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CONFIDENTIAL .. T/SWEDEN MEETING VITH ESSO EUROPEAN AT 50. STRATTON ST. V.l. AT 3 n.m, ON TUESDAY 5th MARCH . 1968. PURPOSE To inform Professor R. Kehoe and Octel of the Swedish situation according to Esso Sweden experience. PRESENT: Dr". C. Fleming - Dr. J. Hamer - Mr. Brian Fauliener - Esso European Esso Euroj>ean Esso European Mr. P. Hansen - Esso Sweden Mr. V. Rusher Mr. D. llornbeck - Ethyl S. A. Brussels Ethyl S. A. Brussels Pro. R. Kehoe - University of Cincinatt PS IB CLG ` - Octel 1. Paul Hansen said that the lead problem in Sweden for leaded gasoline started vith the publishing of the Danielsson report. Danielsson being a M . S c , Ch e m ., and as a Civil Servant being employed since 1964 on the Natural Resources Conservation Committee. Danielsson is approximately 35 years of age, and is not easy to deal with as lie has a remote suspicious manner. 2. The Ministry of Communications in Sweden has an Exhaust Emissions Group, of which Professor Gerhardsson is the Chairman. The Ministry of Agriculture has a Toxicity and Pesticides Panel, part of the Natural Resources Conservancy Board, which employs Danielsson, - 3. There are six people in the Emissions Group, of which Hansen is one from the Petroleum Industry. A member from the Atomic Energy Centre, Engineer La.rbon from Volvo and an Engineer from Scania Vabis and a member from the Road Department. This Group reports to the Minister of Communications. 4. The present Chairman cum Secretary of the SPI is a lawyer - Mr. Klintberg. The SPI are not technically based in their permanent staff and rely on their members for technical infor mation, such as the requisite letter required by the Minister of Health on the facts of life for leaded gasoline. . ,.>,1, ... Cont *d.... IQintberg is in favour of a compromise solution in that the Oil Industry shall agree to some lowering of the use of lead alkyls in gasoline. This the SPI members are strongly opposed to any form of lawyers compromise. They wish the situation judged on the facts which they hope Professor K. will be able to provide. The Ministry of Agriculture, through the Toxicity and Pesticides Panel sets the use of all poisons via its Poisons board. The present permitted lead level maximum is G.84 gms lead/litre equivalent to 3mls/TKL/USG. Why reduce lead content, this at the moment is notional and hysterical, as was shown by the T. V. programme which was Mrigged by cutting film of interviews, apparently for the benefit of the nnti-lead lobb y . At the Scales/iiornbeck meeting with the Swedish SPI in r:;4ock he In early February,_ Danieisson took a. long time tc "open his mouth" when he put up a. poor performance. Hansen decided then that a Medical investigeti on was necessary by first week in March, otherwise irresponsible action might be taken by the Swedish Authorities. A suggestion to penalise lead content in aso1xno by odded ta x was under consideration. Both Ministers of Communications ar.d Agriculture cun bo removed from office by a charge in Government at the 1968 September election. Pro fessor K , asked Hansen if the Ministers concerned can he convinced that the lord situation created by Danielsson is nonsen.se. Can the situation then be held ponding, if necessary, f. proper investigation by qualified peoj>le. Hansen answered ye s end no, .1.e . the situation is dicey. Han sen pointed out that as far as the public outcry ji.s concerned, if this can be or gani.sed by Han ie1sson , it wi 11 be a case c f sbooting first and a.s!Ving question s a ftorva rd s . Apparently Professor Yost - University of Gottingen, Germany, who, by his statements in an unscripted lecture at the 7th V,TC Mexico City, that lead must be removed from gasoline for health reasons is not yet in the situation. Pro. K. pointed out in the Swiss situation economics were not consi dered.Yny threat by lead to public health from leaded gasoline, the lead would have been out of the gasoline by law and Oil Industry thinking would confirm this. 90/o of the factual information at the Washington Seminar on lead in 1966 in front of Senator Kuskie came from the University of Cincinatti Kettering Laboratories of Industrial Toxicology. The anti-- lead lobby put up a very poor performance, which at times showed lack of a sense of resx'onsibility. C o n t 'd HB 14. Fro. K. as a source of information for the defence of the lead industry had been accused of bias by Danielsson and others. Pro. K. sy'opks for the University of Cincinatti and the Kettering Institute and not on behalf of any industry,to give factual in formation to people who are not familiar with the problems of industrial toxicity, not only with lead, but with other elements. 15 Hansen thought Professor Gerhardsson, though not Medically qualified, was well qualified in the sciences, being factual and objective. . 16. Hansen tabled a list of people invited by Pro. Or. for a meeting in Stockholm with Pro. K. 2.30 p.m. Board Room of the Scandinavian Bank, This will include carefully selected members of the Press who are known to be professionally qualified to write articles for Medical journals etc. Should the Press be ex cluded this will foul up the situation, Pro. K 's, discussion will be tape recorded, for the record in event of subsequent dispute. 17. Dr. Dahl - Mynas/betel Medical adviser will be invited to the meeting at the request of Dr, Barry. 18. Pro. K, then ran over the philosophy of the situation ns lie saw it, pointed out .some difficulties in the United Stales, where each Sta te of the Union handles its own health problems, some times well, sometimes not too well. Thus the situation was not uniform in s>ch affairs throughout the Union. Pinally Prof.K. said it would be fatal if he was introduced to any meeting in Sweden as an American expert who had come to straighten the matter out. This must develop naturally. CLG/MTV 6.3.1968 cr 0004998 Mchidagen dor, 11 mars 1968 I*-o <*-*,.^ _ ^ O T ^ V o t T W < ~ \ ~ . S -- ,k . Professor Ernst Abrahamsson, Statens Insitut for Folkhlsan,* , j Solnavgen 1, Stockholm 60 (v.oi'df. i Giftnmnden) ' VCCnc=\/Wi Docent Kim Cramer, Sahlgrenska Sjukhuset, Gteborg SV * Fil.lic. Lennart Danielsson, Englundavgen 8, Solna iQle>U i/VuX*u^ . verdirektr Sven Forssman, Arbetsmedicinska Institutet, Fack, Stockholm 60 Professor Gideon Gerhardssor., Svenska Arbetsgivarefreningen, Box 16120, Stockholm 15 , - ^\ ' S'v(*vi '-* 1 VJ* Docent Ivar Holroqvist, Bolidens Gruv A3, Rnnskrsverken, Skelleftohcmr. DepartementsrSdet, Allan Johansson, Kungl. Jorcbruksdepartementet, Pack, Stockholm 2 5> Civilingenjr Halvar Johansson, Teknisk Tidskrift, Box 341, Stockholm 1 \_>d -C^\eJL~^ 0-A'y>-- . Direktor Rolf af Xlintberg, Svenska Petroleum Institutet, Sveavgen 23, Stockholm C Redaktor 3o Kumlin, Sveriges R.cjiio, Box 955^Stcekholrn 1 Redaktor Lennart Lundegrdh, Svenska Dagbladet, Box 594. Stockholm 1 Fil.dr. 3engt Lundholm, Statens_ Maturvetenskapliga Forsknir.gsrad, Box 23135, Stockholm 23 0 =>s s , Lkartidnir.gen, Villagatan 5, Stockholm C c -A') verlkare Koje Magnusson, Kungl. Arbetarskyddsstyrelsen, Pack, Stcckhc! 34 Redaktor Thomas Hichelsen, Dagens Ryheter, Box 133, Stockholm 1 Ar*Byrchef Gran Persson, Statens Maturvrdsverk, Luftvrdsbyrn, Fack, Solna 1 V f*.L T O'-*--- ter o.i.A- Med.dr. Ragnar Rylander, Statens Institut fr Folkhlsan, Solnavgen 1, Stockholm 60 * Dr. Carl-Henrik Skoglund, Kornsgatan 124, Stockholm SV cf- Farm.lic. Ulla Swaren, Giftnmnden, Box 7106, Stockholm 17 "* ` - Docent ke Swensson, Arbetsmedicinska Institutet, Fack, Stockholm 60 . R>*r (s:BvSV rlK.S. Departementsrdet K.O. Wennerhorn, Kungl. Kommunikationsdepartementet, Fack, Stockholm 2 LJ^~ _ K* 0004399