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FILE NAME Brakes BRK DATE 1975 July 23
DOC BRK198
DOCUMENT DESCRIPTION Memo RE NIOSH Meeting to Consider Dr. Selikoff Report
UUMM Manville
Internal Correspondence
To
Paul Kotin M. D.
From
George W. Wright M. D.
Copies
file C
Date July 23 1975
Subject
MEETING ORGANIZED BY DR JOHN FINKLEA OF NIOSH TO CONSIDER
A REPORT BY DR SELIKOFF AND HIS ASSOCIATES ON THEIR PRELIMINARY FINDINGS WITH RESPECT TO THE ENVIRONMENT AND THE HEALTH OF WORKERS EMPLOYED IN THE REPLACEMENT OF BRAKE LININGS
The meeting was held in the afternoon of July 21
and those attending are indicated on the attached exhibit
The agenda is also attached
Dr. Selikoff opened the meeting by stating that their
interest in the health of brake lining repair workers
arose because of a report of several cases of mesothelioma
occurring in auto repair workers
in my mind at first as to whether
There was some
this was solely
confusion
from the
New York area or a larger population It later developed
that there were 4 and possibly 5 cases that had come to
his attention from workers in this trade throughout the
United States He estimated that at least one million men
might be thus employed and exposed to asbestos He repeated several times that in his judgement it was not possible at this point in the development of information to say whether or not this represented an excess risk of mesothelioma but that he thought the observation merited further exploration He also indicated that he had reviewed this problem with appropriate people at the Ford Motor Company He then asked Dr. Langer to discuss the nature
of the material found in the dust that accumulates in brake
drums and which is by customary practice face and into the surrounding air at the the brake drums is being carried out
blown off time that
the surwork on
Langer opened his comments by saying that others had
reported that 30 percent of the asbestos in brake lining
converted by high heat to Forsterite He indicated that
ismodifiers present
the formation of Forsterite
prevented and he has found Forsterite in brake drum dust only in one
instance
The only person I know of who says that the
asbestos is converted to Forsterite is Paul Gross Others
say that it is converted to an amorphous and essentially fibrous material Dr. Langer indicated that the residue
was not pristine chrysotile fiber but he did not speak about amorphous material Langer in addition said that he
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Paul Kotin M. D. July 23 1975 Page 2
found pure asbestos fibers This too has been reported by others in quantities of anything from 1 to 3 percent of the residual dust He then asked Dr. Rohl to discuss
the fiber counts in the dust that was obtained
It should be indicated that brake drum dust was
obtained from cars in taxi repair shops municipal bus
repair shops and I believe some other similar workplaces
Dr. Rohl indicated that studies of the material blown from
or obtained from the brake drum contained fibers in large
numbers and these were chrysotile None of the fibers were more than 0.5 microns long and the bulk were under 0.3 microns In diameter they varied from 250 to 500 angstroms On the other hand he reported that the fiber
count varied from 0.4 29.0 fibers per ml at the worker
breathing air jet
that were
zone level where brakes were being cleaned by It was my understanding that these were fibers countable under the OSHA regulations and there-
fore would be visible with the light microscope and longer
than 5 microns It was not entirely clear to me whether these optically recognizable fibers actually came from the brake drum dust or not If they did I have a conflict in
reconciling his electron microscope study with his light microscope studies Rohl also reported that in brushing the brake drums rather than blowing them off the fiber count
OSHA criteria varied from 1 to 4 per ml during grinding the fiber count varied between 1 and 5. Most important
was the finding that when men were bevellitnhge brake linings
by grinding the counts varied between 20 and 75 fibers per
ml During punching riveting or sweeping the fiber count
varied between 2 and 4 fibers per ml
It is my under-
standing that other kinds of grinding of the brake lining
goes on in the fitting process Ed Fenner tells me that
they do something called arcing and this involves direct
grinding of the brake lining and is a very dusty job
Rohl
also showed data to indicate that there was a very rapid
fall off in the level of count as one moved away from the
.source so that fiber counts 10 or 20 feet more away from
the source of origin were lower than 1 fiber per ml and in
general were in the neighborhood of 0.2 On some ing it developed that these shops were what would
sidered to be very well run and therefore tend to
dust counts than would the average smaller shop
question-
be conhave lower In the
pictures that were shown
there was no evidence to
and the comments that were made indicate that any sort of dust
exhaust or suppression systems were in use I was surprised that no direct referrence to extensive data relative to brake drum dust by Lynch by Jacko et al by Anderson et al and by Manville as well as a small study of the work place during brake maintenance by Hickish and Knight was not
made by either Langer or Rohl
Paul Kotin M. D. July 23 1975 Page 3
At the request of the Unions Dr. Selikoff also did
a preliminary examination
loyed in the places where
The men were not selected
of 104 workers currently
the dust counts had been
on the basis of duration
empmade
or
intensity of exposure some working only once a week where
they would be exposed to brake lining operations but the
majority of them had worked for between 10 and 20
of the 104 29 had no direct
years
exposure to asbestos or pul-
monary disease but worked in the same area The data was
presented so rapidly
but in part at least
that I could not follow all of it it is as follows Of the 64 men
known to have direct shop exposure 16 had chest films that were read as category s or t small irregular densities with a profusion of 1/0 or more No controls for the reading were spoken of and I assume that these were read on
one occasion by one person The inference was that these
readings constituted disease attributable to the
There was no breakdown of how
had
exposure
many
in excess of 1/0 and thus I have no
profusion readings
knowledge about the
extent of the changes Later in the meeting I raised the
question of the interpretation of this kind of information
In the absence of controls there is no way to estimate
the influence of bias in this kind of reading It is obvious
that the reader knew the films came from an exposed group
and the tendency under these circumstances is to find some-
thing in the way of an abnormality The best way to counteract this bias is to have a group of controls dispersed among the exposed group and have the entire set read blind In the absence of this there are two other ways of going at it neither of which were utilized in these readings
The first of these is to have several readers look at the
films independently The accepted reading is then the one that has the majority of the readers designation For
example if the majority of the readers class a film as a 1/1 and a minority classify it as a 0/1 the ultimate reading used is 1/1 Some use reading by consensus but this is
a poor and unacceptable method because usually there is one dominant who is able to persuade the others as to
what he thinks it is The other way of going at it is to
know what the exposure history is and be able to rank the
observed population interms of intensity of exposure The
films are then read with no knowledge of the intensity of
the exposure and the distribution of readings has slightly
less bias than otherwise because the least
exposure serves
as a control for the more heavily exposed This method is
not as good as having multiple readers or actual control
films interspersed amongst the films of the population
under study With the information I have I don't know how
to interpret their ray findings other than to
that
the
inference
that
came from them was
that
all
say 16 of these
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July 23 1975
Page 4
individuals had disease The UICC classification is not
a diagnostic classification in any sense of the word and
serves only an epidemiological purpose I know of no basis on which one can conclude that people with a reading of 1/0 have actual disease Additional data was presented along the lines of pulmonary function measurements
The data showed a substantial percentage of those who
were directly exposed to have what was called restrictive
disease I don't know what criteria were used for arriving at this designation and hence can't evaluate the finding If it was based on actually measured total lung volumes rather than just on vital capacity then the data has use-
ful meaning The strong suggestion made by the Sinai group was that in these 104 individuals they had demonstrated the presence of asbestos related disease Maybe this was
not their intention but in contrast to Dr. Selikoff's state-
ment that 4 cases of mesothelioma did not constitute suff-
icient evidence to said to the effect
incriminate the exposure nothing was that the ray and pulmonary function
measurements may not have been very sound evidence of disease
On the basis of these reports from Dr. Selikoff's
laboratory several suggestions were forthcoming First
of all there was an inference that Langer's studies had a
implication that a public health hazard might exist
At the very least the implication both from Langer and
from Rohl was that short fibers found in large numbers
in the dust from the brake lining posed a potential threat
to health of great magnitude In my comments I pointed
out that there was growing experimental evidence that fibers
of lengths unde1r0 micron did not produce disease in terms
of pulmonary fibrosis and very likely did not produce
mesothelioma On this basis I would think the presence of
the very short fibers has little or no biological signif-
icance until proven otherwise The longer fibers are quite
- another matter since they are capable of producing asbestos
associated biological effects In my comments I stated
that the observation showing fiber concentrations of 20 to 70
fibers per milliliter in the bevelling operation did not
surprise me In other settings the grinding of the surface
of new brake lining is a known quite dusty process Dep-
ending upon the accumulated duration of exposure in this
kind of operation one had every reason to expect that in
those who have been doing this for a substantial length
of time there would be a risk of pulmonary fibrosis and the other kinds of asbestos associated disease Even though this might occur only once or twice a week these high intermittent exposures might have an adverse effect Since no
data in the way of cummulated dosage was presented
is no way in which the risk can be evaluated
there
It was quite
expect study of
clear that the Union representatives this category of workers to be made by
Paul Kotin M. D. July 23 1975 Page 5
Dr. Selikoff's group Mr. Cefalo of the Machinists Union made the blunt statement that if funds were not available
he could promise that they could become available Whether this meant from Union sources or from the influence of the Unions on the Government was not clearly stated .
and
As you I don't
know I had to know what the
leave before the meeting ended
upshot of the matter was
I
asked myself the question what is to be gained by mounting a complete epidemiologic study based on observation of
these workers and the environment of their workplace If the question is solely whether or not asbestos has the
propensity to produce a biological reaction along the
lines we already know I would say that making this study
would be a very poor use of Dr. Selikoff's and his co-
workers time and of expenditure of tax payers money We already have that kind of information and nothing in the presentation of the afternoon indicated that the exposure in this group was appreciably different from that which
has been reported in other occupational groups If adequate information can be obtained then two questions might be
approached There is the implication fostered primarily
by Dr. Selikoff's group that short asbestos produce all of the known biological effects
fibers 5
in workers
... long
sub-
stantially exposed They have taken this attitude on the
basis primarily that short fibers are found in the lungs at autopsy and therefore must be the cause of the disease
On the basis of animal experimentation others do not accept the hypothesis that fibers shorter than 5 to 10 microns in
length have biological capacity There appears to be a
reluctance on the part of the Selikoff group to accept the
inferences of the experimental animal data The difficulty
of looking to human exposure for resolution of the question
is obvious
Those groups exposed ocupationally at least
in studies up to the present are exposed to a mixture of
long and short
the affects of
fibers and there is thus no way of separating short versus those caused by long fiber Not
even autopsy data will help in this respect since long fibers
are subject to shortening by fracture with a passage of time If a group exposed only to the dust from the brake
drums as described by Langer and Rohl could be separated out and looked at in terms of their mortality and morbidity experience then a study of the brake lining workers pop-
ulation would be emminently worth while If this cannot
be done and the exposures are mixed the population will be of no use for examining the effects of short fibers versus
long fibers Another question might be looked at by studying this group There still remains a question in the
minds of some as to whether or not the 2 fiber per cc level
in the ambient air OSHA standard is adequate to protect the workers who are exposed throughout a lifetime If
the Dr. Selikoff's group can reconstruct exposure histories
of these workers in a manner that will give a ranking of
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July 23 1975 Page 6
the workers in terms of intensity and duration of exposure then a study of the relationship between this ranking and the biological effects would be useful If this cannot
be done and if the population cannot be divided into those
exposed solely to short fibers and those exposed to either
solely
fibers
long
then
fibers or a combination of short
I see nothing to be learned from
and long
an extensive
study of
be sure
this population that is not the employees in this trade
already known To might want an assess-
ment of the potential hazards and this kind of information
might be used in persuading both the employers and employees to create a safe work place I think this can be done by utilizing knowledge already existing with respect to bio-
logical effects and relating it to a thorough survey of
the environment with respect to the level of asbestos fibers
in the various kinds of jobs being done in this category of employment
'
It seems to me that Dr. Selikoff's group constitutes a resource that should husband its time and facilities
I would hope they would not embark on a study except in those areas where something useful could be obtained I think that a thorough investigation into the environment
could be thought of as useful study on the basis of what
is now known In fact under the regulations set forth
by OSHA the employers should already have developed that
information The regulations require that when employees handle materials in processes through which they might be exposed to the inhalation of asbestos fibers certain envir-
onmental and physical examination requirements must be
satisfied I would think this would be the most useful
avenue to pursue since the requirements under OSHA are quite
clear cut
I don't know at this time what can be antici-
pated in the way of reconstructing exposure histories or in dividing the population into the two groups with the
respect to length of fiber On the basis of past experience I would not be very hopeful that this could be accomplished with a degree of accuracy permitting any conclusions from a biological survey to be drawn
Several seemed to me
other to be
points arose from important First
this meeting that
of all insofar as
I can learn labeling
that would inform the
of brake user and
lining materials in a way
the worker of the inherent
hazard related to the various ways in which the material
might be
at all
handled I would
has not been a common practice if done hope this would be corrected at once
Mr. Sam Meyers of the United Auto Workers Local 259 showed
posters his group have developed warning of the possible effects of brake lining handling on health He also made
constructive remarks during the meeting It seems clear that some mechanism must be found for alerting all workers in this trade to the potential hazards and the need to join
Paul Kotin M. D. July 23 1975 Page 7
with the employers in finding ways to work safely An educational program through the Unions well as the
employers should be mounted as quickly as possible Since
this trade may involve only a few people in a given place and presumably is not totally uinionized I believe this
may be a matter of considerable magnitude The discussions
of this particular afternoon demonstrate as well as anything I know the obligation the part of manufacturers to know
where their products containing potentially toxic material
go and the way in which they are used In those circum-
stances where a hazard can be created by the use of the
product a means of informing the worker must be found
At the very least this should be labelling and in all probability it should be a joint educational effort on the part of the workers organizations and the employers and the producers Unfortunately labelling is often times either
ignored or loses its impact with the passage of time For
this reason more persistent and active methods should be
found for accomplishing the purpose In view of the nature
of the problem and the fact that the current OSHA regu-
lations that no
should have broughitt to the fore I
representative of OSHA was present
was surprised Representatives
of EPA were present even though their concern would be
expected to be less at this point than should be true for
OSHA
I regret that I was unable to attend beyond 3:40 I will call Dr. Finklea and give me more information and if so I will
to you
the meeting
see if he can
transmit this
fl
George W. Wright M. D.
GWW