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Paul Kotin, H.D. Vice President - Health,
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Johns-r.ar.Yillc Corporation
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Dear Paul:
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'I very teach ar-rcciate the tins you spent with as in New York and your paticr.ca in listening to ay rather lent-winded dissertation cn the needs of the asbestos aroducts industry. "* *
I an convinced that rest of our Berbers would we leone a seed ear cr scr.inars such as I sue .res ted during our reccing. At the risk of "overkill" I an enclosing a copy of cements race at the AJA/?1A Annual Meeting in Septerber. The pertinent para,graphs are narked in red.
.1 have also enclosed a eery of cements =ado at h r.ectint vc had vith Dr. Selikoff in February, 1974. ,1 rode these cements in or. atterrt .to illustrate the plight or the average nanufocruring arnsger in the asbestos products industry who is very largely ignorant of the biological effects of asbestos.
Over SO people, ireiodine several cornany presidents, attended the Selikoff rooting. Following Dr. Solikoff's presentation ar.d departure there wore additional cements and critiques by Ray Murphy and Fhii Enterline.
The response of the ambers hip of the AIA/NA to this r.ectin t was ciccr evidence of the desire rm the nnrt of the r.eabers of the Association -for a closer rel.iticashio with the scientific ccrurunity and for n bettor understanding of the effects cf asbestos. I car. assure yon all of us in the industry' will be very prcteful for ar.y heln-you cm .gave us in continuing this educnticr.nl process and in helping us to .find solutions to the pmblens facing the industry.
Sincerely,
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COMMENT^ Y J. H. MARSH AT AIA/NA A*\'fj VL MEETING September 11, 1974
My comments will be Halted today because I 'a sure you've heard ae enough over the past two years and because we have assembled an outstanding group of sneakers tor the Conference which will began at noon today. Their contents will be aore significant than any I could make."
Rather than reviewing in detail the activities of the past year, I should like to content .on two important objectivesas I perceived then a year or aore ago.
First, the need to coaauni the asbestos health hazard
o the AIA aenbership factual information on
Se J the establishment of AIA as a credible, authorit ive sou: ion, particularly for government regulatory agen ,es.
Vi- . respect to the first poi: t, it became clear to ne seme time ago"there ha been an incredible lack o communication between the scientific camuni 7 ah most of the U.S. asbestos industry. This Tack of commur.ication can bes
be .llustrated by attendance scorns at conferences during the past ter. yea s
1964 - Caen, Franc. .1954 - New York Ac
Meeting of Experts - No U.S :y of Sciences - J/M only
Industry Representatives
1963 - Dresden - J/M only
1971 - London - J/M only
1972 - Lycn - Solcn, Marsh, Swetonic, Sabcurin
1973
Geneva - No representative from U.S. industry - Sole U.S. Representative: George Perkle of the Textile Workers
At all of these meetings our Bri tish coll eagues we e present in The greater superiority British industry oossesses in understate of the asbestos health hazard is no accid
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I hope the programs of the r st year with Drs. Selikoff, Nicholson, Mur -* V */ t
Enterline, Van Acta 2nd the* eview of mortality studies by Matt Swetoni have been helpful in caking up fo that absence of communication and, cogeth the concerer.ce to begin this neon, will serve to create a better unders or the challenges facing the asbestos industry in this country.
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With resoect to the second objective I think we con say without cualificttion that AIA* is firmly established and accepted by the principal government regulatory agencies as 2n authoritative source of information on the asbestos industry. The list of speakers to appear before us this afternoon and tomorrow is clear evidence of that fact.
Thanks to Ed Fenner and his Technical and Stand rds Committee, AIA has made
a significant contribution to the revision of t e CSHA Asbestos Standard, I can assure you the Labor Department is apprec: ative of this effort and that it has contributed greatly to the credabil. ty of our organization.
In addition to cur close contacts at GSKA we are well established 2nd resoected at the Environmental Protection Agency and the Food and Drug Administration--two agencies of vital importance to the asbestos industry.
There have also been contacts too numerous to detail with other Federal agencies such as MESA, FTC, CPSC, NIQSH and others as well as contacts with many government subcontractors working on asbestos matters.
The legislative.a ea has not been neglected. We have visited and have been, in contact with 1 gislators interested in OSKA and the asbestos industry and have attended and monitored House and Senate Oversight Hearings as well as many other nee ir.gs on asbestos matters.
We still have Perhaps most c was nothing mo v;to answer cues'
:ch to do but we have come a long way in the psst year, you don't realise. it, but just a little over a year ago AIA
than a room full of files with virtually zero capability ons or-provide technical or other advice.
We have been most fortunate in having as Executive Director since late .*\ul O
-of last year. Bob Merer.esa, whose experience as a Public Relations Offi r Of
and whose knowledge of the Washington scene have put us on the map. Ai
he joined us with virtually no knowledge of the asbestos industry, his
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up the learning curvehas been extraordinary.
We
also grate
to Mrs. Carol Grant for the most capable handling of
of
matters si:
she joined our organization last October.
The office staff was greatly strengthened by the addition on July 1 of Bob Pigg, whose years of experience as an Administrative Officer will be of great value in freeing 3cb Mereness frcn the demands of office routine and will remit hin to spend his time more productively on government, legislative and other outside contacts.
In summary, we've got a viable, go g operation, far be formerly to serve the membership 0 this association.
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Kith resoect to the second objective I think we can say without qualification that AIA* is firmly established and accepted by the principal government regulatory agencies as an authoritative source of information on the asbestos industry. The list of speakers to appear before us this afternoon and tomorrow is clear evidence of that fact.
Thanks to Ed Fenner and his Technical and Standards Committee, AIA has made a significant contribution to the revision of the CSKA Asbestos Standard. I can assure you the Labor Department is appreciative of this effort and that it has contributed greatly to the credibility of our organization.
In addition to our close contacts at OSHA we are well established and resoected at the Environmental Protection Agency and the Food and Drug Administration--two agencies of vital importance to the asbestos industry.
There have also been contacts too numerous to detail with other Federal agencies such as MESA, FTC, C?SC, NIGSH and ethers as well as contacts with many government subcontractors working on asbestos matters.
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The legislative.area has not been neglected. We have visited and have been_ in contact with legislators interested in OSHA and the asbestos industry and have attended and monitored House and Senate Oversight Hearings as well as many other meetings on asbestos matters.
We still have much to do but we have come a long way in the past year. Perhaps most of you don't realise, it, but just a little over a year ago AIA was nothing more than a room full cf files with virtually zero capability '.to answer questions cr_provida technical or other advice.
We have been most fortunate in having as Executive Director since late August
^of last year. Bob Mereness, whose experience as a Public Relations Officer
and whose knowledge of the Washington scene have put us on the map. Although he joined us with virtually no knowledge of the asbestos industry, his pregre ss up che le *--*---**<
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iT.V. e. ofzic e sta: was greatly strengthened by the addition on July 1 of
Bob Pi zz. who s>
Administrative Officer will be
of grreeat value in freeing Bob Mereness from the demands of office routine . v'wi i1_lTl_ permit him to spend his time more productively cn government,
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legesiizive and ether outside contacts.
In summary, we've got a viable, going operation, far better ecuiroed than formerly to serve the membershim of this association.
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As I will be steering down as President, I an not going to present a com prehensive plan *fcr the future, but I do want to emphasise the importance cf aggressive and effective prog-rams in two areas.
1. Customer education 2. Medical surveillance and research
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Kith respect to the first point. Secretary Stender has clearly stated th
the '.job of giving guidance to snail employers on methods of compliance v
CSHA Regulations is one for the private sector. Our industry must expan
this concept to cover all customers, snail or large, who need help in
understanding or in complying with the asbestos regulations. This is
a must if we are to protect our markets.
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We badly need a series of booklets describing work practices for cur customs Although final publication may have to be delayed until the new regulations have been established, we should get on with the preliminary work at once. We have the technical capabilities within our membership to do this job. Ed Fenner has already discussed this and has started the wheels rolling. I wis to emphasize that his committee will need a let of membership participation. We cannot expect a few individuals to do all the work. Therefore, I ask earn member to be prepared to contribute his fair .share of the engineering time and talent needed to do the job.
MEDICAL SURVEILLANCE AND RESEARCH
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I have used this term to cover medical surveillance programs far active employees and mortality studies of former or retired employees as well as research programs seeking data on dose-response relationships and on the `factors that contribute to the cause of disease. Industry can make signi ficant contributions in these areas but expert advice and guidance is needed
We are all well aware of a serious deficiency in the U.S. asbestos industry. We don't have an ARC or an IOEH. As an association we have no one to turn to for expert medical advice and, with the exception of one or two, most ccmzanies in the industry are in le same resitten.
We have discussed the subject ad nauseum and have made several feeble and unsuccessful attempts to develop a relationship that would provide us with a readily accessible source of excertise.
'So- ssive action is now and I have two
. take a leadership role to insure that
adequate medical surveillance
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present and future workers in the asbestos industry.
' Few, if any, industry members have full-time medical md_i\\ a*rtonmr s. Last Spring the membership was asked to submit recommendations for a Medical Advisory Committee to review'the medical surveillance provisions of the asbestos standard. There
was one reply
Host asbestos slants are served by local physicians with varying degrees of know-. ledge of the asbestos health haaard. Usually they are too busy, or lack the know ledge, or both, to develop comprehensive medical surveillance programs specifically for^asbestcs workers. The requirements in the OSKA Standard are minimal and do net
recuire recording of such tnangs as smoking habits, types of fiber exposed to, severity of exposure, or ether information that could be of value in determining
the cause of disease.
Presently :amir.ation orocedures may vary widely and record keeping may be inadequate. AIA can perform a practical and valuable service by commissioning a Qualified medical panel to develop a standard medical surveillance program
for its membershio and the industry.
New for the second recommendation: Developing a program such as I have just cutlined will be a lot easier than getting it implemented. If industry managers to be expected to institute and supervise dust control and aedicai surveillance programs at sucstantaai cost, or to .mamtaan reccros rcr the oenesit oa research programs, they must have a better understanding of the problem presently exists
Therefore, I propose AIA sponsor a meeting i-; flC Ucar.cz d
express purpose of providing the information, in laymen's languor
cn the biological erreers or asoestos ana .that tne meetar.g oe cnairec anc carect:
by a higniy qualified professicnal with unquestioned credentials in this f:
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zr.zg'trs zr.are oe for plant physicians or medical directors again, of course, ed " <* * *% by an outstancang autocracy.
It would be my hope that during the process of organising and holding these meeting
and developing a comprehensive medical surveillance program we would be able to
'icer.urv cualmee
h ^ o - :rerts who an seme fashion could be organized
to prcvice tne Asscciataon with tne acvice and guidance we presently lack.
I should like to'thank the Directors for their
during the past two years as evidenced by their outstanding record cf attendance
and oa--icicacicn. Special thanks, cf course, to the Executive Committee, who fair
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tional meetings, many times at considerable incoon--.^v*=o.-
I firmly believe that this Association --- c- V -- 2-5 its r:
:f its workers and the control of potentially hazardous
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Vath your continuing interest and support the AIA can be increasingly effective m ats advocacy of improved controls to reduce the haaards of occupational and
environmental exposure in order to insure that our society will continue :o er.;oy the benefits o :his miraculous material which has so many essential and lice saving nses
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Before introducing our guest speaker I should like to sake a. few comments. We are concerned with a very specific subject--the biological effects of asbestos. I think it is important, however, that we consider the subject in perspective Therefore, I should like to address myself for a moment to the general subjec of occuoatior.al safety and health and industrial nanagenent.
For years industrial msmagers have been deeply concerned with occupational safety. Safety prograns featuring employee education,' special equipment to protect c* x. e. . physical injury and well publicised safety contests are common. Many plants have full tine safety directors. Expenditures to provide safe worhin?
conditions are routine and unquestnor.ee.
Occupational health, on the other hand, has not received cnc attention, for, I submit, understandable reasons.
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e--.rv hatards are generally visible with respect to cause, effect and.remedy.
An unguarded press can result nr. nidecus and instantaneous mutiliatiph, but
elimination
hazard is a simple engineering mz
In contrast, the causes of occupationally related disease may be Invisible, the health consequences may not become apparent for 20, 30, 33 years or more, and the remedy may not be a simple engineering matter.
Thus, today's manufacturing manager, when faced with a potential health haaard,
ha> some cerclexing problems. In many cases he must commit resources to eliminat;
a hacard he.can't see, to prevent disease which may cr may not develop in seme
workers 20 or uO years
ard :o do this be may nave to employ`technology
eff ectiver.ess.
Obviously, there are no simple answers to taste pro mens. But
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AIA can do to help industrial managers resolve seme of these questions.
It comes down to a ratter of cormumications and education. There is a great deal cf data and scientific literature cn me biological effects of asbestos and how it varies from one sector of the industry to another. Much of it relates to exposure many years age when the need for dust controls were not clearly underszo: Research continually produces new data.
Kith perhaps a few actable exceptions, mis scientific data is either net getting to the industrial managers directly concerned with conditions in the work place cr, if it is, it is not clearly understood ` c w* 4 cn
The trir.cisal reason for the meeting today is very specific. It is to improve
communications and understanding between the scientific community and industry
to insure that industrial managers in the asbestos products industry will have
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