more publicity coming from our Association than has
in the past rather than taking the defensive attitude
that we have
We would point out that Dr. Paul Cartier and Portugal regarding the
has been published in France
incidence of heart disease and tuberculosis in the
asbestos industry but there has been no publication to
our knowledge dealing with this subject on this
continent
It is recommended that more of next line
is illegible we need a copy at least one yearly
dealing with the ?
It is vital that Joe Cox obtain a
copy of this document
That we arrange to have our
doctors lecture at medical schools yearly That we
Ly
3059 3060
attempt to affiliate our
research centers such
doctors in some manner with as Saranac and in such
organizations as the Industrial Hygiene Association and
the Institute of Industrial Medicine as clinicians in
the asbestos industry
In this manner we feel that we
would combat reports which we believe with
information at hand to be erroneous
We believe
the that
publicity
erroneous
on the part of reports such as
our institute would combat Martien ? made in Thetford
recently when he quoted official report of the
from what he reported to be an Third International Conference
on Pneumoconiosis
This report has not yet been
issued The pages are out of sync as the next page is
long range program 2 where they
Saranac to do inhalation studies
talk about hiring Long range proposal
1 is transplanting living tissue of an embryo mouse
with fibers implanted into a
this would be considered to be
living only a
mouse
They say
screening This
is an exceedingly important document
It establishes
their concern about publicity and certainly plants the
seeds of the conspiracy to promote bogus medical
reports in the literature at the universities and with
the government officials
It also establishes their
adversarial role with respect to government agencies ]
September 25 1950. Needs to be added to Hood's list
From Smith to McCaw with a copy to Lindell re
pulmonary malignancy
Smith reports that he and
Cartier went to Saranac and discussed the proposal with
Dr. Vorwald
He says they then went to Montreal and
presented the
recommendations to
Saranac proposal and
G. K. Foster
He says It
their is our
belief that the two lines of research should be
followed
The first being a statistical study which
he hopes to get his friend at the National Cancer Institute of Canada to help with and the other being
at the the animal study at Saranac He then says Foster
to summarize a program and make his recommendations to
the QAMA October There are two copies
of the report The second copy of this reflects that a
copy went to Lanza and Hugh Jackson
The second copy
has handwritten notes to the bottom October 9 1950
October 1 1950. Not on the Government's list Arthur
Vorwald to Page Woodard
This is a proposal by the
Saranac Laboratory concerning an investigation of
asbestos and submitted to Mr. Kenneth
pulmonary cancer
you at the request
Smith
I need a
This proposal is being
of Dr. Paul Cartier and clear copy of the first
page of the proposal as it has some handwritten notes The proposal is dated September 21 1950 and is obviously concordant with the time expressed in Exhibit 3059 Smith to McCaw It says approved at meeting in
Saranac Lake
Dates are illegible and copies to are
3061 3062 3063 3064
3065
illegible
Cancer to
The proposal is Asbestosis and Pulmonary the Quebec Asbestos Mining Association
Accomplished at the right margin
Proceed two
lines under it
This appears to be similar if not
identical to the previous proposal which RLM
summarized
Paragraph 15 is a publication of results
of the investigation section
Previous copy of this
report is 3057
October 5 1950. Illegible Joe Cox needs to
legible copy
From Kenneth Smith to Johnson
copies to Fisher Woodard McCaw etc.
obtain a ? with
October Woodard
6
to
1950. Lanza
Needs to be listed on with a copy to Jackson
Hood's list Handwritten
notes at the bottom are illegible We need to obtain a
better copy
Woodard says in this Dear Tony
Attached is a proposal prepared by Saranac along with
a letter of October 4 from Art Vorwald 3060
He
says before he does anything further with this he wants
to hear from Lanza
Of marginal importance Copy of letter from Woodard to Vorwald acknowledging receipt of his October 4 letter and his program for the investigation of asbestos and pulmonary cancer saying he should hear from them soon
Not on the Government's list and needs to be added
From Woodard to Fisher re asbestos and pulmonary
cancer
He attaches Dr. Vorwald's proposal
George
Foster's report to the QAMA dated September 25 1950
This is the one that RLM didn't know who wrote which
has the long range short range proposal the proposal
for the creation of an institute and the proposal that
the Industry doctors lecture at medical universities]
-- -- says they should make the best possible
epidemiological study and mentions Hemeon's name
He
suggests
first and
expense estimateosn
second at Saranac
He
the years beyond the
talks about Item 15 of
the Saranac proposal on publication This appears to
be alright but it would be desirable f
representatives from Saranac would not make talks
before groups bringing on information about the
investigation that is not yet ready for publication
As you recall this has been done in the past and
possibly cannot be prevented
He then says with
regard to Foster's report It seems to me that the
of idea putting out truthful counter propaganda
good one in order to counteract some of the
is a wild
statements on the other side
October 26 1950.
Listed by the Government
From
Fisher to Foster with copies to Sabourin and Woodard
Refers to the QAMA meeting at Sky Top Pennsylvania on
3066 3067 3068
3069 3070
October 23 where the directors agreed to the second
part of the program to be conducted at Saranac
It is
unclear whether they are talking about continuing to meet on the statistical aspect of the study or whether
they approved
will meet with
it also
It also says
all of them in Saranac
that Dr. Lanza to discuss it
further
October 27 1950.
Not on the Government's list but
should be
From Woodard to Vorwald with copies to
Lanza Fisher Sabourin and Foster confirming a conversation with Ms. Blinn that morning and says that Sabourin et al will be at Saranac on November 7 to
review the proposed asbestos research program It also
appears that Lanza will be in attendance
Not on the Government's list and should be made part of
Hood's list
Kenneth Smith to Executive Director of
the National Cancer Institute telling him that he and
Cartier were going to visit with him soon and that the
QAMA had just approved a statistical study that he
wanted to discuss with him
Letter from Cartier to Smith regarding a letter he
wrote to a gentlemen Penhale with the Asbestos
Corporation Limited
Attached thereto is a copy of
that letter dated November 6 1950.
Joe Cox needs to
obtain a more legible copy
He's talking about
Merrewether and the fact that the asbestos industry in
Canada needs to sponsor a study in accordance to
previous discussions regarding statistical and animal
studies
November 1950.
Illegible
Joe Cox needs to obtain a
more legible copy From Sutherland to Lanza regarding the standards for diagnosis of asbestosis It looks to
be an important document
Not listed on the
Government's list and should not be listed on Hood's
list at this time
November 7 1950.
An extremely important document
which is not on the Government's list
It is the
mee oft thi e mn eetg ing at Saranac between Lanza
Sabourin Vorwald and Woodard The last two pages are
not legible and I would ask that Joe Cox obtain copies
of them
Until RLM sees the entire document it should
not be listed
It should be a very important document
on the conspiracy count
They again talk about
publication and the need for statisticians
It now
appears certain that QAMA had authorized Saranac to do
both epidemiology and animal studies
The suggestion
made was that Cartier and Smith do an initial screening
of rays and those they find to be of interest would
be sent to Saranac
They make the serving
3071 3072
3073
3074 3075 3076 3077
statement that they
that no question of
want bias
Saranac could be
to supervise this so introduced into such
a procedure
I HAVE NOT COMPLETELY ANALYZED THIS
DOCUMENT BECAUSE THE LAST TWO PAGES ARE EXTREMELY
IMPORTANT]
Marginal interest
November 10 1950.
On the Government's list
From
Woodard to Vandiver Brown re publication of test
results He's concerned about publication of the test
data by Saranac and he said he asked Lanza for some
help and that Lanza suggested the
the University resetrhevre igs ht
the Institute publish results of
paragraph which says
to have members of
the studies but the
copy of the material to be published shall be submitted
to the donor at least 30 its comments or criticism
days before publication
It says the donors will
for not
be identified in the published version
November 15 1950.
Should not be put on Hood's list
Not
re
on the Government list
publication of results
Vandiver Brown to Woodard
Vandiver Brown says I
believe the paragraph quoted about you goes about as
far as we can reasonably expect to learn the scientific
institution can go
We of course have never
intended to suppress information obtained as a result
of experiments financed by us and on the occasion when
we insisted that there be no publication without our
advanced approval we have had in mind that we might possibly wish to defer release until we could make such
defensive defensive
moves as
might
be
appropriate
and
available
us This is a classic statement The defensive
moves include editing out offensive portions]
Lanza to Smith enclosing a copy of a letter from
Sutherland previously identified Should not be put on
Hood's list
Not on the Government's list and should not be put on
the list
From Woodard to Sabourin with a copy to
Fisher re Saranac proposal to QAMA
He essentially
copies Vandiver Brown's memo to him 3073 and includes
the paragraph from Lanza setting forth what the
publishing company can do
He asks that Sabourin
negotiate an agreement with Saranac which incorporates this understanding
Marginal
Should not be listed
authentication
Only goes to
Marginal
Only goes to authentication
Copy of a
letter from Vorwald to Cartier talking about needing
dust for the experiments
3078
3079 3080
3081 3082
Mussina
ae
ane
Mussina Mussina
docum3160
notes
3170 3171 3172 3173 3174 3175
3176
Marginal
Only goes to authentication
Vorwald to
Sabourin with copies to Cartier and Smith talking about
needing a supply of dust
Illegible Joe Cox needs to obtain a legible copy
December 14 1950.
Should be listed
This is an
outstanding document From Bell Asbestos Mines to all
the other members of the QAMA including Asbestos
Corporation Limited Johnson's company Flintkote
Canadian Manville Asbestos Corporation
and Nicolet Asbestos Mines re the QAMA cancer report
and the Saranac proposal
Refers to the Sky Top
meeting and that Mr. Sheppard wanted to take a look at
the report
This encloses a copy of Mr. Sheppard's
analysis not included in our document
Illegible Joe Cox needs to obtain a legible copy
Should be listed
Sabourin to Woodard
proposal to QAMA It refers to Woodard's
favorable parag beria nsep rth ed in
re publication of results Sabourin is
Exhi 307b 5 i datt ed December 4 1950
re Saranac's
desire that a
the contract
replying to
January 2 1957.
Not on the Government's list and
needs to be on our list
From Sabourin to Walmer
enclosing a 20,000 check
~~
It Says Cancer
Epidemiologic Survey QAMA
Marginal importance Should not be on Hood's list
Marginal
contested
Only for authenticity in the event it is
Marginal
contested
Only for authenticity in the event it is
Marginal
contested
Only for authenticity in the event it is
Marginal
Janu 29a1r 95y 7. Should be on the list Transmittal letter from Braun to Truanenclots he i inn terg im report tothe QAMA
February , 1957.
Braun to Sabourin enclosing
interim report to the QAMA This should be listed
the and
provided to Hood
The interim report sets
the purpose of the program which is to
forth again
determine
whether there's a relationship between asbestosis and
lung cancer
between mere
and whether a relationship may exist
exposure to asbestos and lung cancer
It
3177 3178 3179 3180
3181 3182 3183 3184
3185
3186
sets forth the procedures The only significant thing listed in this report is that they've done a bibliographical research which was submitted January 31 and really has no importance
Marginal interest Send copy to Dr. Mancuso
March 8 1957.
Should be listed
Mancuso Braun to Sabourin enclosing
interim report with revisions
and sent to Dr.
ten copies of the
Marginal
review
Copy should be given to Dr. Mancuso for
April 26 1957.
From Holmes of the ATI he's of Asten
Hill Manufacturing Company to Daniel Braun He's
advising Dr. Braun that the ATI had rejected two
proposed studies one was for an environmental dust
survey and the other was for a proposed epidemiological
study of lung cancer in asbestos workers
This
document was previously in evidence but should be
listed and a copy given to Hood
Marginal Marginal
Helps on authenticity Copy should go to Dr. Mancuso
Marginal
June 10 1957.
Should be listed
From Paul Gross to
Kenneth Smith regarding pathology materials as to a
case he is reviewing It shows severe diffuse fibrosis
consistent with asbestosis
There's a cancer in the
lung but he's not sure whether it's metastatic from
the other part of the lung or from another part of the
body He draws no conclusions
June 21 1957.
Not listed in the Government's list or
articles
Should be listed and given to Hood
Paul
Gross from Industrial Health Foundation to Kenneth
Smith have
referring to
asked that
an article that he has submitted I the manuscript be returned for
revision See if this
Part of the letter is illegible
letter was in our Braun exhibits
Cheryl
If not
Joe Cox needs to obtain a copy for us
This shows
that the IHF was habitually sending matters to Kenneth
Smith and others for comments and revising documents
accordingly
July 30 1957. An extremely important document It is
not on the Government's list and must be given to Hood
immediately
Association
Minutes There's a
of the Quebec Asbestos list of the attendees
Mining
One of
the items is worker's compensation Under that item is
3188
the following quotation
Compensation Saranac Research
that the fate of the Trudeau
Item 2.
Worker's
Mr. Sabourin reported
Foundation was still
undecided and consequently the question of the disposal of the Association's records was still
pending Counsel is maintaining communication with the
Foundation Under symposium on pneumoconiosis says the
decision time and location of the syposium is still
pending
It was thought it should not be held until
the Spring of 1958. Counsel was requested to submit a
report as to
this means
taught the information
interesting
expenditures made to date I assume that
that they intend to hold a syposium to
Braun doctored report
Item A the
about Sarnac is most important and
in that the only way to insure that a
conspiracy
It will be date cases for their
is not found out is to destroy the records
recalled that for over 30 years as of that
had been submitted to the Saranac Laboratory
review and for assistance in Worker's
Compensation matters
were QAMA members were
Several of the conspirators who
also ATI members and subscribers
to the original Saranac project These include Turner
and Newall and Manville
Page 2 under Worker's Compensation General is
McIntire Foundation
It was suggested that the
Association should establish closer liason at the
medical level with the McIntire Foundation with respect
to their announcements pertaining to pneumoconiosis
In the absence of such liason it
that their statements of either a
would appear likely general or specific
nature dealing with misconstrued and unjustly
pneumoconiosis might affect the objections of
be the
Association Regular exchange of information would
obviate this difficulty
September 1957. Report of Braun which says Restricted
Copy No. 31. Braun to the QAMA At page 74 he states
that there is a comparison of relative frequency of
lung cancer and asbestosis is less reassuring but we
believe this is because of an underreporting of
asbestosis cases
The incidence of asbestosis
indicated by the medical records is far below that
which would be expected on the basis of all previously
published figures
Naturally when the cases of lung
cancer are compared with an artificially low figure
it's relative incidence will be higher than it should
However this may be 12.5 of the recorded cases of
asbestosis in this state of development of lung cancer a figure slightly lower than those quoted by authors who confine themselves to this type of comparison In the conclusions he says the results suggest that a miner who develops the disease asbestosis does have a
greater likelihood of developing cancer of the lung
3189 3190 3191 3192 3193
3194
than a person without this disease
We suspect
however that underreporting of asbestosis cases had
led to a fallacious finding in this connection This
document is mislisted on the Government's list as 3189
and it should be listed and given to Hood RM
Comments The underreporting certainly comports with
the practices of the QAMA members to downplay the
significance of asbestosis when they made their
statutory required reports to the Quebec government As we'll be seeing from ensuing documents the QAMA
certainly wants to make no reference to this practice ]
September 6 1957.
Has already been provided to Hood
but should be listed on our index
From Braun to
Soutar Secretary of the QAMA inquiring as to how many
copies of the report the Association will require He
reports that it has the number of copies
been that
completed and is they will need
soliciting
October 2 1957. Illegible Joe Cox needs to obtain a
better copy
From Cartier to Braun
Hood should be
given a copy
It reports an interesting article on
bronchogenic carcinoma in the Canadian Services Medical
Journal
Marginal
3190
Braun to Cartier acknowledging receipt of
Should be listed
From Soutar
stationery acknowledging receipt copies of an epidemiological report
copies
to Braun on QAMA
of 30 paperbound and 6 leatherbound
December 18 1957.
Exceedingly important document
Should be listed and a copy provided to Hood
It's
Ivan Sabourin to Grainger the
Chief Medical Officer
of Canadian Manville
Re the IHF survey I am
enclosing a condensation of the survey
I have met
with Dr. Braun
Brook
We have
since our endeavored
last QAMA meeting at Sure to reach a condensation
for publication avoiding references to the called
method of reporting or classifying asbestosis at our
clinics In
conducted for
incidence in
fact the epidemiologic survey is one the purpose of determining the cancer
asbestos workers and not in workers
necessarily suffering from asbestosis He then
goes on to say that they made some changes further in the context regarding smoking habits He then reports that Dr. Braun will be severing his relationship with the IHF and he solicits their thoughts soon
December 30 1957.
to Braun attaching
Smith to Sabourin
Needs to be listed
From Sabourin
a copy of a letter from Kenneth
dated December 30 1957 regarding
3195 3196
30 1957 regarding comments about the survey He says
that he wants him to consider Smith's recommendations
and to see if you cannot arrange to incorporate the
changes if you of course agree with them into the
condensation
This is now a review of the
condensed version and not the original version that
was supplied in earlier December]
In the letter from Smith to Sabourin the first paragraph reads Hugh Jackson and I have reviewed the
condensation of the survey which noted deletion of all references
you sent us
We have
to the association of
asbestosis and lung cancer in the condensation
While
we believe that this information is of
value we can understand the desire
great scientific of the QAMA to
emphasize the exposure of the asbestos miner and not
the cases of asbestosis We are also in agreement with
the deletion of the reference to smoking and lung cancer RM Comment It will be observed that in the
original commission to the IHF they were to answer two
questions that is whether there was an increased risk
of lung cancer among those exposed to asbestos
secondly whether there was an increased risk of
cancer among those who have asbestosis
That's
and lung
when
they receive a report that confirms the second but not
the first they decide to eliminate it Smith goes on
to say that the report will be subjected to criticism
when published
Because all of the authors today
correlate lung cancer to cases of asbestosis
If we
are to restrict this condensation to asbestos miners greater emphasis should be placed on the choice of
words used in defining the cohort
That's fact that
all members exposure to
of the cohort had asbestos should be
five or more reiterated
years of The other
items do not really impact significantly on the editing efforts however they show how meticulously the industry was involved in editing the final report
The next to the last paragraph is important in that
Smith says he agrees with Drs Cartier and Braun that a
certain number of workers probably have some asbestotic
fibrosis which cannot be diagnosed by ray but they cannot do biopsies and therefore the annual study of all exposed asbestos workers becomes increasingly important
Important only with respect to authenticity Telegram to Sabourin saying that Smith had discussed his
suggested changes and that he would probably soon be receiving his letter of December 30
Should not be listed and
but should be given to Dr.
should not Mancuso to
be given to
evaluate
Hood
3197 3198
3199
January 3 1958.
Sabourin to Braun
Should be listed and given to enclosing a condensation so
you may incorporate the proposed amendment
It
again that they
the new year
continued
their
editing
process
Hood that
shows into
January 20 1958.
Needs to be listed
A very
important letter
Cheryl See if this is one of our
Braun exhibits
If not Joe Cox should get a legible
copy From Stokinger the Editor of the AMA Archives
of Industrial Hygiene and Occupational Medicine to
Braun It will be remembered that Stokinger was on the
ACGIH Committee and was very influencial among
those members on setting standards
He says that he
has reviewed their paper and lists the name of it and
that they are pleased to accept it for publication in
the AMA Archives of Industrial Health
It is to be
understood that this is not the first edition nor the
condensed edition but the final edited edition that was
published He says the paper may be too long
The final paragraph is extremely important and bears
reproduction in its entirety I myself was
particularly pleased to learn the main conclusion of
the paper was against the association of lung cancer
with asbestosis This is of course untrue
The
conclusion of the unexpurgated paper was that there was
an association between lung cancer and asbestosis for I had come to a similar conclusion on obviously far
less information but was afraid to say so for this
reason
I am enclosing a review which contains a few
statements that I have marked in this connection that
appears 1956.
in the Annual Review of Medicine Volume 7
Cheryl
Please have Robyn obtain this
article
You will recall at this time evidence
greatly favored the positive correlation of lung cancer
and exposure to asbestosis
Here we have the person
who's involved in setting the standards of exposure to
asbestos and other substances who had written in the
literature that lung carcinogens should be treated
differently from substances which merely disease See my index to TLV matters
cause
chronic
March 19 1958. Should be listed From Cartier to Dr.
Vorwald bearing a received stamp from Dr. Vorwald
Written on Thetford stationery
Dear Doctor Vorwald
Knowing your deep and special interests on this problem
of asbestosis and cancer I am taking the liberty to
lend you this confidential copy of this epidemiologic
study of lung cancer in asbestos mines
He then
solicits his comments It is important to compare page
50 of what was sent to Vorwald with page 74 of the
original version of the precondensed article
What
they sent Vorwald included the elimination of the
section on asbestosis and lung cancer and on the
section dealing with cigarette smoking
I want a
survey done of Vorwald's writings done after 1958 to
determine whether he published on the negative
association between asbestos and lung cancer after that
date
Jackie should follow up on this with Robyn's
assistance]
3200 3201
Is a remarkable document
It is listed on
Hood's list but lets send him another copy
It is obviously circa June 1958 and is Ivan
Sobourin's report to members of the QAMA Re
The Symposium held June 16 17 18 in
Montreal
On the first page he crows about
who all attended including Dr. Marvin
Kushioner and the fact that the Canadian
Broadcasting Corporation and others covered
the event
He said that more than 400
doctors in Hygienist attended
" I do
think that at any time a symposium
not
on
pneumoconiosis and industrial medicine in
industry has
constructive
authority in
gathered a stronger and more array of men and women having the respective fields they
covered and the authority acknowledged based
on their knowledge
He then says that Dr.
Gregory Dr. Wright Dr. Vorwald Dr.
Bristol Dr. Kenneth Smith Dr. Cartiera and
others had occasion to deal with the
pneumoconiosis problem cancer etc. Then on
page 2 he says that Dr. Braun communicated
the results of the epidemiologic survey Re Asbestosis Cancer Incidents exactly at the time when we were having available reprints of the publication which comprises a
condensation of the survey which the IHF made for us under the direction of Dr. Braun
This was very well received The publication
came out that very week and therefore
official knowledge was given to the open
world at the same time we were having our
symposium
that will
this was one of our main targets
be recalled
He then says that
Dr. Vorwald and Dr. Kushioner were present
and agreed that the work was important
On
page 3 paragraph 11 he says public
relations and publicity wise the symposium
was well covered by both the local press and
the scientific press and that a press room
was maintained
He then in paragraph 13
talks about the committee composed of Lindell
and Penhale of the QAMA authorized publicity
of same being tagged openly although with
QAMA being discreetly listed as a sponsor
Appears to be a copy of the article as it was
finally published
It will be noted that
there are notations throughout including page
48 on summaries and conclusions and it looks
like the copy which was written up as a
second condensed copy
I am providing Dr.
Mancuso and Dr. Casselman a copy of 3201 as
3202
well as the publishers in the earlier
versions which was in condensed
I would
like to know an analysis of any difference
between the second and third condensations
We should list 3201 and give a copy although
it has already been listed
Should also been listed
be listed although it has already and we do not need to give Hood
an additional copy
Make sure 3200 was
provided to him and that we also do not have
to give him an additional copy
These are
the meetings of the QAMA - July 21 1958 with
various persons listed as being in
attendance including Sobourin
Part A is
Workmans Compensation Committee - they
report its important workmans compensation
here that under the
committee they report
the research of the epidemiological study by
Dr. Braun and the fact that it was published
in June 1958.
Then they say nothing new is
reported from the Foundation at Saranac
It
was reported about the symposium which was
the subject of 3200 exhibit and it was
recommended that members be provided with the
various Sabouri
papers for the
There was excellent
a motion to thank
job you had done
in organizing and guiding the symposium