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FILE NAME: Metropolitan Life (ML)
DATE: 1952
DOC#: ML170
DOCUMENT DESCRIPTION: Pages from Dr. Lanza Talk at 7th Saranac Conference Re Asbestos & Cancer
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BY P C /TOH RHOADS* Thank you, D octor M arew ether.
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which I th in k e l l o f us m igh t keep in r i n d , and w hich m igh t j
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and n o t lo n g ago, Epent s e v e ra l days w ith D o c to r Kenneth
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jU a t l a th e n a tu re o f the a s b e s to s l t e e l f . Now, When I t i n t u sed to go to Canada, I used to b o ar fre q u e n tly t h a t , up tx io ro , t i `* t th e C anad ian aB beotoo was I b b s damaging th an th e k in d th ey used In E n g la n d ,! b e li e v e , and I have put t h a t comment down to w hat we m ight c a l l th e n a t io n a l o r l o c a l p a t r i o t i s m , you know, l i k e the r i v a l r y betw een tow n, .o th a t you so fre q u e n tly s e e , b u t the f a c t rem ains th . sam e, t h a t i n t h i s c o u n tr y , we do u se th e a o b a a to a , m oatly th e a s b e s t o s t h a t wo g e t from Canada, and I b e l i e v e , fr < u whet I hear from our B n g li- fr ie n d , th a t 4 g ro a t d e * l, i f n o t the m ajor p a r t o f the a sb e sto s u -*d in England, 1 m iod ssin n a s b e s to s , which i s q u ite d is s im ila r In i t # con s tr u c tio n and in i t fo rm atio n , I t # p h y s ic a l c h a r a c te r !* t i c s , t o tho k in d t h a t come Trom T h e tr o r d and from aB bo a-
to a in Canada* Mow, t h a t may h av e n o t h in g t o do w ith i t , and up
x m t i l two o r t h r o e y e a r s a g o , I d ie m is s o d t h a t . I th o u g h t t h a t w as j u e t r n r l l o , b u t s i n c e we h a v e i n th e l a s t few y o o ra , lot-m u d th a t d iffe r e n t typos o f s i l i c a , fo r la s t m o#. ' p r o d u c e e n t i r e l y d i s t i n c t p a t h o l o g i c a l o f f o a t , I cm b o g in n l .,ig t o w o n d er i f we h av e n o t f a i l o d t o pay s u f f i c i e n t a t t e n t i o n to t h e ty p e o f a s b * * v , s n ie h v a r i e s e v e n , a s X cm in fo rm e d , th e r e i s a d lf f e -nee betw een the a sb e sto s th a t i s m in ed i n t h e town o f A s b e s to s *uid th e k in d , t h a t l a m ined
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Interest in chroma ns a ..eaibla carcin'/enic
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the statistical survey conducted by Hachlo find Gregorius, j
sad published, in the Public Health Reports on August 27th,lA!i.S*