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i 'inutea GENERAL FBBTTNG *\ Asbestos Textile Institute June 4, 1965 Kotel Le Trovence, Thetford lines, Canada IN ATTENDANCE: AJ'ERICAH A3BBST0S TEXTILE CORP. h.k. roRTER corrAiJY, inc. J.W. Weber J.T. Griffis J.L. Rainey J.D. FcCluer G.S. Pabel D.E. Childers J.W. Christenbury iAn. Faaskant RAYBESTOS-i Ai UIATTAW, INC. D.p. Quealy J.A. Drown, Jr. L.C. Williams ASBESTOS CORPORATION LTD. J.P. Wronski. G.P. Jenkins F.W. Oliver P.B. LeClere (A.C.S. Ltd.) R.3. Smith E.L. Alexander (A.C.S. Ltd.) J.W. Ilawkins W.W. Oughtred M.P.Carson TALLMAN-i-C CLUSKEY PABRICS CO. A.L. Penhale Ted D. McCluskey G.P.A. Brink F.C. Pharo TURNER & IfflWALL LTD. Bernard Lincoln BELL ASBESTOS FINES LTD. G.W. Smith U.S. RUBBER COiTANY r P.T. Smith Wm.J.W. Smith A.C. Link D.T. Austin, Jr. R. Dodds-Hebron S.J. Peele, Jr. Norman L. Barr B.D. Hubbard J.H. Wolfsie (Dr.) CASSIAP. ASBESTOS CORP. J.D. Christian BRITISH BELTING & ASBESTOS LTD. W. Gritzuk J.L. f itchell T.T. Tigert R. Farson (Ontario Research CADWALADER.WICI^RSIIAF & TAFT Foundation) T.Jay Plocken (Legal Counsel ) JOIINS-FAIJVILLE CORT. W.S. Hough E.A. Schuman W.C. Atkinson C.L. Sheckler Dr. K.W. Smith ASBESTOS TETT-LE INSTITUTE il.E. Sunbury (Exec. Secretary) SOCJETE ANONYFE FRAjJCAISE DU FERODO ionsieur Collineau " Decaestecker LAKB ASBESTOS OP OUEBEC LTD. F.J. Messel E.A. Farrell K.W. Nelson U.S. PUBLIC HEALTH SERVICE Dr. L.J. Cralley JOHNS-MANVILLE CO. OF CAnAUA LTD. n.W. Hendry ** GUESTS ** r Karl V. Lindell, Chairman, Canadian Johns-;lanville Co., Ltd. J.O.Eby.Vice Pres.?: Genl.i gr. ,Jef frey I line,Can. Johns-Fami lie Co.Ltd. R. Gagnon, Lake Asbestos of ''uebec, Ltd. L. Piu2e, Fine F.gr., Lake Asbestos of Ouebec, Ltd. ! .J. Fessel, President, Lake Asbestos of Quebec, Ltd. A.L. Penhale, Chairman F President, Asbestos Corporation Ltd. G.F. Jenkins, Director, Asbestos Corporation Ltd. f W V CHMYWd linutes - General Mwtlag *- continued: - 2 Guests: L. Mantpetit, Manager, Micolet Asbestos Mines Ltd. Ivan Sabotirin, q.C. Montreal C.B. Broun, Bell Asbestos Mines Ltd. J.A.D. Maxcotte, Director, Asbestos Corporation Ltd. Dr. R.J lerrill, Mgr., Carey-Canadian Mines Ltd. F.P. Hodgson, Manager, Flintkote Mines Ltd. 1. Lachan . n.A.M.A. Dust Engineer, Thetford Industrial Clinic R.S. Coleman, Manager, National Asbestos Mines Ltd. Dr. L.J. Cralley, U.S. Public Health Service, Cincinnati, Ohio Dr.K.W. Smith,Medical Director, Johns-Manvilie Corp.,New York, N.Y. Dr .J .Il.Wolfsie, Medical Director,United States Rubber Co.,New York,UY Mr.N.L.Barr,Director,Bell Asbestos l!ines Ltd.,Sales Mgr.,Atlas Asb.Co Dr. R. Marson, Director, Ontario Research Foundation N. Gritzuk, Asst, to the Genl. Mgr., Cassiar Asbestos Corp., Ltd. Dr. Paul Cartier, Thetford Industrial Clinic, Thetford Mines Geo. S. Pabel, American Asbestos Textile Corp. A. Collineau, Societe Anonyme Francaise Du Ferodo M. Decaestecker, " ' """ In addition to the above guests we were privileged to have thir ty ladies accompany their husbands to our luncheon on Friday, June 4i . --- Minutes of the Meeting --- ^ 1. The meeting was called to order by President J.A. Drown, Jr.f who expressed our appreciation for the opportunity of holding th is meeting in Thetford Mines, and thanked our hosts. Asbestos Corpora tion, Ltd.; Dell Asbestos lines Limited; Canadian Johns-Manvi lie Co., Ltd.; Cassiar Asbestos Corporation Limited; and Lake Asbestos of Que bec Limited, for their wonderful hospitality and meticulous handling of the many details incidental to the meeting. The miners' committee who handled the local arrangements consisted of M.r. Carson, Asbestos Corp.; 11.W. Hendry of Can. Johns-Manville Co.; Roland Gagnon, Lake Asbestos of Quebec; Wm.J.W. Smith of Dell Asbestos Mines representing Cassiar Asbestos Carp.; and F.Parke* Smith, Dell Asbestos . ines, who was Chairman of the committee. To all of these gentlemen we extend individual thanks for a job that was exceedingly well done! President Drown then introduced a number of the special guests who were attending this meeting, following which he explained that due to the fact that some of the nen had to leave before noontime in or der to catch a midafternoon flight out of Montreal, the usual agai da had been reversed to enable them to hear our several guest speakers. 2. Our first sneaker was Mr. M.J. Messel, President of Lake Asbestos of Quebec, Limited, who welcomed the re nbers of A.T.I. with these re marks: "President Brown, Members of A.T.I., Guests: It is a pleas ure, on behalf of the Canadian Asbestos jiners, to welcome you to asbestos country with its ;nan-">aide mountains and to tell you how pleased and honoured we are to have you hold your meeting in Thetford f*' t ines. While I have not been very active in A.T.I., I have followed its work very closely through the reading of the fine and corprehensive re ports which your Secretary so ably ruts together. I have also fol lowed closely the cooperative work which your technical connittees have been doing with the Quebec Asbestos . ining Association, viiich ALv 0003575 ** -V Miaotes - 8*anflL'Meeting* continued: - 3- is much appreciated and mutually beneficial. 1 know the work of an association such as yours is a difficult one due to wide range and complexity of problems that have to be dealt with and wiah to con gratulate yonr association in the splendid and effective way that it conducts its affairs and copes with your industry problems. As yt-t there is no shortage of Group 3 spinning fibres from the mines in Canada, rs I can still see plenty of order-takers around. How ever, there ~-e indications of possible shortages in some of the as bestos cement grades. At one time the spinning fibre grades were the mainstay of the asbestos producing industry, but this has now been supplanted by the asbestos cement fibre grades together with expanded uses of the shorter fibres. During 1964, the Canadian Asbestos producing industry employed over 6000 people and exported approximately 1,333,000 tons of asbestos with an approximate gross value of $155,000,000. Of this total only 34,6^7 tons were crude and spinning grades with an approximate total value of $14,000,000, The U.S.A. market consumed approximately 14,600 tons of crudes and spinning fibres with a value of approxi mately $6,400,000, and this has remained rather constant for the oast 3 or 4 years. The only other large suppliers of spinning fibres are Russia and Rhodesia. The figures we obtained during our visit to Russia would indict`e approximately 20 to 25 thousand tons of spin ning fibres out of an estimated total production of 1,600,000 t>ns; so Canada still :olds its dominant position as supplier of textile fibres. The cooperative work that is being carried on for iirrroved fibre testing ae thods and standards should lead to a better understanding between the producing and consuming asbestos industries. t'r. Sabourin, as attorney for ".A.M.A., will tell you somethin of the work that is being considered with resnect to the health of the workers in our industry. I feel there should be room for cooperative work between the A.T.I. and '.A.r'.A. I hope your visit among us will be a most hapry and pleasxi t one and will result in a better understanding of our mutual rcoblems, aid I know the Local Committees of A.T.I. and the Canadian Asbestos Liners have done a splendid job in making your stay amongst us both hapny and memorable." President Brown then introduced Dr. Kenneth W. Smith, Medical Director of Johns-Lanville Corrtration, who stressed the desirabili ty, indeed the necessity, of the asbestos industry telling the truth about the health of its employees and giving me aningful reports as to company experience. He pointed out that some of the more prolific writers on 60-called "asbestosis" have relatively little background of actual "cases" on which to base their theories or conclusions, as compared with our collective and also individual company experience over many years time. Dr. Smith urged full cooperation on the Part of various companies to open their records, and full cooperation with the work of the U.S. Public Health Service. lie stated that the general overall health of Johns-fanville longtine employees compared r favorably with industry in general, and pointed to the steadily ex panding membership in their 25 year club as evidence of this fact. / 4. President Brown then introduced Mr. Karl V. Lindell, Chairman, Canadian Johns-tanville Co., Ltd,, who expressed his pleasure at hav- / ing the opportunity to attend this meeting, and-.said that he would '/ line to have tr. Ivan Sabourin, ^.C., attorney fer the O.A.. .A.,tell uo about the work that has been done in past years to protect the ALV 0003976 Hlnut*rofii&ti >ktini - eoothraM^ 4 . health of asbestos workers, and about the outline planned for the newly foriMd Q.A.N.A. program for Research in Mining Pathology for the Studg of Respiratory Diseases as related to Chrysotile Asbestos. Some of the very interesting points brought out by Mr. Sabourin were: In the year 1939 the mining industry started X-raying their employe- a at regular intervals in order to safeguard their health. The North Carolina State Board of Health was contacted to compare methods fo. dustcounting and for X-ray procedures. Also worked with those hocrii&ls in Canada that had compiled background experience in the field of respiratory diseases. raid tribute to Or. Paul Cartier of the Thetford Industrial Clinic, pointing cut that Or. Cartier had contributed many valuable papers and reports on asbestosis over a span of many years. Also that Dr. Grainger of Canadian Johns-Manville Co, Ltd,, Dr. George Wright of Cleveland, and Dr. A.J. Voiwald of Detroit deserved much credit for their work and contributions to the increasing fund of general knowledge regarding asbestosis. Stressed that the mining industries reouire their doctors to keep up with the work being dene by others on pneu-soconiosis research, and to attend meetings both here and abroad, and participate in the dis cussions at those meetings. He stated with great emphasis that the knowledge possessed by the industry's doctors on the biological ef fects of chrysotile asbestos was not surpassed elsewhere in the world. Mentioned that contacts have been made with doctors in Rus sia, Bast Germany, Pinland, Italy, England and other countries. Repressed his belief that cancer is not necessarily involved due to association with asbestos. Pointed out that the A.i-.A. article that appeared only about two weeks ago was not convincing - only informa tive - indicates much further work is needed - regrets adverse pub licity that results from such articles. Expressed the opinion that while the welfare of the worker should be the responsibility of management, we need to know more about the vn.vker's environment after he leaves the plant. Explained that the Q.A.l.A. program is still in the formative stape. They seek alliance with some university, such as DcGiii, for exmple, sc that authoritative background for publicity can be nad. The ,<rogram will start modestly, with competent men coming into it - men with a v&st background of actual experience. They recognize the need to consolidate experiences, and also having traveled widely in other countries, they `find that research units are usually located adjacent to a X rge, well equipped hospital. Frequently, the worker has a condition that is not attributable to association witn asbestos, dis covered through cooperation with the hospitr.l sta*f. I i conclusion fir. Sabourin expressed the thought that it would be wonderful if the Asbestos Textile Institute could join their efforts to the Q.A.fi.A. program for the benefit of all - deplored the isola tion of efforts and pocr liaison between research laboratories and research units. Suggested that a common-council as a governing body might be the answer and result in more rapid progress. 5. The next speaker was Dr. L.J. Cralley, ofthe U.S. Public Health Service, who for the past several years has been supervising the ex tensive Environmental Study of asbestos employees in textile plants in the U.S.A. Dr. Cralley said that the Stud" was going well, and fine cooperation from both management and employees has been experi enced. The U.S. Public Health Service is now extending their worl: into other asbestos industries such as asbestos-cement, etc. Feels that the results to date certainly justify the program and its fur ther expansion. ALV 0003A7? PiautM enarsl Mmting continued! - 5 - In other areas of activity the U.S.P.H. Service presented a paper at the recent American Industrial Conference at Houston, Texas, which summarized their study experience in five plants. Draft copies of two papers were distributed to our Air Hygiene Committee on June 3rd. The first paper by Jereaiah D. Lynch of the Dept, of Health, Educa tion and Welfare, titled "Asbestos Study - Procedure and Findings" and the second paper, titled "Relationship of Iopinger Counts to Fibre Concentration by Membrane Filters in Asbestos Textile Pk nts". (Both of these papers are covered more fully in the report of oir Air Hygiene & Mfg. Ooanittee which is attached to these minutes.) Dr. Cralley plans to speak at Seminars frequently in the future, such as Uhiversity of Texas, insurance companies, etc. Mentioned that since the conference on "Biological Effects of Asbestos", held in New York last October, the New York Academy of Sciences has now established a "Division of Environmental Sciences". At the conclu sion of his talk Dr. Cralley answered several questions from the audience* 6. President Brown then asked fir. H.W. Hendry, General Sales Mana ger for Canadian Johns-Manville Asbestos Limited, to report for the Fibre Committee. Air. Hendry stated that inventories of spinning fibre are ample but substantially below the levels cf one year ago. Demand for Group 3 fibres remained relatively flat in 1964 in most countries of the world *ith the exception of cne U.S. and Europe. The increase in demand in the latter area was considerably greater than in the U.S. Business conditions in Japan are fair, Italy poor, Germany fair, United Kingdom good, and the remainder of Europe relatively good in the asbestos textile and asbestos-cement fields. It is expected, however, that the second half of 1965 will show an improves nt over the first half in those areas of the world in which business condi tions have been below average. The average reduction in the -200 mesh McNett contort of spinning fibres from 1953 to 1965 is in the order of 50 - 75 per cent. New asbestos fibre production projected from new properties in Cana da includes the Clinton Creek property of Cassiar in 1968, Asbestos Hill of Asbestos Corporation in 1970, and the possible Reeves proper ty of J.M. in Northern Ontario. This new production will supply the asbestos-cement market orincipally. Russian production in 1964 at 1,600,000 tons exceeded that of Canada for the first time and fj is trend is expected to continue An the forward years. 7. Mr. T'.Jay Plocken, our Legal Counsel, on being introduced by President Brown, gave an interesting talk on the subject of "Reci procity and Antitrust Law Enforcement in Relation to Reciprocity". A brief summary of his remarks follows: The subject of reciprocity is receiving renewed interest from antitrust enforcement agencies. Reciprocity generally is the practice whereby companies make concess ions to one another in order to promote their own business interest. The most common form of reciprocity is reciprocal buying. Although several recent merger cases which in part involved attacks on recip rocal buying practices, no court has yet held nor has the government yet charged that such practices are illegal in and of themselves. Except for one merger case still pending in the courts, no government antitrust suit has challenged reciprocal practices as illegal and unreasonable restraints of trade or anticompetitive practices with out also attacking some other conduct. While it is still an open question, therefore, whether such practices may be_illegal without ALV 0003976 Hinutaa - GaQvral Mating . eontinned: . 6 - evidence of other anticompetitive conduct, it seems likely that in the near future reciprocity will be made the sole target of a govern ment antitrust suit. This discussion included consideration of the recent decision by the United States Suoreme Court upholding the PTC ruling against the acquisition by Consolidated foods Corper ation of Gentry, Inc. Other merger cases discussed included the G.i. Diesel locomotive case; the General Dynamics Corporation case, the Ingersoll Rand Company case, *ad the Reynolds Tobacco Company-Peniclc & ford. Ltd. case. 8. The Report of Punds was presented by E.A. Schuman, Treasurer, and is attached to these minutes. 9. It was moved by S.J. Peele, Jr., that the reading of minutes of the last meeting be omitted - seconded by E.L. Alexander so voted. 10. The Committee Reports as made by their respective chairmen are attached to these minutes. J.P. Wronski gave the report for the Fibre Testing Committee as its chairman, 1. Barnett, could not attend this meeting. 11. President Brown welcomed J.L. Mitchell as a representative of British Belting & Asbestos, Ltd., stating that wevere greatly pleased that he would be in regular attendance at our meetings. 12. President Drown announced that our next meeting would be held on the 7th and 8th of October, (arrival on the 6th) and tentative location was Hotel Ilershey, Iiershey, Penna. Subsequent to the meet ing, it was found that the Hotel Hershey could not accommodate our meeting on those particular dates, and it has been decided to hold the October meeting at "The INN", Buck Ilill Palls, Penna., October 6-8th. The IM1 is a famous hostelry delightfully located in the scenic Pocono Mountains. It should be an ideal time of year to be there, with autumn foliage at its height. Located 100 miles from either New York or Philadelphia, it nay be reached by Erie-Ladc awanna train to Cresco (3 miles to INN). Limousine meets all trains. By air there is commercial service to Scranton-Wilkes Darre or Allentown-Dethlehem-Baston Airports. Private or chartered planes nay land at Fount Pocono Airp<rt. Cy car from New Yorl; cr Philadelphia is a three hour drive over excellent roads. The INN operates on the Amer ican Plan, and the daily rates, including all meals, is Double Room $19-$21 per person; Single Room $20-$22 per person; single occupancy of <buble room $25 per person. SO -- HARK YOUR CALENDAR - "The__INN", Buck Hill Palls. Pa.. October 6th to 8th ----- and briuc~vour WIPE! 13. President Brown paid tribute to A.J. Scanlan, Treasurer of the Institute in 1953 and 1954, and Yice President in 1959-1960, who passed away on February 13, 1965. President Drown stated that is had sent a letter of sympathy to Mrs. Scanlan at direction of the Board of Governors of the Institute and had received a nice letter from her in reply. He then asked the members to observe a moment of silence in memory of "Ank" Scanlan. ALV 00Q357A