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1 Q Okay, 2003i Page 314 j : 2 A I think, I'm almost certain the 2003 paper was 3 accepted by the original journal to which it was 4 submitted. I'm virtually certain of that because of 5 the difficulty getting into this journal. So I'm 6 fairly certain of that. 7 And I'm certain on the 2004 paper, it was 8 accepted by the journal submitted to. : 9 Q It was accepted on submitted? 10 A Oh, they never, they are virtually never 11 accepted as submitted. 12 Q That was the question, I was asking. 13 A I'm sorry. 14 Q Not did you have to shop it around. 15 A Okay. 16 Q But how many times did it come back from the 17 publisher? 18 A You know, if we're going to go another half 19 hour let' s take a three or four minutes because we're 20 making too many mistakes. 21 Q I'm almost done. 22 A You don't want to do that, all right. 23 I didn't shop them around. They are never 24 accepted, I don't know that I've ever seen a paper 25 accepted as is without some slight changes. And I'm ESQUIRE DEPOSmON SERVICES (415) 288-4280 i i