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FILE NAME: Celanese (CEL) DATE: 1970-1971 DOC#: CEL010 DOCUMENT DESCRIPTION: Meeting Minutes-Manufacturing Chemists association - Air Quality Committee MANUFACTURING CHEMISTS ASSOCIATION I M I CONNECTICUT AVENUE. N. W. WASHINGTON. O. C. 3000 (202) 403-II2 January 29, 1971 TO: Air Quality Committee SUBJECT: Minutes of the Meeting of September 22-23 1970 Gentlemen: Enclosed herewith are the subject minutes. Kenneth D. Johnson Secretary Air Quality Committee KDJ/swb Enclosure cc: Board Liaison - Environment Distribution "A" HNA 27297 AQ65-1 Manufacturing Chemists Association MINUTES OF MEETING Air Quality Committee Westbury Hotel Toronto, Ontario, Canada September 22-23, 1970 MEMBERS PRESENT W. F. Bixby, Chairman E. F. Spencer, Jr., Vice Chairman M. V. Anthony C. B. Beck B. R. Edwards C. G. Kramer, M. D. R. M. Love R. L. Maycock P. W. McDaniel A. H. Phelps, Jr. A. J. Primosic L. W. Roznoy M. B. Tohline E. P. Wheeler J. H. Yeager K. D. Johnson B. F. Goodrich Chemical Co. FMC Corporation Stauffer Chemical Company Cabot Corporation Aluminum Company of Canada, Ltd. The Dow Chemical Company. Enjay Chemical Company Shell Chemical Company Union Carbide Corporation The Procter & Gamble Company Foote Mineral Company Olin Corporation Mobil Oil Corporation Monsanto Company Mallinckrodt Chemical Works MCA GUESTS PRESENT W. L. Canniff F. T. Cunniff S. M. Rumney J. P. Turner Canadian Chemical Producers' Association (Wednesday only) Calgon Corporation (Wednesday only) Stauffer Chemical Company MCA MEMBERS ABSENT J. P. Butler W. R. Chalker R. D. Hall J. H. Huguet E. W. KleppixMper F. G. Krikau Kavecki-Berylco Industries, Inc. E. I. duPont de Nemours & Co. Diamond Shamrock Chemical Co. Ethyl Corporation Cmlaa-- Corporati-- Interlake, Inc. HNA 27298 AQ65-2 W. T. Laffey W. L. Mann R. H. Mansur J. H. Morris E. G. Opdyke S. S. Paist, Jr. J. H. Rook C. R. Walbridge Jerome Wilkenfeld D. c. W inson Hercules Incorporated National Lead Company Reynolds Metals Company Merck & Company, Inc. Kay-Fries Chemicals, Inc. Rohm and Haas Company American Cyanamid Company Allied Chemical Corporation Hooker Chemical Corporation Eckert,.Seamans & Cherin Special Luncheon Guest Our scheduled guest Mr. W. B. Drowley, Director of the Air Management Branch, Ontario Department of Energy and Resources Management, was unable to be with us for the Wednesday luncheon, but his role was ably filled by his assistant Mr. Thomas W. Cross. Mr. Cross stressed the resolve of the Ontario government to provide a high level of protection to the environmental resources of the province, and to abate the pollution that, in earlier times, had been permitted to degrade the purity of its atmosphere. He discussed at some length the system of regulations designed to achieve these goals and the concept of setting stack emission standards on the basis of predicted plume concentrations at point of input of the plume with the ground. Cooperative industry-government effort was identified as an essential element of any effective program. Mr. Cross expressed optimism that Ontario could achieve its environmental goals without undue inhibition of industrial and economic growth. I. COMMITTEE MEETING 1.0 Opening Remarks - Chairman Mr. Bixby opened the first meeting of the Committee under its new officers and organizational structure with a welcome to the members and guests, and a description of the program and schedules for the session. Mr. A. J. Primosic, Vice President for Operations and Planning of the Foote Mineral Company, was welcomed as the new member of the Committee for liaison with he Reactive Metals Subcoesnittee. HNA 27299 AQ65-3 .2.0 Minutes of the Meeting of April 15-16. 1970 Mr. Stanley Paist had called to the attention of the Secretary the amission from the subject minutes of the Committee action to request that MCA retain Dr. W. L. Faith to prepare a report on the justification, or lack thereof, for regulatory control of photoreactive solvents from fixed sources. With the addition of this item, the minutes were otherwise approved as distributed. 3.0 MCA Board Liaison - Secretary The Secretary reported that the current interest of Mr. Doan was in the possible creation of a jointly managed and funded national center for the testing of the long term health effects of chemicals. The proposed center would be operated by a board on which industry, government and the universities would each be represented, and be funded by industry and government. Its principal role would be the development of consensus on protocols for the demonstration of an acceptable level of safety (as opposed to a proof of absence of risk) to be required of products that may be discharged into the environment. It would also be prepared to do a certain amount of product testing on a fee basis. The Secretary was asked to distribute the proposal, as presented at the Beard Liaison Committee meeting, to the full Committee. The Committee was also reminded of the environmental protection panel scheduled at the MCA semiannual meeting in November, and the membership of Dr. Carroll Wilson of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology in that panel. The report on critical environmental problems, "Man's Impact on the Global Environment" issued by the MIT symposium, will be the basis of Dr. Wilson's principal cements. 4.0 Report from the Joint Subcommittee on Air and Water Pollution Legislation and Regulations The Secretary reported that the efforts of the Sub committee were currently focused on the preparation of an Association position on the new bill reported out by Senator Muskie's Subcommittee on Air and Water Pollution. The letter sent to Senator Randolph, Chairman of the Senate Public Works Committee, was summarized, and suggestions solicited from the Air Quality Committee on ways in which we could further the Association position or achieve acceptable compromises on points at issue. HIMA 27300 AQ65-4 The Secretary surmised that the Muskie bill, when reported out of the full committee, would pass the Senate without significant change on the floor of that chamber, and that MCA's final and most significant opportunity to achieve meaningful changes in the legislation would be when the House and Senate bills are referred to a Conference Committee. As the time available for submission of comments to this body may be very brief, members were asked to keep in close touch with developments and to forward their suggestions and comments to MCA as expeditiously as possible. The Committee expressed concern that, with the current operation of the Joint Subcommittee, the parent Committee is being deprived of direct participation by its member attorneys. The Chairman appointed an ad hoc subcommittee to study this problem, and to bring back its recommendations on the second day of the present session. Named to the subcommitee were: M. V. Anthony, Chairman K. D. Johnson A. H. Phelps E. F. Spencer E. P. Wheeler 5.0 Report from the Steering Committees for the MCA-NAPCA Cooperative Studies of Atmospheric Emissions E. F. Spencer 5.1 EmiwwJnns from Selected Chemical Manufacturing The Steering Committee met June 23, 1970 in Durham, North Carolina. The following topics were discussed: Sulfuric Acid The question of whether to reprint the 1965 edition without revision, or to attempt to update the statistical and control technique sections was discussed at length. It was agreed that the recent NAPCA publication of the Chemico report, and the lack of industrial operating experience in the United States with control technology more advanced than that described in the 1965 edition both mitigated against present revision. It was voted to recommend the reprinting of the report without amendment, and to consider the question of a full restudy of the industry in another year. HNA 27301 AQ65-5 Chior-Alkall Mr. Cuffe informed the Committee that the subject report should be published in August. Phosphate Fertilizers The fluoride sampling and analytical problems seem to have been resolved. Of the 42 processes to be sampled, 33 have been sampled to date. Mr. Cuffe expressed a NAPCA determination to complete or terminate the sampling program this fall. MCA is still without a principal investigator. Any volunteers? Dr. Johnson was requested to determine the extent to which MCA's Information Department could acquire and organize statistical data for the sections of the report assigned to MCA for prepara tion of the first draft. The Steering Committee plans for another meeting sometime after October 1. 5.2 Emissions from the Reactive Metals Industry Four meetings have been held to date, May 5, May 22, July 28 and August 28. MCA representatives are E. F. Spencer, R. R. Banks of Air Reduction Company, 0. D. Jordan of Ohio FerroAlloys, and R. A. Person of Union Carbide. The Chairman is G. Ozolins of NAPCA. The study team is Art Killin (ex-Union Carbide) for MCA, and Carl Spangler for NAPCA. The program is moving rapidly and the questionnaire is ready for initial plant distribution. Field sampling plant selection and sampling protocol have been completed. NAPCA will contract the sampling program, hopefully by October 1, and start field sampling by November 1. Sample copies of the questionnaires were distributed to the Committee. 6.0 Report of Status on Regulations Workbook No progress in getting the workbook ready for publish ing was reported to the Committee. 7.0 Report on Activities to Implement PL 90-146 The Secretary reported that he expected all pending reports to be completed in the next few months. The draft of Mr. Coons report that had been distributed to the liaison HIMA 27302 AQ65-6 members of the Committee was discussed. There was general consensus that the reorganization of the text had generally been helpful, but that further editorial effort was indicated. 8 .0 ASTM Committee D-22 Proposal The request of ASTM for MCA support of the Committee D-22 project for the validation of standard methods for atmospheric analysis by collaborative testing was discussed at length. There was a clear consensus that the industry's major problems at present and in the immediate future were in the area of stack monitoring and emissions inventory analyses, not ambient air sampling. Whereas the Committee did not oppose the ASTM project, and recog nized that public relations or "social responsibility" considera tions might be an adequate justification of favorable MCA Board action on the ASTM request, if felt that it could not recommend such action on the basis of matters within its area of responsi bility. On motion duly made, seconded and carried, the Committee adopted the following resolution, and asked that it be forwarded promptly to the Board. It futher asked that ASTM be notified of definitive Board action as soon as such action had been taken. WHEREAS the American Society for Testing and Materials Committee D-22 on Methods of Atmospheric Sampling and Analysis has proposed a program to validate methods of sampling and analysis of air pollutants, primarily as these are found in the ambient air, and has estimated the cost of this program at $2 ,0 0 0 ,0 0 0 over a two-year period, and WHEREAS the Manufacturing Chemists Association has been asked to support this program to the extent of $125,000 in each of the next two years, and WHEREAS adequate funds are not available for such purpose by transfer from present Committee-sponsored projects, nor would the Committee recommend such action; and WHEREAS should the Board deem it appropriate to increase its support of environmental protection activities, the Committee would place a higher priority upon alternative programs, including, among others, one for the development and validation ef methods for the identification and quanti tation of contaminants in industrial emissions, HOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED that the Manufacturing Chemists Association Board of Directors be advised that it is the sense of the Air Quality Committee that MCA support of the subject ASTM project is not justified on the basis of technical considerations within the purview of this Committee. HNA 27303 . AQ65-: c. 9-0 Asbestos as an Air Contaminant - * iti, ,,frt , i . . . . g. Kramer, M.d . Dr*~ Kramer presented an excellent resume of the ' historical, clinical and toxicological aspects of pulmonary diseases from exposure to asbestos dusts. The text of his paper was distributed to the Committee. The Committee expressed its great appreciation for Dr. Kramer's presentation and requested that, if possible, he prepare a similar paper on heavy metals for the Houston meeting. 10.0 Committee Assignments Before the Committee recessed for the holding of subcommittee meetings, the Chairman distributed the following assignments of subcommittee memberships. Subcommittee chairmen were asked to report back to the second plenary session of the Committee with written reports, including attendance and recommendations made by the subcommittee. 10.1 Standing Subcommittees 10.1.1 Steering Committee of the Air Quality Committee W. F. Bixby, Chairman E. F. Spencer, Vice Chairman J. P. Butler, Chairman of Information and Publications Subcommittee W. L. Mann, Chairman of Standards and Regulations Subcommittee A. H. Phelps, Chairman of Edu j and Training Subconmittee M. B. Tohline, Chairman of Technology and Engineering Subcommittee M. V. Anthony, past chairman J. H. Huguet, at-large Jerome Wilkenfeld, at-large K. D. Johnson, Secretary 10*1 ^ 2 SducatiMk aatr twmtntmf WBeodfaittee Purpose: To foster education and training in the field of air resources management, and to further the exchange of information pertinent thereto through: (1) an expanded program of workshops, including coverage of air pollution control associated with use of the chemical industry's products. Emphasis is on sharing technical knowledge and expertise on air pollution control with chemical industry personnel, governmental agencies, educators, and on identifying publicly the chemical industry with progress in this field, HNA 27304 AQ65-8 (2 ) the sponsorship of technical seminars and short courses, (3) the development of material suitable for distribution to schools and public interest groups, (4 ) the evaluation of the medical aspects of air pollution as related to the environments of chemical manufacturing. Membership: i A. H. J . H. C. B. B. R. J. H. W. T. R. M. R. L. J. H. E. G. M. B. Phelps, Yeager Beck Edwards Huguet Laffey Love Maycock Morris Opdyke Tohline Chairman RjD. 10.1.3 Information and Publication Subcommittee Purpose: To encourage and assist in the assembly of material related to air quality and air pollution control which is of interest to MCA member companies, individuals responsible for air pollution control and the general public, through: (1 ) the preparation and editorial review of articles for publication, (2 ) encouraging the development of articles germane to air pollution, (3) the editing and review of Safety Data Sheets, (4) drafting or reviewing items such as "Statement of Principles on Air Quality and Air Pollution Control". Membership: J. P. Butler, Chairman W. T. Laffey Oiifm/rnr, M .I>* R. H. Mansur P. W. McDaniel S. S. Paist A. H. Phelps J. H. Rook D. C. Winson J. H. Yeager E. P. Wheeler ICY.I'. Eternised and Abate-- set Psoggumm Bab ssasaitbee Purpose: 1) To keep the chemical industry informed of aignifirfiaat developm en ts in mi*-pollution ssfslatelsas sdeSete mi - L e e a L levels. 2) To examine critically, available technical data forming the bas is HNA 27305 AQ65-9 abatement, including emission restrictions and to make recommenda tions concerning chemical industry action relative to the adoption of such standards and regulations by regulatory agencies. Membership: W. L. Mann, Chairman J. P. Butler W . R. Chalker Zm X. KJLeppinger P. W. McDaniel R. H. Mansur S. S. Paist A. J. Primosic J. H. Rook L. W. Roznoy C. R. Walbridge E. P. Wheeler Jerome Wilkenfeld D. C. Winson l.L.5 Technology and- Engineering, jgn&Msseittae Purpose: To keep the chemical industry informet^ of new doveIcpmeefco- in tsshsslsgn uni1 irTTgjUifilUiiiMiirsi1V ~ ing to air pollution cowtroP, and more specifically to: (1) develop technical guidance for the chemical industry in the disposal of ite w * . < iiiwm ...... . i .-edg pplj^tion Q^oblens and to coordinate such efforts with those of the Water Resources Committee and the Solid Wastes Management Conxnittee, (2) encourage and stimulate the generation of technical and engineering articles related to pollution control and abatement, and the mMMaSoaaaae the nlintspans i t h e effects of ioiwUstisa' by ^(a) administering on-going program, (b) selecting proposed research projects, (c) soliciting and evaluating research proposals for performance of selected projects, and (d) preparing for presentation to MCA Board, research proposals for projects that have been recommended by the Committee, (4) evaluate new proposals and methods, s i f l W s f y M M l m S m p and. enhaacg. air originating in the technical literature, in implementation documents of control authorities, inquiries to MCA, etc. Membership: M. B. Tohline, Chairman C . B . Beck W. R. Chalker B. R. Edwards J. H. Huguet M *- KJeppinge^ ; HNA 27306 AQ65-10 F. G. Krikau R. M. Love W. L. Mann R. L. Maycock J. H. Morris E. G. Opdyke A. J. Primosic L. W. Roznoy C. R. Walbridge Jerome Wilkenfeld 10.1.6 Steering Coosnittee for the MCA-NAPCA Cooperative Study on Atmospheric Emissions from Selected Chemical Processes E. F. Spencer, Principal Representative L. M. Roznoy C. R. Walbridge E. P. Wheeler 10.1.7 Steering Consnittee for the MCA-NAPCA Cooperative Study on Atmospheric Emissions from the Reactive Metals Industry E. F. Spencer, Principal Representative R. R. Banks 0. D. Jordan R. A. Person A. J. Primosic (alternate) 10.1.8 Reactive Metals Subcommittee R. R. Banks, Chairman George Fegan 0. D. Jordan F. G. Krikau R. A. Person M. B. Powers A. J. Primosic R. H. Walsh .10.2 Other Assignments & 10.2.1 Ad Hoc Subcommittee on Objectives and Goals M. V. Anthony, Chairman J. H. Huguet Jerome Wilkenfeld E. P. Wheeler HNA 27307 AQ65-11 10.2.2 Ad Hoc Subcommittee on Meeting Sites L. W. Roznoy B. B. Edwards R. M. Love 10.2.3 Liaison Coordinator - M. V. Anthony 10.2.4 Liaison Members on Joint Subcommittee on Air and Water Pollution Legislation and Regulations M. V. Anthony M. B. Tohline (note: J. P. Butler and D. C. Winson will be attorneys with membership on both the Air Quality Committee and the subject subcommittee.) 11.0 MCA Pollution Survey The Chairman asked the Information and Publications Subcommittee to consider the scope and content of the 1971 MCA Pollution Survey Questionnaire. II. SUBCOMMITTEE REPORTS 1.0 Report of Standing Subcommittees 1.1 Education and Training Subcommittee - A. H. Phelps The following report was submitted by the chairman: Present: A. H. Phelps, Chairman M. V. Anthony C. B. Beck W. F. Bixby (ex officio) B. R. Edwards C. 0. Kramer, M.D. R. M. Love R. L. Maycock E. P. Spencer (ex officio) M. B. Tohline J. P. Turner, MCA Staff S. M. Rumney, Guest The following recommendations are made by thsubcommittee. HNA 27308 AQ65-12 1 . 'Publish the jlpgulatione Workbook with contents as defined by the subcommittee chairman, and distribute to the Air Quality Committee only at this time. 2. Continue to attempt to develop air pollution training course but if sub stantial progress is not made by the spring of 1971, proceed independently. 3. The Conanittee is asked to follow closely the development of federal programs for noise control. Their attention is called to the Congressional Record for October 29, 1969 (pp E-9031 to E-9112) in which there is a very complete compilation of present regulatory control of noise. Mr. Phelps will distribute to the Committee, for information only, copies of a paper on ambient noise analysis. 4. The subcommittee strongly endorsed the MCA public relations departments plans for a series of seminars with the various state branches of the League of Women Voters. 5. The subcommittee recommended that the workshop series on pollution control equipment be extended, and asked that J. H. Huguet organize and chair a session on visteesMikkiaaBiac. p mt ri m . 6 . The subcommittee recommended that pollution control seminars organized on the basis of specific processes (such as the phosphoric and sulfuric acid seminars previously held) be developed for other chemical processes of wide interest. 7. The subcommittee asked that the experience of the Northern California CIC with a seminar to train speakers for high schools be reviewed, with interest in potential Air Quality Committee activity in this area. 8 . The subcommittee proposed that it develop a "speakers manual" on air pollution control topics of general interest, for the guidance of chemical industry speakers before lay groups. 9. MCA support of the ASERAZ odor symposium in 1971 was recommended: MCA Staff was asked to explore ways in which the Association could offer effective help. 10. A more detailed listing of the Air Quality Cconittee Speakers Panel, showing for each the topics and geographic areas in which the speaker had an interest was suggested. HNA 27309 AQ65-13 11. The subcommittee asked the full committee to consider the feasibility of reviewing "paperback" publications in the environ mental field and the preparation of critiques on each signifi cant book. % The chairman moved the adoption of the report. After a discussion, in which the Committee expressed its opposition to making item (11) a budget item for the 1971-72 budget, the motion was carried. 1.2 Information and Publication Subcommittee In the absence of the Chairman, Mr. Phelps presided at the meeting and submitted the following report. Present: A. H. Phelps, Acting Chairman W. P. Bixby (ex officio) C. G. Kramer, M.D. P. W. McDaniel E. P. Wheeler E. F. Spencer (ex officio) J. P. Turner, MCA Staff Recommendations made by the subcommittee were: 1. An expansion of the Currents mailing list, to increase coverage of doctors and dentists' offices and of high school and university libraries in the major metropolitan areas. The MCA Board was requested to increase funding of Currents by $17,000/year for this purpose. 2. More active participation in the environmental protection aspects of the chemical safety data sheets preparations, with each member of the Air Quality Coesnittee volunteering the products on the list in which his company has an interest and expertise. 3. Coesnittee technical support in the preparation of the "environmental message" tapes being prepared by the PR depart ment for spot use in radio programming. 4. That the recommendations made by the Subcommittee in April, re the MCA Pollution Survey Questionnaire, be endorsed without change. 5. That the chairman write to members of the Committee inquiring as to numbers and sources of emissions inventory questionnaires that have been received by their companies, with a view to pro viding some quidelines that will assist a company in determining which surveys HNA 27310 AQ65-14 a. must be replied to under legal sanctions. b. should be returned on grounds of social responsibilities. c. should be returned on grounds of public relations aspects. d. have doubtful justifications for reply. 6 . That the next revision of the MCA-NAPCA report on sulfuric acid manufacturing processes be revised to stress the dependence of SO3 - H2SO4 mist data upon sampling techniques, and the need to have regulatory standards consistent with the analytical technique specified. Mr. Walbridge was asked to prepare a position paper on this subject, and Mr. Turner to cover the matter in a Pilot article. On motion of Mr. Phelps the report was seconded and adopted by the Committee. 1.3 Standards and Abatement Programs Subcommittee Mr. P. W. McDaniel served as temporary chairman in the absence of Mr. Mann, and submitted the following report: Attendance: 7 1 . Thesubcommittee discussed the proposed hydrocarbons emissions projects discussed at the April meeting and concurred with MCA staff recommendations that this not now be pursued, as the subject has been covered adequately in other publications. 2. The NAPCA Oxides of Nitrogen Criteria draft was reviewed, together with comments submitted by MCA affiliated reviewers directly to KAPCA. It was agreed that no further action was necessary at this time. The adoption of the report was moved, seconded and carried. 1.4 Technology and Engineering Subcommittee - M. B. Tohline The following, report was submitted by the chairman. Present: M. B. Tohline, Chairman M. V. Anthony C. B. Beck W . p. Bixby (ex officio) B. R. Edwards R. M. Love R. L. Haycock A. J. Primosic L. w. Roznoy E. F. Spencer (ex officio) K. D. Johnson, MCA Staff S. M. Rumney, Guest HNA 27311 AQ65-15 ' The Subcommittee discussed the following subjects: (1) Sulfuric acid mist determination technique. (2) MCA-NAPCA A. D. Little odor nuisance research project. (3) R. L. Maycock position paper on stack monitoring and ambient air surveying. (4) Coons position paper on equivalent opacity. (5) Checklist of potential air pollution hazards of chemical products. (6 ) Joint Industry-Government-University organization for testing long tern health effects on humans. (7) Future recommendations to MCA Board of Directors and Air Quality Conmittee concerning technological research, specifically a literature search on the effects of trace amounts of heavy metals or Muskie Bill Section 114 compounds-. The following recommendations were made: (1) Items (1) through (5) are recommended to be the subject of short articles for Pilot. (2) Cliff Walbridge will be aBked by Chairman Tohline about preparing Pilot article based on October sulfuric acid plant MCA workshop (Chicago). (3) Dr. Johnson is requested to contact NAPCA concerning its provision of suitable equipment on loan to continue study under Joint MCA-NAPCA odor research program (Item (2)). Recommend $40,000 be included in 1971-72 budget to continue this project. (4) Dr. Maycock to send copies of his position paper draft to subcommittee members for comments and suggestions prior to submission to Air Quality Committee . (5) Dr. Johnson will coordinate completion of Coons Equivalent Opacity paper and issue (Item (4)). (6 ) Chairman will arrange to have New Product Pollution Potential Hazards Checklist completed and submitted to Air Quality Committee for approval (Item (5)). (7) Committee recommended C. G. Kramer, B. P. Wheeler, J. H. Rook, and P. W. McDaniel to serve with their senior executives as ad hoc coamittee to consider Joint Industry-University-Government National Facilities for Testing Long Term Health Effects on Humans. (8 ) Subcommittee recommends that $20,000 be included in 1971-72 budget request to cover a literature search on health effects of airborne heavy-metals. Mr. Spencer was asked to report on progress on the odor research at A. D. Little and submitted the following report. HNA 27312 AQ65-16 September 16, 1970 MCA-NAPCA Odor Study at A. D. Little A meeting was held at Arthur D. Little July 23 with representatives of KAPCA and A. D. Little, and Dr. Johnson and myself. The main disucssion concerned ways and means of obtaining surplus Federal instrumentation rather than spending MCA and/or NAPCA funds. Jerry Roraanovsky of NAPCA was most helpful and knowledgeable in this area. As of September 16, a chair with suitable sensors in the arms.had been located, but efforts to procure a polygraph have been futile. The whole program is at a standstill. On Friday, September 18, Messrs. Kendall and Leonardos and Dr. Jacobs will review the situation and call Dr. Johnson and me September 27. Hopefully, a meeting can be set up quickly with NAPCA, MCA, and ADL to resolve the impasse or select an alternate approach to get the show on the road. s/Emmet F. Spencer, Jr. Emmet F. Spencer, Jr. The chairman concluded his report with a plea to the full committee for suggestions and guidance for future sub committee programs, and moved the adoption of the report. His motion was duly seconded and adopted by the Committee. The Secretary agreed to distribute copies of Dr. Maycock's paper to members of the Committee who did not get one at the meeting. 2.0 Report of Special Subcommittees 2.1 Report of Meetings Subcommittee The ad hoc subcoeatittee for the selection of a September 1971 meeting site recoomended either St. Louis or Chicago. The Committee selected Chicago and the Chairman asked Mr. Yeager to make preliminary arrangements for meeting facilities and selection of a guest speaker. 2.2 Report of Ad Hoc Subcommittee on Attorney* ' Participation Dr. Anthony submitted the following report, which was adopted by the Coenittee. HIMA 27313 AQ65-17 Your committee concluded that through the years the attorney members have contributed materially to the success of the Air Quality Committee. Further that the need for legal guidance continues in such matters as: 1) Legislation at the state and local levels where much activity exits in adoption of new laws and revisions to old laws. 2) There is a continuing need for legal guidance in operating problems; for example establishing policy with regard to questionnaires from regulatory agencies. Therefore we make the following resolution "that wgjdHwy y la* senship h st i n sn s t t i m rj s Tmeirl si g s i hl ' ilmnhi 1 PfrlViliam seLtirs th&'Rtr C-- Ifcfaeei There is a strong feeling that legislation reporting should be revitalized as a direct responsibility of the Air Quality Committee inde pendent of any efforts along that line of the Joint Subcommittee on Air and Water Pollution Legislation and Regulations." 2.3 Report of the Reactive Metals Subcommittee Dr. Robert Banks of Airco Alloys has been elected Chairman of the subcommittee and we have added a new member to the group. Mr. Grover of Woodward Iron Company. Mr. Sourcer's of Tennessee Metallurgical, membership is pending. The subcommittee has been active in following legisla tive developments, new regulations and enforcement actions of concern to the industry. The major thrust has been toward the joint NAPCA study which is now active. Final review of the Plant Survey Questionnaire has been completed as well as the sampling protocol. 3.0 Report of Public Relations Department - J . P. Turner Mr. Turner summarized the results of their survey of change in reader attitudes toward the chemical industry followin their receipt of Currents. This indicated that before they received that publication, five out of seven had unfavorable impressions of the industry's conmitment to environmental pro tection, whereas after they had been reading Currents, only one in eleven retained this viewpoint. He asked that Cossnittee members take a greater interest in making case history material available to Pilot and Currents, and in writing articles for use in these journals. HNA 27314 AQ65-18 4.0 Old Business 4.1 Budget Itetna The special project budgets, based on present Committee recommendations, are a. for A. D. Little Odor Research - $40,000 b. for Heavy Metals Health Effects Study - $20,000 c. for expansion of Currents Mailing List - $17,000 4.2 Liaison Assignments The Chairman asked that, pending further adjust ments, presently designated contacts for technical and profes sional society liaison, and for state reporting, continue with these assignments. 5.0 New Business 5.1 Effects on Health of Heavy Metals Mr. Canniff of the Canadian Chemical Producers' Association, reported that "The National Research Council of Canada (NRC) have set up a new committee with separate secre tariate to determine the effects on the environment of contaminants. Their first attack on this project is to do as complete as possible a literature survey of all world litera ture sources, of data in these areas. Where data is not con clusive, the NRC will set up to measure the effects. All of the data is to be published. It may be poaaibl.9, that since heavy metal contamination has been given strong emphasis in Canada, .that this may be an early item on their program." He offered to explore with the NRC of Canada the prospects of developing their data on heavy metals in time to be of use in the proposed MCA project. 5.2 AAAS Article of Economic Impact of Health Effects of Air Pollution The Secretary called to the Coenittee's atten tion the article "Air Pollution and Human Health" by Lester B. Love and Eugene P. Seskin, in Science, Vol. 169, pages 723738 (August 21, 1970). If the implications of this article are supportable, then cost-benefit analysis would appear to loose any general validity as a defense against extremely rigid amission restriction regulations. It was suggested that MCA explore with other major trade associations the soundness of the assumptions made therein, with a view to either chal lenging errors or of adjusting our position to accoenodate -"-hors views. 27375 I 7 Preliminary indications are that no existing set of regulations currently in use in the country will achieve the ambient air standards adopted for the Cincinnati Air Quality Control Region this January. There has been seme talk (rumor) of emission standards on combustion like .05 gr/ft3 and of sulfur in fuel limits like less than .3%. Wyoming - E. F. Spencer Although the state adopted tight regulations last December, enforcement has been spotty because of limited manpower and money (2 man staff). HNA 27316 *e mat to the job tiU. Bo-acooeplished hi* job aad at f tho od of th shift ho renewed all thM garments and laft thoa in tho change room ia a clean rooa atmosphere ( showered, picked op hie garments aad mat oa ho-- , aad baa ha cam'back all the garments that ha wore the day before vara laundered and pot iato the raoaptieal for use the followia? day. O.K. Z vaat to be sore of that, because Z think that it personally as far as Z'a concerned a step ahead. Yoo had one question, Doctor, Z mold like to eoamant on that yoo weren't qoite sore aboot the soorce of asbestos that that banker had. One of mg colleagues soggested that he sight ham beea moonlighting and that acy be yoor source of answer and Z would also like to ooamnt on the fatiar-soa baa aad to lay aside a learned colleague aboot the daughter. Z had two daughters, they didn't get ia the bosiaess hot they serried two yooag aen that did get iato the business. So it's all ia the family. 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Do you raquira any typa of raspiratory or protactivs clothing protactioo for installation of noo-asbastos aatarial? A. Yea, tbs snswsr is yss. Ms ara not absolutaly curtain that tbs aainly cal cion silioata typa of aatarial ws ara now using is going to ba safe in tha long tarn. Therefore, ws prorida a dust respirator and ususally a brina nylon overall for work using those aatarials and tha respirator is optional, .if the dust concentration is lass than S ailligraas par ofeio aster. But you try to asks it obligatory when it is aboat fits aUliastazs par ovfeic aster and this asans that it is obligatory during all rip-out procedures. thank you. Ms are now iaposing on tbs next sets of speakers.Mould you gins us a good hand of applause. 100M99.D HNA 27375