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A ao*tln( of tho abort of tho Pad lood Toehnlool COBolttoo m hold 1b tho offloo* of IB# lood laduotrlo* A**ooUtloa on D*ooobor T, IMS. frot oroi
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Th* o*tlB( # oollod to ordtr ot tilt AJU with Or. Corrlok la tBo olalr.
AncsHiaac mfogum pbo o aam
Too otaoophorle *xpour* pro jroa mo brought up for d 11CJ* *10G , Ur,
Coott p-flntrd out thot ho hod tubeittod bo (urccittCM for prorroa ot ho did Bot know wht tho ob.ootlro mt oad thought tlmt tho obJootlT# would bo 4otoraiaod*
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It m* folt thot tho otjoetlTo it to Boot tho ooapotltloa of tlao ohroaoto aad other a*tol prla*r* by ohewln( thot rod lood la point dooo o bottor Job, toklt| both oo*t tad quality lato ocatldoratloa*
la nay otaoophorlt ozpoturo to*t, tho CaoBlttoo folt thot raj-lout (ndM of red lood thojld bo tot tod , A 1 lit of polatt which ohould bo tokon ot ttoadord
la taking otooiphurit oxpoouro toot* rat di*ou**od, 4 tho followlaf mt *(Tod upoei
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la tho oboro potato, thro# (ndx of rod lood wore to bo tootod i
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Th* throo (rod** of rod lood *111 olo bo aodo lato potat ul( olkyd olutloa o<afonlfc( with 0*1# lUrltla* Cooaixtce (poolftoottan 61*M-ll. It oo* *(red that la th* n*i of Kf (rod* rod lo4 It would probably bo aoo**or7 to *1* tho point laa*dl.'.t*ly prter to oppllootlaa, Moworor, tho aomltloo felt thot
to*tla( th* thr** (rod** of rod l*od fuadoaoatol laforaotlea would bo prorldod*
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Th* lateit report r the voiding tti at th* lettell* Manorial Wtlhite
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It Muiudid that tti w.-k oe for **--ad to lbdl--ho ttat aa the oon eentratloR of rod load gee* up. It r--ebet point wbare the voiding 1* ubfarorvip nffoeted*
2b guallfleetlem of thl* icMluite*, It ve* reeoptixed thot Utn -- aero rod land lx oca* of the thick film* with loo rod load e--tont whloh vere wUi* footorjr for voiding than la earn* of the this film* of o high rod load oootact vblah vere not Oatlafaetcry. It on* folt thot tbo admixture of other plpteot* mi^ht ooootBt for thl**
It thla polmt Hr* Veldrloh Joined tbo meeting* Bo ce----tad apom hie re port* and ahoved radiograph* of oomo of the roe--t hood Obd fillet veld* thot hod ho-- mode ilboo tbo meeting ot Col--bua* Ob tbo hoolo of tbo arork d--o oo for with film thlcknaea** of 1 to S mil** Mr* Toldrleh rated for poroaitp tbo joint* tea ted lm the folloaring order, vb-- it* lag o 8/>Z* eleatrodel
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Be pointed eet that there am* bet ami differ#--# Wtnaa the heat bad tbo poerert of thoio aad la hi* oplnloe* all ef th-- war* aee&ptahla.
Uth the l/ld' eleotrod** ho rated th-- la the fplloviag order*
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Xa hi* opinion, m-- --aapt about the firat tbrea aero ooeoptablOa
hating the earn* verb oa ease ot veld lag* tbo/ wore a* fallen*|
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he imdt-- tad thot la hi* opinion * th* lend Wring palate harp greater affaot -- tbo voider*' epuretl--* of voldUg th-- tla* *hr--eto#
Be atmted that ho oxpeotad tbo oeeplote tarl-- ef fillet void* to b# a-- pVotod about Poo--l>*r H and inquired nbathar otrength teata *h--14 Vo --do*
Th* Coaaelttee felt thot polat* Ui-111 and LlA-111 ahould ho glr-- flUet veld teat*a
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It me pointed out that pl|nt* apparontly hare ao iffMt oo the lltfi ImI oalrlaf It oer* fluid* Tarlou* ocnbloat ice* of plpooeto w; aoooust for dlfforacoot 1* the i U{i
A* work oo for hod ohcaq* thot it oade Little dlffereoee whether tho platef
wore piektod, frit, or eaad tluttd, it mo felt nooeeoory tc mo only plotted
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Tho Cooaittoo Aooldod ttiot futuro wrt ohoold bo oo fellewei
1* Tertloel fillot wolds ohould bo oodo with 9*40*10 oloetrodoo, at lag both &/;Z* end J/lt" olootrodoo o b (dotted pi*too oely, with AC oad DC Ourrmt ao paint fllas t all* thick* oo tho follooiaf palate*
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t lot* 11* oad ductility toot* ohould bo oodo oo tho fortfolnf palate, oo 3 w*U ao TT-P-W, *9-P-14, 14 AC, M-oC-10*
Cb tho tooollo tooto, tho old** of tho fro*t o only would b* pals tod ao l* ouctaanry la thl* typo of toot* tarorv, addltloaal point ohoold bo eppliad to* team wold* oo tho followlag*
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hlit thickset*** oa tho froor* old** ohoold approxlatte 9 alio oad ooo ooat of point ohould bo applied boteaco **ldo
9. Tortloal fillot wold tcoto ohould b* aodo uolaf ooo ill* oleotrodo coly oo a oorloo of dry plfoooto approximately 9 alio thick* tho plptaot* thoo do bo tooted ar*i
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Tto *ffMt <m U{ nl poroalty af all tti* faragolag (heU to
to It might not to foitlU* to held * dry plpkaat am to U, Ur* Voldrioh uM
for aocgaatlooa for a wahiala that might to utad la Mall amoumta aa a hladar*
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Similar toata should alaa to aonduatad am t aaata af mpljaaatii rshislsa
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It aaa raquostsd that all to work prior to tto slagls pl^amt taata to i plated before tto aaxt %**tlag ao that a raport am It aaa to aameldered at that
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Mr* tormaar than raaS Mr. ttamrt'l letter ta him af toraator il, IMS, Alik had tot traaamittad ta Mr* Veldrieh, aad ahiak la attaahad aa bhlktt *A*
to* Yeldrleh expla lead that tha ewt ta data had haam aomtore aaar 116,000* tot aaa eetually around |10,000, although tha Association had paid out $lt,600* tha aait to tha Aaooalatloa 1a what haa aatvmlly haam apaat aad If all tha moaay r paid by tto Aaaoaiatlom ta lattalla huesrial Imatltwta la mat expended, tto ilffir* ^a will to rafundad*
1ii r.* Camel Use raltaratad ita feel lag that tto aatlra protest sheuld to toft
aamfidaatial amtll ttora ara result# from Alik aamalwaiama aeeld to drama*
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Xt alaa daaldad that further mark by tto laduatrlal lygteae Feuadettem to told up until tto frtgrea autllmad at tkli moating la eaa^leted at lattalla MmaorUl Xaatltutaa
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It woa !*((* tad that th* Coot!tt** ageLn waat 1b Bo * ferk, probably durt^the wld41* weak of iIil a t /, lfr<<, the xct data to b* daaldad upco whan Ur. Teldrlch adwlcat Jut whan tba work *111 b* aoaplatad. in attMft would b* aad* to axt oc January Id or 16, a) Mr ftoatt wild bora to ha la 3m fork oa Jaa. 17 anyway.
Hr. Teldrlsh *u sdrlead tdwt la ard.r to apyad ay tba work, ha aould ahortoa th* drying tla* ta On day*.
Mr. Yoldrlah tlwa laft tka aaatlaf,
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Mr. K Haiti of tba Matlmal Laud temposjr* a kaaaarah Laboratory, octalod th* aatlax la eeoaaetloe with a dlaouaaloo oa Selwrtlfie daatloa Circular 710. Ha aald that ha would lira to hara mar* tla* to b*lp prepare a papar for th* Salastlfle Saatlce oa rad laad aaaad oa th* Ccaaaitt**'* work whlob Mr* Shob* had alroady axeallactly anaarlitd,
Mr. 0*t fait that th* baat proaadvtr* would b* to aak* a abort, dignified atotasect is anrwwr to Circular Mo* 710 aad har* It publlahad through tbo fa1st Aoaoalatlaa. Ha fait that Mr* Ehoba'a papar abeuld ta publlahad by tho 1 aad ladaatrla* Aaaodstlca aad that th* paint ladurtry would aat publlah It*
Mr. Shob* fait, hoar*war, that Circular 710 par* tha rad laad aooufaeturar* a
(oldan opoortualty to haw* a good paper os th* work of th* Uciitt** pdllrM, a* h* bellowed th* Cocalttoa's work doaarrad ta b* placed bafor* palat femulator* owtrywfcor*. ha did aot faal that Clruiar T10 Mould aaaaaaarlly b* amtlcaod dlroctly In tha papar. but aaraly hr *.r:ng inference and Hr. Dl?Mrr-.n felt tlrt thla aould b* haadlud by r:erring ta Clreul-r HO la a footaaU, jut aa other popart would probably bo rofarrad to la footaotao*
Mr. horaaar road a latter fraa Mr* Bright T, Jay**, ihlah la attached a* txhlblt *
It wo* agreed tba that Mr* lattl ahould g* ahead aad prepare a paper far the Latest Ifla Saatlaa baaod oa Mr* Sheba's paper*
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Th* Cocaltto* thaa returned ta a diaeueetea af th* augg.atad ataotpharla azpoiur* ta*ta aad a{r*M upea tba following addltlaaal ataadard palatal
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T-18CB Corpo of laglaaora (U Southern Ballaap A jroup of tMurtUllj HrlitM prprl*tM]r mW proVoctira pa la to will alto bo taoludad.
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tiu tlmat* pl(MBUtieu ia4 nhlclN to U UiM M kM> 11M apes at a prvrieuo at*tli( Mt vara laalodod la U* 1ini<i *f tta naotlag of Ootobar 26*
tin i<alri vara Alraatad to brlA| to tha sort aMtla| thalr nuNUtu for rad load boaring potato to bo tootad, tha rod load eoatoat probably Mt to no boloa 40JC aad t)w plgaaotattcoo to raproaont a nop la prlaa*
Expoourao on to bo aado at Cloralasd, Jopila, tayrlllt, taa Fraaalaaa aad hv &rlaa&a*
Mr, Stcba tugsotod that vboa thoroughly arganload M uawHauit of tk* aVaaiptwrlo too to to bo oocduc tod bo oont to a vido Hot of lotoreitod partloo, aaplalalof exaotly vbat aould bo tootad and hov, aad Informing tha raelplaata that they vould rocolro periodto roporto of roavlta#
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VXth reference to yomr letter of Mtmaber IB tinnraltting eopy of e progree. report os the lnT.itlg.tlon o' tho effect of paint cn tho quality of fuelon void* la etrvoturel oteel by tho Battalia In. tt toto, we hart rand tho report end find it Tory interacting.
Aftor roadLag thlo roport mat ocr* eartxeelarly tho flnt report, u foil ao reviewing ay ri.it to tho Battalia In* Lite to, X auot frankly ooy I aa .cueahat dieeppoimtod. Tho prograa ao originally 'a.tllmed about tilr month. age to oaly about 60S ooaplotod and tho axpac** tw dato X aa lnformad approximate. |16,000. Baaed upon tho work ao it i. being eomductod oad oarofui rem&ng of tho too reports oUbaittod, thoro au.t bar* beoa a groat emeust of preliminary proparatioo.
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Cenaaatlmg upon tho rooulto to data, it ia orldoat fra. aatohlag tho uhai aoldiag toato at Battalia Xhotltuto tho othor day that a 90-SH rod load palot eannot h# eoepared with a po 1st eoBtelnlng 60$ tins chrssto end extssder* Tho aotai baoio of tho rod load paint i. far is azoooo of tho aimc ehroamte aad thorofere it sot eosparahl*. Therefore, cot ccly *111 tho welding operatit* ehew deflaito difference. bat aoro parlieularly tho texielty pha*. Ef our study will oortaialy bo out of Xiao*
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Tho prograa wo dl.oaaood at Battollo Xmatltute, whioh wa. approrod by tho
Ccmmlttoe, appear* to bo by far tha bait. Tho palate, both rod lead aad also ahroaato, are eaaparablo la ecmpo.itiom. Therefore, tho work eeodoeted by tho ladu.trial Hyglato fouodatiea ahould bo ropoatod.
Aftor glrlag tea* thought to tho dl.out.loe, to mhl.h wo all .ontribe tod at tha Battollo lartltub noting, It 1 obrlouo that thlo prograa aaa Intal utarioldy aad might take tangent. which wo aay aot want to ioT.ttlg.to duo to oxpoaoo. X olnoeroly reoognlso tho aoooooity of lure, tig* ting aaay of tho problaoa whioh wore dl.ou.oed but 1 do aot bolloro thoy thou Id booone part of our prograa ao welding of painted .tool. Therefore, tho remainder of tho program, ao you and X dl.ouo.od, eight bo eeoflmed to tottlmg tho palate mow u>dr ocn.ldoratlom by tho bead toot along with It , Holden'* g*. analytic, following thl., tho phyolool tootlmg part of tho prograa and itsooope tul4 bo di.eue.ed aa well ao tho oxpoo to. la ath.r word*, tho flrtt part of tho prograa sight terminate with tho tootl^ of tho aaarloa of mixed palate, ahiah wo dl.oua.od tho other day*
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XaoMitly ow Mr. 0P. Shob* ahovad mm an unfialtbod draft of a papar that h bad prepared ea Marlaa lad load frla>n bleb * aartalal? rtrj Interting and llliailAatl&g to aa. Aftor folng anrar tbit papar 1 aa rtrr final? baot of tba ld*a of having th* Selaatlfle Section of th* national Paint, Pbralab * lao^twr A*cool*tic pjbllthlBg thla paper and, at a aattar cf fact, ess't aa vfc? the? vmlda't be arilling and anion* to puhllah It*
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it jroa her* aa? difficult? la getting th* Scientific Sactlea to publish thla pcp-r, 1 aould b* (lad to taka th* natter up puraennll? vltb Mr. Trigg, although X raall? dca' t think that ill bo accessary*
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