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GARY AUSTIN Page 66 Page 68 | 1 MR. CELBA: Object to form. 1 form. 2 THE WITNESS: I have no knowledge of that. 2 BY MR. VALLAS: 3 BY MR. VALLAS: 3 Q If that's not what you're telling me, just say no, 4 Q Okay. In other words, let me ask you this, do you 4 Mr. Valias, you misunderstood me. 5 think after spending 35 years with Dana corporation 5 MR. CELBA: I still object. 6 that if there was another company manufacturing or 6 MR. VALLAS: He can answer the question. I 7 distributing gaskets under the name Victor for at 7 appreciate that. 8 least the years that you've been with the company 8 THE WITNESS: Once again, you've asked the 9 here in the U.S. that you would have known about it. 9 question in a manner that I guess-- 10 or do you-- Would you have been in a position with 10 BY MR. VALLAS: 11 the company to know about that? 11 Q Okay. 12 MR. CELBA: Object to form. 12 A You're saying anywhere in the Navy, then we're back 13 THE WITNESS: I really wouldn't have 13 to internal combustion engines and diesel engines. j 14 necessarily been in a position to know that. 14 Q Let me withdraw the question and ask this, Mr. 15 BY MR. VALLAS: 15 Mathias and a coworker of his testified that they 16 Q Never heard of another company doing it? 16 worked as boiler technicians, when they were working 17 A No, sir. 17 as boiler technicians in the U.S. Navy, on U.S. Naval 18 Q If Mr. Mathias in this case testified that he saw and 18 vessels, between 1961 and 1965, that they worked with 19 worked with Victor gaskets in the Navy at some time 19 Victor gaskets, do you have any reason to dispute 20 between 1961 and 1965, would you have any reason to 20 that the Victor gaskets they said they were working 21 dispute it? 21 with were anyone else's other than you all's? 22 MR. CELBA: I'm going to object to the 22 MR. CELBA: Object to the form. 23 form. 23 THE WITNESS: In the context that it was in 24 THE WITNESS: I guess the only thing I can 24 their normal duties of working with boilers, I would 25 say is that we are in the internal combustion engine 25 find it very unusual that they would have encountered Page 67 Page 69 1 and diesel engine business, so if he were taking 2 apart an engine, that's about all I can, you know, I 3 can say. 4 BY MR. VALLAS: 5 Q Okay. So, well, if he wasn't working on an engine-6 Til give a-- Let's look at my notes, and Til tell 7 you what he was doing. He was a boiler technician on 8 a couple of ships in the Navy between 1961 and 1965, 9 and both he and a guy he worked with in the Navy said 10 that they worked with Victor gaskets during that time 11 period on U.S. Naval vessels as boiler technicians. 12 You got any reason to dispute that it wasn't you 13 all's product that they were working with? 14 MR. CELBA: Object to form. 15 THE WITNESS: I don't know. Since-- 16 Certainly since I've been with the company I don't 17 recall ever having applications that I would 18 anticipate you're speaking of. I guess that would be 19 what I would say to that. 20 BY MR. VALLAS: 21 Q Okay. So I guess from 1968 through the present you 22 don't have any understanding of any Dana Victor 23 gaskets being used in naval applications; is that 24 what you're telling me? 25 MR. CELBA: I'm going to object to the 1 Victor gaskets. I 2 BY MR. VALLAS: 3 Q Whafs the basis for that understanding? 4 A I can't recall an application that we had made that 5 was that type of application. Once again, we're in 6 the engine business. 7 Q Okay. When you got there in 1968 have you ever gone 8 back and reviewed all the documents to try to get an 9 understanding of all the different applications 10 that-- of all the different applications that Dana 11 Victor gaskets either were intended to be used for or 12 could have been used for prior to the time that you 13 started there? 14 MR. CELBA: Object to form. 15 THE WITNESS: I've reviewed a number of 16 documents in relationship to our applications of 17 gaskets. 18 BY MR VALLAS: 19 Q Yes, sir. 20 A And I do not see anything there in my review that 21 would indicate a boiler type of application. 22 Q You have reviewed what you consider to be- You 23 reviewed documents that preexisted or that predate ! 24 the commencement of your employment with Dana Victor? 25 A I've reviewed some documents. There are literally Henjum Goucher Reporting Services 1-888-656-DEPO 18 (Pages 66 to 69)