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FILE NAME: Union Carbide (UC) DATE: 1982 DOC#: UC097 DOCUMENT DESCRIPTION: Unpublished Report - Safety and Health Program
UNION CARBIDE CORPORATION
M E T A L S DIVISION
P. O. B O X K . K I N G C I T V , C A L I F O R N I A 9 3 9 3 0
SAFET AND HEALTH PROGRAM King Cit'' California
PHILOSOPHY
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PEOPLE ARE UNQUESTIONABLY OUR MOST IMPORTANT ASSET - THEIR SAFETY AND HEALTH IS.
OUR GREATEST RESPONSIBILITY. ACCIDENT - PREVENTION IS A PRIME MANAGEMENT FUNCTION
AND IS THE ACCOUNTABILITY OF THE LINE ORGAINZATION.
FUNDAMENTAL PRINCIPLE!
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THE SAFETY AND HEALTH OF OUR EMPLOYEES, BOTH AT WORK AND AWAY FROM THEIR JOBS, IS
OF PRIME IMPORTANCE TO UNION CARBIDE AND TO THE METALS DIVISION. OllR EMPLOYEES
ARE PROVIDED WITH SAFE AND HEALTHFUL WORKING CONDITIONS. THE STANDARD OPERATING
PROCEDURES, WORK PRACTICES, AND SAFETY AND HEALTH RULES ASSURE WORKER'S SAFETY
AND MUST BE OBSERVED BY ALL EMPLOYEES. ACCIDENT PREVENTION IS AN INTEGRAL PART
OF OPERATIONS. MANAGEMENT ASSUMES THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR SAFETY AND HEALTH WHICH
IS MAINTAINED THROUGH EFFECTIVE PLANNING, ORGANIZATION, LEADING AND CONTROLLING AT
EACH LEVEL OF SUPERVISION. PERSISTENT ATTENTION IS DIRECTED TO SAFETY AND HEALTH
EDUCATION, THE ELIMINATION OF HAZARDS AND CREATING A DEEP AWARENESS IN ALL EMPLOY
EES OF THE DIRECT CONNECTION BETWEEN THEIR OWN ACTIONS AND THE PREVENTION OF ACCI-
THE RESPONSIBILITY OF COORDINATING SAFETY AND HEALTH ACTIVITIES AND THE SAFETY AND
HEALTH PROGRAM WITHIN THE DIVISION IS PLACED WITH THE DIVISION'S SAFE OPERATIONS
COMMITTEE.
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CERTAIN BASIC ACTIVITIES ARE CONSIDERED ESSENTIAL TO ESTABLISHING EFFECTIVE SAFETY AND HEALTH PROGRAMS WHICH WILL LEAD US TOWARD OUR GOAL OF FREEDOM FROM ACCIDENTS.
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SAFE TIT AND HEALTH ACTIVITIES, WHICH EACH OF OUR OPERATIONS MUST ESTABLISH AND UTILIZE, ARE LISTED IN THE STANDARD APPLICATIONS PROCEDURES FOR SAFETY AND HEALTH.
THE MUTUAL DEDICATION TO SAFETY AND HEALTH PRINCIPLES AND COOPERATIVE EFFORTS OF ALL EMPLOYEES WILL LEAD US TOWARDS OUR GOAL OF AN OUTSTANDING SAFETY AND HEALTH PERFORMANCE. EACH EMPLOYEE IS EXPECTED AND REQUIRED TO PERFORM HIS OR HER JOB AS PRESCRIBED BY THE ESTABLISHED RULES AND PROCEDURES FOR SAFETY AND HEALTH EDUCATION AND SAFE WORK PERFORMANCE.
MANAGEMENT WILL PROVIDE AN ATMOSPHERE OF SAFETY AND HEALTH CONSCIOUSNESS THROUGH OUT THE ORGANIZATION; SCHEDULE AND PARTICIPATE IN SAFETY AND HEALTH PROGRAMS AS RECOMMENDED BY THE DIRECTOR OF SAFETY AND DIVISION SAFETY STEERING COMMITTEE LEADING TO A SAFETY AND HEALTH PERFORMANCE CONSISTENT WITH DIVISIONAL GOALS SET FORTH BY MANAGEMENT. PERSISTENTLY REVIEW THE IMPROVEMENT OF FACILITIES AND PROCEDURES TO PROTECT AND PRESERVE THE HEA12H AND SAFETY OF ALL EMPLOYEES.
ESTABLISH AND MAINTAIN THE FRIENDSHIP AND UNDERSTANDING OF THE CITIZENS IN THE COMMUNITIES IN WHICH WE OPERATE. DEMONSTRATE OUR CONCERN IN PROTECTING THE EN VIRONMENT: ASSURE COMPLIANCE WITH ALL STATE AND FEDERAL HEALTH AND' SAFETY LAWS AND REGULATIONS.
SPECIAL ATTENTION WILL BE GIVEN TO LOCAL AND STATE ENVIRONMENTAL STANDARDS. AN ATTITUDE OF COMMITMENT TO ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERN WILL BE MAINTAINED TO ENSURE THAT THE OPERATION CAN CONTINUE WITHOUT INTERRUPTION DUE TO NON-COMPLIANCE WITH AN EN VIRONMENTAL STANDARD. ALL ENVIRONMENTAL MATTERS. WILL BE BROUGHT TO THE ATTENTION OF DIVISION'S DIRECTOR OF ENVIRONMENTAL CONTROL FOR REVIEW AND GUIDANCE.
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KING CITY MILL AND MINE SAFETY AND HEALTH POLICY THE SUBJECT OF SAFETY AND HEALTH CANNOT BE STRESSED TOO GREATLY. SAFETY AND HEALTH IS GOOD BUSINESS. IT AFFECTS EACH ONE OF US WHEN OUR OWN EMPLOYEE IS INJURED. NOT ONLY DO WE FEEL CONCERNED FOR THE PERSON AND THE PERSON'S FAMILY, BUT WE OFTEN FEEL ANGRY WHEN IT LOOKS AS THOUGH THE PERSON WAS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR HIS OR HER OWN SAFETY AND HEALTH. WE OFTEN FEEL REMORSE BECAUSE WE DID NOT FORESEE THAT SOMETHING WOULD HAPPEN AND DID NOT TAKE STEPS TO PREVENT IT.
ACCIDENT PREVENTION AND HIGH PRODUCTION GO TOGETHER PRODUCTION IS EASIER AND QUALITY IS BETTER, WHEN ACCIDENTS ARE PREVENTED. ACTU/OLY, IT TAKES LESS TIME AND COSTS LESS MONEY TO PREVENT ACCIDENTS THAN IT DOES TO HAVE THEM. SAFETY AND HEALTH, THEREFORE, IS NOT SOMETHING FOR US .TO .WORK AT IF WE HAVE THE EXTRA TIME. SAFETY IS GOOD BUSINESS -- FROM OUR STANDPOINT, FIOM THAT OF OUR COMPANY, AND FROM THAT OF OUR EMPLOYEES. WE MUST DO ALL WE CAN TO PREVENT ACCIDENTS. ACCIDENTS COST MONEY AND RESULT IN HIGHER COSTS AND LOWER PROFITS. MONEY SPENT FOR ACCIDENTS IS NOT LIKE MONEY SPENT FOR MATERIAL AND WAGES. THERE IS NO RETURN ON MONEY SPENT FOR ACCIDENTS.
SUMMARY THE JOINT COOPERATION OF TOP MANAGEMENT, SUPERVISORS, AND EMPLOYEES IS NECESSARY TO ACHIEVE A SATISFACTORY SAFETY AND HEALTH PERFORMANCE. EACH EMPLOYEE IS EXPECTED, AND REQUIRED, TO PERFORM HIS OR HER JOB AS PRESCRIBED BY THE ESTABLISHED RULES AND PROCEDURES FOR SAFETY AND HEALTH WITHIN OUR DIVISION. MANAGEMENT, HOWEVER, MUST ASSUME THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR SAFETY AND HEALTH EDUCATION AND SAFE WORK PERFORMANCE.
THE SUPERVISOR WHO ACCEPTS HIS FULL RESPONSIBILITY FOR SAFETY AND HEALTH MUST LEARN THE WORK HABITS AND INDIVIDUAL DIFFERENCES OF HIS PEOPLE BECAUSE THESE AFFECT THEIR ABILITY TO WORK SAFELY. SUPERVISORS MUST SEE THAT THEIR PEOPLE ARE WELL INSTRUCTED
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IN SAFETY AND HEALTH PROCEDURES. THEY HEED TO CHECK THE CONDITIONS OF EQUIP MENT AND THE EFFICIENCY OF WORK METHODS TO MAKE SURE NO UNSAFE CONDITION OR PRACTICE EXISTS. THEIR PEOPLE MUST KNOW THEM TO HAVE CONFIDENCE IN THEM,- XKEY KNOW SUPERVISORS REGARD SAFE WORK AS IMPORTANT.
TO BE A GOOD SAFETY AND HEALTH MINDED SUPERVISOR, AS WELL AS A GOOD PRODUCTION MINDED SUPERVISOR, REQUIRES A BROADENED UNDERSTANDING OF GOOD SUPERVISORY TECHNIQUES. AS SUPERVISORS BETTER THEIR CREW'S SAFETY PERFORMANCE, THEY FREE THEMSELVES OF THE ANNOYANCE OF ACCIDENTS AND HAVE MORE TIME FOR PLANNING AND IMPROVEMENTS.
AS THE 1982 SAFETY AND HEALTH PROGRAM STATES, WE MUST PRACTICE WHAT WE PREACH. NOTHING WRECKS A LOCATION SAFETY RECORD FASTER THAN SUPERVISORS WHO MERELY GIVE LIP SERVICE TO THE SAFETY PROGRAM. THEIR PEOPLE JUDGE THEIR ATTITUDE AND ACTIONS FAR MORE THAN WHAT THEY SAY IN A SAFETY MEETING. AS SUPERVISORS WE MUST LET OUR PRESENCE BE A CONSTANT REMINDER THAT SAFETY IS OUR POLICY. .
SUPERVISORS WHO BLAME ALL ACCIDENTS ON "CARELESSNESS" OF THEIR CREW ARE NO BETTER OFF THAN THE FELLOW WHO TRIES TO START A CAR BY KICKING THE TIRES. THE MECHANIC WHO UNDERSTANDS HOW THE PARTS OF A CAR WORK HAS THE BASIC INFORMATION FOR LOCATING TROUBLE AND CORRECTING IT. SIMILARILY, SUPERVISORS WHO KNOW THE ELEMENTS OF AN ACCIDENT AND HOW THEY CONTRIBUTED TO THE INJURY HAVE A TOOL FOR SECURING THE RIGHT FACTS UPON WHICH TO BASE CORRECTIVE ACTION. THEY ALSO HAVE A TOOL FOR EFFECTIVELY PLANNING AND PERFORMING ALL THIER SAFETY DUTIES. SEE AND KNOW JOB HAZARDS AND COR RECT FIRST THINGS FIRST.
p j y t in L. Myers Q Product and Production Asbestos December 31 1981
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-5 1982 SAFETY PROGRAM
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THE 1982 SAFETY PROGRAM WILL BE WORKED WITH THE M.S.H.A. TRAINING PLAN AND OUR SAFETY MANUAL. FIRST AID AND CPR TRAINING WILL BE OFFERED TO ALL EMPLOYEES ,, SAFETY MEETINGS WILL BE GIVEN THROUGHOUT THE YEAR (MDNTHLY). QUICK 3 to 5 MINUTE SAFETY MEETINGS WILL BE HELD AT THE BEGINNING OF EACH SHIFT. SHORT SEGMENTS OF FEDERAL SAFETY RULES AND U.C.C. SAFETY RULES MAY BE COVERED DURING TOTS STARTING
' SESSION.
1982 OBJECTIVES
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1) PLANT SAFETY AND HEALTH INSPECTION TEAMS WILL MAKE MONTHLY INSPECTIONS. THE
SAFETY INSPECTION TEAM WILL CONSIST OF A SUPERVISOR, ONE OPERATIONS HOURLY EMPLOYEE, AND ONE MAINTENANCE HOURLY EMPLOYEE, PLUS ONE PERSON FROM MANAGEMENT.
2) THE PLANT SAFETY COMMITTEE WILL CONSIST OF THE PLANT MANAGER, PLANT ENGINEER,
SAFETY ENGINEER, ONE FRONT-LINE SUPERVISOR, ONE OPERATIONS HOURLY EMPLOYEE, AND ONE MAINTENANCE HOURLY EMPLOYEE.
3) THE SUPERVISOR'S SAFETY REPORT WILL BE COMPLETED BY EACH FRONT-LINE SUPERVISOR (MONTHLY).
THE SUPERVISOR'S MONTHLY REPORT WILL CONSIST OF:
A. ONE MONTHLY SAFETY MEETING. (SUBJECT, COMMENTS AND NAMES OF EMPLOYEES ATTENDING
WILL HE RECORDED) ABSENTEE'S NAME AND DATE OF THE BRIEFING WILL BE RECORDED.
THE SWING SHIFT SUPERVISOR WILL CONDUCT THE MEETING ON WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON AT 3:30 P.M. ALL SAFETY MEETINGS WILL BE SCHEDULED FOR (l) HOUR. THE MAINTENANCE, MINE AND SHIPPING/LABOR SUPERVISORS WILL CONDUCT THEIR MEETINGS SOME TIME DURING THE 3RD OR 4t h WEEK OF THE MONTH.
B. PERSONAL SAFETY CONTACT. A PERSONAL CONTACT WILL BE MADE BY EACH SUPERVISOR
WITH EACH HOURLY EMPLOYEE AT LEAST ONCE PER MONTH. THE EMPLOYEES NAME, SAFETY
CONTACT TOPIC, AND DATE WILL BE RECORDED.
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C. SUPERVISOR OBSERVATION PROGRAM (S.Q.P.) - A PLANNED OR IMPROMPTU OBSERVATION
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WILL BE MADE ON EACH HOURLY EMPLOYEE AT LEAST ONCE PER MONTH. OBSERVATION
RECORDS AND S.O.P. CARDS SHALL BE F ILLED OUT, SHOWN TO THE OBSERVED EMPLOYEE
AND FTT.TO-
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D. JOB SAFETY ANALYSIS (j.S.A.) - ONE JOB SAFETY ANALYSIS WILL BE MADE BY EACH
FRONT-LINE SUPERVISOR PER MONTH. J.S.A.'S JOB TITLES, EMPLOYEES OBSERVED, AND DATE RECORDED AND FILED.
E. SAFETY TIPPING. EACH SUPERVISOR WILL BE REQUIRED TO CONTINUE HIS OWN SAFETY
TIPPING PROGRAM. A SAFETY TIP IS A SHORT SAFETY HINT THAT YOU GIVE BECAUSE
YOU, AND YOU ALONE, HAVE THE IN-DEPTH SITUATION KNOWLEDGE NEEDED TO AVOID
HAZARDS IN YOUR AREA. EACH AND EVERY TIME YOU CONTACT A PERSON IN YOUR CREW
ASK YOURSELF THIS QUESTION: "IF THIS PERSON IS GOING TO HAVE AN ACCIDENT ON THIS JOB,. WHAT WILL IT. BE?" YOUR.KNOWLEDGE OF THIS SITUATION AND YOUR PAST EXPERIENCE WILL HELP SUPPLY THE ANSWER. GIVE THAT PERSON THE BENEFIT OF YOUR
EXPERIENCE: TELL HOW TO AVOID THAT ACCIDENT BY GIVING THAT PERSON A SAFETY
TIP.
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NOTE: SEE LAST PAGE FOR MORE INFORMATION.
*0 TWO FIRE DRILLS WILL BE CONDUCTED BY EACH PLANT CREW DURING THE YEAR. THESE DRILLS WILL BE RECORDED ON YOUR MONTHLY SAFETY REPORT.
5) OFF-THE-JOB SAFETY PROGRAMS WILL BE CONDUCTED BY FRONT-LINE SUPERVISORS. THIS PROGRAM WILL BE WORKED IN WITH THE HOUR WEEKLY SAFETY MEETING.
6 ) AT THE START OF THE SHIFT 3 to 5 MINUTE SAFETY TALKS WILL BE GIVEN BY -THE
FRONT-LINE SUPERVISOR.
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MONTHLY SAFETY THEMES FOR 1982
Monthly Themes
January
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Housekeeping (asbestos dust/
slippery floors, etc.)
February
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Respiratory Devices
March
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Health and Safety Aspects
Of Tasks Assigned
April
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Electrical Hazards
May
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Ground Control
High Wall Control and Safety
(tape)
June
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Evacuation, Fire Warning and
Fighting
Fire Drill
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July
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Prevention of Accidents
Conveyor Belts - Be Careful
August
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Escape Ways: Emergency Fire
Drill
September -
Health
October
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First Aid (Part 1 - 4 Hours)
November
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First Aid (Part 2 - 4 Hours)
December
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Hazard Recognitions
Off The Job Safetv Themes Driving Safety,New Laws (tape)
Chainsaw Safety (tape) Boating Safety
Home Safety
Bike Safety
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Outdoor Safety (tape)
Water Safety (tape)
Hunting Safety (tape)
Slips and Falls (tape) First Aid First Aid Driving Safety, Drunk Driving
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Monthly >
Themes -
Off-The-J ob-Safety Themes
1982 SAFETY CALENDAR
January
February
Housekeeping
Respiratory
Slippery Floors Devices
Asbestos Dust
March Health and Safety Aspects of Tasks Assigned
April Electrical Hazards
Driving Safety Chain Saw
New CA Laws
Safety
Boating Safety
Home Safety
Safety Inspections . . . 1 -06-82
Safety Committee Meetings 1 -13-82
Safety Steering Committee
Meetings (Quarterly) . . 1 -20-82
Supervisor's Monthly Safety Report Cue , . . 1-31-82
2-10-82 2-17-82
2-28-82
3-10-82
3-17-82
3-31-82
4-7-82 4-14-82 4-21-82 4-30-82
Monthly Themes
Of f-The-Job-Safetv Themes
July Prevention of Accidents Screw and Belt Conveyors
August Escape V/uys Emergency Fire Drills
September Health
Water Safety
Hunting Safety Slips and Falls
October First Aid (Part l) (4 Hours)
First Aid
Safety Inspections . . . 7-7-82
Safety Committee Meetings 7-14-82
Safety Steering Comnittee
Meetings (Quarterly) . . 7-21-82
Supervisor's Monthly Safety Report Due , . . 7-31-82
8-11-82 8-18-82
8-29-82
9-8-82
9-15-82
9-30-82
10-6-82 10-13-82 10-20-82
10-31-82
Ground Control High Wall Control and Safety
Bike Safety
June
Evacuation, Fire
Warning and
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Fighting
- Fire Drill -
Outdoor Safety
5-5-82
5-12-82
6-9-82 6-16-82
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5-30-82
November First Aid (Part 2) (4 Hours)
First Aid
1 1 -10-82 1 1 -17-82
6-30-82
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December Hazard Recognition
Driving Safety Drunk Driving
1 2 -8-82
12-15-32
1 1 -30-82
12-31-32
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SAFETY AWARDS SAFETY INCENTIVE PLANS WILL BE USED TO ENSURE THAT A HIGH DEGREE OF INTEREST IS MAINTAINED IN THE SAFETY PROGRAM.
1) DIVISION AWARDS 2) LOCAL - INDIVIDUAL YEARLY AWARDS 3) PRIZES FOR ATTENDING ALL FIRST AID CLASSES.
SAFETY TRAINING AND EDUCATION CERTAIN FUNDAMENTAL SAFETY TRAINING PROCEDURES ARE NECESSARY AT ALL LOCATIONS AND INCLUDE:
CALENDAR FOR SAFETY TRAINING
DATE
FEB. 1982 FEB. 1982
JUNE 1962
AUG. 1982
TOPIC
PRE-SUPERVISOR TRAINING ON SAFETY FRONT-LINE SUPERVISOR TRAINING ON SAFETY FRONT-LINE SUPERVISOR TRAINING FRONT-LINE SUPERVISOR TRAINING
INSTRUCTOR E. A. FIERSALL E. A. PIERSALL
R. J. KRONKHYTE J. L. MYERS
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SAFETY MEETINGS
HOUR SAFETY MEETINGS ARE CONDUCTED EVERY WEDNESDAY ON SWING SHIFT AT 3:30 P.M. THE SWING SHIFT SUPERVISOR CONDUCTS THE MEETING COVERING BOTH ON AND OFF THE JOB SAFETY THEMES FOR THE MONTH.
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AT THE START OF THE SHIFT 3 to 5 MINUTE SAFETY TALKS WILL BE GIVEN BY THE FRONT
LINE SUPERVISOR. THE MAINTENANCE, MINE AND SHIPPING/LABOR SUPERVISORS ALSO HOLD
REGULAR MONTHLY SAFETY MEETINGS COVERING ON AND OFF THE JOB MONTHLY THEMES.
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Practice the 5 P's for successful safety talks
Hora 18 8 M a d mnd tested technique that will help you giv bettor safety talks. It Is simple, It Is effective, It works, You will find that you can easily apply this technique not only to safety talks, but also to communication contacts o r other vital subjects such as quality, productivity. service. Job Instruction and cost improvement.
.REPARE ^ Think safety. Write things down ftor your
idea-bank. Read safety materials selfishly. Listen to others' ideas and attitudes. Organize and outline your talks. Practice.
Don't try to cover too much ground. Concentrale on one safety rule, one first aid hint, one unsafe practice, one main idea-- a communication bull's-eye.
your listeners. Bring it close to home. Make it important in their minds. Make it personal and meaningful to them.
Create dear mental pictures for your listeners. Appeal to both their ears and their eyes. Help them really "see what you mean." Use visual aids, like those suggested in this booklet.
JLRESCRIBE ^ In closing your safety talk, answer the
question the listeners always have-- "So what?" Tell them what to do. Ask for special action. Give a prescription.
By applying the 5P approach diligently, you have much greater assurance that your people will know, understand, and retain the message you have communicated. Results will show in improved safety, quality and production, and you won't b B thB oniY ono to notice the benefits; your men and your boss will. too.
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ANNUAL RETRAIN D C
(Not lees than 8 houra total)
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indatory health and ifety standards w
ransportatlon control
id communication aya- 30 min, ems.
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Mine
scapevays; emergency |3Q min, acuatlon; fire warning nd fire fighting ^ round control; working lghwallj water hazard it & spoil bank areas 30 min. llumination & n i g h t y iork
?lrat Aid
A hours
Mill Mine
Mill Mine
Mill Mine
Electrical Hazard
30 min. Mill Mine
Prevention of accidenta 1 hour Mill
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Mine
Health
30 min. Mill Mine
F/L Supervisor Coop, Instruct,
F/L Supervisor Coop. Instruct. F/L Supervisor Coop, Instruct,
F/L Supervisor Coop, Instruct.
F/L Supervisor Coop. Instruct.
F/L Supervisor Coop, Instruct.
F/L Supervisor Coop. Instruct,
Lecture Discussion
Lecture;Discu88on;Deroo85 Simulations Lecture Discussion
Lecture; Dis cussion; Demo Simulation
LecturejDiscussion, Demo Simulation
Lecture Discussion
Lecture Video Tapes Discussion
CA.OSHA Regs,*
Fed, R egister
HanualjWorking De Question mos; NSC Book & Answer
Feb.1979
of Communlcat.
Fire Extinguis Observe *
her; UCC Safety Simulations Mar,1979
Manual
Oral Raspo,
Company Manual Accident Data On-the-job Apr.1979 JSA'a Bin Entry observation
Permit, Plant
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Mannequin; First Observation
Aid manual; CPR Oral res Oct.79 handouts; MSHA ponse
No. 3 F/A
UCC Safety Man. Oral rea-
MSHA S/H #4;NSC ponsejObser May 79 Accid. Prev.Man, ve simult.
Hazard,Workpermit
Lock-out Demo Boarc
MSHA manual; #4 on-the-job
Accident Data
observat. Jun,79
Superv. Saft.Manual Frequency
JiSC Accident prev. rate
Visuali of gear
Oral response Jun,79
Respiratory Devices
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1 hou) Mill Mine
Front Line
Lecture
Supervisor
Video Tape
Coop, Instructo ' Discussion
*UCC Safety Manual
UCC T.U.V.A, Safety manual'
Demonstration
Practical Test
Oral 1
Response
Aug.79
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