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ASBESTOS TEXTILE INSTITUTE General Meeting
June 7, 1973 Key Dridge Marriott, Arlington, Virginia
In Attendance
71UVTEX GOnPOPVTIOH ' W. Maaakant
M. J. Scanlon II. II. Walter
GARLOCX INC. S. G. Dixit A. Kuznuk
JONNS-MANVILLE COnPOPvATIOK C. G. Guerin T. P. Jackson J. P. Power (C.J-M) W. B. Reitze W. C. Streib
NICOLET INDUSTRIES, INC. E. VI. P.ussell J. K. VTiittaker
H. K. PORTER COJ1PANY, E. c. Eratt D. E. Childero J. W. Echercl L. E. Moody
INC.
payeestos-maniiattah , i:jc . M. M. Brooks J. W. Franpton, Jr. J. V7, Kav/kinn R. T. Matthew M. Q. Sccwcroft I. H. Weaver
UNIROYAL, INC. w. D. Rittinaer 3. E. Carden L. F. Dieringcr E. A. Morris
arsTO. COMPONATICN LTD
p. E. Leclerc
13ELL ASPESTOS MINES LTD. U. H. Smith
LAKE ASDECTOS OF OUEEEC LTD. E. A. Farrell R. Lefebvro C E. Stiefkcn (Asnrco)
MANUFACTURAC. MULTIPLES S.A. n. Arnal Olivo
C.ADUALADER, UICKEESrAM & TAFT E. J. Leff
AMERICAN SOCIETY FOR TESTING AND MATERI'vLS
P. 0. Nicodenus
ASEFSTCS TEXTILE INSTITUTE D. M. Tacan, Executive Secretary
GUESTS OF THE A.T.I.
Asberit S.A. Marchnllo Cattaneo Adorno
Asbestos Information Association/ North America
Matthew m. rwotonic
Industrial Safety Eqnipr.cnt Association
Charles N. Fnnz/nlt, 7r.
M.S. Bureau or Minns Robert A. Clifton
Total attendance during the two-day nesting was G people, including 10 woneri and 3G non - representing 10 companies or associations.
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!i I IT U T n s
1. The General Mooting of the Asbestos Textile Institute wan caller! to order by President Ji. Q. Ccowcroft at 1:00 P.M., Juno 7, 1073.
2. President Scovcroft welcomed the Members and guests in atten
dance and introduced four guests? namely, Matthew fi. Swetonic,
Executive Secretary, Asbestos Information Association/Porth America?
Marchcllo Cattaneo Adorno, A.sborit E.A.; Hobort A. Clifton, Division
of Monnctallic Minerals, U.C. Curcau of Mines; and Charles
Sun-
wait, Jr., Secretary/Treasurer, Industrial Safety Fguipment
Association, and member of its Safety Wearing Apparel Product Croup.
3.`Following past tradition. President Scovcroft asked each number in attendance to rise and state his name and company affiliation.
4. President Scov?crot called for the reading of the minutes of the last stated General liceting. It wan moved by A. T'.uzmuk, seconded by T. P. Jackson, and so carried, to dispense with the reading of same.
5. Treasurer Z. A. Morris presented the Uenort of Funds of the Institute as of April 30, 1973. C. F. Gtiefben rov-.d the report bo accepted. The notion was seconded by S. G. Dixit and so voted, unanimously. A copy of the full hoport is attached to these Minutes.
C. In the absence of
P., Alcorn, the Legal Counsel address ''as
given by Eugene J. Luff of C.adwnlader, Pickershan r, Taft. The full
text of his report is attached hereto. Mr. Loff discussed two
cases -- one concerned with the illegal division of the narkot,
and the other noting a connection between anti-trust violations and
the private exercise of governmental power.
7. IT. H. Smith, Technical r, Sales representative, Dell Asbestos Mines Ltd., delivered the Fibre Producers' Report (sou attached), Mr. Smith stated that crudes and ultra-long spinning fibers continue to bo in short supply but medium and short spinning fibers from Grades 3F to 3" arc in fair supply from most producers. ;'o shortage
in these grades is foreseen for the romainil a of this year and a chance in the situation is not indicated, a. the pras-`nt tire, for 19741
0. Tursuant to calling for Committee F.aports by the rcmnietivc Cljairr.cn, President Gcovcroft advised that C. G. Guerin had replaced I. Darnott on the ATI Technical Committee.
9. The following reports of ATI activities at the Committec level ''arc presented by the respective Ckairnan to the general ru.-rd oruhip A copy of each report is attached himto, i.u.:
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Mr Hygiene s .Manufacturing - E. r. Carden, Cljairrran; Asbestos Advisory - E. 17. Russell, Chairman; Technical - J. W. Echerd, Chairman; Fiber Research & Testing - C. 2. Eticfken, Chairman; Environmental Health - L. F. Diaringor, Chairman.
10. It was related by President Scowcroft that recent technological breakthroughs in basic yarn production techniques have influenced the Institute to seek wider representation in its nenhorship. It -was reported that ns a result, the ATI Hoard of Governors had approved a change in the Constitution and By-Jbavs of the Institute involving Associate Membership requirements. Article III, Para graph 2(c) of the Constitution has been revised as follows: "those weavers of asbestos-containing fahrics and tapes, for resale as such, who do not manufacture the asbestos-containing yarns used in same, shall be eligible for Associate Membership in this Institute.1
11. President Scowcroft referred to the now identification cards that had been giver, to each norther in attendance, asking that they be returned to the Executive Secretary for use at future, nvotings.
12. As stated by President Scowcroft, there seers to bo semo diffi culty with the postal process in that some reservation cards are not arriving at ATI .headquarters. In an endeavor to avoid undue? prohlc,-'; at future meetings, it was advised that each nen! or who makes a reservation with the Executive Secretary would receive a '->ricf acknowledgment within approximately ten days' tine. If sano does not arrive in duo course, it would bo well to so advise the Gccrr.-- tnry.
13. The next General Meeting of the '.sbestos Textile institute will be hold:
October 3--51, 197 3 My cl mere Harbor Club, :1nrwic'.,.port, Massachusetts
Guest Speaker will bci }>r. J. Corbett McEonald, Epidemiologist McGill University, and Medical Adviser to the pueNic Asbestos liining Association.
H. President Ucoucroft advised that every 'ffort is *.i.n...g.. n. .a..cv.io^ to oblige the wishes of the mem.'.orsaip-at-lerg.-- by scheduling, `'hen-
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15. before introducing the Guest Mponkor, President Gcovcroft re ferred to five kooklots that wort: distributed prior to calling the
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meeting to order. Just oJif the press, the booklets wore published by tho AIA./:JA and are entitled: The Asbestos Information Associa tion/North America, thnt Asbestos Is--T.'ox^ And '..'here It Is Used, Asbestos And Health, Questions and Answers---Asbestos Anri Health, and Protecting The Asbestos 'Worker, .tingle copies of the booklets arc available from the AIA/MA, 22 Mast 40th street, ?;<.w York, Vnv York 1001C [bulk-.rates on reorient].
IS. President Scowcroft introduced the. Guest Tpoakcr: Matthew *. Swetonic, Executive Secretary, Asbestos Information Association/ North America. Mr. Swetonic (whoso profile is. attached) discussed the AIA/i.'A, its formation, its history and the .work it is doincr on behalf of the asbestos industry ir. tho United f'tatos. l> also talked about tho impact of 0SI1A and FIFA regulations to control the amount of asbestos dust in the atmosphere. I*e discussed, the ques tion: Why has the Asbestos Industry boon singled out by government, the press and various conservative groups? I!o stated that the industry is passing through a crisis period in the U.r.. and that closer tics between trade associations would bo beneficial. .Mr. Swotonic advised that he has been talking with the press about asbestos and health since 19G0 and that out of 1." 3-175 reporters, only 2 were over 35. \.'e aro dealing with a young and idealistic group, he said. From a survey taken of the awareness and attitudes toward the use of asbestos, it was discovered that asbestos is
relatively unknown to the general public. Tho situation changes little between urban end. rural areas. It was interesting to note
that the survey indicated that those in the in-? 5 ago bracket know
little about asbestos but that awareness increased in those inter viewed who were between 40 and 43 years of ago. A copy of Mr. Gwo. tonic's presentation, in its entirety, is attached, to thiso Minutes.
17. There being no further business to be brought before th.
m-.i.'l'.ership,
tho mooting was
adjourned
at approximately
2:00
n *1
as per a notion by H. A.. Farrell, seconded by m, a. Morris, nncT.
unanimously approved by tho attending numbers.
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Hespectfully subnit ted,
fyo-c* / //'/ :./c*risr^s
Doris M. Kagan, Executive f-eor^t..,-y
ilQTF: Tnclosrd, herewith is your copy of the Constitution and BvLaws of the Asbestos Textile Institute, revised as of Juno S, 173. Paragraph ? of the ny-bnwa (png., 7) is subject to approval by the Interna! Mcvonue Service,
asbestos textile institute
Report of funds ns of April 30, 1073
Balance on Hand January 2, 1973 --
General Fund Reserve Fund Potty Cash Tund
Total on Hand .
.
S 1,39*.33 0,035.00
ion. m
S 9,533.82
Receipts
To reserve Fund -- , Interest adjustment to 12/31/72
Dues for Year 1373 To General Fund --
Booh Pales Insurance Credits
. Gi 14,250.00
115.29 37.00
Total Receipts .
$ 14,402.30
5 ?.3,99.13
Disbursements
Rental of Office Space (S months)
$ 270.00
Telephone (4 months)
.
II..7. Employment Tax (4th Otr 1972)
Federal Income Tax (4th Otr 1972)
rederal Unemployment Tax (Year 1972)
Federal Incore/PICA Taxes (1st Qtr 1973)
To. Unemployment Tax (1st otr 1273)
Pa. Income Tax (1st otr 1973)
Secretary's Hat Wr.csn (0 months)
135.97 33.75 70.00 15.03
152.0? 5.25
12.09 503.00
Insurance for Rev Office quarters
Postage, Printing, office Supplies, ate. Revision of Fibre Tost Manual
145.00
210.29 25.02
Legal Services f Expenses (4th Otr 1572)
C^7.4G
Secretary's Travel Expense (2/72 moating)
175.19
Petty Cash vouchers 501-iC
_______22.05
Total Disbursements . * ............................................. 0 2,295.21
2 21,302.92 Miscalculation from last Statcx'ont................................. . . . ______ 7.00
BALANCE ON HAND APRIL 30, 1973 .......................$ 21,316.92
funds as of April General Fund Reserve Tund Potty Cash Fund
30,
1973
--
.0 1,4 62.06 12,846.91 7 .n3
TOTAL AVAILABLE FUNDS .................................................. 5 21,316.92
.ssets as of April 30, 1073 --
Total Funds as listed above Accounts Receivable (Book Sales) Furniture r, Equipment (nominal value)
9. 21,31''.92 6.00
__________1.
TOTAL ASSETS........................................................................0 21,323.92
OTAL L7-.r.TT.TT'T.r...........................................................................................--
f/yt tfc*?f pL'T^/
V.xjtat. ;j::*i* v,jk'`,n , . 5 21,323.92
7aesppeecc:t fully sumnijcterT,""
>oris M. Fagan
nr>Ri: producers* ri:port
[7resented at ATI General -iocting, Juno 7, 1973, at "ey rridga ?larriott, Arlington, Virginia]
There has been an increasing demand throughout the world in 1773 for a number of fibre grades, notably in 4 Group and 7 Group. Aftar the fall-off in 1972 in 5 and fi Group fibres, this market has begun to recover, although not to the sane extent as the previously-mentioned 4 and 7 Groups.
Of main interest to members of the *..7.1. are t.h.j spinning fibre Group 3 grades. Crudes and ultra-long spinnings continue to bo in short supply, but the medium and short spinnings in the 3F to 31 range are in fair supply fron most producers. *lo shortage is foreseen in these grades during 1973, although individu.il produ cers may be tight in some specific gradings.
Thera are no indications at present that there will he n marked change during 1974 in spinnings; however, in short fibres, the currant oversupply of GI) fibres nay hi: closer to ha.lnr.ca no::t year.
One or two new nines in Canada arc scheduled to come into produc tion in 1975, hut there is no .likelihood that they will produce any spinning fibres. The same is true of new sourers in Australasia.
Walter II. Smith Technical U Calcs ''aprasontativo Hell As hastes "'.inns, Ltd.
M I 1' U AIR HYGIENE r, MANUFACTURING COMMITTEE
Juno 7, 1973
Asbestos Textile Institute Key Bridge. Marriott, Arlington, Virginia
The Committee net with sixteen members and guests in attendance, representative of ten companies, ns follows:
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Aroatex Corporation IT. H. Halter, Morristown, Pennsylvania
/'sberit 3.A. !1. Cattaneo (Adorno) , Rio do Janeiro, Frazil
Cadwalader, Hickershan t* Taft E. J. Leff, How York City
Canadian 7ohns-!Ianvilla Company Ltd. J. P. Po\/er, Asbestos, Quebec
Garlock Inc. !. G. Dixit, Palmyra, Hew YorJ:
Johns-Manville Corporation C. G. Guerin, Manvillo, Mow Jersey W. R. Reitsc, Denver, Colorado
Lake Asbnstos of Quvihcc Ltd. E. A. Farrell, Hew York City R. L. Lofabvro, Black LnJ:o, Quebec
II. I'. Porter Company, Inc. E. C. Eratt, Charlotte, North Carolina L. E. iloody, Charlotte, north Carolina
Raybestor,-Manhattan, Inc. R. T. Matthew, North Charleston, Couth Carolina I. II. Heaver, Hanhein, Pennsylvania
Uniroyal, Inc. T7. D. Eittineer, Hinnshoro, Gouth Carolina E. E. Carrion, bogansviil.:, Georgia L. F. Diwringer, Middlebury, Connecticut
Thu meeting included discussions in th<: following areas: dust (fiber) counts improvements, special checking, etc .; and recent experiences with OCHA inspections.
When taking '.lust counts, one company now is using a method of placing the filter intake valve .near the person's mouth and nos
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am! in some cases will use two units with the second on the employee's shoulder.
Also, it was pointed out, again, that tho height of the person .being chocked has soma bearing on tho dust count, bust cn fiber samples, when chocked by different people, shows a difference or a variation of as much an 5 to 1 and an average of '10% variation, plus or ninus, with nore variation on higher counts.
Spacing of equipment, using a larger area and using a second unit to recirculate the air has shown sonc reduction in dust counts. 'Then stripping cards, use hoods placed as low as possible over tho area and strip with a hrush attached to a vacuum, .'lore plants utilize the Aldington system when stripping cards.
One plant reported the use of a light spray (T-T-X) on mixes using roughly 2%, while another plant sprays carrier only with a mixture of water and ban-sot. Doth plants report sene reduction in dust as a result of using the sprays.
In a recant plant inspection by ODHA, one company received several fines for the following items:
1) Some employees with no respirators;
2) Company had not provided protective clothing in required areas;
3) Citations resulting in tiro 5700. Of) fines for exceeding five (5) iiJ.-ers in one area and a time-weighted average of over ten (.10) fibers in .another area.
In some recent cases the OC-iA Agency has reduced dust counts by 25% before actually issuing a citation. onu nlr;nts are using rental uni forms and lockers both furnished, by th.-.i rental uniform people. Tho uniforms, two per employee each wee' averages about 52.50 weekly.
In most cases the rental uniform is a short-r.lecvod shirt and pants only, and this has been acceptable.
Respectfully submitted.,
Rual r, Carden, Chairman
MINUTES
ASBESTOS ADVISORY COMMITTEE
Asbestos Textile Institute June 7, 1973 -- Eey Bridge Marriott, Arlington, Virginia
IW ATTENDAMCE:
E. V.. P.ussell, Chairman T. P. Jackson A. I'.uznuk :i. J. Scanlan II. Q. Ccov/croft
D. a. Fagan, ATI Executive Secretary
E. J. Leff, ATI Legal Counsel
The Eoard of Governors of the Asbestos Textile Institute took action at its September 1972 meeting to change the Institute's Constitution and By-Laos. The change, permitted weavers of asbestos-containing fabrics and tapes, for resale as such, who do not manufacture the asbestos yarns usc-d in sane, to be eligible for Associate Membership. In light of this action, tho Asbestos Advisory Commit too vas requested to determine a method of extending membership.
After considering several alternatives, the Committee ac cepted tho offer of :i. Q. Scowcroft to prepare a news release for insertion in tho Jul;/ 1973 issue of DESTOS magazine. Tho release will state tho By-Law change mid will publicly extend membership to those qualified and interested. T. P. Jackson of Johns-Mnnvillo Corporation will serve as Membership Chairman.
Hespootfully submitted,
K. r. Uuss;i 11, Chairmnn
MIBn? E s TECHNICAL COMMITTEE
Asbestos Textile Institute Tune G & 7, 1S>73 - - Key bridge Harriott, Arlington, Virginia
IN ATTEHDAUCE: J. I*. Ibv./kir.s, nnybcstos-ilar.hnttan, Inc. n. '.lanckar.t, Anatax Corporation P. O. Ilicodemus, General Electric Company/AETH C. 3. Guerin, Johnr.-Jtnnviilo Corporation J. V. Echerd (Chairman), !!. It. Porter Company, Inc.
Carl G. Guerin, of Johns-.Hanvillo Corporation, van welcomed an a net/ member of the ATI Technical Committer, replacing Irvir: Earnr.tt.
T. special meeting of the Committee was held on June fcth to review
the 7.STM Standards for Tarn, Coving, and Lap. The Committee's
proponed statements on precision and. accuracy were approved, by
the Editorial Committee of A~TV D-I3 nr, being editorial. Howe ver,
the statements vrere rejected by the ACT.* Standards Editor who rwJp!>os
cific-d they must be put to latter ballot after assigning a sch rduli
for intor-laboratory testing. The samples of yarn, roving and lap
will he analysed by Eaybostos-Manhnttnn, Inc., Ar.atox Corporat ior.,
General Electric Company, Gariock Ir.c. and
Porter Cor.nar. y,
Inc. Testing should be completed prior to the Spring 1974 moo ting,
The Johns-llanville tumbler-test procedure was discussed as a means to determine the relative dustiness of various asbestos products. J. ?. Hawkins will determine if this equipment is available for ATI evaluation. The feasibility of building a similar taster also will be considered.
ASVII Subcommittee .013.14 has been requested, by the iJ.S. :iavy to change D-315 Asbestos Tapes to conform with Coder a.I specification TI-T-17P3 so it nay bo used for direct procurement purnor.es. Havision would require the addition, of a quality assurance provision, a section or. packaging ana an obsolete table on tape stylos. The ATI Technical Committee feels that thin information should not bo included in a "Material fipocifiention." P. 0. Vieodor.us will re view the objectionable itonn with ACT.*! before replying to the Ilavy.
Tasnoctfully submitted, j. ", roherd, Chairman
M I il U T E S fiber research c, testing com utter
Asbestos "jjy.tilrt Institute Juno. 7, 1D73 -- Eey Bridge Harriott, .Arlington, Virginia
III ATTENDANCE: *'J. C. Streib, John3-Manville Corporation >J. H. Dnith, Doll Asbestos Mines Ltd. D. E. Childers, !!. I*. Porter Company. Ir.c. C. E. Etiefhen (Chairman), .Arxcric*:!. v..i'.ltig fi .'logining Co.
The r.'aoting x/as totally devoted to discussions of. tho progress of the 3rd Edition of tho Chrysotilo Asbestos Tost Manual.
It v/as noted that tho ACTA (Asbestos Cement Products Association) has become defunct and all references to that organization have born renoved fron tho nox* manual.
It x:as decided that for future: test deletions, a substitute page would bo inserted into the manual, containing tho previous test nui.xber x*ith an explanation of the runson for deletion. It would bo indicated that the test could ho obtained, from ATI, if required.
Since AC?A is defunct, the AT: sponsor an original ACTA test Products, r-3.
has, for the record, agreed to - strength ir Asbestos Conuxxt
Tost G-D, Tf!T Magnetic Eating, hns been approved for sponsorship by tho ATI.
Tho Tost 'Annual has boon assembled in rough form, requiring sons editorial changes. This draft will nox? bo reviewed by the ATI Fiber Research & Tenting Committee. '-lion approved, the draft will be submitted to the printer for a reasonably-accurate cost estimate. All original typing, sketches and photographs will then bo assembled for printing, hopefully by the end of thin summer.
It x/ili be helpful for tho membership to submit copy rermiroHints to Doris Fagan as soon ns possible.
brj'ipn.c tf ul ly subrxi t ted ,
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Chairmen
RPMAKKr: OF COUUpF.L
.fshostos Textile Institute General Mooting June 7, 1D73, Arlington/ Virginia
*t the February General ('acting in Atlanta, rondnll Alcorn prosentrtd to you remarks of counsel dealing with illegal divisions of territory anlong computing collars. The cases lie referred to than dealt with explicit agreements in which tho nap war carved no among the selling companies involved on the principle of "cnc region bna company". Thu decided cases have held such Agreements to be unlawful, with a fov limited exceptions.
A recent case has focused attention on the division of: markets where the agreement cr plan is not clearly spelled out. In Ho).art brothers Company v. .Malcolm T. Gilliar.d, Inc., *171 r.2d 004 (5th Cir. 1573) , cert. cienie?n `il U.f..L.!>'. 2t?.2 (.".ay 25, 1573) , a distributor of welding equipment was assigned by the manufacturer "primary responsibility" for distribution in northern Georgia. r.'hc natural commercial instincts of tho fin'., however, led it to begin selling in Tennessee, which was not only outside th* northern Georgia territory, but was within an area supplied directly by the manufac
turer. Fventnally, the distributorship ngroer.ar.t van cancelled by tho manufacturer, and the distributor sued the manufacturer, charging an illegal division of territories.
The defense emphasised the absence of a written contract prohibit ing the distributor from soiling in any particular area. There had bean such an agreamont years earlier, but counsel had remedied that problem by drafting new contracts assigning "areas of primary responsibility", which did not on their face limit sales elsewhere.
The courts nevertheless hold the arrangement to bo illegal. The Fifth Circuit Court cf Appeals stated that "A silent understanding can lo shewn by the course of conduct of the parties." The chief damaging evidence was an intra-office nemo from the Tennessee dis trict representative of the manufacturer to the hona office which reported the distributor1s sales ir. Tennessee and urged the mnnufacturor to "counter" by selling directly in tho distributor's
territory, northern Georgia.
One of tho important teachings of this ons: is that compliance the antitrust lav;a - whether the issue is prices, distribution schemes, refusals tc den- with certain companies, or ary other sensitive trade regulation natter - is not achieved by nere.lv avoiding ths o\ vious, spelled out forms of transgression. Gar-' m.uv/t ].-a taken not to lessen competition indirectly or through unexpressed understandings as vv.ll.
4-1-
Having mentioned violations of the law throuqh nrrw devious moans,
which rw.^r-.s to me appropriate at this gatherinc, so close to the wAtergatc building, I would .like, to note another connection twton antitrust law and polities.
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morbidity de.tr., no nev reported adverse comments and initia tion of new studies not available for a mirror of years, the subcommittee on asbestos stated, "It is therefore rncorrondud that no changes he made at the present tine, but that the standard be Icopt under rovAorr. "
3) Pages S-17, Eiologioal effects of Cancer - Peport of tho /.dvisory Committee on Asbestos Cancers to the Director of the International /agency for Research on Cancer - D.eport divided into t*o parts, the first a nuestion-and-nnsver section devoted to the latest thinking on the relation of asbestos exposure and cancer, and the second to recommendations for future research ir. epideP.io.logy, pathology and physics and chemistry of asbestos-relatad cancer.
respectfully submitted,
I.. pinrincar, Chairran
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EMVIJKKTMJINTiAL HEALTH COMMITTEE
Asbestos Textile Institute Junes 7, 1973 -- Hey Eridga Marriott, Arlington, Virginia
Mo formal meeting of the Committee '.'nr. holtl, and. the throe northern snt in on the discussions of the Air Hygiene u Manufacturing Committee.
As of mooting tine, the following is the status of various pro posed OSTIA occupational health standards which are of interest to member conpani.es:
1) Hoisa -- A Department of Labor standards Advisory Conr.ittc-e is meeting periodically to consider this standard. At its mooting in Uoston on 'lay 21, 1973, the Ancricnn Confer ence of Governmental Hygienists (ACCIJ*) raconnenuad the adoption of a notice of intent to change the Hoiso Threshold Limit Values to C5 dE.A for an E-kour-a-day, tine-weighted exposure. .At the 0*1112. Standards Advisory Comitten ncetino in Washington, D.C., on May 32, 1073, Dr. V. I!. -li.ldyr.rd, Cornittan Chairman, stated that the level of exposur-.: to noise for employees will probably remain at 00 dr?..
2) Heat Stress - A.CGIH also recommended at its Dos ton rooting the adoption of the Meat .'Stress Threshold Lir.it Values which were published as a notice of intent in 1972. It differs slightly from those recommended by mice:: in its criteria package in that permissible work-rest regirons are specified. The status of the pronosod standards is clouded by recent criticism that the TT'GC index: is not an adequate indicator of heat stress. Proposals have bean nad^ that svont rates and. ho.art rates art: more indicative of host stress.
Accent articles of interest from the Annuals of Occupational Hy giene, Volume Id, 1973, house organ for th-.j Hritish Occupational Hygiene'Society, are:
1) Pages 1-5, Hygiene standards for Airborne Arcsito bsb-r.tos Lust - "Tho subcommittee {on ashostos) has reviewed the . information on human exposure to airborne .Arno si to dust and animal experiments. Che subcomr.itt. : ;.elicits it: liar, insuf ficient knowledge of th.- rr lations'iip ) at*von airborne /r.ositc- dim t exposure an:l the rial: of ashes ton is to permit an.accurate statement of the degree of protection afforded by -a specified hygiene standard. nevertheless, on the basis of comparisons between tnn effects of Amosita and 7hrysot.il: oust on west and animal:;, it i. rocoraiendod that the standards or. Ar.ositn should, b:: no less strinov'nt than those for Chr'ciotila.''
2) rag,.'. 7, hvvi.iu of the ''ygiou.e standard for Chrysotil.: Asbestos Dust - ttr.ffl on ,i nforrv tj on o f Ouvber ruu ta1 i ty an.l
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Trade associations ft3 well as other commercial omuos cn run afoul of the lav; by assuming power in their private activities which propo.rly belongs to the government.
Tho early price-fining cater. reflect the view that private parties should net be permitted to rsnnlato sc sensitive a feature of the cconony as prices. Similarly, any joint action which excludes certain companion fror'. important commercial benefits in viewed hy thcs courts as the imposition of a punishment - which is a power reserved to the courts.
In FashionO_r_i_g__i_n__a__t_o__r_s__' __G___u__il_d__.___I_n__c_,___v__.__r__e_d__a__r_a__l___"_ra__d__e___'_T__o_n__n__i_s_s__io__n, 312 U.S. 457 (1041)/ for example, a combination of manufacturers cf women's garments and manufacturers of textiles tried to prevent the copying of thoir fashionable clothes bv so-called ''stylo pirates''. The fashionable clothes group refused to sell thcj.r products to manufacturers or retailers of garments who dealt with the competing "style pirates", Che Supreme Court rejected the defense that such, a practice was justified by the necessity of ridding the business of unscrupulous garment designers. Che Court said:
", . . the confcination is in roality an extra-governmental agency, which prescribes rules for the regulation and re straint of interstate commerce, and provides extra judicial tribunals for determination and punishment of violations, and thus 'trenches upon the pnv/or of the national legislature and violates the statute' ti.e., the Sherman Act]." 312 r.F. at 4C5.
So long as private companies retain their competitive Lndivisualitv, however, and restrict their joint effort.:; to constructive objectives which reasonably serve that individuality there is little dancer of antitrust difficulties.
Eugene .7, '.off, Attorney
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ABOUT THE SPEAKER
The names Matthew M, Swetonic and Asbestos Infor mation Association/North America are synonymous. It was Matt who developed the original AIA/NA Prospectus in the Fall of 1970 and who prepared the presentations for both the introductory and the organization meetings.
Upon J-M's decision to move its corporate head
quarters to Denver and Matt's electing not to
make the move, he was employed as AIA/NA's first
full-time Executive Secretary. For the first
three months of 1972 he handled two jobs: Manager
of Environmental Affairs for J-M and Executive
Secretary for AIA/NA.
During this time he orga
nized the industry effort for the EPA and OSHA
hearings and wrote for others or presented
himself six major presentations in a period of 45
days, a record which he states he hopes he "will
be never asked to break."
Matt is 30 years of age and is married.
He is a
native New Yorker, was reared in Easton, Penna.,
and now resides in Manhattan. He holds a B.A. in
Creative Writing and an M.S. in Journalism.
Following a tenure as Feature Writer for The Eas
ton Express, he joined J-M in July 1965 as
Associate Editor of News/Pic, an employee maga
zine.
He was promoted to Editor in January 1967
and one year later was named Coordinator, Special
Projects.
This is the job that granted him the
expertise to superbly fulfil his duties as Execu
tive Secretary of the AIA/NA as the major respon
sibilities included writing J-M asbestos-health position papers, preparing speeches on asbestos-
health for top J-M executives, working with J-M
public relations counsel and learning <xsbestos-
health literature backwards and forwards.
;;hy asbestos ?
A Presentation Before the Asbestos Textile Institute Arlington, Virginia - June 7, 1973
By; Matthew M. Sv/etonic, Executive Secretary
Tfcsbestos Infcmation Association/ilorth America
T an sure that many of you have asked yourselves, as I have asked nyself, why has the asbestos industry seemingly been singled cut as the prime target for so many assaults by government, labor, the press, certain segments of the medical profession, and by various environmental and consumer activist groups?
VThy us? Can asbestos really be all that bad? Are the products we produce truly going to kill millions of Americans, as some experts have predicted? Or is there some sort of nefarious conspiracy afoot to destroy the asbestos industry?
The answer to the question of "Why us" is both complex and simple. Complex because it is a combination of three interrelated but separate factors. Simple because each of the factors is, when considered by itself, quite obvious.
The three factors are (1) asbestos can cause disease, (2) a spokes man arose to champion the need for .asbestos control, and (3) a cornucopia of nev; government agencies were set up to control materials and products that can cause disease. Let us lock at each of these factors in turn.
First, there is no doubt that the inhalation of substantial amounts of asbestos can lead to increased rates of various types of lung disease, including two forms of cancer. These are facts which can not be denied, even if they do not apply in all circumstances and under all conditions. The medical literature is full of solid evi dence linking asbestos to disease. In ny office, I have on file more than 2,000 medical papers dealing with the health risks of asbestos and hundreds more are published every year.
Secondly, the spreading of concern over the health risks of asbes tos has as its prime spokesman one of the most talented medical publicists of the age -- Dr. Irving J. Sciikoff of Mow York's Mou t Sinai Hospital. Hot cnlv is Dr. f.elikoff capable of arousing the ire and moral indignation of the most conservative reporter or politician vith his graphic descriptions and predictions of the ravages of asbestos, hut he has also surrounded himself with a group of similarly talented associates who have carried the Mount Sinai message to the far corners of the nation.
While Dr. Solikoff has, in his zeal, unquestionably painted a far darker picture than the facts warrant, wo should always remember in iiis defense, that the inr.u 1 anion viorknrs he har. >->ren snulyi nn fa-
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more than a decode were and still are dying fron asbestos related disease at an appalling rate. Such a situation would be sufficient to make a crusader out of the nost conservative of scientists.
Finally, in the past decade there has been a trenendous growth in public and governmental interest in environmental and occi:pntional health matters. This interest has been translated into a scries of far-reaching laws affecting industry in a manner hitherto unknown in this or any other country. I believe it is accurate tc say that these new laws, such as the Occupational Safety and Health Act, the Clean Air Act, the Consumer Product Safety Act, and others, have forever altered the concent of the free enterprise system as it was known in this country for a hundred and fifty years.
Thus, in combination, those throe factors created a situation in v/hich a cadre of freshly created federal agencies, with strong statutory authority, were prodded into assigning priority status tc asbestos by Dr. Selikoff and his followers, who achieved these cr.cs through skillful use of the* great wealth of negative asbestos-health data contained in the medical literature.
In short, the asbestos industry v?as singled out because it was vulnerable to attack, because there was someone willing to lend thrt attach, and because Congress had graciously provided the vehicles for such an assault.
The background of industry efforts to deal with the asbestos-health problem as a national issue goes back nearly a decade, to Dr, Selikoff's now famous 1964 seminar on asbestos disease at the New York .Academy of Sciences. Uhilc this seminar did nuch to prick th= industry's conscience about asbestos and health, the problem still remained one of limited public and press interest until around 1967, when the modin began beating the medical bushes searching fer stories that v;ould graphically portray American industry's supposed disregard for the environment and for'the health and safety of its workmen and the ./enerienn public. The asbestos-health problem was found to be tailor-made for such stories. As a result, starting with Paul Drodeur's infamous Hoy? Yorker article of Harch 1965, asbestos has since grown into an item of major press interest.
In those years, industry efforts to combat the spate of negative press articles on asbestos were carried on primarily by.the Johns- Ilanvilie Corporation, which set up a task force of specialists in various fields to do what it could to portray the problem in its proper perspective. While some minor successes were achieved, it was found that no or.e company acting independently could adequately or effectively represent an entire industry in dealing with the press and with government officials.
As a result, in late 1970, eight companies gathered in New York City to launch the Asbestos Information Association of North .America,
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which was patterned after the British Asbestos Information Commit tee, which had been established son.e three years earlier.
In our original concept, the /vssociation would lir.it its activitie to providing accurate, unbiased information on asbestos and health to the press, to the public and to interested politicians and othc government officials. It must be remembered that at this particu lar time, the enormous problems that would later develop v.'ith .regard to OSHA and other Federal regulatory agencies were as yet c the distant horizon and basically unrecognized by the industry.
Fortunately -- and properly -- the Association has had the wisdom to alter its original limited concept of its proper functions, and nov; endeavors to assume whatever activities and responsibilities i deems necessary to protect the interests of the asbestos manufac turing industry in the United States vis-a-vis asbestos-health.
From this rather narrow initial public relations concept, the Association has grown in the last two years into an organization with priorities in eight major fields of endeavor. These are: Medical Affairs, Legai Affairs, Environmental Control, Customer
Relations, Employee Relations, Inter-ir.custry Relations, Publicity and Public Relations, and Government Affairs.
To take these activities one at a time, let us start with medical affairs.
It is an obvious fact that if an organization is to speak authori
tatively on a medical matter, it must not only be steeped in the
literature of that particular medical subject, but it must also
keep itself constantly informed of new discoveries and development
This we have accomplished in a number of ways. For example, by
sending representatives to important medical meetings, such as the
1972 Lyon, Franco, international conference on the biological
effects of asbestos, which was sponsored by the T'crid Health Or gar
zaticn.
V7o also meet on an irregular basis with various medical exports ir the field, both fron the United States and abroad, to review and discuss recent developments and discoveries.
Our literature research is cased considerably by receiving the monthly medical paper distribution of the Institute of Occupation and Environmental Health in Montreal, which is funded by the Cuob Asbestos .Mining Association.
This year, for the first time, the AIA has elected to sponsor medical research of its own. Currently underv/ay is a completely AIA/1IA funded study of chest sounds, which is being conducted by
Dr. Raymond Murphy of the Harvard School of Public Health. The purpose of the study is to find a now motliod of determining an individual's potential susceptibility to asbestos disease.
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The Association has also recently decided to contribute to sonc v;
exciting research into a possible cure for mesothelioma through
electromotive treatment.
This study is being conducted at Somers
Hospital in JJew Jersey.
In the legal affairs area, the Association participated in an amicus curiae capacity in the lav; suit brought by the Industrial Union Department of the AFL/CIO against the Occupational Safety ar. Health Administration on the asbestos standards. In our brief to; Association supported OS1IA against the IUD, somewhat of a unicue position for an industry to find itself in vis-a-vis a governments regulatory agency. Oral argument or. the case was held April 4 ir. Washington. While a decision has yet to be handed down by the Ccu. of Appeals, v/e are confident that the case will be decided in our favor.
The Association has retained the services of a special technical consultant on environmental control affairs. At the present time, he is working with the AIA/HA Environmental Control Sub-Committee on the development of a series of five Association compliance manuals on the OSHA standards.
Last year, because of the v/ell established unreliability of the membrane filter method as a monitoring tool in the asbestos industry, the AIA undertook the sponsorship of a study at a research laboratory in California to determine: the effect of ccrt: variables on the overall accuracy of the method. The results of the study shov/ed an error factor cf plus or minus 50 per cent undo the most favorable of measuring conditions. These results were s*; to both OSHA and to the national Institute for Occupational Safety and Health. A number of the recommendations contained in the stes for improving the accuracy of the method have been incorporated ir a scon- to-bc-reieased revised HICSI1 operations manual on fiber
counting.
In the customer relations .area, the total effect of negative pres;
publicity and government regulations on industry customers is sti:
today rather poorly defined.
Seme members of the Association ho*
reported serious problems in this area, while others have
experienced few or no difficulties thus far.
Whore customer problems do exist, they normally fall into one cf five categories.
First, the customer has thoroughly investigatsd his situation and lias found that ho can no longer afford to continue using asbestos or asbestos-containing products, cither because the cost of control is too high or because ho would have to raise the price c his product to a level that would make it non-conpctitivc with non-asbestos containing substitutes.
Second, the customer has not thoroughly investigatoe his sitnatic and only thinks that he can no longer afford to continue using asbestos.
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Third, the customer has read one or more negative articles on asbestos in the public press and has made the snap decision that "we ought to get that dangerous stuff out of our plant." Often, decisions of this nature are forced on top ranagrr.cnt by illinformed nodical advisors or safety and health directors.
Fourth, the customer has neither a control problem nor is he parti cularly afraid of using asbestos in his own plant. However, he is fearful that those of his competitors whose finished products do act contain asbestos will stress the adverse health effects of asbestos in trying to take business away from hin. Customer fears cf this nature are essentially "gut" reactions and are hcr.ce extremely
difficult to deal with.
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Fifth, the customer has none of .these problems cr fears but he ha been advised by a government official or inspector that ho would better off if he quit using asbestos or asbestos-containing produ in his plant. While this problem does not appear to he widesprea wo have learned of a number of situations where it has occurred. Actions of this nature by government officials are totally uncall for and should be dealt with promptly and decisively. The best solution is to obtain complete details on the incident and then t register a formal complaint with the offending official's imm.edia superior cr with the government agency involved.
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The /Association's first reaction to the overall customer relation problem was to approve funds for a scries of. four regional senina at uhich industry customers would be given a number of basic presen tations on the various aspects of the asbestos-health problem. The seminars were tentatively scheduled for the Spring of 1973.
However, the experiences of a number cf our member companies shewed that general "catchall" typo seminars of tha typa originally contemplated would not bo effective in dealing with the majority cf customer relations problems. In erder to do the joe properly, it was found that customer presentations have to be tailored to the needs and problems of the individual customer.
.As a result, the 7*ssociatinn cancelled its scheduled series of
seminars and instead elected to develop n number of packaged slier
presentations
such topics as "The Facts About .Asbestos end
Health," and "Understanding the OSHA Reyulrtions," which could be
used by member companies as part of r. tailored presentation to
individual customers.
7.s vjith customer relations, the /association feels that employee relations is a pr j'oler. best handled by the individual monber companies. Thus far, the /.IA's sole contribution in this area ol: industry concern has been tc prepare thj draft of an Employee fafety and Health Guide cm. Asbestos-Health. The draft was made available to the member comoanies for their own use- and at least one has produced it in booklet forn for distribution to all its employees.
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I personally believe that the employee relations aspect of the asbestos-health problem is one that has been sorely neglected by most companies within the industry, and that it could develop into a major problem area in the near future ar.d that steps should be taken now to deal with it. l.'e knew that various organized labor groups are planning a full scale campaign to brine their interpre tation cf the asbestos-health problem to the attention of asbestos industry employees throughout the nation. If the industry permits this interpretation tc bo disseminated without rebuttal, the -consequences could be grave indeed.
Inter-industry relations arc best defined as keeping the industry informed about important nei: developments on the governmental, medical and press relations fronts that affect asbestos. This is accomplished within the AIA by periodic distributions of documents and information to the member companies and to others on our mailing list.
The value of this activity can be gauged by the fact that our overall mailing list increased from approximately a drten names in 1971 to more than 60 a year later. TIhile we hove had to trim the list senevhat this year for logistical reasons, we assume from the frequent requests we still receive to bo placed or. the list that the material we send out is being read and is of considerable value to those receiving it.
Next to government affairs, our public relations and publicity activities constitute tho single largest consumer of time, effort and money vrithin the Association. Those cf you who are familiar with the treatment that asbestos has been receiving in the public press over the years can readily understand why this activity ranks so high on our priority list.
t"nat you may not understand are the reasons why c.ur extensive efforts in dealing i/ith the nation's press have been so unsuccess ful to date in producing the theoretical "balanced" nr "positive" story on asbestos and health.
Tho simple fact is that from the standpoint cf today's young activist reporter, industry is the bad guy, and nothing wo do, say or achieve can over change this impression. If v.'o spend "IOC nil ion dollars on environmental control, the press either rays wa oughw to have done it ten years ago or that we should have spent C200 million. If we sponsor medical research, they say wo are trying to buy favorable results. If we arc opposed to ridiculously stringent standards, they say we arci in fav'-r of letting our employees die.
A television executive in Minneapolis described this now brt ::d of reporter ns being "so intent on donclisning the cs tablishrior. t that they would blindly destroy the credibility cc the media in the bar gain." Another TV executive, this time in Chicago, stated "they
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want to make moral and political and social judgments on their assignments and then take sides. Iicver mind getting the facts straight."
As a result of th'is "industry is a monster" philosophy, asbestos will remain a hot news item only so long as the news is bad. The "good" that asbestos does in protecting lives and property is of no concern to the press. Likewise, industry efforts to protect .workmen and the general public from asbestos exposure will always be given minimal coverage, since such information is directly contrary to the portrait of an irresponsible industry producing a "killer" product that is the sole element of news worthiness in the asbestos story.
The press relations battle will therefore he won, not when the media starts to print positive or balanced articles about asbestos, but when the press ceases to print anything about asbestos at all. As long as negative news on asbestos-health continues to be generated, the media will continue to eat it up. The media will only cease to carry such stories when the generation of negative news ceases. It is as simple as that. Positive or balanced stories are a chimera, since they are, by definition, not newsworthy.
Let me give you a very specific example of this last principle in action. As most of you already knew, the Association is currently engaged in an extensive campaign to interest the trade press in articles on the benefits of asbestos and on industry accomplish ments in the environmental control area. The trade press, unlike the national or public media, is much more receptive to articles of this nature and we expect to be seeing a number of positive stories in the trade press in the next few months.
In any case, we also fren tine to time put out press releases on various subjects relating to asbestos-health. A few weeks ago, issued a release on the report of the advisory committee on asbestos cancers of the World Health Organisation. In brief, the report concluded that the general public is not in danger from asbestos in the environment. Thus far, we have received nearly two dozen press clippings from trade publications that carried the story. To the best of our knowledge, not a single newspaper, news magazine, r: iio or TV station, or any other segment of the public media ran the story, with the solitary exception of a French language paper in Toronto, /is I said before, if the news is good, the press simply isn't, interested.
Nonetheless, the Association has no intention of abandoning our efforts vis-a-vis the national media. Wc will continue to issue appropriate press releases, cooperato with feature writers doing stories on asbestos, v/rite letters to the editor v;hcn those stories appear, and in short, do all wo can to present the press with a balanced view of the asbestos-health situation.
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Our most recent effort in this regard has been the preparation ar.f printing of an Asbestos and Health Information Tile, which we have nailed to some 3,000 newspapers, magazines, trade publications, radio and TV stations, science writers, etc,, across the United States.
Basically, the file contains copies of five industry position papers on asbestos and asbestos-health, as well as a number of 'important medical papers and a pair of photographs illustrating the benefits of asbestos and industry efforts at environmental control. IThilc wo don*t expect our information file to change the whole attitude of the press toward asbestos, wc are hrping that the media will make use of it to accurately report the industry's position vjhen doing stories on the subject.
And now, having heard the bad side of the public relations problem, it's time for some good naws.
And the good news is that despite all the negative articles on asbestos-health that have appeared in the press over the pest halfdozen years, vary few people have been paying attention. Let nc explain.
In February, the Association undertook a personal interview research survey of the American public to determine its nttitud.e tc.v;ar;l asbestos end its awareness of the health issue. The survey was conducted by the Opinion Research Corporation during Harch r.r.i April, tiorc than 2,000 demographically selected .Americans were interviewed.
Without going into enormous detail, the results shew that only 21 per cent of the American public are aware of the health, hazards of asbestos, and that 80 per cent of these consider it a hazard only to those who are occupationally exposed. A more three per ccr.t of those interviewed stated that they considered asbestos a health hazard to the general public, and loss than one quarter of one per cent considered it the most dangerous material on the list they were given to choose from. Surprisingly, the college age youths of America arc no more aware of the hazards of asbestos than their parents and grandparents.
Those results should >e reassuring to those industry customers who fear that the general public will stop buying their products because they contain asbestos.
Before going on to describe our activities in the government relations area, I think it night be interesting at this point to take a very brief look at the manner in which Dr. Sclikoff and his supporters have used his research results to dramatize and exaggerate the cri'mr.n^ss of the asbestos-health problem, I have two charts which point this out rnrher conclusively.
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The first chart -shown the actual results of Dr. Geliknff's four mortality studies' cf asbestos workers. The numbers in parentheses beside the figures for total number of workers indicate those who have so far died from nil causes. The percentage figures aiengsid the total number of deaths from nsbestosis, lung cancer and nesctheliona arc based on the total number of deaths from all causes, not on the number of workers in the study.
The most important study of the 'group is the second from the top, shoving the deaths from asbestos-related disease among all members of the insulation workers union, regardless of length of exposure. Vovi will note that 34 per cent of those workers who have died thus far have died from one of tho three asbestos-related diseases.
These, then, rare the facts Dr. Gelikoff works from. This is what lie knows from his own investigations. Mew let us take a leek at what he has done with thoso figures in order to dramatize the problem..
Chart number II shows Dr. Golikoff's predictions about ashestesrulated deaths in the United States, t'ithout going into details, Dr. Gelikoff Jiao arrived at his projections by the simple proccdur of multiplying the percentage of deaths from axbcstos-r&Iarnd disease among his insulation workers by the total number cf employees in the entire industry.
Vou will also note that ho has raised his projected death es ;ntz to enormous heights over tho past year by simply increasing th banc figure of employees exposed, "kilo st ill retaining the percentage multiplier of 24 pax cent being experienced by til s insulation workers.
I night point out that this tactic, however deceptive, has been tr enormous success since ench raising of the estimate has earned Dr. G c1ike ff corresponding ly greater coverage >*y the media, ho finer example exists of the tc-tal gullibility of :n prose than the manner in which it all owed its projuarces tto bn ran inula ted an; played upon in this si tuntion.
Please don't get r.o wrong, I have- no doubt that the insulation workers are ir. fact dying as rapidly as Dr. ^'likoff says they nr The problem is that ha has tr; 'slated thoir mortality experience to the rest of the entire industry, which is ccmnletely erroneous
In the first place, the estimated number of employees in tho industry is too high -- five times too high to b;-* precise. Even mere important, according to an analysis Jv* the Association of more than a dozen mortality studies, including those of Dr. Gclik.off, cv.r prediction is that approximately 2.5, ODD past and preser. onployces in the* asbestos industry have died or "ill eventually die of asbestos-- related disease. '..'his ir l-'sn then '>r\o- ti'-l vcoe-ot-
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of Dr. C<*li3*.cff's rest recent estimate. In addition, oi:r figures show that 20 r.f the 25,000 deaths -- or CQ -- will occur among those in the insulation trades.
labile these estimates should vc reassuring te those in the nir.ing and nnmjfacturing areas of the industry, wo should not forget that 5,009 t'f our workmen arc still going tr d.ie of asbestos-related disease and that, all things considered, there is absolutely nothing that v;o can do ta prevent it. The only thing "e can dr> is to clean up our plants to assure that those entering the industry in the future will not have the same experience.
Within the past year and a half, the nnin thrust of ^Association effort has shifted to the government affairs front. The principal agencies in Washington witch which we have .been dealing are the Occupational Safety and. Wealth Administration; th--- Environmental Protection Agency; the Food and Drug Administration; the Bureau r.f Minus; and, to a lesser degree, the national Institute of Occupational Safety and Wealth, and. the national Institutes of Health, both of which arc nninly involved in research efforts.
In addition, a fov weeks ago ve "ere contacted by the Federal Trade Commission, which had received a petition from the Center for Science in the Public Interest requesting an investigation of consumer uses of asbestos dor the purpose of determining whether certain products ought to la labeled as hazardous and whether warnings should ho required, on all advertisements for those' pro ducts. On the basis of n preliminary meeting with an investigator from the FTC it would, appear that we have, little te worry about ir. this particular area.
The Occupational Safety and Health Administration has ''cer. of enormous concern to the. industry over the past II months. As nest of you already '-.new, the Association expended tremendous efforts during the six month period, leading to the promulgation of last Juno's 0511?. standards on nr.b*stos. I think it is a gauge of the effectiveness of the total industry involvement in this most crucial natter that of eleven main renniroments in the .standards, the industry position was accepted, totally hy OSPA on nine of the eleven, about fifty per cent on a tenth, and totally rejected on only one.
OSIIA is now planning to rndo the standard packacio and we are '.'-irk ing closely with them, on this project. Tho first stop "ill he the formation of a 15 nan advisory co^tnittwc to review the current standards and any additional nodical and technical data that has become available in the year since the standards l"--rc promulgated.
Working in cooperation with nino other trndo associations wo 'nave selected four individuals as ind.us try-wide ruconr-.nndation:; to OCTA for the four so-called. "employer" spots on the advisory cornj.ttec.
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Presented to the ATI at Arlington, Virginia - 6/7/73'
In discussing the fomation of the advisory committee with John 0'ITeill cf the OSnA Standards Development Section, we 'cm asked to add a couple of names tc the list so that OCHA .rule' have more
of a selection to choose from. Thin wo havn agreed to do.
The committee will ba given up to nine months to ccmplctt its deliberations and prepare for OCHA a revised standard package. This will be followed hy public hearings, approximately n year from nov*. lie do not o::poct tr see a new standard promulgated, 'before the Fall of 1974.
It is of course impossible to determine ct this tire what the new standards will look like, however, I vc-uld venture to cay that they will certainly net he lass strict than the ones we have teday, although they './ill probably ho less confusing and leave less rocn for ertployer interpretation. fionething '/ill unques tionably be done tr improve the current difficulties with the monitoring requirements.
The main function cf the national Institute for Occupational Safe and Health is to conduct research and. to prepare so-called. Criter
Packages, which are essentially recommendations to 'OS HA fer stan dards on various materials, chemicals and activities. Such a package on asbestos was prepared by *TIC?:r at the tine of the OCHA proceedings last year. nicer will not be preparing a new or rovi criteria package for the upcoming review of the asbestos standard
I do net boliovo it would, hr* unfair tc say that of all the agen
cies in 'Washington dealing with asbestos, Dr. Celiknff has had. hi greatest influence on the young idealistic scientists and d.octors at illCSIJ. Consequently, industry influence is weakest in this agency. It was 1JI0CII, after all, that made the erigir.nl rocorim.or. Cation for a two fiber standard in the United States asbestos industry.
Ucxt to OP!!A, the nnvironnental Protection Agency has the creates potential cf any federal agency for adversely affecting the fotur of the asbestos industry in this country. Hot only is the CPA responsible for developing and enforcing air and water pollution standards, but the T'-xic Substances Control Act, new ponding in Congress, will also bacons an !TA function after passage.
Fcr this reason, I am pleased to he able tr cay that tba asbestos
industry lias an excellent relationship with the r.PA. 'dm finer
proof of this exists than the fact that there was not a single at the public hoar
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'e are presently '..'orbing with the HFA cn the development of viator effluent standards for asbastws manufac:;tnurriingy pil.aannttss.. i w-*
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certainly hope that these standards will turn out to bo as reason able as the air pollution regulations. The proposed effluent standards are scheduled to be published in the Tsdaral Aegister sometime this Sumer, to 1>g followed by public hearings/ with tha final standards being promulgated in the Fall, perhaps as early as October.
''e are also planning/ in the near future, to r.eet in Washington with representatives fron tlio standards development and cnforcerren
branches, of the ITA to discuss with then questions of interprotati and compliance policy with regard to the new air pollution regulations.
TTe have already resolved cno interpretation question that is of special interest to the asbestos textile industry* Approximately two weeks ago I vas asked, by a member company of the Association to find out whether the TPA was planning to require the manufac turers of asbestos safety clothing to register as potential emission sources under the law.
In discussing the situation over the phone with. F?A compliance officials, I argued that the producers of asbestos safety clothing were not manufacturers as defined in the regulations but were inst only fabricators or an asbestos product, ar.d. as such, should not have to register as potential emission sources.
After our phone conversation ended:, a brief necting was held among the r,PA compliance people. I v;ns then called, hack ar.d. informed that they agreed, with me that the safety clothing producers should not be required: to register.
rhilo this rather minor problem tool: half and two or three phone calls to the type of day-to-day services that its r-eriher connanies.*
approximately an hour .and resolve, it in indicative the Association provides
of rr
Over the past year the Food and. Urug f dninis tratirn has sho*-n an increased interest in asbestos an a nosr.iM c bazar :c-us contasun in various foods, beverages and. drugs. Late in If)7 1 they net up asbestos task force to review the situation, and. to >ropose regul tionn and guidelines where appropriate.
Thus far they have concentrated their efforts .in two areas -- on the use of asbestos-contaminated, talc in food packaging and in cosmetics, and secondly, on the use of asbestos oelulosn filtc pads in the beverage and drug industries.
In our first meeting with the PDA tack force last 'J.-verher on thr
filter problem, they demonstrated: ant", admitted, to an appalling
ignorance about the health hazards of asbestos. Tinea then, they
havo gotten one hock of
lot r.nartar, due at least in part tc rh.
tmr.mndous nnfMint of data .-nd in format-, inn vhicu the *.si nr j on
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has been supplying to then. As a consequence, the FDA is today less panicky about asbestes and therefore loss likely to propose foolish, unsupportable regulations, Cpokosmen fren the FD7. have, in fact, defended- the filter industry against environmentalist attacks in the press and elsewhere in recent months. This is, quite obviously, a healthy sign.
Our activities in the area of Congressional relations have been quite minimal to date, although v/c arc preparing for the upcoming struggle in Congress over workmen's compensation reform, at 'which time asbestos is unquestionably going to bo racked over the coals by Dr. Celikoff and by representatives of organized labor.
Unfortunately, the Association has neither the manpower nor the time to embark on a full-scale legislative information program. We have met on occasion with the legislative and legal assistants to various Senators v/ho have attacked asbestos, however much more needs to be done in this area and I am afraid individual member companies are going to have to be the prime ball carriers and r.ot the Association.
For essentially the same reason, our government activities at the state and local level have declined to essentially zero over the pest year and a half. This has not been too scricus a deficiency as most of the authority of the cities ar.d states in asbestos con trol has been usurped by various Federal regulatory agencies, nonetheless, more individual company activity is required at those levels of government.
In conclusion, I think we can all be justifiably pleased with what we have been able to accomplish in the past few years in resolving the cornucopia of interrelated problems that constitute the asbestos-health situation.
Our plants are cleaner and our workmen better protected. The gone ral public has been shown to be in no danger from asbestos, if it ever was. While we have been regulated extensively, for the most part the standards that have been developed have net been as bacl a we feared they might be, and in some cases they turned out far hat ter than we ever dared hone. In addition, while wc are still tak-` cur lumps in the public press, the not effect of all this adverse publicity has been shown to be surprisingly small.
Ue have sweated a lot and wr have groaned a lot, hut we are still standing and wc are still viable. I sense today within the indus try a greater feeling of confidence in the future than at any time in the past few years. Hut v/e must not rest contented.
t.Tu must remember that Dr. Celikoff has to date been far less suc cessful than our industry has in influencing the decisions of the various governmental regulatory agencies. This will make him try
. ORIGINAL
AFFIDAVIT OF ROBERT C. COHEN
STATE OF PENNSYLVANIA COUNTY OF PHILADELPHIA
) ) ss.: )
ROBERT C. COHEN, of full age,upon his oach, deposes sand says:
1. I am principal in Che firm of Knipes Cohen Associates , a shorthand
reporcing service located at 400 Market Street, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
2. In 1978 Knipes Cohen Associates was designated as che official
repository for documents of che Asbestos Textile Institute. 3. In February 1980 the deposition of Doris Fagan, executive secretary
of che Asbestos Textile Institute, was taken at che offices of Knipes Cohen
Associates.
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4. Ms. Fagan produced at her February 1980 deposition che originial
minutes of ATI meecings as maintained by her as executive secretary of che
Asbestos Texcile Institute.
5. From the dac.e of that deposition, I have been custodian of records
of chose originial minutes.
6. The originials of che ATI minutes have remained in che drawers at
che offices of Knipes Cohen Associates under my direction since Ms. Fagan's
deposition of February 1980.
7. Whenever copies of chose minutes are t quested by a party to che
asbestos litigacion, they are xeroxed by Knipes Cohen Associates' employees
under my direction and are certified.
8. The copies of che ATI minutes which l have provided are indicated as
:hibit "A" and are crue and accurace copies of documents identified by Doris
Fagan at her deposition on September 9, 1930.
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9. There have been no additions to, deletion from or alterations to the documents as identified by Ms. Fagan on Sepcemebr 9, 1980.
Sworn to and subscribed before
me this L. .nr"*, day of October,1988
ROBERT C. COHEN
Nctarv FUMCC. APPhlnlaINGp TCN Wv Co.t)rn,rsion t-*-p--i-r-ci C_ c;a i. jj.oj
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res fkxrt -ZWar/ tlts.
Z an sure that many ci you have es^ed yourselves,
41 X have ashed ayseif. why ha* the
industry seaai.-.ri/
bcn sir.? I ad out as the prtsa eargat far so aany aasvlts by
government, ichor, tha press, certain sagnents of the medical
profession, and ay various *nvironr.ensai and consumer activut groups?
Why us? Can asbastos really ba all that bad? ,\-B '
the products we produce -truly going to Sciil sillier.* of Americans, as seme experts have predicted? Cr is there sema sere of nefarious conspiracy a root to destroy the aaheotrs ir.dustr*/?
The answer ca the guastion of "Why us" is both complex and simp!a. Coaplax because is :a a rsr.Mnatirn :: three
interrelated but separata factors. Simple boeause each of r.*.a factors is, when consiftrad by itself, ruite oovitua.
ha thrae factors are {1} aabccins *iua*s
(2) 4 ssoAisasa arase to champion the nau;; for tsuncos osnortl,
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Uj (31 4 c3l"SSp-4 of new 5cvicr.rar.c
v*st sot up ca
central tiiin?s that causo disooso. tot t.Mii tie-oss in turn.
icck *c 4ifi}' *
rirat, t*i:i is no doubt thoa * iaholoticn of
substantial recants cf is:eu:s can load -3 Inert Mod recti of
various types cf Imp disease, ir.eludin* two *3ra* ef eanesr.
?hts ara facts which carnet so domed. *'*** i*
do not
opply in oil eirc-itscirees ar.d under all ecr.diticns. The
nodical liaerataro > full of solid evidence
asbestos
:o disoooo. In by effict, X hove on file taro cm.-. 2,:::
eodieal papers itolar? witr tno health risks of esbosccs an hundreda nore ore published every year.
Secc.-.dly, the spreader.? of aitrn ever eho health risks of ubtitot has os iss ;.*:c< spekassaa cr.o cf cho rest calor.csd aedieel publicises of cho e?e------ Or. Irvanp Z. Seiikoff if Now fork's .fount Sinai Kespical. Not er.ly is Sr. Salikoff
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eapablo of arousing the ir*
--sre! ir.iig.-.aof the .-ait
eesurvicvi
or poii'.iciia with ;ii graphic
ar.d predictions of the ravages of asbestos, but ha has also
surrounded hitsalf with a group of a ini lari/ talented publicity
ecnscious associate* who have carried 6he Mount Sinai sassage
so sta for corners of she r.i:icr..
<
While Or. Saiikcff has. in his xeai, unquestionall
pointed a far darker picture chan the facts warrant, ve should
always retetier m his dafensa chic cha insulation workers he
has keen studying for tore char, a decade were ar.d still art
dying fres asbestos ralstad disease at an appalling rasa,
this would ha enough to cloud or.*/ .tan's chinking.
Finally, in cha past decade chare has Peer, a tretchdc
growth in public and goyarntar.ccl incsrtst in environter.tal
and occupational health tatters. this interest has been
translated into a striae of far-reaching laws affacting industr*
ana:.- "=>
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iaa NMt; hitherte unknown '-a this or any ot.-.e: country.
Z believe is is ic:-:at to 5*/ chat cheia new Laws, sues
as- the oeswpatisr.Al Safety end Health Act. ehe Cle*n Air Art,
cat Crr.ju.ttr fra ter eta n Art, end ochtn. hivi forever eieertd
the car.ceat of
free
ivitta aj ie was known la
caii country far 4 hundred end fifty years. Thus, in essoinicier, these caret factors crtecad
a situation ia which a cadre 0/ freshly created federal a?er.cic
with scran? scAtutrry authority, wtrt prodded lata assigning
priority status ta isbistrs by :r. Saiikcif and has followers,
who uatd and ia scat cists misused the ;:iAt wealth of negative
AS tistti'-'iil*" data contained in tht seedier! Itttracure ta achieve these ends.
Za short, tht asbestos industry was singled out
because it was vulnerable ta attack, because thart was soneer.e
willing, lirast anataur. ta Issd chat attack, ar.c because
Congress had graciously provided the vehicle* far such a-. asss;
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Haw ucii of vhae Cr. SoiiJcoif says jbeue astaj; ax and itannar in wr.ie>. .w.a has abusad ci.a avs; iail* R<;
4c in order to ilcw up an assantiaily ccr-ipationai sSiea lACO 4 national calamity are :>;, whieii w shall anasina 4 bis lata;.
Tfl* bjc*<;rtund cf industry
eo daal wieb cha
asbaaess-haalth problam as a national issua fota back nearly
a daeada, to Sr. Stlikoii'* now faeou* ISid saainar on asbaat:
distant at the Haw York Acadaxy of Sciansas. Whila tills
dtd -o.k. to prtc.t t.k. industry's csr.aeianca about asbastos ar.i
??3S*M ciii cesainad ona of liaitad public and
*
pross in earas z until around i 9i7. wita t>.a codia ba**r. baaein?
tbo Bisdieal bcahaa searching for sesrtas en*t would graphisail-
portray Aaaracan industry** supposad essplata dis;a?rd for
tbo anvirsnrant and for tha Haaltii and safsey of its verkaan
4Ad tha Aaartcan public. Tisa asbaocos-haalth prebias was found
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to bo tailor-aAda .'9; such icc::ii er.d 3r. Sali^cff was net hositar.t in catering to tns sehsacienaiist whim of eh* press. fa a rssuls, starting with Peui arodeur's infaitcus Xv.i '.'oricar
of Mirsh I9fia, asbestos has sines frown into an itsa
of xajor press interest. Zn chose years, industry efforts to eetiit the spate
of negative press Articles on asbestos were carried on primarily by the Johns-Mir.ville Corporation, which see up a task fores of specielists in various fields to do vties it oould to portray the problem in its proper perspective, while see* amor successes were achieved, it wes found chat no one cespeny acting independently could adequately or effectively represent an er.tir industry in dealing with the press end with government cfiieicls
As e result, in lata 1970, eight eospeniee gathered in Xav York City to launch the Asbestos indorsation Assoeiaeian of North America, which wes frankly patterned eftar the British
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fra* our rather r.arrcw initial public relitienj cc.-.ca;
Oi Association has grewn in ths lit; two years into an
organisation with priorities in tight aajor fialii ot endeavor.
Tim uii
Medical Affairs legal Affairs Government Affairs Er.v iremental canted Publicity and Public Relations Customer Relations Employee Relations, and Inter-industry Relations
In briefly discussing A!A ac ivitits in each of chase
fields. I will leave government affairs for last. ot because it has A law priority within the Association --- in fact it is
currently the nest iapactant --- but because it is the asost
cooplicetad and requires the coat discussion.
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To to** our cuvit;4i one as a tirj then .......... eedical affairs.
X5 ij an obvious fact that if an organisation u to ***** authoritatively on a medical metier, it must net only be seapad in the literature of that particular nodical subject, but it must also kaaa itself constantly indorsed of new discove: and developments. Tfiii we have accomplished in a number of ways Tor example, by sending representatives eo important medical see tings, sueh as Mu 1972 international eonference on the biological affects of attests* held at lyon in frar.ee, whirr, was sponsored by world Health Organisation.
.Both John Karsh, the Preside.-.: of the AJA, and E attended that eonfarenre on behalf of the Association.
Wo also meet on an irregular basis with various nedis'ai exper.i in the .eld. both from the United States and abroad, to roviev and discuss recent dovelopBents end discoveries.
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Our literature research is eased considerably by
receiving the monthly eedical paper distribution ad the
Institute of Occupational and Envirerunancal Health in Montreal,
which is fundad by the Quebec Asbestos Mining Association.
This year, far the
time, the XIA has elected :a
sponsor medical research of its own. currantly underway is a
#9 ccapleeiiy AXA/MA funded study of chase sounds, which is being
conducted by Sr. Anyaond Murphy of the Harvard School of Public
Health. The purpose of the study is to find a r.aw cethod o:
determining an individual1 s potential susceptibility eo
disaaae.
The Association has also recently decided to contribute to sooo very exciting research into a possible eure for
oosoeholiocA through electromotive treatment. This study is
-being conducted at Somerset Hospital in Hew Jersey.
In the legal affairs area, the Association participated
ir. an amicus curai capacity in the law suit brought by the
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Industrial Union Department of the A/l/CIS against the
Oceupeticr.al Safety and Health Administration on the 4i;ut:i
standards. In our brief. which was considered by the Justice
department eo ba the best ono filed, the Association supported
OSHA against the
somewhat of a unices position for an
industry to find itself in vis-a-vis a governmental regulatory -
agency. Oral argument on tbs case -was held April 4 in Washington.
While a decision has yee to ba handed down by the Court of Appeals,
we are confident chat the ease will be decided in our favor.
Che Association has retained the services of C. 1.
Sheckler, with whoa many of you are familiar, as our special
consultant cn environmental control affairs. At the present
time, Cliff is working with the AIA/MA Environmental Control Sub-Coeaittao on the development of a series of five Association complianta manuals on the OS.MA standards. We expect to have
these manuals available within a short period of time.
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I44t year, because of the well established
ot the aasbrane
sie?.:i as * ranicoring tool in the ttittzzi
Industry, the AIA undertook the sponsorship of 4 study at 4
research laboratory in California to determine the iJ.'ic: of certain variable* or. the overall accuracy of the method. The
results of the saucy served an error factor of plus or nines 50 peresnt under ehs nose iaverabie of seasurir.g conditions* These results were sene ca been CSKA and to the National
Institute far eocupacicnsl Safety and Health. A number of the
rteer.'ssAdasions contained in the study far improving tho accuracy of the nethed nave been incorporated into a socn-tobe-released revised N13SM operasions manual on fiber counting.
In the cuseaitor ralacicns area, the caeal efface of negative prose publicity and government regulations on industry cuocomers is still today rather >ocrly defined. Some eanoero
of the Association have raportad serious problems in this area, while others have experienced few nr ne difficulties thus. far.
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Where customer predates do xist, they normally fii into one of five categories,
first, the customer haa thoroughly investigated his situation and rua found chat ha can no longer afford ee continue using asbestos or asbescos>car.ssinir.g products, aithar because cha coat of control is tea high or bacausa ho would hava to
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raise tha pries of his product to a lavcl that-would make it non-ccir.pecitive with r.or.-assestcs containing subs ei tut as.
Second. tha euatssar has r.oe thoroughly investigated his situation and only thinks shat ha can r.o longer afford to continue using asbestos.
Third, chs eustor.ar has read or.o or acra negative articles an asbestos in the. public press and has aada tha snap decision that *va ought to got that dangerous stuff out of eur plant.* Ofan, decisions of this nature are forced on top management by ill-informed medical advisors or safety and health directors.
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Four, ehs customer ha* neither a control problem r.er ij he particularly *freii of using asbestos in his own plant. However, ho is fearful that those of his ccmpetitiors *hcs finished products do r.ct contain asbestos will stress the adverts health effects of asbestos an crying to tike business away froo his. Custerer fears of this nature are essentielly `jut* reactions end hense extremely difficult to deal with. And .
Tive, the cusceaer hes none of these problems or feers tut he has been advised by a government official or inspector that ha would be better off if he quae using asbestos or asbesetscontaining products in has plant. While this problea does not
o
appear to be widespread, we have learned of a number of situstisr.s where is has occurred. Actions of this nature by government officials ero totally uncalled far end should bo doait with promptly end decisively. The best solution is te cbtair. templets iicails on tho incident and then to register a fcrsal c*.mpaant
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wish the offending official'* immediate superior or with the government agency involved.
The Association's first :net:on to the overall customer relations problem was to approve funds for a series. of four regional seminars as which industry customers would be given a number of basic presentations on the various aspects of the asbestos-health problem. The seminars were csneatlvely scheduled for the Spring of this year.
However, the experiences cf e number of our member companies showod that general catchall type seminars of the
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type originally contemplated would rot be effective in feeling
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with the na^enty of customer relations problems. In order
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to do the job properly, it was found that customer presentations have eo be tsiiorod to the needs and problems of the individual 1 customer.
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A* 4 ras^ls, the Assoeiatsn cancelled its scheduled uriii of sesihars and insuti elected ts develop
a nether of packaged slide presentations on such topics as "The Facts About Asbestos and Health," and 'Under standing the OSHA Aequlations ," which could ba usod by senior ccspanies as pars of a tailored presentation to individual customers. These slide presentations are still in tha works, but should ba available shortly.
As with custzr.tr relations, the Association feels that employee relations is a pros lea bast handled by the . individual aerher esr.par.ies. Thus far, the AIA's sole cc.-.triiution in this arae c: industry concern ha* been to prepare the draft of an Cnplcyeo Safety and Health Guide on AsbestosHealth, fho draft was roads available to the aeraer consanias for their own use and at least one. Aaybasaos-Kanhettan, has produced it in booklet fora fer distribution to all its eatloya*
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l personally bsliavo that eho employee relations aspect o!
cne asfesstos-haeith prchiac is one that has baen joraiy
neglected by uit car.?*nits within eh* industry, I **ei c:-.*t
this could dsveiop into a major problem arts 1a the naar duture
and that seeps should bo taker, now eo deal wish it. We know
that Dr. Selikodd ar.d various organised labor groups are
planning a dull seal* campaign to bring their interpretation
e
of eho esteatcshaalch preblem to the attention od asbestos
industry employees throughout the nation. Id tha industry
permit* this interpretation to t< disseminated unchallenged,
the consequences could be grave indeed.
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Xrtar-iftdusecy relation* ace beat defined ** kttpx- ?
c& industry informed about i.:?o::ia; new dava'cprar.cj on eh.
jevarrjtiAUi, Redacal ir.j praaa relation* front* eh** t<K;
asbaato*. Thi* i* acecapi^jhcd within th AIX by periodic
diaeribueion* ef damans* *r.d i.-forsaeier. to tha a*of
cospanl** and to othara ea cur mx'.ir.tj Uae.
Tha value of this aet^oisy can b* fafuad by the fact chat our overall isilli.-.* list ineraaaed froa approslaataly a dozen nano* in 1571 ea sore than *0 a year laear. Whil* we have had to t?i eh# list sonawhae ehl* year for iogiaeical
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rUioAi, we mua ;::a eAi frequent ;ee,;jic: we it;*: receive to be piaeed on the list that ehe aaceriai we sand out is tainrood and is of considerable value to those receiving it.
Hext to government affairs* our public relations and publicity actitities constitute ehe single largest consular of tine. effort and menay within the Association. Those of you vno are faailisr with the treatment that asbestos has been * receiving in ehe public press ovor the years can readily understand why this activity ranee so high on our priority list
What you say not understand ara the reasons why cur extensive efforts in dealing with the nation'e press have been
unsuccessful to date in producing the theoretics. balanced' or "positive* story on asbestos and health.
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ths Siffple fact la that iron tig standpoint of
."
P today's young aerivlse reporter, Industry is the bad guy, and
nothin? vs do,say or aehisvs ean tvar chan5 this impression.
It we spend 5100 million dollars on environmental control,
eht prass either says w ought eo have done it tsn years ago
T or that wo should have spent 200 million. It wo sponsor
msdieal research, they say we ere trying to buy favorable
'
results. Id we are opposed to ridiculously stringent standards*
they say we ars in favor of letting our employees die.
A television executive in Minneapolis described this
new breed of reporter as being *se intent on demolishing the
establishment that they would blindly destroy the credibility
of the media in the bargain." Another ?V executive, this
time in Chicago, stated *they want to make moral and political
and social judgments on their assignments and then take sides,
fever mind getting the facts straight."
tgm
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Aj i result of chi I
:< a jwor.zsr" philoset.v/
esbeatesvill
i hoc mw i:m czly ss Irsy as xhm navi
1 bad. Tha "good" chat asbestos deai is
U'vaa ar.d
proparty la oi r.o ecr.earn to the press.. Xi~teidt. iadtaccy
efforts to ?:s:ie: workman tr.i the fetssvl ptUtOi* Sraa asbestos
exposure will always be fiven cir.ir.al inforaation is direetly contrary to ta
rach at v as
irresponsible i.-.iustry produci.-.f a killas* jcaLuex. rac la
the sola ela.Tar.t of new* worthiness ir to atararsa nary.
the praas relations battle nil thscrrihre ha vtr.,
not when the aadia starts to prir.t poa-tiw s !ta.'is:ead
articles about asbestos, but when the press c-crsey so prist
a
anyth!a? about asbastos at all. Aa Lr.tr u .0B5b.ra.-ra oavs an
ubestos-haalth continue* to ba financed, tbai awdda will
eoaeiauo to aat it up. the cadia wall ssuj such aeorlaa when the feneration si nsfctsi'ia
to carry
ceasea ..
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it it * fispli ** tiut. Positive or balanced icariu 4., 4
chibera, fine* they era, by definition, not newsworthy.
toe ? give you 4 vorv Kieiil: oxar.pia a? * , '
principli in action. kt most of you alrsady know, the
<1<t
Association is currantiy engaged la on oxsoaoIvo campaign eo
iatjfiit thi trade ;;<u in articles on ehe benefits of asbestos
and on industry eceoapiishr.er.es In the environmental control
area. The trade press., unlike the national or public nedi*,
la stac?. m:i receptive to Article* of
nature and wo expees
to bo seeing a .".umber of positive stcrias in eh* trod* press
In cho none few nenths.
la Any eo**, wo al*o f:cs titi ea csso put out proa* riiujji
on various subjects relating to asbestos-health. k few weeks
*901 wo issued a releeso on the report of the Advisory e::oi;u
on escisto* cenoera of the World Health Organisation. la
brieft tho report ctnsludod thee the qer.aril public is not in
dinger frou asbestos in tho onvironsent. Thus far* wo have
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received Atari/ two do tan pres* elippinss ires trade publications
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that carried tha star/. to the boat of our knowledge, not a newspaper, nova aagasine, radio or tv station, or any ocher seyaant of the public codia ran the story, with tht single exception of a Cratch lar.;*aa<;a papor in Toronto. As S. said before, if tha taws is scad, tha pross ain't intarastad.
Nonetheless, tha Association has no intention of m abandoning our affects vis-a-vis tha national*cedis. Wa will continue to issua apprepriata praas raiaasaa, eooparata with feature writers coin? stories en asbestos, write scathing letters to tha editor whan those scoriae appear, and in short, do all wo ean to presant tha prase with a balanced viow of the asbestos-health situation.
Our cost rsesnt effort in this regard has been tha preparation and printing of an Asbastes and Health Infers*cion File, which w* hava aailad to scaa 3,053 newspapers, nagasir.es.
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U4 publications, radio and ?v station*, science writers tee. i
across tho United Scats*. Z have brought a half-doren files along with bo chat you can cake 4 look as after the testing. Basically, the file contain* eoplaa of the five industry position papers which were distributed earlier, as well as 4 number of important medical papers and 4 pair of photographs Illustrating the benefits of asbestos and industry efforts at
environmental control. You may bo interested to know that the Item chcse.n to illustrate the bsnofits of asbsseas is a fire-proof asbestos suit. while wo don't expect our information file to change the whole attitude of the press toward asoescos, we are hoping that the media will make use of it to.accurately report the industry's poeltlon whom doing stones on the subject.
had now, having hoard the bad side of the public
relations prcblam, it's tiso for the good news.
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And the food now* is .... despite ill the negative
articles on s*5st**-h*ic.h ths: have ippund in eha prss*
v; the past
yaaxs, v*ry fsw people have ton
Mying Attention. L*c s explain.
In rcfcruary, the Association undertook personal
interview research survey of ehe American public to determine
it* attitude toward asbestos and its awareness of the Health
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issue, the survey was eonduetad by the Opinion Research
Corporation during March and April. More than 2,000
demographies!ly selected Americans were interviewed. I have here with so sufficient copies for ell of you of a sveaary
of the results.
( ccxm&h? rso/j 5cy.MAAy i
Before going on to describe cur activities in the
government relatione tree, Z think it sight be interests::? ee this point to teke a very brief look at the Banner in
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which Dr* Solikof* *nd his supporters h*v* ustd h.s riscsrch
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results ts draaati:s end ixiffiriti tht h:iwsqii of ths
asbcsto-hslch prealea. X have two sliis* which point this
cue rbehe? conclusively.
si:xs 1------ WSSAACS OATA
The first slide shews the actual results c! or. Selifcof:
four mortality studies of assesses workers. The mutters la
parenthesis beside tr.a figures far total muster e! workers
indicate these who have so far died frea all eauses. The
percentage figures alongside the caul p.vuaber of deaehe froa
asbestos!.*, lung eaneer and siio^eiieu are based on the
total number of deaths froa all causes, not on the mutter of workers in the study.
The bos6 important study of the lot la eha saecnd fra the tsp, showing' the deaths frea asbostos^rclated disease
amen? al neitaers af the insulation workers union, rogsrcless
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el length of exposure, you will'cats tr-at 9*
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e.oss workers who hove died thus lax iarw died *xse one at
the three asbestos-related disease*.
These* then, are the feet* Sr. ImSJjeaHt -works frta.
This is whet he knows frea his own iar*%eti^T`ime>v mow 1st
us take e look ee whet he hes done wo.ua %ot*m IS^axe* la
order eo drasutise the prohlea.
sir is 2 --- psTtrrcTiga
This slide shews Or. Slifcc2',e jpestisr-risas shout
asbestos-related deaths ih the IV.iTjd otstrr. ..ihsus fsir.;
ir.to details, Dr. Selikoif hes errivud at `.Saa jaa^-ecaions by
ehs simple procedure of suitiplyi.ng -.?* saa-taxccja of deaths
frsa asbestoa-rel&tad disease aror.? are ir.xcia.tiie workers
by the to tel nether of eapisyees ifl rha -aruira irdLutry.
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you will Also note that ho has raised his projected
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death estiaaca co enorseu* heights over the pose year sy
siapiy increasing cho bus a figure of employees exposed, while
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still retaining the precencago multiplier of U por cone being
experienced by cho insulation workers.
f' Z- might point out chat this tactic, however Lepraper [31.
end deceptive, his boon in enoraoua success since eeeh
raising of tho estimate his aimed Dr. Sellkoff correspondingly
writer coverage by the media. Mo finer example exists of tho
Cr. Selikofi lur.ipulited and played on their prejudices to gain publicity. Z can readily envision the let of thea up
with which thay bambooslad tho press with those trusped-up predictions.
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Plaaaa den't pat m wpor.f, p4r.:;a.mn : hava lit:!#
doubt. that tha inaulacion workers AT a in fact dying aa rapidly a Dr SilUoji uyi tisay w, :.m probla la ha haa trar.aiittd
chair aarcalicy axparianea. to cha raaa of tha ancirt induatry,
which la absolutely ridieuloua. Za the firat plaea, tha aatlzacad r.webar of tnpLoyeca
la tha induacry la too high -- five tisea coo high to ba
prtciaa* Evan tioti important, acsordir.g to an analyaia by tha hsaoeiation of sort thin a cotan r-ortality atudiaa, including thosa of 9?. Salikoff, our pridiccion la choc approaimacaly 25,000 peat and present amployaaa i.n cha aabaatsa industry have died or will avantuaily dia of aabaatss*ralatcd diceasa. ^ thia ia laaa than ona-thirtaanth of Sr. Salikoff's moat Meant aatiaata. Za addition, our figures ahow that 20 ef tha 25,000 daathi -- or 10 par eant --- will occur among thoaa la tha
insulation trades.l.
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Whiit th#s tstaaates should be reassuring to chest
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we should not forges thee 3,000 of out workman era sell; 901,17
to dlt of asbestos-related disease and that, all things
considered, chart Is absolutely nothing that w can do to
prevans is. Ths only thing w can do is to elaan up our
plants to assure ehat those anearing ehe industry in tha future will not have the'same experience.
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Within the past year and a half, the flula e.iruse of
Association effort has shifted to the government affairs front.
The principal agencies in Washington with which we have bean
dealing art, of course, tha Occupational Safety and Health
Administration; the Environmental Protection Agency; the Food
and Drug Administration; tha Bureau of hints; and, to a lessor
dsgsea# *h* National Institute of Occupational Safety and Health,
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and the National institutes of Health, ioch cf which era
mainly involved an research efforts.
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In Additional few weeks ago we were contacted by
the federal Trade Commission, which had received a petition
from the Center for Science in the Public Interest requesting
an investigation of consular uses of asbestos for the purpose
of determining whether certain products ought to bo labalad
as hazardous and whether warnings should be required on all
advertisements for those products. On tha basis of my mooting
with an investigator frea tha FTC I would say eiut wa have
littla to worry about in this particular area.
S1I2S 4 ---- - OSXA
The Occupational 5afety and Health Administration
hae bean of enorxoue concern to the industry over the poet
II sonthe. As Most of you already know, tha Asaceiation
expanded trccendous efforts during the six month period
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IsadiAf to tho promulgation of last Juna's CSHA scaneards an
utiitai, X think It is 4
of the affietmnm of cha
total induauy involvaeant in thia east crucial nactar tht
of aiavan Min eaguiramanta in eha standard*, tho industry
position was aceaptad eoeally by OSHA on nina of eho aiavan,
bout fifty poreont cn conch, and totally rajectad on only one.
Now, of coursa, 0SH4 is planning to rado ch* standard
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paekag# and v ara working closaly with than on this proJact.
Tho first stop will ba tha formation of a 15 man advisory
caeaiccso eo raviaw eho current standards and any additional data and information that has bean davalopad in tha var sines
cht standards vera promulgated.
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Working in cooperation with ni.-.a ochar cnia associations,
Including your own, wo hava salaetad feus individuals aa industry*
wide racoeaendatiosa to OfHA for tho four so-callud employer
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pot4 on the Advisory ccrruttae. Tha fcur pccpia sciecuod t
wort Cuy Cabrialssn, President of Nicelet; Xka Weaver of
juybistoi-Manha.ttsnj Dr. rrd Pundsaex, Vico President sox
Research And development of Johns*Manvllla,* And Cliff Sheckler. In discussing tha formaeion of cho advisory coenisteo
with John O'tteill of tha OSKA Standards Development Section,'
wa vara askad to add a coup la of nanas to tha list so that
OSHA would have at laast tha semblance of a selection. This
va have agreed to do.
The committee will ha given up to nine months to
eespleee ti'e deliberations and prepare ior CSKA a revised
standard package. This will b followed by public hearings,
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approximately a year fres now. Wa do not expect to sea a
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new standard promulgated before the Fall of 1974,
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IG 1* c couri* mpossibio eo daeermne at this *ir4 whcs ehe rav standards will loo* liko, hswover, : would vanra-, ea say chat thoy will certainly net be less strict then ^ onas wa have eoday, although ahoy will probably b loss confusing and leave less room for employer interpretation. Something will ur-cuascionably ba dona to improve tha currant difficulties with tha monitoring requirements.
SLXO 3------NIOSK ?hsa slides by tbs way, are merely simplified organisation charts of tha various agoneies wish wbicb we deal ia Washington. ?ho r.ain function of tha National Inscscuca for Occupational Safety and Health ia to conduct research and to prepare so-called Crleeria Packages, which are essential!/ racessaniaeicns eo OSHA for standards on various materials and chemicals 3ucb a package on asboeccs was prepared
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fay tCOSN as the tiae of tha OSHA proceed!ngs In: v4r. mxosk
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will not fao preparing 4 new or revised crittru package (or the upccsir.g raviaw of tha ash#jeer standards.
S do not believe it would ba unfair to toy that of all tha 49afici.ii in Washington dealing with aebaeeoe, Dr. Selikoff has had his greatest influer.co on tha young idaaliatie scientists and doctors at MZOSH. Consequently! industry influence is weakest in this 49ancy. It was MIOSH, after ell. that oada tha original recormandation for a eve fiber standard in tho asbestos industry.
Stirs 6 --- i?A Hast to OSHA, tha Snvtronsantal Protection Agency ha. tha greatest potential of any fadsrsl agency for adversely affecting tha future of the asbestos industry in this country, not only is tha spa responsible for developing and enforcing air and water pollution standards, bus tha Toxicr Substances
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Control Act, now 'pending 1a Congress, wii: else becomt an ?;, function after passage.
For this reason, I an pleased ea be able ec lay that the asbestos industry has an sxeellsnc relationship with tha E?A. No finer proof of this exists than tho fact that thara waa r.ot a single me3or industry reconsiendation or suggestion sad* to tho EPA at cha public hearings on tha proposed asbestos
emission regulations that was r.ot accepted either in toto or . in principle in tho final standards, which were published in early April of this year.
We are presently working with tha E?A on tha development of waste vatar effluent standards for asbestos manufacturing plants. Wa fully'expect that these standards will turn out to be as reasonable ae the air pollution regulations. Tha proposed effluent standards ars scheduled to be published in tho Federal Register in early July, This will be follewad by'
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public hearings. probably in late July or August, with the final standards boa*.? promulgated in the fall, perhaps as arly as October.
w are also planning, in the near future, to meet in Washington with representatives from the etandarda development and enforcement tranches of the c?A to dieeuee with them questions of interpretation and compliance policy with regard to the new air pollution regulation!.
We have already resolved one interpretation question that is ef special interest to ma asbestos textile industry. Approximately two weeks ago : was asked by a member company of the Association to find out whetr.er the Z?A was planning to require the manufacturers of asbestos safety clothing to register ae potential emission sources under the law.
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In discussing the situation ever the phone with Z?k eonplitnct officials, I tr;ui4 that the producers of asbestos safety clothing vara not manufacturers aa defined in cha regulations but were instead only fabrication of an asbaseos product, and aa such, should not hava to racistar as pocantial amission sources.
After our phono conversation ended, a brief Beating was hold among the EPA compliance people. Z was chan called back and inforaed that chay agreed with ca that the aafaty clothing producers should not be required to regisear.
While this rather ainor problem took approximately an hour and a half end two or enraa phor.a cells to resolve,
it is indicative of the type of day-to-day services chat the Association provides for its aenber coapenies.
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SLIiE 1------ F3A Ovar tha ?aat yaar eha food and Orug Adninixtracian r.i mown 4ft increaai.-.g Ucaraat in ubiicei 4< 4 poxtibja hazardou* eone4A4ft4ftc in varioua Food*, bavorag** *nd drug*. Lae* in HTl they sat up 4A asbasees cask fore* to raviv eha xituation and to propoxt regulations and guide Una a whara eppropriata. Thu* far ehay hav* eoncaneratad chair afforta In ewo area* --* on eha us* of ashaseas'conear.cnased tale in food packaging and in sssnacics, and secondly, on eh* uaa of aatesco* ealulosa filcar pad* in :ha iavaragt and drug industries. Cn our first meeting wish eha tzx cask Corea laae Uovaxitar on cha filcar problem, ebay demonstrated an appalling ignorance about eh* healeh hasarda of axbaxeo*. Sine* than, thay hava gotten on* hack ci a lot smarter, dua at lease in
part so cha trenandoua amount of data and information which
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the Association has bean supplying to than. As a censaqv tha 7DA la today las* panicky about asbestos and er.orafor less likely to propose foolish, unsvipportoble regulation* Spokesmen from tha fCA hava, in fact, dafandad eha 511tar ; against environmentalist attacks in tha press and alsawhar recant nenths. This is, quite obviously, a healthy sign.
3LI5C I --- INTEREST CROUPS Sines our contacts with tha National Institutes oi
a
Health have bean quite air.laul, and since eha health and safety section ei tha Bureau of Minos is presently being reorganised, we can now preeaed eo taka a brief look at tha
various interest groups that have bean in eha forefront of
tho assault on asbestos. These ara the groups and organica: that eoeetieuti *tha other side.*
As you can sea, thara are a lot of chaa, and betwee; ehaa ehay con exert powarful pressure on legislators and administrators at all levels of government.I
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Since time i* wt available to diseuse sac.1! at their activities and philosophies in detail, t would Ilka to say that we keep a close watch on all of the* and axe always prepared to take whatever action is appropriate when they
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step out of lane.
sixer psojrcTOR err----- light oh
Our activities in the area of Congressional relationms have been quite minimal to date, although we ere preparing for the upcoming struggle 1a Congress over workmen's compensation reform legislation, at which tana asbestss is unquestionably going to be racked over the coals by Or. Selikoff and his compatriots in organized labor.
Unfortunately, the Association has neither the manpower nor the time to embark on a full-scale legislative information program* We have met on occasion with tho legislative and legal assistants to various Senators who have attacked asboszos.
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however such ao?s need* te be dona in chi a are* and I a* afraid individual samba? eonpeaie* ara 90in? to hava to be the prise bell carrier* and not the Ajeaeiaeion.
For essentially the ease reason# our governnenc activities at c.-.a state and local laval hava daelinad ca essentially aero over eha past yaar and a half. This ha* not bean too carious a deficiency a* most of the authority of
the citiee and stated in tsbaseos control has been usurped by the varioue federal regulatory agencies. Nonetheless# cere individual coapany activity is required at thase laval* of governs*c.
Zn conclusion# I chink wa can all ba justifiably
pleased with what ve have bean able to acceaplish ir. the past few years in resolving the cornucopia of interrelated proslass that constitute the asbestos-health situation.
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Gur plants
cliir.oj and our vaslimon tosta; pretoetad,
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tn general public hos toon shown to bo in no danger froo
asbestos, id it ovor wa. While wo hovo soon ragulacad
ontsnsivoly, for cho moot port cho standards that hovo boon
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developed hovo nee boon os bod os wo fsorod ehoy night bo,
ond in sens rasas ehoy turned cue for better thon wo ovor
dorad hops. In addition, whila wo ora still coking our luapa
in the public pross. tno noe aiface of oil this odvarsa
publicity has bscn shown ta ba surprisingly small.
tfo hava sweated a lot and ws nova groaned a lot, bus
wa ara still standing and we ora seill viable. I sense ted ay
within the industry a graatu; foaling of caniider.ee an the
future than ae any time in the pose faw years. Sue wa muse
not rate contented.
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Vi euts rcaorhor that cr. soU/.off rue ce data bean
fr laaa aueeoaaful than ouf industry ha* in influencing chi dceUier. 0/ chi various govoranancal raguiatory agendas. , mil will make hia ery harder. Juie laic wick I caw a speech of Mi in which h purposely misinterpreted come data by a distinguished iritisr. scientist la order to prove that even two fibers la not a sufficiently safe laval for occupational exposure to asbestos.
fhs struggle ii far froa over. Wo nuit not only continue out indeed expand our activitiea in the varleui
eratc of concern if wa era to assure cha future well-being
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Thanh you vary much.
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