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FILE NAME Corning OC
DATE 1941 June 16
DOC OC140
DOCUMENT DESCRIPTION Internal Report - Investigation of Health Aspects of Fiberglass
OWENS CORNING FIBERGLAS CORPORATION
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Attention of
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General Offices Toledo Ohio
June 16 1941
Mr. Harold Bosschenstein - Toledo
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Mr. W. P. Zimmerman Mr. E. J. Marshall
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'Investigation of Health Aspects of Fiberglas by Dr. Walter J. Siebert 2415 North Kingshighway St. Louis Missouri
Mr. H. R. Thomas
Mr. T. S. Rogersshare with Dr. Campbell
En route to St. Louis June 12 I stopped to see Dr. Enos at the Owens-
Illinois plant in Alton garded with considerable
fession in the St. Louis
Dr. Enos said that Dr. Siebert is re-
respect by members of the medical proarea as indicated by his affiliation
with the medical school of Washington University and his position
as consulting pathologist
although it is well known use of hard liquor he is
in five hospitals Dr. Enos said that
that Dr. Siebert does not abhor the
not regarded as an alcoholic
Dr. Enos remarks confirm other evidence such as listings in
medical directories that Dr. Siebert is regarded as an authority in his field He performs some seven hundred autopsies yearly and reports his findings to the medical practitionere whose
diagnoses are checked with the findings in the autopsy In addition he spends five or six hours daily at a microscope diagnosing
tissues sent to him for sectioning From Mr. Bartley I learn
that Dr. Siebert is regarded by organized labor and the insurance comanies comanies as an incorruptible witness whose professional testimony is not subject to influence by any consideration other than his
scientific judgment
For us I believe it is extremely fortunate that Dr. Siebert has
this kind of temperament and professional attitude His approach to the assignment given him by Mr. Bartley is to do a thorough scientific job that will make him an authority on the health aspects
of Fiberglas
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After registering at the Park Plaza I met Dr. Siebert in his labora tory at DePaul Hospital In an adjoining room where he keeps blood plasma he showed me the Fiberglas samples that he had received from Newark We returned to the Park Plaza where we met Mr. Bartley for
lunch Afterward Mr. Bartley Dr. Siebert and I went to Dr. Siebert
apartment in the St. Regis where we discussed the proposed report for five hours Result of the discussion is the appended outline of procedure which indicates the scope of the investigation upon which
Dr. Siebert is launched
CORNING FIBERGLAS CORPORATION
COMPANY CORRESPONDENCE
attention of Ur Boeschenstein
General Offices Toledo Oblo
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June 16 1941
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Firfequently during the discussion Dr. Siebert sidetracked himself on minute points that seemed to fascinate him as a scientist For example while describing to Mr. Bartley the investigation that he carried on in Toledo and Newark on June 2 and 3 he told of examining scores of Newark employees He was amazed to find he said that there were no cases of eye irritation in the plant Now he said I would like to know why As a pathologist I would like to determine what happens
to particles of Fiberglas that get into the eyes as they certainly
must do When I ask the employees in Newark whether they get any glass in their eyes they tell me Sure now and then but it don't bother me none Undoubtedly it is because the blink reaction takes care
of it and washes it out of the eye But I am concerned with what
would happen to an employee whose blink reaction might be paralyzed
scar above the eye Undoubtedly the skin irritation experienced
boyn a arms and wrists by new employees is to be explained by the fact there are no mucosa on these parts of the body to wash away the fibers But they all say they get used to it Again and again I heard that
phrase It don't bother me none
use in Because it was obvious that Dr. Siebert was outlining for himself a
of research I offered the suggestion that he
years program
might
his report
some
such
statement as this Our best fibers have no deleterious
knowledge at present indicates that the
effect whatsoever on the eyes because the fibers are entirely non-
toxic and inorganic and because of the fineness of their diameter
lack sufficient strength to penetrate the mucosa I suggested
they
work of Dr. Roy Philip Scholz who
that in this connection he cite the
is using Fiberglas for surgical sutures iannddicdaotciunmgetnthatthetherewfheyrsencaend
with a footnote if he chose to do so
fruitful field of inquiry
wherefores of this situation might open up a
medical school
for a research student doing postgraduate work in some
home the point I suggested that a person building a home
To press
in his windows because they were transparent and
wanted glass panes kept the rain out
The homebuilder I suggested did not insist that
resisted water That
the contractor explain why the glass in the pane
for the glass technologist and the physicist to explore
was a question
to
across a pragmatic point of view suggesting that
Thus I tried
get
with his finding that Fiberglas
the union members would be satisfied
that if scientists
irritation or severe dermatitis and
causes no eye
want to know why they can pursue their inquiry elsewhere more appro-
Mr. Bartley concurred in this point of view
priately
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General Offices Toledo Ohio
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Dr. Siebert said he has received the biopsy from Dr. Campbell and is planning to make a microscopic section for examination He also
showed Mr. Bartley a piece of glass fiber that he has in his own
thumb He said It don't bother me none but it's there and I
know exactly where and when I got it I am going to make a biopsy
of it and put it under the microscope
Commenting on Dr. Gardner's investigations Dr. Siebert repeated to Mr. Bartley the statement he made to me in Toledo If these findings had been made by any man other than Gardner I would have asked Why did you not have this investigation made by Dr. Gardner Even so Dr. Siebert added he wanted very much to talk with Dr. Gardner or at least have the opportunity to make microscopic studies
of all the slides made by Dr. Gardner Through Mr. Staelin arrange-
ments have been made with Dr. Gardner to send his slides to Dr. Siebert
Dr. Siebert agreed that he would return to Dr. Gardner all of the
alides and would furnish an affidavit to the effect that he had made
no photomicrographs of any of them unless Dr. Gardner gave himspecific permission to do so He suggested that it might be of interest to Dr. Gardner to let him know that he was a colleague at DePaul Hospital of Dr. Edward C. Ernst roentgenologist who at one time was associated
with Dr. Gardner in some silicosis studies
Dr. Siebert pointed out what he described as an inconsistency in the second paragraph of Dr. Gardner's Interim Report of May 16 1941
Miscroscopic examination of their lung tissues has failed to demonstrate the presence of any fibres of glass Small quantities of very minute particles which are probably glass splintered in the process creating the dust have
been observed within the lungs Reaction to these particles
is limited to microscopic collections of cells which could
not conceivably influence pulmonary function
out that the first sentence has to do with fibers which are
I pointed
differentiated from minute particles which are exon-
not present as conceivable influence on pulmonary function Neverthe-
erated from any
this differentiation offered one reason why
less Dr. Siebert said
Dr. Siebert said Dr. Gard-
he wished to examine the slides Further
fibers
that there is no health hazard because glass
ner's report implies
into the lungs
This assumption based on size
are too large to get
warranted in the light of knowledge that
he indicated is no longer
than the Fiberglas particles do get
asbestos particles much larger
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General Offices - Toledo Ohlo
Attention of Mr. Boeschenstein
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into the lungs We do get in We know because they contain can be injurious and
need to know he said what size glass fibers there can be no silicosis hazard from glass fibers
no free silica but we also know that other dusts
it is still necessary to exonerate glass fiber
dust
Dr. Siebert repeated that it is fortunate that Dr. Gardner has done
this work and he emphasized that he can accept Gardner's procedure and techniques He wishes only the opportunity to examine the slides
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and check Gardner's interpretations with his own My hunch is that
he looks forward to this opportunity to bring himself to the attention
of Dr. Gardner It may be necessary
to bundle him into a plane later
for a day session with Gardner in Saranac
dusted Dr. Siebert said he wants to talk to Gardner to inquire whether it
would be possible to take some of the dusted animals and
them to tuberculosis We need to know he suggested whether
esxupbojseucrte to glass wool which may be entirely benign in and of
nevertheless predisposes an organism to tuberculosis He
explained that normal healthy guinea pigs injected with tuberculosis
die in eight weeks It would be very simple for Dr. Gardner
Dgre.rmSsiebert suggested to take several healthy guinea pigs as a control -
inject them with tuberculosis germs do the same with glass-
group
dusted guinea pigs and watch results
If the
animals died no sooner than the unexposed animals he said it would
be conclusive evidence that exposure to glass wool dust does not pre-
dispose an individual to pulmonary disorders
Dr. Siebert said he is planning to create dusted atmospheres in
the room adjoining his laboratory in DePaul Hospital He will do so
with a steel tennis racket beating samples of Fiberglas with counted
successive days measuring the particles per cubic foot
strokes on
he will breathe the dust and have
Uhsiimsneglfhimesxealmfinaesd bthye n guino ea ps ig e throat physicians at the hospital
the effect on the mucosa of his throat and nasal passages
to determine
of competitive products
He will repeat the experiments with the sampsleenst to him from Newark
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rock
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rock
work etc. that Fiberglas
is
a practically dist-
I called his attention to the fact
tests which showed
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negligible
oscillations
He requested a copy of the Purdue report which
iesxtetnosibvee sent by Mr. Rogers and said this would be very significant
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COMPANY CORRESPONDENCE
Attention of Mr. Boeschenstein
General Offices Toledo Ohio
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June 16 1941
Subject
Information on which Dr. Siebert
categories
rely falls into these three
1 Data supplied from our records
2 Data from sources other than Corning In this
category he includes information available to the general public like Dr. McIllvain's report Bulletin
No. 2 of the Pennsylvania Safe Practices Conferenc)e
3. Independent research undertaken by himself
Although these are detailed further in the attached outline the
following information is significant Dr. Siebert says that Mr.
are Marshall informed him that additional data
to be sent him within
two weeks by the Ohio Industrial Commission concerning our assertion
that no award has ever been made in Ohio to any individual on the
basis of an occupational disease attributable to exposure to Fiber-
glas products Mr. Bartley added parenthetically that he hoped this
information would go back through the period before Corning
was formed and include the time when Fiberglas was manufactured by
Illinois Mr. Bartley minimizing his interest in the possi-
bility of a dermatitis hazard said he is greatly concerned over length of exposure over a period of years as a factor the in-
vestigation
Dr. Siebert said that he has a protege
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W. K. Wilson M.D.
who is plant physician for Chevrolet Fisher Body and the new T.N.T. in St. Louis Dr. Wilson is now in Toronto having been sent
ptlhaenrte by these three companies to make a study of occupational diseases
Dr. Siebert has asked him to bring back any available information
Dr. Siebert requested that he receive letters from the three ophthalmologists throat specialists specialists in Newark as to whether they notice in their private practice any unusual incidence of nose or throat infections among Fiberglas production employees I have requested Dr. Campbell to get these letters for us and will
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COMPANY CORRESPONDENCE
Attention af Mr. Boeschenstein
General Offices Toledo Ohio
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He asked also for a statement from Aetna regarding experience
with the Corning group I am sending him a copy of
John Hill's letter attached Incidently Mr. Hill is following
this letter with one from Aetna's chief engineer at Hartford
He also asked for letters from the United States Navy Budd Manu-
facturing Gustin and American Airways about experience with their employees in the handling of Fiberglas I think we
should steer this one off on the ground that we have supplied him with complete data and that although he is free to write himself
he will realize we are not anxious to put any negative suggestion
in the minds of some of our best customers Moreover he has Fiber-
glas Standards sheets setting forth naval specifications on our
products which imply that the material is he has the Melllvain report to cover Budd
satisfactory to the Navy and we can supply him
with a reprint of the New Times story on American's use
of acoustical blankets together with the application photograph
from Boeing As to Gustin they are the exclusive purveyor
of Fiberglas products to the railroad industry and their statements
would reflect our point of view
Dr. Siebert went through my collection of glossy prints showing workers handling Fiberglas both in the Newark plant and in appli-
cators and requested copies to document his report These
are going off to him
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At.Dr. At.Dr. Siebert's urgent insistence I stayed in St. Louis Thursday
night and spent most of Friday with him Thursday evening he gave me his longhand draft of the attached outline which I typed in quadruplicate at the hotel on Friday morning Retaining two copies I left the original and the longhand draft with Dr. Siebert after discussing it further with him and sent the duplicate copy to Mr. Bartley by messenger
Mr. Bartley telephoned me Friday morning to say he had received a copy of a letter written to a Mr. George A. Modgeman of the Fidelity and Casualty Company of New York from Dr. Peterson of the Reference Library of the American Medical Association Mr. Hodgaman had made an inquiry of Mr. Bartley's request The letter cited Dr. Gardner's
work Dr. Lanza's work and a professor at the Colorado School of
Attention of
COMPANY CORRESPONDENCE
General Offices - Toledo Ohio
Mr. Boeschenstein
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lines who said Fiberglas causes keratosis Mr. Bartley is to send copies to Dr. Siebert and to me Copy attached
On Friday afternoon I unpacked the samples at the hospital and
examined them with Dr. Siebert Late Friday afternoon Dr. Siebert and I visited the Anheuser brewery where I renewed my acquaintance with Ray Seeker and Agnes Rabbit both of whom were prominent at the A.I.H.A. meeting May 19. Dr. Siebert is pathologist to the brewery and is proud of his association there He is a good friend of Dr. Ted Hanser who is industrial physician at
Anheuser
Mr. Bartley proudly displayed noon At his request memofolds
memofold when we met him Thursday
also have been ordered for his
partners at Bartley & Mayfield 208 North Broadway St. Louis
associated Gene Mayfield James P. Kellett
field Kellett once was
Malcolm L. Bartley Waldo C. May-
with John L. Lewis and is
former Industrial Commissioner of Illinois under Gov. Dunn A memo-
fold also has been ordered for Dr. Siebert
Note re Dr. Siebert's fee
I explained to both Mr. Bartley and Dr. Siebert that we will be glad to take care of Dr. Siebert's charges for the investigation whatever they are because we do not want the Union to be put to any expense All that we ask I said is that Dr. Siebert charge an amount that he can sustain by sound professional opinion as being appropriate and that we would like that to be the test because we don't want him to be in the position of charging any more or less than the report is fairly worth I said that we are looking forward to helping the Union get an honest thorough report that any compe tent professional man could look at and find right and that we are anxious that he make this kind of a report on his account as well as on our own I also explained that we have in mind following this matter through to the point where the report and subsequent interpretations of it or testimony based on it will bury completely every question that might be raised and that we expect to feel free to call on Dr. Siebert in conjunction with Dr. Gardner or Dr. Campbell or anybody else to carry through whatever further studies may be necessary Dr. Siebert agreed that he will render the bill to us through Mr.
Bartley This procedure is satisfactory to Mr. Bartley and I explained to him that we will pay any charges rendered by Dr. Siebert
that he approves
Attention of
CORNING FIBERGLAS CORPORATION
COMPANY CORRESPONDENCE
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Mr. Boeschenstein
General Offices . Toledo Oblo
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Note on Timinogf Report
It will be impossible for Dr. Siebert to consideration by the Union during June
the August 1 date
have his report ready for He is still shooting at
of Dr. Siebert I think realizes the urgency the situation from
our point of view But he dislikes being hurried Remember I am pathologist at five hospitals and sick people depend on my
routine work If I had known Bill he said to Mr. Bartley
that this investigation would take so much time I never would
have got into it But here I am and chances are that the three
of us in this room he said including himself Mr. Bartley and
me together with Gardner and a few other fellows know just about
that is known concerning the health hazards of Fiber-
everything
read him Mr. Marshall's letter expressing the
glas Mr. Bartley
be available in time for action
hope that Dr. Siebert's report would
by the Local in June so that a report could go into the July issue
of the Asbestos Worker Dr. Siebert suggested that Mr. Bartley go
before the Local at next meeting June 17 and say that an extensive report is now being prepared by Dr. Siebert to be based
on independent research a study of the world medical literature and information from all other available sources Mr. Bartley agreed to give this word to Gus Schmitters business agent of Local No. 1 although he appeared to be somewhat loath to be in the
position of pressing something into the Local's minutes for publi-
cation in the Asbestos Worker
The subject of Sickles letter to Schmitters regarding Consolidated
Edison did not come up Whether Mr. Bartley knows about it I do not know I suggest however it will be well for Mr. Marshall to
send him the attached photostat of the letter of June 12 from Mr. Beardsley just received from Mr. Dias which demolishes the r6_ joinder that Sickles made to Beardsley's letter of May 2
I feel sure however that my visit hurried him along by nailing
down his procedure and formulating the outline I think that by
at intervals of two or three days correspondence and
telephoning
intervals
of
ten
days
or two
weeks
we
may
step
this
up
visits at
I were to go to St. Louis
by two or three weeks For instance if
to
to Dallas
again on Monday June 23 and stay until necessary
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COMPANY CORRESPONDENCE
General Offices - Toledo Ohio
Attention of
Mr. Boeschenstein
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for the
June 30
June 28 meeting and stop in returning from Dallas I can
St. Louis again on do the following
Monday
1. Offer my own services as a guinea pig in the
dusting tests
2. Carry through the mechanical details of setting up laboratory procedures at DePaul hospital for
the independent research he plans
3. Stand by to get his draft dictated This is the
way he works
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4. Step up the clerical work of getting the report in final shape for submission to Mr. Bartley
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Edward C. Ames
CORNING FIBERGLAS CORPORATION
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COMPANY CORRESPONDENCE
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Attention of
General Offices - Toledo Ohio
Mr Earold Boeschenstein
January 7 1942
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EJM thinks there is the germ of a major strategy here He suggests
1 Compilation of asbestosis file as suggested
2. Explore with Aetna what we can get in way of
automatic pianola coverage in nature of
public liability coverage extended by cedar chest manufacturer against moth holes
manufacturer
3. X step -- how to utilize and get results
a. go to under cold turkey and lay it on line
b or - start with peoplwee know in union
and build up confidence in worker that he
is protected and there is no risk
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Queries
1. Would we have to do same in Equipment field
2. How would this affect our terms and conditions of sale
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and
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OCF Documents from Lawrence Madeksho
These are from two bundles of OCF documents that I have had for
some time but never examined recently Originally I had looked at them and discounted their significance because they all are dated in the 1960s However they proved of interest to attorney LM in Texas who culled the enclosed items from the two stacks each about 3 in thick I have the stacks too which were returned
This material I have examined and tried to group roughly in this
order
1. awareness of the hazard of asbestos diseases esp
Kaylo insulation
2. awareness and concern about dust on Kaylo block products
3. continuing battle union over health hazards inside the
Kaylo mfg plant in Berlin NJ esp over dust from trim saws used in finishing line to remove excess and provide constant dimensions for products to be shipped 1960-63 continuing through 1969
4. program to develop asbestos Kaylo calcium silicate block and pipe-covering indicating pressures from customers and upper mgmt
5. warnings to product users and the general public
6. OCF contract Pabco Fibreboard on distribution of Kaylo
8. 7. miscellaneous documents of lesser interest to me
July 12 1985