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June 27, 1980
Mr. J. F. Reis Johns-Manville Corporation Ken-Caryl Ranch Denver, CO 80217
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Dear Jim:
Enclosed is the copy of your text on which I have made a few comments. I have
retained a copy for Harry Rhodes to look at and he will contact you directly if
he has any additional comments.
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As we discussed, I would suggest a paragraph or two on the hazard, or lack of a hazard, to the general population. I think legislators, especially, should hear the industry side of this phase of the asbestos story. I have enclosed a copy of my 12/75 paper for the JPT with the "public environment" section circled.
I have always been impressed by the fact that, as I understand it, the Quebec asbestos miners have a lower incidence of lung cancer than the general population in Montreal. If true, perhaps this is another point to make.
Is there any way to establish the actual number of deaths per year due to asbestos exposure? I found the attached table in my files, but it only covers asbestosis for 1960-1967. It would be good information if we knew something
about trends based on actual data rather than speculations by NI0SH, EPA, 0SHA, etc.
I think the "Asbestos Issue" idea is a good one and commend J-M for the work already expended on it. I am sure we will use your more general presentation when available.
Thank you for allowing me to review the text and perhaps 1111 see you at the Substitutes Workshop.
Very truly yours.
Marketing Manager'
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Johns-Manville Corporation
Ken-Caryl Ranch Denver, Colorado 80217 (303) 978-1000
Executive Offices
June 16, 1980
Mr. John Myers Union Carbide Corp. P.0. Box 579 Niagara Falls, NY 14302
Dear John:
Attached is a copy of the text for our Asbestos Issue plant tour presentation. As I mentioned at the meeting, we will delete certain sections that are more pertinent to Johns-Manville and develop a version for use by AIA members.
I would appreciate any ccmnents or suggestions you might have.
JFR:tw Attachment
James F. Reis Director, Asbestos Policy
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RECEIVED
JUN 2 3 1980
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NIAGARA TALI.?, N. Y.
GOOD MORNING/ LADIES AND GENTLEMEN:
. I AM (name)(title) OF JOHNS-MANSVJLLE's Irlant, or mL
WITH ME THIS HORNING ARE (name .S.tlt.leO FIRST, WE'D LIKE TO
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR JOINING US. YOUR PRESENCE DEMONSTRATES YOUR
JUTFBEST IN HEARING MORE ABOUT OUR TOPIC - ASBESTOS -- A TOPIC THAT
( TpEjMS EMOTIONAL IN NATURE, BEFORE WE GET INTO THE SUBJECT,
HOWEVER, LET HE TELL YOU WHAT THE AGENDA IS. FIRST, WE WILL SPELL
OUT THE DETAILS OF THE ASBESTOS ISSUE, AND THEN WE WILL FIELD ANY
AljD ALL QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. FOLLOWING THAT WE WILL HAVE LUNCH.
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. LET ME INTRODUCE (name)
FROM OUR CORPORATE OFFICES IN DENVER,
WHO WILL PROVIDE SOME BACKGROUND INFORMATION ON ASBESTOS.
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^V^THANK YOU (name)
LET ME ADD MY WELCOME TO ALL OF YOU AND
THANK EACH OF YOU FOR COMING. ^HNS-MANVILLE HAS RECEIVED MUCH
NEGATIVE PUBLICITY ABOUT ASBESTOS, AND WE WANT YOU TO KNOW THE WHOLE STORY, NOT JUST WHAT YOU'VE READ IN THE PRESS. YOU PROBABLY HAVE MANY QUESTIONS. `
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- IS ASBESTOS A CARCINOGEN? - IS THERE A SAFE EXPOSURE LIMIT? - IS IT A HAZARD IN TODAY'S OCCUPATIONAL SETTING? - IS AN ASBESTOS USING PLANT A HAZARD TO A NEIGHBORHOOD? - IS THERE A RISK TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC IN USING ASBESTOS j CONTAINING PRODUCTS, INCLUDING A/C WATER PIPE? I - DID J-rt COVER UP THE HEALTH HAZARD? i'4 ' WE PLAN TO ANSWER EACH OF THESE QUESTIONS CANDIDLY, AND, IF MOST OF j WHAT YOU KNOW ABOUT ASBESTOS AND ASBESTOS-RELATED DISEASES IS WHAT | YOU'VE HEARD OR READ IN THE MEDIA, WE HOPE TO CLARIFY THE ISSUE FOR YOI
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BECAUSE IT DEALS WITH HUMAN HEALTH, THE ASBESTOS HATTER IS NOT ONLY A VERY COMPLEX ISSUE, BUT ALSO A HIGHLY EMOTIONAL ONE. THE ' EMOTIONALISM OF THE ASBESTOS ISSUE IS OF, TEN HADE WORSdEeBRYTATHivEo PARTIES INVOLVEDR,e'GE,So.PLEACToIAL.YLYAPoLeAwINcTyIFFS' ATTORNEYS, AIWHEADLINE SEEKING GOVERNMENT^FFICIALS. SO, I ASK YOU TO KEEP AN OPEN MIND AND TO DRAW YOUR OWN CONCLUSIONS. AGAIN, LET ME EMPHASIZE THAT WE WILL ANSWER TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE FOLLOWING OUR PRESENTATION.
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ASBESTOS IS A GENERIC TERM APPLIED TO SIX MINERALS WHICH ALL HAVE ,o"- A FIBROUS STRUCTURE. ^SBESTOS CAN BE DIVIDED INTO TWO MAIN CLASSES,
BASED ON .THE CRYSTALLINE STRUCTURE OF THE HOST ROCK -- SERPENTINE
AND AI'TPH I BOLES. WITHIN THESE TWO CLASSIFICATIONS THERE ARE
COMMERCIALLY .SIGNIFICANT VARIETIES^ ASBESTOS: CHRYSOTILEt-T^
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BESTOS" IS DERIVED FROM AN'ANCIENT GREEK TERM UEAtf _"I NEXT INGUjSHARLF." THE GREEKS AND ROMANS USED ASBESTOS TO MAKE
WICKS FOR TEMPLE LAMPS. CLASSICAL WRITERS OF REPUTE
:Bmmwrjjte ab_out a substance which, when lit,
DID NOT BURN OUT.
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PAST AND IN^CERTAIN COUNTRIES IT WAS USED IN THE MAKING OF LIGHT
POTTERY ANDATHE BUILDING OF
OVENS. HOWEVER, IN
SPITE OF SUCH VARIED APPLICATIONS, FOR CENTURIES, ASBESTOS REMAINED
NOTHING MORE THAN A CURItffolTY.
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' 9- ' o TODAY PRACTICALLY EVERYONE USES ASBESTOS IN ONE FORM OR ANOTHER.
OVER THREE THOUSAND PRODUCT ^CONTAIN ASBESTOS, USUALLY IN COMBIN
ATION WITH OTHER MATERIALS, WITH PROPERTIES UNMATCHED BY ANY OTHER
NATURAL OR MAN-MADE MATERIAL. ADEQUATE SUBSTITUTES FOR ASBESTOS HAVE NOT BEEN IDENTIFIED TO DATE FOR TTEfflL REINFORCEMENT, DURABILITY AND
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BUT.LIKE REINFORCING RODS IN CONCRETE, THEY ARE BOUND IN ...
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OF THIS MINERAL TO HIGH TEMPERATURE MAKES IT EXTREMELY USEFUL' IN %bH TEMPERATURE PACKING MATERIALS^ftoKETS AND^RICTION MATERIALS
SUCH AS BRAKE LININGS AND CLUTCH FACINGS. THEHPSi^AVMAEsPpRhOauPtERgT>IAESE3> HAVE MADE ASBESTOS INVALUABLE IN THE PRODUCTION OF^COATINGS AND
SEALANTS, TEXTILES SUCH AS THIS FIRE FIGHTING SUIT, AND INSULATING
PRODUCTS. IN THE PAST, HOWEVER, THERE WERE SOME APPLICATIONS `
WHERE THE FIBERS WERE NOT LOCKED-IN- BY BINDERI'Sltf,TUatC'l' &L LOP Rll^^^RHA^lH^iFHrAN-D-tgreffy ASS TODAYO'HESEaHAVE BEEN ]
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SOCIETY, ASBESTOS TODAY
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DOSE OF ASBESTOS Gffi CAUSE DISEASE, THERE IS ITStJESTION ABOUT THIS.
BUT, THE KEY WORD HERE IS EXCESSIVE. ASBESTOS USED UNDER PROPER
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DELINEATE THE HEALTH SITUATION. THERE ARE THREE DISEASES ASSOCIATED WITH EXCESSIVE EXPOSURE TO ASBESTOS FIBER.
_ ESTOSIS, WHICH IS THE MOST PREVALENT OF THE THREE, IS A NON-
CANCEROUS LUNG CONDITION THAT CAN BE CAUSED BY EXCESSIVE INHALATION
AND RETENTION OF ASBESTOS FIBER OVER MANY YEARS. ASBESTOSIS IS A
SCARRING OF THE LUNG TISSUE AND IS ONE OF SEVERAL DISEASES CLASSIFIED
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THE SECOND DISEASE IS LUNG CANCER. THERE IS LESS INCIDENCE OF THIS ASBESTOS-RELATED DISEASE THAN THERE IS ASBESTOSIS. BUT LUNG CANCER ' IS SIGNIFICANT BECAUSE IT IS THE CHIEF CAUSE OF DFATH AMONG FFRSONsflh
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H0WEVER' MEDICAL EVIDENCE CLEARLY INDICATES
H^THAT $^IT-jof>6ft CIGARETTE SMOKING. THERE WOULD BE NO SIGNIFICANT
EXCESS OFTUHTcANCER AMONG PEOPLE OCCUPATIONALLY EXPOSED TO ASBESTOS. I WILL COME BACK TO SMOKING IN A MOMENT.
'y WlESOTHELIOH IS THE THIRD DISEASE IDENTIFIED AS HAVING A RELATIONSHIP
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TO^gSSM ASBESTOS EXPOSURE. AS WELL ASCERTAIN OTHER SUBSTANCES.
IT IS A ^ DI-SBEeAcSaEuseAFFiErCT/&INGexTHE LININGS OF THE CHEST AND ABDOMINAL
CAVITIES.HOWEVERAALMOST OF THE TALK YOU HEAR IS ABOUT EITHER
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FULLY UNDERSTAND THE HEALTH ASPECTS, YOU SHOULD UNDERSTAND THE ,
DIFFERENT CATEGORIES OF EMPLOYEES WORKING WITH ASBESTOS.
WORKERS IN MINES, MILLS OR FACTORIES MANUFACTURING ASBESTOS CON- f TAINING PRODUCTS HANDLING 100% ASBESTOS FIBER. THEY NUMBER APPRO-L XIMATELY 250,000,
^INSULATION WORKERS WHO WORKED WITH THE PRODUCTS Tg^AND OTHERS IN
jOiiS INDUSTRY PRODUCED. SSSSBffl! 5-15% ASBESTOS FIBER. THERE ARE ! AN ESTIMATED 30,000 GEEBIEFl. fjopl-z. im t/L r Cmp-
"PTHERE IS A THIRD CLASS OF WORKERS WHICH DESERVES COMMENT - WORKERS IN GOVERNMENT CONTROLLED ENVIRONMENTS, PRIMARILY WAR-TIME SHIPYARDS.
L/BY THE GOVERNMENT'S OWN FIGURES, OVER 4 MILLION PEOPLE FALL INTO
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' V THE DISTINCTION OF THE SHIPYARD WORKER IS VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE
' OF THE SHEER NUMBER OF PEOPLE INVOLVED AND THEIR INTENSE EXPOSURE
TO ASBESTOS. ALSO, THE EVIDENCE IS QUITE CLEAR THAT THE GOVERN
MENT FAILED TO TAKE RESPONSIBLE ACTIONS TO PROTECT ITS EMPLOYEES.
THE BURDEN OF FAIRLY COMPENSATING THESE GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES FALLS
ARELY UPON THE U.S. NAVY AND CONGRESS.
ME MOVE ON TO AN AREA THAT IN RECENT TIMES HAS HAD THE MOST PUBLICITY --LITIGATION AND ITS COROLLARY: THE STATE OF MEDICAL . KNOWLEDGE ABOUT ASBESTOS HEALTH HAZARDS.
TODAY JOHNS-MANVILLE IS A DEFENDANT IN OVER 3,000 LAWSUITS, INSUL
ATION WORKERS REPRESENT ABOUT ONE-HALF OF THOSE PLAINTIFFS, AND
SHIPYARD WORKERS AND,IN A FEW CASES,SPOUSES OR FAMILY MEMBERS OF
THOSE WORKERS REPRESENT THE OTHER HALF. AS YOU MAY KNOW, LITIGATION
IS BASED UPON A FINDING OF FAULT (TO USE A LEGAL TERM) AND WITH
RESPECT TO ASBESTOS RELATED DISEASE,
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DURING THOSE YEARS OF EXCESSIVE EXPOSURE THERE WAS NO AGREEMENT
AMONG THE MEDICAL PROFESSION, THE U.S. GOVERNMENT, UNIONS, THE
WORKERS, J-M AND OTHER ASBESTOS FIBER PRODUCERS OF ANY HEALTH HAZARD
BEYOND ASBESTOSIS. AND, THE^ASBESTOSIS DANGER WAS BELIEVED BY ALL
TO DISAPPEAR WITH THE REDUCTION OF DUST COUNTS TO LEVELS RECOMMENDED
BY THE U.S. PUBLIC HEALTH SERVICE IN 1938.
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IT IS IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE THE LEVEL OF KNOWLEDGE ABOUT ASBESTOS HEALTH HAZARDS DURING THE YEARS. THERE ARE ACTUALLY TWO Tiff PERIODS
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IN THE FIRST PERIOD THERE WAS GENERAL KNOWLEDGE THAT ASBESTOSIS EXISTED AMONG ASBESTOS FACTORY WORKERS, J-H WAS PAYING WORKERS COMPENSATION CLAIMS .FOR ASBESTOSIS TO ITS OWN FACTORY WORKERS # AS FAR BACK AS THE' 1930's AND EVERYONE INCLUDING THE MEDICAL PROFESSION/ INSURANCE COMPANIES, UNIONS AND WORKERS KNEW ABOUT IT.
9. ALSO IN THE 1930's, JOHNS-HANVILLE, OTHERS IN THE INDUSTRY AND OUR INSURANCE CARRIERS, UNDERWROTE MEDICAL STUDIES ON ASBESTOS-RELATED DISEASE, SEMINARS WERE CONDUCTED DURING THESE TIMES AND ATTENDED BY THE CHIEF OCCUPATIONAL MEDICAL OFFICER OF THE.U.S. PUBLIC HEALTH SERVICE AND HIS COUNTER-PART IN CANADA, REPORTS WERE PUBLISHED ONCE THE STUDIES WERE COMPLETE,
IN 1938, AS I SAID, THE U.S. PUBLIC HEALTH SERVICE PUBLISHED THE RESULTS OF ITS FIRST STUDY MADE SPECIFICALLY TO CHARACTERIZE ASBESTOSIS AND IDENTIFY A SAFE LEVEL OF EXPOSURE BELOW WHICH ONE WOULD NOT GET ASBESTOSIS. FROM THAT STUDY RECOMMENDED STANDARDS FOR WORKING ENVIRONMENTS WERE ESTABLISHED AND IT WAS BELIEVED . THAT THERE WAS NOT ANY DISEASE PROBLEM BEYOND ASBESTOSIS,
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^TRAGICALLY THESE RECOMMENDED STANDARDS FOR ASBESTOS DUST CONTROL LATER PROVED TO BE INADEQUATE. AND, DURING THE WAR AND INTO THE 1960's,THERE CONTINUED TO BE EXCESSIVE EXPOSURE TO ASBESTOS,
FURTHER, IN 194o THE GOVERNMENT UNDERTOOK AND PUBLISHED THE RESULTS
OF ANOTHER STUDY WHICH INDICATED THAT INSULATION WORK IN SHIPYARDS
WAS NOT A HAZARDOUS OCCUPATION.
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THERE WAS A CONSIDERABLE BODY OFHEDICAL KNOWLEDGE
INDICATING THAT ASBESTOS WAS A SAFE PRODUCT IN A CONTROLLED ENVIRON MENT AND POSED NO THREAT TO THOSE WORKING WITH ASBESTOS-CONTAINING INSULATION PRODUCTS.
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RISK OF DISEASE AMONG INSULATION WORKERS ANUDJe2f)tKeLUl?NSG l>C>AHNOCE^SRH0W1A4SisrA>N
ASBESTOS RELATED DISEASE, MAINLY CONFINED TO'CIGARETTESSLBKtNG
. WSHtSftS. EVERY STUDY SINCE THEN HAS SUPPORTED DR, SELIKOFF'S
FINDINGS AND RUNS COUNTER TO ALL FORMER KNOWLEDGE OF ASBESTOS AND
HEALTH.
p"bTeecMa-uris<ev/-OFPoJ*-He*eAN.flDiPVINADJUGS-TRY RESPONSE TO THEja1s96B4 eSgE*LIKOFF STUDY, THE IHetBii^F'NEW ASBESTOS-RELATED DISEASE HAS-BEEH MINIMAL SINCE THE
MID TO LATE 1960's. THAT RESPONSE HAS TAKEN THE FORM OF") IMPROVED MEDICAL SURVEILLANCE 2flMPR0VED EDUCATION OF WORKERS AS TO APPRO-'
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ASBESTOS CEMENT PIPE PLANT IN STOCKTON, CALIFORNIA, (NOW 2 YEARS OLD) THAT IHE^IIpSfoo^rAr^RE WORKING SINCE WE'VE HAD
ASBESTOSIS OR ASBESTOS-RELATED LUNG CANCER CASES AMONG-OUR WORKERS,
WHOSE ONLY EXPOSURE TO ASBESTOS HAS BEEN AT THIS LOCATION. WE DO
NOT KNOW PRECISELY WHAT THE DUST COUNTS WERE AT THE STOCKTON PLANT
DURING ITS EARLIER YEARS BUT WE BELIEVE THEY WERE AS HIGH OR HIGHER
THAN THE PRESENT OSHA STANDARD OF 2 FIBERS PER CUBIC CENTIMETER.
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ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO WE TOOK ANOTHER STEP WHICH WAS A FIRST FOR A
MAJOR CORPORATION. WE WINED SMOKING AT OUR ASBESTOS-USING FACILITIES
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SUCCESSFUL AND IS A CLEAR DEMONSTRATION OF OUR CONTINUING COMMITMENT
TO PROVIDE A SAFE WORKING ENVIRONMENT FO;
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0OUR CONCERN FOR*EMPLOYEES' HEALTH - A LON
ERN. CAUSES US
TO WINCE WHEN SOME REPORTER O^TONGRESSMAN SHOUTS THAT WE COVERED
UP THE HA7ARDS FROM OUR OWN EMPLOYEES WITH ALLEGATIONS THAT J-H C-aVEftEIOT KNOWLEDGEASBESTOS-RELATED DISEASE. HOWEVER, THE EVIDENCE SHOWS JUST THE OPPOSITE. J-M SPONSORED ONE MEDICAL STUDY ^>\>AFTER ANOTHER, IN FACT, 30 MAJOR PROJECTS TO FIND OUT THE SERIOUSNE 1 y3E THE PROBLEM. J-H ADOPTED EVERY CONCLUSION AND RECOMMENDATION OF fV THOSE .STUDIES AND LOWERED THE WORKPLACE EXPOSURE TO-OR. BELOW THE
STANDARDS ESTABLISHED. ADDITIONALLY, J-M ENGINEERED m PIONEERED, IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF OVER SOO^UST CONTROL PROCEDURES AND SYSTEMS"
OVER THE YEARS AT T^COST OF OVER $100 MILLION. THE FACTS SHOW
THAT J-M ACTED RESPONSIBLY AT ALL TIMES AND FULLY CONSISTENT WITH
AVAILABLE MEDICAL KNOWLEDGE.
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CG0`^ TO DATE, IN NONE OF THE CASEbPROCEEDING THROUGH TRIAL HAS A JURY AWARDED PUNITIVE DAMAGES, THE INDICATOR OF COVER-UP<? WE CONTINUE TO BELIEVE THAT COVER-UP ALLEGATIONS ARE WITHOUT BASIS IN FACT AND NO COURT SHOULD FIND US GUILTY OF SUCH CHARGES.
THE JUDGE OR JURY HAS FOUND IN OUR FAVOR INu_ OUT OF THE 1 AST LEGAL CASES PROCEEDING THROUGH TRIAL. IN THE TYPICAL CASE INVOLVING AN INSULATION WORKER WITH ASBESTOSIS THE JURY MUST #ULTIMATELY RESULVE TWO ISSUES: FIRST, AT WHAT POINT IN TIME WAS A HAZARD TO THE INSULATION WORKER REASONABLY FORESEEABLE THUS . GIVING RISE TO A DUTY TO WARN? SECOND, AFTER ANY SUCH DUTY AROSE, WERE REASONABLE PRECAUTIONARY STEPS TAKEN? RESOLVING THESE ISSUES IN ASBESTOS RELATED CASES IS HIGHLY COMPLEX AND IN THE CASES FOUND AGAINST US. WE BELIEVE THE JUDGEMENT WAS USUALLY THE RESULT OF
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AN EMOTIONAL NEED BY THE JURY TO RECOGNIZE THAT COMPENSATION WAS NEEDED FOR THE PLAINTIFF.
WHAT I HAVEN'T SAID AND WHAT WE SINCERELY FEEL, HOWEVER, IS THAT
. PREVAILING IN A MAJORITY OF THE LAW SUITS IN NO WAY ADDRESSES A ,^>"FAR MORE DESIRABLE GOAL THAT OF FAIRLY AND EQUITABLY COMPEN
SATING THOSE WHO HAVE SUFFERED IN THE PAST FROM THE INCOMPLETE
.. ^KNOWLEDGE OF THE DANGERS OF ASBESTOS EXPOSURE. THIS IS A FAR MORE
PRESSING NEED IN OUR MINDS.
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^ WE HAVE DEVOTED COUNTLESS HOURS OVER A LONG PERIOD WITH KEY ^Congressional leaders and regulators explaining the facts of the-
asbestos situation and our belief That some form of compensation : legislation is warranted, we will continue to actively promote -pTHIS SOLUTION BECAUSE IT WOULD PROVIDE THE MEANS FOR PROMPT AND ?tfrv^AIR SETTLEMENT VERSUS YEARS OF DELAY AS CASES Dg|\ THROUGH THE ,
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COURTS. ALSO, IT WOULD GIVE OUR OWN J-M EMPLOYEES A WAY TO PARTICIPATE IN EQUAL COMPENSATION. THEY ARE NOW ONLY COVERED BY WORKERS COMPENSATION AND EXCLUDED FROM THE THIRD PARTY LITI-
ALSO
GAT ION ROUTE. IT WOULD AVOID THE HIGH COSTS OF COURT ADMINIS TRATION AND ATTORNEY FEES* o "Both sV&es. .
WE HAVE%EN WP( ENCOURAGED LATELY BY THE RESPONSE WE HAVE
RECEIVED IN WASHINGTON. A NUMBER OF SENATORS AND CONGRESSMEN ARE OPTIMISTIC THATMUCH-NEEDED LEGISLATION ON ASBESTOS i
RELATED COMPENSATION IS FORTHCOMING.
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OR ELIMINATE ASBESTOS IN FINISHED PRODUCTS. A NUMBER OF THE
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REGULATIONS WHICH WOULD RESTRICT THE USE OF OR.ELIMINATE ASBESTOS ARE CURRENTLY BEING CONSIDERED IN WASHINGTON.WE BELIEVE THOSE .
PROPOSALS ARE NOT SUPPORTED BY THE WEIGHT OF SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE
AND SHOULD NOT BE ADOPTED.
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ADDITIONALLY. SUCH UNWARRANTED REGULATION WOULD DEPRIVE SOCIETY
OF PRODUCTS WHICH HAVE THE SUPERIOR PROPERTIES SUCH AS RESISTANCE
TO FIRE AND DETERIORATION AND STRENGTH ASBESTOS AFFORDS AND WHICH
J NEED POSE NO HEALTH HAZARD WHEN E ERLY INSTALLED AND USED.
,y\r FU, RTHER, IF THE USE OF ASBESTOS^' BANNED. THOUSANDS OF WORKERS WOULD LOSE TilTHl TilPI OYlirUTHITIIOIIT ANY CITT TTiMfi rfnffit to
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flANWfcfcE B&HtVES FlkliY IHAl ASBESTOS CAN BE USED AND WE WILL DEFEND THE RESPONSIBLE USE OF ASBESTOS SO LONG AS THE MEDICAL EXPERTS TELL US THAT ASBESTOS CAN BE PRODUCED AND SAFELY,
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ASSOCIATION OF MANUFACTURERS AND OTHER INDUSTRY GROUPS AREJ^ING ISSUE WITH THE PROPOSED REGULATIONSBECAUSE THEY RECOGNIZERS
A TEST CASE FOR FUTURE RULES ON SUSPECTED CARCINOGENIC SUBSTANCES
AND, THUS/ AN ISSUE WITH CONSEQUENCES FAR BEYOND OUR OWN ASBESTOS
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LET ME PUT ANY FEARS YOU MAY HAVE TO REST. THERE IS NO EVIDENCE
THAT ASBESTOS IN DRIWSflOfffER HAS ANY KIND OF IMPACT ON
INCREASING THE RISK OFSfeAW^ STUDIES ON POPULATIONS EXPOSED A i Gd ; 3
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' TO ASBESTOS IN DRINKING WATER FROM NATURAL SOURCES IN AREAS yA? WHERE^\SBESTOS IS A PART OF THE EARTH'S CRUST AND ON POPULATIONS
' RECEIVING DRINKING WATER THROUGH ASBESTOS-CEMENT PIPE HAVE
UNIFORMLY FAILED TO DEMONSTRATE ANY RISK ASSOCIATED WITH THE
INGESTION OF ASBESTOS IN WATER.
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// o sX^OClES ASBESTOS-CEMENT PIPE CONTRIBUTE ASBESTOS TO DRINKING WATER ' CONVEYED THROUGH IT?<^THIS PRODUCT HAS BEEN IN USE FOR OVER 50
YEARS AND HAS AN EXCELLENT^ CORD. AS LONG AS THE CEMENT BINDER
THE RELEASE, IF ANY, OF THE LOCKED-IN FIBER IS
HOWEVER, CERTAIN CORROSIVE OR AGGRESSIVE WATERS
TK ANY PIPING MATERIAL. WHERE THESE TYPE WATERS EXIST/
THE USE OF ASBESTOS-CEMENT PIPE IS NOT RECOMMENDED. IN MODERATE
AND NON-AGGRESSIVE WATERS, FIELD MEASUREMENTS CONFIRM EPA \\ LABORATORY RESULTS THAT A/C PIPE DOES NOT CONTRIBUTE SIGNIFICANT, 1
OR IN MANY CASES, EVEN 'MEASURABLE AMOUNTS OF ASBESTOS TO DRINKING
WATER CONVEYED THROUGH IT. THESE JUDGEMENTS HAVE BEEN CONFIRMED
BY SOME OF THE MOST RESPECTED AUTHORITIES IN THE WORLD.
0 al'1"" i'll. SINAI'S DR. IRVING SELIKOFF,-A-EEABTN6-RESEARCHER-4 N-ASBE&TOS-r-
im THAT-INSOFAR AS ASBESTOS-CEMENT PIPE FOR PUBLIC WATER SUPPLIES
IS CONCERNED, THERE IS NO DATA DEMONSTRATING A HAZARD.^THIS
. CONCLUSION IS SUPPORTED BY THE CANCER INSTITUTE.
& c.-j]'* IN SUMMARY, CAN ASBESTOS PRODUCE DISEASE? YES, THE EVIDENCE IS
CLEAR THAT INHALATION OF AN EXCESSIVE DOSE OF ASBESTOS IS
CONNECTED WITH DISEASE,
ih
IN A^TIMES GREATER CHANCE OF GETTING LUNG CANCER THAN NON-SHOKING ASBESTOS WORKERS.) K THERE A SAFE LEVEL OF
EXPOSURE? ALL OF OUR EVIDENCE TODAY INDICATES THAT THE PRESENT
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STANDARD OF.TWO FIBERS PER cc IN THE AIR IS A SAFE LEVEL. CAN
-rs-l^cjfiLL J-M STAY IN THE ASBESTOS BUSINESS? YES, WE WILL STAY IN l^THE ASBESTOS BUSINESS SO LONG AS MEDICAL EXPERTS KEEP TELLING
US THAT WE ARE NOT DOING ANYTHING TODAY WHICH WOULD CAUSE FUTURE DISEASE.
GENTLEMEN, LET ME NOW TURN THE MEETING BACK TO ChamfT
. WHO
WILL BRIEFLY DETAIL SOME OF THE PRACTICES AND PROCEDURES USED HERE
IN TO ASSURE OUR WORKER'S SAFETY. FOLLOWING
HIS COMMENTS WE WILL ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS.
.
(PLANT MANAGER) BRIEFLY REVIEWS GAINS MADE AT PLANT - DEMONSTRATES TESTING AND SAFETY EQUIPMENT - OUTLINES MEDICAL SURVEILLANCE PROGRAM - COVERS DETAILS ON WASTE DISPOSAL.
Q. AND A.
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