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ASBESTOS TEXTILE INSTITUTE Minutes * General Meeting - October 8, 1971 Page -1- The Savannah Inn & Country Club, Savannah, Ga. In- attendance: AKZRICAI7 ASBESTOS TEXTILE CORP. G.H. Armstrong J.U. Christenbury G. S. Fabel Win. Maaskant J. L. Rainey H. H Walters GAP.LOCK IrIC. S.G. Dixit Alex. Kuzmuk UNIROYAL. INC. D.T. Austin.Jr. B.E. Carden L.F. Fieringer R.C. Hunt E.A. Morris S.J. Pecle,Jr. F.C. Phillips ASBESTOS CORPORATION LIMITED . P.E. Led ere JOHNS-KANVILLE CORP. N.D. Brown K. S. Lindstrom K.A. Roberta C. L. Sheckler N.W. Hendry (Canadian J/M Co.) NICOLET INDUSTRIES. INC. Geo. Griswold,Jr. E.W. Russell H.It. Porter Company, E.C. Bratt D. E. Childers J.U. Fcherd J.L. Kitchell Inc. RAY3FST0S-MANHATTAN. INC. J.A. Bettes,Jr. (Retired) J. U. Hawkins K. W. Oliver K.Q. Scowcroft E. P. Stefl . BELL AS3EST0S MINES LIMITED Marcel Dorais Walter H. Smith Wn. J.U. Smith CASSIAR ASBESTOS CORP.. LTD. R.A. Kuntze .' LAKE ASBESTOS OF QUEBEC. LTD. E.A. Farrell C.E. Stiefken KANUFACTURAS MULTIPLES S.A. Rafael E. Arnal NIPPON ASBESTOS CO.. LTD. Y. Sato CADWALADER .UlCT'ERSHAK & TAFT H.C. Roosevelt (Legal Counsel) ASBESTOS TEXTILE INSTITUTE H.E. Sunbury (Secretary; Note: Total attendance at the Oct . 6-Gth meeting was G5 persons, which included 23 uivea and 42 rueni ***** Minutes ***** 1. Vice President M.Q. Scowcroft called the meeting to order at S:30 A.M. and explained that he was substituting for President Moody whose illness prevented his attendance ac this meeting. . J Minutes - General Meeting - October , 1971 Page -2 2, Introductions: - Each person vas asked to stand and give his name anc' company affiliation. 3. The minutes of the last meeting were offered for reading. On motion by Mr. Geo. Griswold, seconded by Mr. H.C. Roosevelt, it vas voted to omit the reading of same. 4. The Financial Report was presented by Treasurer Kuzmulc, who stated that the Annual Audit of the Institute's books had been made as of September 9, lv71 under the supervision of Mr. R.E. Jeffery, Controller, Gar lock Inc. and found to be in order, hr. K.A. Roberts moved that the report be accepted, seconded by Hr. S.J. Peele,Jr., and so voted unanimously. The Report is attached. * 5. In his Legal Counsel Report, Attorney Roosevelt discussed the economic freeze now in effect by Presidential order, and the Economic Stabilization Act of 1970 which authorized same. The full resume of his remarks is attached to these minutes. 6. The Fibre Producer's Report v;as given by Mr. N.W. Hendry, General Sales Manager, Canadian Johns-Hanville Asbestos Limited. This is a regular feature of a General Meeting and we are indebted to Mr. Hendry for his comprehensive review of the world situation regarding production of asbestos fibre and the overall market. A resume' of his remarks is attached. 7. Chairman Scowcroft announced that the Board, of Governors had elected officers for the coning year; President - L.E. Moody of H.K. Porter Company, Inc. Vice President M.Q. Sccwcroft of Raybestos-Manhattan,Inc. Treasurer - Alex. Kuzoiuk of Garlock Inc. Exec. Sec'y - H.E. Sunbury c. New committee chairmen: - Mr. Scowcroft announced that Mr. K.A. Roberts of Johns-Kanvilie Corp. had been appointed chairman of the Air Hygiene 6 Hfg. Committee; and Mr. J.W. Echerc! of H.K. Porter Company, Inc. as chairman of the Technical Committee. Deferred temporarily was the appointment of a new chairman for the Fiber Testing Committee. 9. New Edition - Fibre Test Manual: - Mr. Scowcroft said that the QAHA had approved a Third Edition of the tanual entitled; "Testing Procedures for Chrysotile Asbestos Fibre" to be sponsored by the Asbestos Textile Institute, Asbestos Cement Products Assoc, and the Quebec Asbestos Mining Association. Preparation of the new edition to be under the supervision of the ATI Fiber Testing Committee. 10. Pending Legislative Developments: - Mr. C.L. Sheckler, Manager, Accident Prevention and Health Administration, Johns-!*anvil)2 Corp., reviewed recent developments under the Occupational Safety anu Health Act (OSHA) and activity related to the Environmental Pro tection Agency (EPA). During his informative talk, Mr. Sheckler nJ KIHUTES - CEUERAL flEEXINC - CONTINUED Page -3- nentioned that it ujs presently uncertain what agency would establish a standard. TLV (Threshold Limit Value) for asbestos. He is very ap prehensive that an impossibly low TLV will be adopted and so oa':e it impossible for asbestos u.anufacturers to stay in business if it is to be enforced. In respect to OSHA, confusion exists how to advise employees of standards, what records to keep, etc. Stressed the need for background data from industry to use In fighting back against adverse publicity cirected at asbestos-containing products. / 11. The cccmlttee reports were given by the respective chairmen: - Air Hygiene & Kfg. Committee - K.A. Roberts (Acting Chairman) Asbestos Advisory Committee - E.A. l-Iorris, Chairman Technical Committee - S,G. Dixit. Chairman Fiber Testing Cotnuittce - D.E. Childers, Chairman Their reports are attached to these minutes. Certificates of Appreciation were presented to retiring chairmen S.G. Dixit and D.E. Childers by Vice President Scowcroft who thanked them for their valued contribution to the work of the Institute during the post two years. 12. Chairman Sco\Jcroft said that we were very proud to h^ve four former presidents of ATI in attendance at this meeting, namely: - * Geo. S. Fabel - 1943 - 1950 John A. Bettes, Jr. - 1957 - 195U Staton J. Peele, Jr. - 1963 - 1964 John L. Rainey - 19(7 - 1 .JoL All of these men expressed their pleasure in attending, and their gratification to `enow that ATI continued to be an important factor in our industry. "Jack" Bettes, author of `*The History of the Asbestos Textile Industry in the United States," now appearing serially in the ASBESTOS Magazine, expressed his appreciation for the historical data supplied to him by many people (approx. 100) v;ithout whose help he would have been unable to ccxr.pile as complete a history. He epo'-e most highly of the ASBESTOS Magazine, an< recommended that it be given company advertising on a continuing basis in appreciation of the fact that it is the only media devotee. to the asbestos industry, and Its files are a valuable store house of information pertaining to our industry. The magazine will have Reprints of "History" if orders warrant, and. suggests orders be sent their: promptly (he receives no profit from same). 13. hr. E.A. Morris r..ovec< that Hr. John A. Bettes, Jr. be made "OFFICIAL HI STORIAH OF THE ASBESTOS TEXTILE INDUSTRY" by acclamation, and this was done by a rounc. of applause am a standing ovation! Minutes -- General Heeting - continued Page -Ij.- 1U* Chairman Scowcroft expressed our pleasure in having a repre sentative or our newest member, MA2JUFACTURAS MULTIPLES S.A., Caracas, Venezuela, in attendance, and welcomed Hr. Rafael E. Arnal on behalf of all those present. 15. Locations for future meetings were announced:- February 2-3, 1972 - The Mills-Hyatt House, Charleston, S.C. June 7-8* 1972 - Key Bridge Harriott Hotel, Washington,D.C. 16. There being no further business to come before this meeting it was moved by i-irK.a. Roberts, seconded by Kr. E.A. Morris, that it be adjounned. So voted. Respectfully submitted. ) 'JV ; V . --r . h.2. Sunbury ' Secretary v { "! . ) -asbestos textile destitute - Report of Funds September 9, 1971 Balance on Band at last report (May 10,1971) General Fund Reserve Fund Petty Cash Fund $ 3070,014. 15179.73 27.25 Total On Band Receipts To Reserve Fund (Interest to 6/30/71) To General Fund (Book sales) To General Fund (1971 dues) To General Fund (Reimbursement) ' . $189.73 72.20 I4.OO.OO 50.00 Total received Total On Hand and Received Disbursements Legal Retainer ( 3 mos. ending 6/30/71) $ 878.00 Legal Expenses ( 3 nos ending 6/30/71) 59.99 Secretary's salary ( I4. mos.) 9I4.8.OO F.I.C.A. Tax ( 2nd Qtr 1971 ) 78.00 Secretary's travel expense (June ATI mtg.) 50.00 Office rent ( I4. mos.) ' 300.00 A.T.I. meeting expense (June 9-10,1971) 929.73 Printing & Office Supplies 92.61^ Telephone ( 4 mos.) I67.2I4. Membrane Filter Instruction Booklet (1 M) I4.67.27 Bealth Safety Practices Folder ( 25 M) I2I4-7.I4.O ' Insurance ( Workman's Comp.) 18.00 Petty Cash ( Vouchors 529 - 550 inclusive) 103.18 Total Disbursements Balance On Hand as of September 9* 1971 Funds General Fund (Bank Statement of 9/9/71 ) Reserve Fund (With interest to 6/30/71 ) Petty Cash Fund ' $ 788.5k. 12769.14.6 (*) 91.50 Total Funds ~ Assets as of September 9, 1971 Total Funds' as listed above Accts Receivable (Book Sales) Postage On Hand Furniture -1 Equipment (Nominalvalue) Liabilities Total Assets Accounts Payable as of 9/9/71 $136h.9.50 22.68 11.67 1.00 1 Net Worth $18277.02 711-93 $18988.95 ' 5339.45 $13649.50 $13649.50 $13684.85 none $13684.85 (->) $2600.00 transferred to General Fund on July 2,1971 Respectfully submitted, fiVS.'- fiunbury - Asst. Treasurer^ uJ REMARKS OF COUNSEL Page -1 Asbestos Textile Institute - General Meeting - October C, 1:71 The legal authority by which the President was able to put the economic freeze into effect is Public Lav 91-379, as amende* -- the Economic Stabilization Act of 1970--whereby "the President is authorized to issue such ort-ers anc' regulations as he may < ee&. ap propriate to stabilize prices, rents, wages, ant.' salaries at levels not less than those prevailing on Hay 25, 1:70." This is a limitation imposed by Congress anc o.eans, simply, that regardless of what occurred prior to the freeze (hiring the base period, prices are not required to be set at less than what they were on May 25, 1370. The level of prices prevailing on Hay 25, 1970, is neteruineo as follows: (1) the average (mean) price at which transactions were made on that day (as borne out by appropriate records); (2) if no actual transactions too.; place on that cay, then the average (mean) price at which transactions too'.c place on the nearest day prior to May 25, 1970 may be taken as the "prevailing price level for Hay 25, 1970"; and (3) ceiling prices for goods not in existence on Kay 25, 1970 can only be calculated using the base period described in the Guide lines. __ A second, limitation imposed uncer the Congressional grant of authority is that the President's authority to issue and enforce orders and regulations under the Economic Stabilization Act expires April 30, 1972. The President cannot continue the freeze beyond that date with out additional legislation enacted by Congress. If one is dealing in the American market, how then does one determine the price he may charge? Under the Presif ent'a Executive Order, prices are stabilized "at levels not greater than the highest of those pertaining to a substantial volume of actual transactions" curing the base period of July 1C to August 14, lv71. In cases where no transactions occurred in the 30-day base period, Che base period will be the nearest preceding 30-^ay period in which a transaction c*id occur. A "30-day period" is tefinec* as a 30-cay block of tine prior to July 16. Hence, moving back frcci July 16, the nearest 30-day period would be June 16-15, and preceding chat. Hay 17-Junc 15, and so on. The ceiling price is the price at or above which ten per cent of the actual transactions during the base periou were mace, except that in cases of increases in postec or effective prices during the base period, the base period itself will be consicered to have begun at the time of the increase in posted and effective prices. A transaction takes place when a seller ships the product to a buyer, not when an order is received. Each ca.iaoc-ity is treated separately and, if shipments are tare to different classes of purchasers uncer oifferent terms, separate ceilings arc calculated for each ca.a.ocity for each class of purchaser. KSjARKS OF CCUIISZL - COITT IMIXED Page -2- The ceiling price is based on the record of all the units of each com modity shipped to each class of purchaser curing Che base period, and is calculated as the highest price at or above which ten per cent of thd units were shipped to a particular class of purchaser during the base period. Under the terms of the Executive Order, the price freeze ap plies to the Feller, not the buyer. The buyer is not required to police a seller's compliance with the Executive Order. But records iojst be kept of the highest prices charged during the base period, and rust be available for public inspection. If a product or service is "acu'1, the ceiling price is deteruined by the seller applying, the percentage mark-up he received during the base period on the most nearly similar product or service to the direct unit or net invoice cost of the new product or service. The ceiling price for a product or service that is new to the seller, but not to the target, is the price realized on the same or comparable product or service by the most nearly comparable competitor during the base period. We turn now to two specific problem areas: discounts and. long term contracts. What is the selling price for a material if there have been dual price situations, i.e., a published price and a dis counted price at which actual transactions were mace? The answer is that sales may be made at the highest price at which a substantial volume of actual transactions were mace during the 30-day period of time ending August 14. If products have been selling at a discounted price and not at the published price during the base period, the maximum price uould be the highest discounted price at which substantial trans actions were made. Thus, assuming that during the base period bags of insulation were selling at the list price, and also at a discount of six sixes, if a substantial number of transactions were made at the list price, then the list price, and anything below the list price could be charged, including a discount of four sixes, because the price freeze does not fix prices at their highest permissible level -- it prohibits sales at a price higher than the permissible level. However, if all sales during the base period were made at the discounted price of six sixes and there were not in fact substantial actual transactions at a higher price, then the price would have to be frozen at the six sixes discounted price, and it would not be permissible to decrease the dis count to four sixes, as that uould raise the price over the highest level during the base period. Where different prices are offered to different territories, or different rinds of customers, price ceilings are to be set on the basis of the nortal procedures U3et- In establishing the mar :et prices. Market price ceilings must be established at no greater than the highest price at which substantial volume transactions were carried.. out in the firm's individual normal pricing areas, regardless of whether these pricing areas are national, regional, or individual. REMARKS OF COUNSEL - CONTINUED Page -3- If quantity discounts are offered, can a'custocner who purchased large volumes and va3 previously eligible for the discount be charged the applicable higher price if he reduces the amount of his purchases and thus falls into a lower quantity and higher price bracket? In other words, may prices be changed so long as the rate structure on which they are based is not changed? The answer is yes. During the 90-day freeze, customers may be charged in accordance with rate of price schedules established in the base period prior to August 15, 1971. However, the charges applicable to the various categories of rates or prices set out in the effective schedules may not be increased. Further more, if it has been the practice to give discounts under certain cir cumstances, these discounts cannot be discontinued curing the freeze. The rule with respect to long-term contracts is that if the . contract was made before the freeze, and there are no deliveries scheduled until after the freeze, the freeze does not apply. If any deliveries are to be made curing the freeze period, the aeller majr charge no more than his ceiling price determined by the price charged for deliveries made during the base period. If the shipment price on a contract made prior to the freeze and calling for delivery curing the freeze is above the ceiling price, the seller may elect not to perform at all, but he is not permitted to perform at a contract price above the ceiling price. Nor may he force the buyer to accept ship ment referred to a date after the freeze. If the seller does make delivery, the buyer is obligated to pay no more than the ceiling*price. Haven C. Roosevelt, Atty. Cadwalader, Wickersham & Taft ASBEStOS TEXTILE INSTITUTE PRESENTATION BY II. W. KEIIDRY FRIDAY. OCTOBER CTH, 1971 Shipments of Canadian asbestos fibre for the first seven months of 1971 were .`J2,L(.4 tons or 3.3Z higher than for the same period in 1970. The availability of all grades of spinning fibre is good ant. this situ ation can be expected to continue for some time in the future. The application of the U.S. surcharge does not apply to asbestos fibre, but indirectly Che surcharge will affect sales of asbestos fibre to such countries as Japan ant! West Germany. Prior to the application of the surcharge seme weakness in rtemand was evident in many of the Inter national markets. World production of asbestos fibre in 1.70 uas 3,22,C40 tons versus 3,(31,250 tons in 1'jCJ or on increase of approximately 5Z. The problems related to asbestos and health are of continuing concern to Che asbestos fibre producers. It is unfortunate indeed that the press representatives continue to ta e statements out of context and to be more interested ia scnsationalisui rather than facts. Finally, the following comments are pertinent to the status of some new asbestos producers, viz: a) The new producer in Australia is forecast to be in production in early 1972 at a rate of 75,000 tons per year. b) The asbestos producer in Brazil, located north of Brazilia, is ex pected to be increased from 13,000 to 27,000 tons. c) The Colombian asbestos fibre prospect could reach the production stage at a rate of approximately 25,000 tons per year. d) Work is being continued to develop an asbestos producer in Central Colombia. If financing can be arranged the production rate is ex pected to be 25,000 tons annually. e) Work is being continued by Cerro Corporation toward the evaluation of an asbestos deposit in Central Greece. N. W. Hendry General Sales Uanager Canadian Johns-Iianvllle Asbestos Limited O -) AIR HYGIENE & MFG. COMMITTEE Asbestos Textile Institute Page -1- October 7# 1971 - Savannah Inn : Country Club, Savannah,Ga. In attendance: E.A. Roberts - Johns-Hanvilla Corp. (Acting chairman) C.L. Sheckler - u " " (Chin. Environmental Health Comm.) G. ii. Armstrong - American Asbestos Textile Corp. J,,L. Rainey H. H. Valter - " n " " 11 n nn L.F. Dieringer - Lniroyal, Inc. B.E. Carden - " " R.C. Hunt - "" J.L. Mitchell - H.K. Porter Comoany,Inc. E.C. Bratt - " "" IHA. Farrell - Lake Asbestos of Quebec,Ltd. Rafael E. Amal - Manufactures Multiples S.A. (Caracas, Venezuela) Y. Sato - Nippon Asbestos Co.,Ltd. (USA representative) . -jkhkhj Minutes <khkk* This meeting was, in part,- held as a joint committee meeting with the Environmental Health Committee. The meeting was opened with a brief review of some of the environmental protection equipment being used by some of our members. . Hr.J.L. Rainey presented a paper entitled "Hoist Spinning Process" written by Mr. J.W. Weber, Chairman of the Board, American Asbestos Textile Corporation. I-Ir. Rainey discussed the data in the paper which indicates that a stronger, more dust free yarn is obtained when moisture, in the form of water or an emulsion, is applied at the rub apron of the carding machine. While the process was developed prim arily for the purpose of reducing the atmospheric dust count on the delivery end of the carding machines (where the greater part of the card-tenders time is spent) it has been found that other advantages result in subsequent operations as explained in Mr. Weber's paper which is included with these minutes. Committee members were most appreciative of Mr. Webers cooperation in supplying the results of his extensive experimental development work for the benefit of our industry.! Members desiring further information on this process may write direct to ilr.J.W.Weber, American Asbestos Textile Corporation, P.0. Box 220, Norristown,Pa. I9I4.OI4. (USA). Considerable time was spent in reviewing the Occupational Safety & Health Act (OSHA) and the anticipated Emission Standards for asbestos soon to be established by the Environmental Protection Agency. Mr. .Sheckler urged that the ATI member companies undertake to collect industry plant data and employee data that would be helpful to AIA/KA in testifying before sub-committee hearings in Washington,w.C..At the present time our industry, as such, lacks the facts to refute or challenge statements 'so adverse to asbestos that have received .such wide publicity in the last several years. It was therefore the joint recommendation of the Air Hygiene C: jifg. and the Environmental Health Committees that the Institute establish a program to obtain /' 0 O Minutes - Air Hygiene & Mfg. Committee - continued Page -2- meaningful data for use in guiding national standards. It was sug gested that a start could be made by contacting Dr, Lewis J. Craliey, formerly in charge of Division of Epidemiology Special Services, USPHS, Dept, of HEW, under whose supervision in-plant surveys of asbestos plants and employees were made by Federal authorities over a period of many years. Dr. Craliey is presently employed as a consultant to Marcus Key,M.D.# Head of the Kational Institute of Occupational Safety L Health. It is hoped that the data now in the Dept, of HEW files can be released for possible benefit to the asbestos textile industry. * Following the meeting, arrangements were made to ship the ATITs Bausch i: Lomb Dust Counter to the American Asbestos Textile Corp. plant at ilorristown, ?a. It will be shipped from GARLOCK HIC. Respectfully submitted, . K.A. Roberts, Acting chairman MOIST SPINNING PROCESS by:- J.W. Weber Moisture is applied to roving at the rub-apron section of the carding machines. The moisture may be in the form of water or an emulsion. Sufficient moisture is added to increase tihe total water content of the roving to from St o 7 percent. Since the moisture is applied by the rub aprons to the fibers at the surface of the roving,, this process is particularly effective in preventing asbestos from flying off the roving and yarn during the following spinning, twist ing and winding operations. In relatively dry roving and yarn, the asbestos fibers adhering to the outside tend to becom airborne. The application of moisture to the outer surface of the roving also results in tho retention of a relatively lofty yarn (which is desirable),rather than the creation of the condensed condition of an extruded yam. While the process has been developed primarily for the purpose of reducing the atmospheric dust count on the delivery end of the carding machines (where the greater part of tho card-tender^ time is spent), and in subsequent operations such as spinning, twisting, and winding, it has been found that this process imparts considerable strength to the roving and thereby results in greatly reduced roving breaks during spinning. This further reduces the dust count at the spinning frames, since broken ends on tho bobbins raise a virtual dust storm. We have found further that, since the moist roving is in a somewhat more compact condition when being wound on the card spools, considerably more yardage can be wound on spools of the same diameter than can be achieved with relatively dry roving. In order to determine the relative merits of moist vs relatively dry roving at the spinning operation, asbestos fiber counts were taken, results of which are indicated in the following tablet- dee Page 3) 'u J Minutes - Air Hygiene ft. Ilfg. Committee, continued: Page -3- ASBESTOS FIBER COTJiiTS Hoist vs Dry Roving FIBER COUNT Spindle Speed: bh00 to 14-800 RPH 9/25/71 Hoist Roving, 13 Cut 9/25/71 Dry Roving, 13 Cut Spindle Speed: h.000 RPM 9/20/71 Moist Roving, 13 Cut 9/20/71 Dry Roving, 13 Cut : Total 1 Longer than) Longer than , Piters ' 5 Microns : 10 Microns I---------------- !------------------------ i----------------------- r-wi IJ i i i lv.o ; 2.5 = ! l.B ; 'i . j`13.0 j 5.k j 3.6 ' 7.5 ! 23.0 ` 1.7 9.1 f i i i 1.5 j 5.0 1 : I i The spinning was performed on balloonless spinning frames operating normally between I4.50O and 5^00 spindle speed, depending on cut and quality of yarn. AMERICA]J ASBESTOS TEXTILE CORPORATION (Signed) J.W. Weber Chairman of the Board ASD2ST0S TEXTILE HiSTITiJTE Minutes - ASBESTOS ADVISORY COMMITTEE meeting October 7, 1971 - Savannah, Ga. 4KKKK* Minutes <KS->C-> The Asbestos Advisory Committee met with all member companies in attendance The main topic of our discussions concerned the legislation which either has been promulgated, or which is pending, regarding the use in certain applications of asbestos products. We are aware of the instructions which the Kavy Department has . issued to its repair facilities regarding the use of asbestos textile products; and we are told that other, more stringent notices are awaiting issuance. I The impact and effect of these instructions, adverse to asbestos products, is severe, and they present us with a most frustrating situation. It is frustrating because we are forced to continually maintain a defensive position -- and we have very little evidence at hand to refute the charges which are levelled at the use of asbestos products. . However, such evidence possibly does exist. Some seven years ago. Dr. Lewis J. Cralley of the Dept, of Health,Education c: Welfare, undertook a study of the asbestos textile industry in an effort to truly measure the health hazards involved in the manufacture of asbestos products. This study has never been completed, and only fragmentary reports have been issued. Accordingly, the Asbestos Advisory Committee lias requested that iir. C.L. Sheckler, Chairman of the ATI Environmental Health Comm ittee, meet with Dr. Cralley and try to obtain the following information:- (1) ^/hat is the exact status of the Cralley Report? (2) /hat can the ATI do to assist in completing it? (3) 'That are the future plans regarding the effective use of Dr. Cralley1s report once it is completed? In addition we have asked Hr. Sheckler to extend an invitation to Dr. Cralley to attend our next meeting which is to bo held in Charleston, S.C. on February 2-3*1972. Wa look forward to the report of iir. Shecklerfs visit with Dr. Cralley with great interest.! Respectfully submitted, E.A. Morris Chairman u MINUTES J TECHNICAL COMMITTEE In attendance: Asbestos Textile Institute October 7, 1971 - Savannah, Ga, D.T. Austin,Jr. S.G. Dixit (Chairman) J.'h. Echerd J.W. Hawkins ~W. Haaskant Uniroyal,Inc. Garlock Inc. H.K. Porter Company Raybestos-Manhattan,Inc. American Asbestos Textile Corp. In addition, the following members of the Fiber Testing Committee -were present at the Joint meeting: D.E. Childers (Chairman), R.A. Enntze, and Y/.H. Smith. The following subjects were discussed;- (1) ASTI! D 1118 - Magnetic Rating Standard , The tenth draft was reviewed by the joint committee. It was decided to recommend to AST1-I that this standard be approved in the present form. (2) ASTI! D 1573 ~ Heat Aging of Asbestos Textiles P.0, llicodemus. Chairman, Sub-Committee A--2+, ASTli has received verbal consent from Federal Government regarding dropping this standard in view of the difficulty involved in conducting heat aging tests that yield meaningful results. * (3) MIL-I-I5>3k9C - Insulation Tape, Thermal A decision regarding removal of Amosite in the core material Is to be conveyed to Naval Ship Engineering Center. The thermal insulation value, or "K factor*1, has not been mentioned in the specification. However, all the committee members felt that it was not necessary that it be mentioned. The Chairman thanked all the members of the Technical and the Fiber Testing Committees for their excellent cooperation during his two-year term as chairman. " Respectfully submitted. Sudhakar G. Dixit Chairman UJ ASBESTOS TEXTILE INSTITUTE Minutes - FI3ER TESTING COMMITTEE October 7> 1971 - Savannah, Ga. In attendance : - Dewey E. Childers (Chairman)------- II.K. Porter Company Walter H. Smith --------- Bell Asbestos Mines,Limited C.S. Stiefken --------------- Lake Asbestos of Quebec,Ltd. R.A. Kuntze --------------------- Cassiar Asbestos Corp.,Ltd. skhkh-< Minutes A brieD meeting wa3 held with the Technical Committee to help review the 10th draft on ASTI! D1118-57, Standard fiothod of Test for . Magnetic Rating of Asbestos used for Electrical purposes. The Fiber Testing Committee discussed the revision of the manual "Testing Procedures for Chrysotile Asbestos Fibre", noting that formal approval of the project had now been given by QAilA. A number of changes and improvements have been formalized by the Quebec Asbestos Mining Association, but the tests were not available for review at this meeting. Since the October meeting the chairman has received ten (10)-of the procedures from W.U. Foster, the chairman of QAiiA"s Uniform Classification & Grading Committee. . Thus, in familiarizing ouselves with these changes, we can expect to have a considerable amount of work to do at the next several meetings. Some of the suggestions from QAiIA pertaining tq the make up of the revised manual are:- (1) Those tests that are now in ASTM format should go in the revised nanual in the ASTil format. * -'(2) Those tests not yet in ASTii format would go in as now written so as not to delay the new edition too much. (3) The new manual should be in loose-leaf form. My chairmanship of the Fiber Testing Committee during the past two years is now completed. I would like to express my aoprociation to all members for their assistance during my term as chairman of the committee. Respectfully submitted. Dewey E. Childers Chairman o MINUTES J In attendance; TECHNICAL COMMITTEE .Asbestos Textile Institute October 7, 1971 - Savannah, Ga. D.T. Austin,Jr. S,,G. Dixit (Chairman) J.;:. Echerd J.W. Hawkins Maaskant Uniroyal, Inc. Garlock Inc. H.H. Porter Company Raybestos-Manhattan,Inc. American Asbestos Textile Corp In addition, the following members of the Fiber Testing Committee were present at the joint meeting: D.E. Childers (Chairman), R.A. Xuntze, and V/.H. Smith. The following subjects were discussed;- :(1) ASTI I D 1118 - Magnetic Rating Standard . The tenth draft was reviewed by the joint committee. It was decided to recommend to AST1-I that this standard be approved in the present form. ^ (2) ASTI1 D 1573 - Heat Aging of Asbestos Textiles P.0. ITicodenus, Chairman, Sub-Committee A-I4., ASTH has received verbal consent from Federal Government regarding dropping this standard in view of the difficulty involved in conducting heat aging tests that yield meaningful results. (3) THX-I-l3k9C - Insulation Tape, Thermal A decision regarding removal of Amosite in the core material is to be conveyed to Naval Ship Engineering Center. The thermal, insulation value, or "K factor11, has not been mentioned in the specification. However, all the committee members felt that it was not necessary that it be mentioned. The Chairman thanked all the members of the Technical and the Fiber Testing Committees for their excellent cooperation during his two-year term as chairman. Respectfully submitted. Sudhalcar G. Dixit Chairman uJ AS32ST0S T3CTIL3 IHSTITtJrS Minutes - FI3ER TZSTHIG COMMITTEE October 7, 1971 - Savannah, Ga. In attendance: - Dewey E. Childers (Chairman)------- II.K. Porter Company Walter n. Smith ------- - Bell Asbestos Mines,Limited C.S. Stiefken --------------- Lake Asbestos of Quebec,Ltd. R. A. Kuntze --------------------- Cassiar Asbestos Corp.,Ltd. Minutes -ihkkh* A brief meeting was held with the Technical Committee to help review the 10th draft on AS Til DlllS-57, Standard Method of Test for . Magnetic Rating of Asbestos used for Electrical purposes. The Fiber Testing Committee discussed the revision of the manual "Testing Procedures for Chrysotile Asbestos Fibr.e", noting that formal approval of the project had now been given by QAKA. A number of changes and improvements have been formalized by the Quebec Asbestos Mining Association, but the tests were not available for review at this meeting. Since the October meeting the chairman has received ten (10) of the procedures from W.U. Foster, the chairman of QAiiA "s Uniform Classification : Grading Committee.. Thus, in familiarizing ouselves with these changes, we can expect to have a considerable amount of work to do at the next several meetings. Some of the suggestions from QAiiA pertaining to the make up of the revised manual are:- (1) Those tests that are now in ASTM format should go in the revised manual in the ASTI I format. (2) Those tests not yet in ASTii format would go in as now written so as not to delay the new edition too much. (3) The new manual should be in loose-leaf form. My chairmanship of the Fiber Testing Comnittoe during the past two years is now completed. I would like to express my aoprociation to all members for their assistance during my term as chairman of the committee. Respectfully submitted. Dewey E. Childers Chairman ASBESTOS TEXTILE INSTITUTE Minute* * General Meeting - October 8, 1971 Page -I The Savannah Inn & Country Club, Savannah, Ga. In- attendance: AMERICAN ASBESTOS TEXTILE COUP. G.H. Armstrong J.W. Christenbury G. S. Fabel Wm. Maaskant J. L. Rainey H. H. Walter* GAP.LOCK INC, S.G. Dixit Alex. Kuzmuk UNIROYAL. IHC. D. T. Austin,Jr. B. E. Carden L.F. Dieringer R. C. Hunt E. A. Morris S. J. Pecle,Jr. F. C. Phillip* ASBESTOS CORPORATION LIMITED P.E. Led ere JOHNS-KANVILLE CORP. N.D. Brown M. S. Lindstrow K. A. Roberta C. L. Sheclcler N. W. Hendry (Canadian J/M Co.) NICOLET INDUSTRIES, IHC. Geo. Griswold,Jr. E.W. Russell H.IC. Porter Corr.pany. Inc. E.C. Bratt D. E. Childers J.W. Fcherd J.L. Mitchell RAYBFSTOS-IiANHATTAN. INC. J.A. Bettes,Jr. (Retired) J. W. Hankins K. W. Oliver N.Q. Scowcroft E. P. Stefl . BELL ASBESTOS MINES LIMITED Marcel Dorai* Walter H. Smith Wn. J.W. Smith CASSIAR ASBESTOS CORP.. LTD. R.A. Kuntze > o LAKE ASBESTOS OF QUEBEC. LTD. E.A. Farrell C. E. Stiefken MANUFACTURAS MULTIPLES S.A. Rafael E. Arnal NIPPON ASBESTOS CO.. LTD. Y. Sato CADWALADER.NICER SHAN & TAFT H.C. Roosevelt (Legal Counsel) ASBESTOS TEXTILE INSTITUTE H.E. Sunbury (Secretary; Note: Total attendance at the Oct. 6-Gth meeting was 05 persons, uhich included 23 uives and 42 went * -irk Minutes *"*"*** 1. Vice President M.Q. Scowcroft called the meeting to order at E:30 A.M. and explained that he was substituting for President Moody uhose illnesa prevented his attendance at this meeting. uJ Minutes - General Meeting - October C, 1971 Page -2 2, Introductions: Each person was asked to stand and give his name and company affiliation, 3. The minutes of the last meeting were offered for reading. On motion by Mr. Geo. Griswold, seconded by Mr. H.C. Roosevelt, it was voted to omit the reading of same. 4. The Financial Report was presented by Treasurer Kuzmulc, who stated that the Annual Audit of the Institute's books had been made as of September 9, lv71 under the supervision of Mr. R.E. Jeffery, Controller, Garloclc Inc. ancj found to be in order. Mr. K.A. Roberts moved that the report be accepted, seconded by Mr. S.J. Peele,Jr, and so voted unanimously. The Report is attached. 5. In his Legal Counsel Report, Attorney Roosevelt discussed the economic freeze now in effect by Presidential order, and the Economic Stabilization Act of 1970 which authorized same. The full resume of his remarks is attached to these minutes. 6. The Fibre Producer's Report was given by Mr. N.W. Hendry, General Sales Manager, Canadian Johns-Manville Asbestos Limited. This is a regular feature of a General Meeting and we are indebted to Mr. Hendry for his comprehensive review of the world, situation regarding production of asbestos fibre and the overall market. A resume* of his remarks is attached. * 7. Chairman Scowcroft announced that the Board of Governors had elected officers for the coming year: President - L.E. Moody of H.K. Porter Company, Inc. Vice President - M.Q. Scowcroft of Raybestos-Manhattan,Inc. Treasurer - Alex. Kuzmulc of Garlocfc Inc. Exec. Sec*y - H.E. Sunbury ? New committee chairmen: - Mr. Scowcroft announced that Mr. K.A. Roberts of Johns-Manville Corp. had been appointed chairman of the Air Hygiene L Mfg. Cocnittee; and Mr. J.W. Echerd of H.K. Porter Company, Inc. as chairman of the Technical Committee. Deferred temporarily v;as the appointment of a new chairman for the Fiber Testing Committee. 9. New Edition - Fibre Test Manual: - Mr. Scowcroft said that the QAMA had approved a Third Edition of the tranual entitled: "Testing Procedures for Chrysotile Asbestos Fibre" to be sponsored by the Asbestos Textile Institute, Asbestos Cement Products Assoc, and the Quebec Asbestos Mining Association. Preparation of the new edition to be under the supervision of the ATI Fiber Testing Como.it tee. 10. Pending Legislative Developments: - Mr. C.L. ShecUler, Manager, Accident Prevention and Health Administration, Johns-!*anvil)2 Corp., reviewed recent developments under the Occupational Safety ano Health Act (OSHA) and activity related, to the Environmental Pro tection Agency (EPA). During his informative talk, Mr. Sheckler oJ MINUTES - GENERAL MEETING - CONTINUED Page "3- mentioned that It uas presently uncertain uhat agency would establish a standard TLV (Threshold Lit.it Value) for asbestos. He is very ap prehensive that an impossibly low TLV will be adopted and so make it impossible for asbestos manufacturers to stay in business if it is to be enforced. In respect to OSHA, confusion exists how to advise employees of standards, what records to keep, etc. Stressed the need for background data from industry to use in fighting bac'.; against adverse publicity directed at asbestos-containing products. 11. The committee reports were given by the respective chairmen: - Air Hygiene & Kfg. Committee - K.A. Roberts (Acting Chairman) Asbestos Advisory Committee - E.A, Morris, Chairman Technical Committee - S,G. Dixit, Chairman Fiber Testing Conroittee - D.E. Childers, Chairman Their reports are attached to these minutes. Certificates of Appreciation were presented to retiring chairmen S.G. Dixit and D.E. Childers by Vice President Scoucroft who thanked them for their valued contribution to the work of the Institute during the post two years. 12. Chairman Scowcroft said that we were very proud to h^ve four former presidents of ATI in attendance at this meeting, namely: - * Geo. S. Fabel - 1943 - U50 John A. Bettes, Jr. - 1957 - 195U Staton J. Feele, Jr. - 1963 - 1964 John L. Rainey - 19(7 - 1961: All of these men expressed their pleasure in attending, and their gratification to '.enow that ATI continued to be an important factor in our industry. "Jack" Bettes, author of "The History of the Asbestos Textile Industry in the United States," now appearing serially in the ASBESTOS Magazine, expressed his appreciation for the historical data supplied to him by many people (approx. 100) v;ithout whose help he would have been unable to compile as complete a history. He spo'-e most highly of the ASBESTOS Magazine, an<- recoiro:ended that it be given company advertising on a continuing basis in appreciation of the fact that it is the only media devotee, to the asbestos industry, and its files are a valuable store house of information pertaining to our industry. The magazine will have Reprints of "History" if orders warrant, and suggests orders be sent then: promptly (he receives no profit from same) 13. Mr. E.A. Morris moved that Hr. John A. Bettes, Jr. be made "OVfXCTAL HISTORIAN OF TILE ASBESTOS TEXTILE liJTUSTRY" by acclamation, and this was done by a roum. of applause am a standing ovation! Minutes - General Meeting - continued Page -4- 1L* Chairman Scowcroft expressed our pleasure in having a repre sentative cl* our newest member, MANUFACTURAS MULTIPLES S.A., Caracas, Venezuela, in attendance, and welcomed Hr. Rafael E. Amal on behalf of all those present. 15* Locations for future meetings were announced:- February 2-3, 1972 - The Mills-Hyatt House, Charleston, S.C. June 7-8, 1972 - Key Bridge Harriott Hotel, Washington,D.C. 16. There being no further business to come before this meeting it was moved by 1-Ir.K.A. Roberts, seconded by hr. E.A. Morris, that it be adjourned. So voted. Respectfully submitted. Secretary . y Roport of Funds { ') ' .) 'ASBESTOS TEXTILE INSTITUTE ^ September 9, 1971 Balance on Band at last report (May 10,1971) General Fund Reserve Fund Petty Cash Fund $ 3070.04 15179.73 27.25 Receipts To Reserve To General To General To General Total On Hand Fund (Interest to6/30/71) $109.73 Fund (Book sales) 72.20 Fund (1971 dues) 400.00 Fund (Reimbursement) 50*00 Total received Total On Hand and Received Disbursements Legal Retainer ( 3 mos. ending 6/30/71) $ 070.00 Legal Expenses ( 3 mos ending 6/30/71) 59.99 Secretary's salary ( 4 mos.) 94-8.00 F.I.C.A. Tax ( 2nd Qtr 1971 ) 78.00 Secretary's travel expense (June ATI mtg.) 50.00 Office rent ( 4 mos.) . 300.00 A.T.I. meeting expense (June 9-10,1971) . 929.73 Printing & Office Supplies 92.64 Telephone ( 4- mos.) 167.24 Membrane Filter Instruction Booklet (1 M) 407.27 Health Safety Practices Folder ( 25 M) 1247.40 ' Insurance ( Workman's Comp.) 10.00 Petty Cash ( Vouchers 529 - 550 inclusive) 103.10 Total Disbursements Balance On Hand as of September 9, 1971 Funds General Fund (Bank Statement of 9/9/71 ) Reserve Fund (With interest to 6/3/71 ) Petty Cash Fund Total Funds $ 780.54 12769.40 (*) 91.50 Assets as of September 9, 1971 Total Funds as listed above Accts Receivable (Book Sales) Postage On Iland Furniture -1 Equipment (Nominal value) Total Assets Liabilities Accounts Payable as of 9/9/71 $13649.50 22.60 11.67 1.00 Net Worth $18277.02 711.93 $18988.95 5339. 45 $13611-9.50 $13614.9.50 $13684.85 none $13684.85 (*>) $2600.00 transferred to General Fund on July 2,1971 Respectfully submitted, ftVTT.'* Sukbury 'L~i Asst. Treasurer^ uJ REMARKS OF COUNSEL Page -1- Asbestos Textile Institute - General Meeting - October C, 1.71 The legal authority by which the President was able to put the economic freeze into effect Is Public Law 91-379, as amende* -- the Economic Stabilization Act of 1970--uhcreby "the President it authorized to issue such orders ant regulations as he may :ei. ap propriate to stabilize prices, rents, wages, ant.1 salaries at levels not less than those prevailing on Kay 25, 1-^70." This is a limitation imposed by Congress anc means, simply, that regardless of what occurred prior to the freeze (hiring the base period, prices are not required to be set at less than what they were on May 25, 1370. The level of prices prevailing on Hay 25, 1V70, is ceteruineo as follows: - (1) the average (mean1) price at which transactions were wade on that day (as borne out by appropriate records); (2) if no actual transactions too-; place on that cay, then the average (mean) price at which transactions too'.c place on the nearest (Jay prior to Hay 25, .1970 may be taken as the "prevailing price level for Kay 25, 1970"; and (3) ceiling prices for goods not in existence on Kay 25, 1970 can only be calculated using the base period described in the Guide lines. A second, limitation imposed unoer the Congressional grant of authority is that the President's authority to issue and enforce orders and regulations under the Economic Stabilization Act expires April 30, 1972. The President cannot continue the freeze beyond that date with out additional legislation enacted by Congress. If one is dealing in the American market, how then does one determine the price he cay charge? Under the Presirent's Executive Order, prices are stabilized "at levels not greater than the highest of those pertaining to a substantial volume of actual transactions" during the base period of July 10 to August 14, lv71. In cases where no transactions occurred in the 30-day base period, the base period will be the nearest preceding 30-cay period in which a transaction cid occur. A "30-day period" is defined as a 30-eay block of time prior to July 16. Hence, moving back from July 16, the nearest 30-day period would be June 16-15, and preceding chat. May 17-Junc 15, and so on. The ceiling price is the price at or above which ten per cent of the actual transactions during the base period were mace, except that in cases of increases in posted or effective prices during the base period, the base period Itself will be considered to have begun at Che time of the increase in posted and effective prices. A transaction takes place uhen a seller ships the product to a buyer, not when an order is received. Each commodity is treated separately and, if shipments are tace to different classes of purchasers uncer different terms, separate ceilings are calculated for each coa.ocity for each class of purchaser. REMARKS OF CCUIISZL - COUIIHUED Page -2- The ceiling price is based on the record of all Che units of each comuocity shipped to each class of purchaser curing the base period, and is calculated as the highest price at or above which ten per cent of thd units were shipped to a particular class of purchaser curing the base period. Under the terms of the Executive Order, the price freeze ap plies to the seller, not the buyer. The buyer is not required to police a seller's compliance with the Executive Order. But records luust be *:ept of the highest prices charged during the base period, and r.aist be available for public inspection. If a product or service is "neo", the ceiling price is deter mined by the seller applying, the percentage mark-up he received during the base period on the most nearly similar product or service to the direct unit or net invoice cost of the new product or service. The ceiling price for a product or service that is new to the seller, but not to the c-ar'iet, is the price realized on the same or comparable product or service by the most nearly comparable competitor during the base period. We turn now to two specific problem areas: discounts and. long term contracts. What is the selling price for a material if there have been dual price situations, i.e., a published price and a dis counted price at which actual transactions were mace? The answer is that sales may be made at the highest price at which a substantial volume of actual transactions were made during the 30-day period of time ending August 14. If products have been selling at a discounted price and not at the published price during the base period, the maximum price would be the highest discounted price at which substantial trans actions were made. Thus, assuming that during the base period bags of insulation were selling at the list price, and also at a discount of six sixes, if a substantial number of transactions were made at the list price, then the list price, ant: anything below the list price could be charged, including a discount of four sixes, because the price freeze does not fix prices at their highest permissible level -- it prohibits sales at a price higher than the permissible level. However, if all sales during the base period were made at the discounted price of six sixes and there were not iu fact substantial actual transactions at a higher price, then the price would have to be frozcu at the six sixes discounted price, and it would not be permissible to decrease the dis count to four sixes, as that would raise the price over the highest level during, the base period. Where different prices are offeree1, to different territories, or different rinds of customers, price ceilings are to be set on the basis of the nortal procedures usee- in establishing the mar :et prices, llar'cct price ceilings must be established at no greater than the highest price at which substantial volume transactions were carried out in the firti's individual norual pricing areas, regardless of whether these pricing areas are national, regional, or individual. O- :j REMARKS OF COUNSEL - CONTINUED Page -3- If quantity discounts are offered, can a'customer who purchased large volumes and was previously eligible for the discount be charged the applicable higher price if he recuces the amount of his purchases and thus falls into a lower quantity and higher price bracket? In other words, may prices be changed so long as the rate structure on which they are based is not changed? The answer is yes. During the 90-day freeze, customers may be charged in accordance with rate of price schedules established In the base period prior to August 15, 1971. However, the charges applicable to the various categories of rates or prices set out in the effective schedules may not be increased. Further more, if it has been the practice to give discounts under certain cir cumstances, these discounts cannot be discontinued during the freeze. The rule with respect to long-term contracts is that if the . contract was made before the freeze, and there are no deliveries scheduled until after the freeze, the freeze does not apply. If any deliveries are to be made curing the freeze period, the seller may' charge no more than his ceiling price determined by the price charged for deliveries made during the base period. If the shipment price on a contract made prior to the freeze one calling for delivery during the freeze is above the ceiling price, the seller may elect not to perform at all, but he is not permitted, to perform at a contract price above the ceiling price. Nor way he force the buyer to accept ship ment deferred to a date after the freeze. If the seller does make delivery, the buyer is obligated to pay no more than the ceiling-price. Haven C. Roosevelt, Atty. Cadualader, Wickersham & Taft ASBESfOS TEXTILE INSTITUTE PRESENTATION BY II. W. HENDRY FRIDAY. OCTOBER CTH, 1971 Shipments of Canadian asbestos fibre for the first seven oionths of 1971 were 2,Lt4 tons or 3.3Z higher than for the same period in 1970. The availability of all grades of spinning fibre is Rood ar*i. this situ ation can be expected to continue for some time in the future. The application of the U.S. surcharge does not apply to asbestos fibre, but indirectly Che surcharge uill affect sales of asbestos fibre to such countries as Japan anc! West GerLiany. Prior to the application of the surcharge seme weakness in demand uas eviuent in many of the Inter national markets. / World production of asbestos fibre in 1.70 uas 3,22,C40 tons versus 3,C3i,250 tons in 1'jCJ or an increase of approximately 5X. The problems related to asbestos and. health are of continuing concern to the asbestos fibre producers. It is unfortunate inceed that Che press representatives continue to ta e statements out of context and .*to be more interested in sensationalism rather than facts. . Finally, the following comments are pertinent to the status of some new asbestos producers, viz: a) The new producer in Australia is forecast to be in production in early 1972 at a rate of 75,000 tons per year. b) The asbestos producer In Brazil, located north of Brazilia, Is ex pected to be increased from 13,000 to 27,000 tons. c) The Colombian asbestos fibre prospect could reach the production sta^e at a rate of approximately 25,000 tons per year. d) Worl; Is beinp, continued to develop an asbestos producer in Central Colombia. if financing can be arranged the production rate is ex pected to be 25,000 tons annually. e) Nor -: is bcinfc, continued by Cerro Corporation toward the evaluation of an asbestos deposit in Central Greece. N. W. Hendry General Sales lianager Canadian Johns-lianvilie Asbestos Limited O -> AIR HYGIENE & MFG. COMMITTEE Asbestos Textile Institute Page -1- October 7# 1971 - Savannah. Inn : Country Club, Savannah,Ga. In attendance: K. A. Roberts - Johns-llanville Corp. (Acting chairman) C.L. Sheckler - 11 " " (Chin. Environmental Health Comm,) G. il. Armstrong - American asbestos Textile Corp. J-L. Rainey - " " M" H. H. Walter - n " "" L. F. Dieringer - bniroyal, Inc* B.E. Carden - " R*C. Hunt - "* J.L. Mitchell - H.X. Porter Company,Inc. E.C* Bratt - " u" B.A. Farrell - Lake Asbestos of Quebec,Ltd. Rafael E. Arnal - llanufacturas Multiples S.A. (Caracas, Venezuela) Y* Sato - Nippon Asbestos Co.,Ltd. (USA representative) . skhkw llinutes This meeting was, in part, held as a joint committee meeting with the Environmental Health Committee. The meeting was opened with a brief review of some of the environmental protection equipment being used by some of our members. * . Hr. J.L. Rainey presented a paper entitled "Hoist Spinning Process'* written by Mr. J.W. Weber, Chairman of the Board, American Asbestos Textile Corporation. Mr. Rainey discussed the data in the paper which indicates that a stronger, more dust free yarn is obtained when moisture, in the form of water or an emulsion, is applied at the rub apron of the carding machine. While the process was developed prim arily for the purpose of reducing the atmospheric dust count on the delivery end of the carding machines (where the greater part of the card-tenders time is spentj it has been found that other advantages result in subsequent operations as explained in Hr. Weber*s paper which is included with those minutes. Committee members were most appreciative of Mr. Webers cooperation in supplying the results of his extensive experimental development work for the benefit of our industry.! Members desiring further information on this process may write direct to ilr.J.W.Weber, American Asbestos Textile Corporation, P.0. Box 220, Norristown,Pa. 194-04- (USA). Considerable time was spent in reviewing the Occupational Safety fic Health Act (OSHA) and the anticipated Emission Standards for asbestos soon to be established by the Environmental Protection Agency. Mr. Shockler urged that the ATI member companies undertake to collect industry plant data and employee data that would be helpful to AIA/KA in testifying before sub-committee hearings in Washington,L.C.. At the present time our industry, as such, lacks the facts to refute or challenge statements so adverse to asbestos that hav9 received such wide publicity in the last several years. It was therefore the joint recommendation of the Air Hygiene 0: jifg. and the Environmental Health Committees that the Institute establish a program to obtain '0 O Minutes - Air Hygiene h. Mfg. Committee - continued:- Pace -2- meaningful data for use in guiding national standards. It was sug gested that a start could be made by contacting Dr. Lewis J. Cralley, formerly in charge of Division of epidemiology & Special Services, USPHS, Dept, of HE1/, under whose supervision in-plant surveys of asbestos plants and employees were made by Federal authorities over a period of many years. Dr. Cralley is presently employed as a consultant to Marcus Key,II.D., Head of the National Institute of Occupational Safety & Health. It is hoped that the data now in the Dept, of HEW files can be released for possible benefit to the asbestos textile industry. Following the meeting, arrangements were made to ship the ATITs Bausch i: Loirib Dust Counter to the American Asbestos Textile Corp. plant at Norristown, ?a. It will be shipped from GARLOCK HIC. Respectfully submitted, . K.A. Roberts, Acting chairman 4KHHHHKHKKPKH* MOIST spihuhtg PROCESS by:- J.W. Weber Moisture is applied to roving at the rub-apron section of the carding machines. The moisture may be in the form of water or an emulsion. Sufficient moisture is added to increase bhe total water content of the roving to from 5> to 7 percent. Since the moisture is applied by the rub aprons to the fibers at the surface of the roving, this process is -particularly effective in preventing asbestos from flying off the roving and yarn during the following spinning, twist ing and winding operations. In relatively dry roving and yarn, the asbestos fibers adhering to the outside tend to becom airborne. The application of moisture to the outer surface of the roving also results in the retention of a relatively lofty yarn (which is desirable),rather than the creation of the condensed condition of an extruded yam. While the process has been developed primarily for the purpose of reducing the atmospheric dust count on the delivery end of the carding machines (where the greater part of the card-tender's time is spent), and in subsequent operations such as spinning, twisting, and winding, it has been found that this process imparts considerable strength to the roving and thereby results in greatly reduced roving breaks during spinning. Thi3 further reduces the dust count at the spinning frames, since broken ends on the bobbins raise a virtual dust storm. We have found further that, since the moist roving is in a somewhat more compact condition when being wound on the card spools, considerably moro yardage can be wound on spools of the same diameter than can be achieved with relatively dry roving. In order to determine the relative merits of moist vs relatively dry roving at the spinning operation, asbestos fiber counts were taken, results of which are indicated in the following table:- Uee _5nge 3) -u j Hinutea - Air Hygiene ft. Ilfg. Committee, continued: Pago -3- ASBESTOS FIBER COIF:ITS Moist vs Dry Roving FIBER COUNT Spindle Speed: 144-00 to 14.800 R?M 9/25/71 Hoist Roving, 13 Cut 9/25/71 Dry Roving, 13 Cut * Total j Longer than' Longer than , Fibers 5 Microns . 10 Microns - I - ..km- ,- J --VT II i : i 1I t i+.O i | 13.0 | 2*5 5.4 :,, * 1.8 j 3.8 j . Spindle Speed: 4800 RPM 9/28/71 Moist Roving, 13 Cut 9/28/71 Dry Roving, 13 Cut ' 7.5 I J 23.0 ; : 1 1.7 9.1 I 1.5 i 5.0 The spinning was performed on balloonless spinning frames operating normally between 4500 and 5400 spindle speed, depending on cut and quality of yarn. AMERICAN ASBESTOS TEXTILE CORPORATION (Signed) J.W, Weber Chairman of the Board OJ AS32ST0S TEXTILE INSTITUTE Minutes - ASBESTOS ADVISORY COMMITTEE meeting October 7# 1971 - Savannah, Ga. Minutes <****- The Asbestos Advisory Committee met with all member companies in attendance. The main topic of our discussions concerned the legislation which either has been promulgated, or which is pending, regarding the use in certain applications of asbestos products. We are aware of the instructions which the ilavy Department has . issued to its repair facilities regarding the use of asbestos textile products; and we are told that other, more stringent notices are awaiting issuance, 1 The impact and effect of these instructions, adverse to asbestos products, i3 severe, and they present us with a most frustrating situation. It is frustrating because wo are forced to continually maintain a defensive position -- and we have very little evidence at hand to refute the charges which are levelled at the use of asbestos products. . However, such evidence possibly does exist. Some seven years ago. Dr. Lewis J. Cralley of the Dept, of Health,Education c: Welfare, undertook a study of the asbestos textile industry in an effort to truly measure the health hazards involved in the manufacture of asbo3tos products. This study has never been completed, and only fragmentary reports have been issued. Accordingly, the Asbestos Advisory Committee lias requested that iir. C.L. Sheelder. Chairman of the ATI Environmental Health Comm ittee, meet with Dr. Cralley and try to obtain the following information (1) ^/hat is the exact status of the Cralley Report? (2) What can the ATI do to assist in completing it? (3) What are the future plans regarding the effective use of Dr. Cralley*s report once It is completed? In addition we have asked Mr. Sheckler to extend an invitation to Dr. Cralley to attend our next meeting which is to bo hold in Charleston, S.C. on February 2-3,1972. V/e look forward to the report of iir. Sheckler*s visit with Dr. Cralley with great interest.1 Respectfully submitted, E.A. Morris Chairman o MINUTES J TECHNICAL COMIITTEE In attendance: .Asbestos Textile Institute October 7# 1971 - Savannah, Ga. D.T. Austin,Jr. S.G. Dixit (Chairman) J.V:. Scherd J.W. Hawkins "W. Haaskant Uniroyal,Inc. Garlock Inc. H.N. Porter Company Raybestos-Hanhattan,Inc. American Asbestos Textile Corp . In addition, the following members of the Fiber Testing Committee -were present at the Joint meeting: D.E. Childers (Chairman), R.A. Snntze, and U.H. Smith. The following subjects were discussed;- '(1) ASTI? D 1118 - Magnetic Rating Standard .. The tenth draft was reviewed by the Joint committee. It was decided to recommend to ASTH that this standard be approved in the present form. ^ (2) ASTIl D 1573 - Heat Aging of Asbestos Textiles P.0, llicodemus, Chairman, Sub-Committee A-Ij., ASTIl has received verbal consent from Federal Government regarding dropping this standard in view of the difficulty involved in conducting heat aging tests that yield meaningful results. (3) ?1IL-I-I$3li-9C - Insulation Tape, Thermal A decision regarding removal of Amosite in the core material is to be conveyed to Naval ShiD Engineering Center. The thermal Insulation value, or "K factor1', has not been mentioned in the specification. However, all the committee members felt that it was not necessary that it be mentioned. The Chairman thanked all the members of the Technical and the Fiber Testing Committees for their excellent cooperation during his two-year term as chairman. Respectfully submitted. Sudhakar G. Dixit Chairman UJ ASBESTOS TEXTILE INSTITUTE Minutes - FI3ER TZSTHIG COMMITTEE October 7, 1971 - Savannah, Ga. In attendance: - Dewey E. Childers (Chairman)------- E.K. Porter Company Walter II. Smith --------- Bell Asbestos Mines,Limited C.E. Stiefken ------------- Lake Asbestos or Quebec,Ltd, R.A. Huntze ------------------- -- Cassiar Asbestos Corp.,Ltd. Minutes >jkhhj- A brier meeting was held with the Technical Committee to help review the 10th drart on AST1I D1118-57, Standard Method or Test Tor . Magnetic Rating or Asbestos used ror Electrical purposes. The Fiber Testing Committee discussed the revision or the manual "Testing Procedures ror Chrysotile Asbestos Fibre", noting that rormal approval or the project had now been given by QAKA. A number or changes and improvements have been rormalized by the Quebec Asbestos Mining Association, but the tests were not available ror review at this meeting. Since the October meeting the chairman has received ten (10) or the procedures rrom W.H. Foster, the chairman or QAiiArs Unirorm Classirication & Grading Committee.. Thus, in ramiliarizing ouselves with these changes, we can expect to have a considerable amount or work to do at the next several meetings. Some or the suggestions rrom QAilA pertaining tq the make up or the revised manual are:- (1) Those tests that are now in ASTM rormat should go in the revised manual in the ASTi-I rormat. (2) Those tests not yet in ASTM rormat would go in as now written so as not to delay the new edition too much. (3) The new manual should be in loose-lear rom. My chairmanship or the Fiber Testing Committoe during the past two years is now comoleted. I would like to express my aoprociation to all members ror their assistance during my term as chairman or the coimiittee. Respectrully submitted. Dewey E. Childers Chairman u MINUTES J TECHNICAL COMilITTEE In attendance: .Asbestos Textile Institute October 7 1971 - Savannah, Ga. - D.T. Austin,Jr. S.G. Dixit (Chairman) J*;:. Echerd J. V. Hawkins * V, Haaskant Uniroyal,Inc. Garlock Inc. H.K. Porter Company Rayb e s to s -rianha11an, Inc. American Asbestos Textile Corp. . In addition, the following members of the Fiber Testing Committee were present at the joint meeting: D.E. Childers (Chairman), R.A. Enntze, and V7.H. Smith. The following subjects were discussed;- (1) ASTI' D 1116 - Magnetic Rating Standard . The tenth draft was reviewed by the joint committee. It was decided to recommend to AST1-I that this standard be approved in the present form. ^ (2) ASTI1 D 1573 - Heat Aging of Asbestos Textiles P.0. Hicodemus, Chairman, Sub-Committee A-ij., ASTII has received verbal consent from Federal Government regarding dropping this standard in view of the difficulty involved in conducting heat aging tests that yield meaningful results. (3) I1IL-I-153U9C - Insulation Tape, Thermal A decision regarding removal of Amosite in the core material is to be conveyed to Naval Ship Engineering Center. The thermal insulation value, or "K factor11, has not been mentioned in the specification. However, all the committee members felt that it was not necessary that it be mentioned. The Chairman thanked all the members of the Technical and the Fiber Testing Committees for their excellent cooperation during his two-year term as chairman. Respectfully submitted. Sudhakar G. Dixit Chairman uJ AS32ST0S TEXTILE HTSTITUT2 Minutes - FI3ER TESTHIG COMMITTEE October 7, 1971 - Savannah, Ga. In attendance: - Dewey 2. Childers (Chairman)------- II.K. Porter Company Walter II. Smith --------- Bell Asbestos Mines,Limited C.E. Stiefken ----- ----------Lake Asbestos of (Quebec,Ltd. R.A. Kuntze ----------- -------- Cassiar Asbestos Corp.,Ltd. Minutes ikkkh*' A brief meeting was held with the Technical Committee to help review the 10th draft on ASTI-2 D1118-57, Standard Method of Test for . Magnetic Rating of Asbestos used, for Electrical purposes. The Fiber Testing Committee discussed the revision of the manual "Testing Procedures for Chrysotile Asbestos Fibre", noting that formal approval of the project had now been given by QAMA. A number of changes and improvements have been formalized by the Quebec Asbestos Mining Association, but the tests were not available for review at this meeting. Since the October meeting the chairman has received ten (10) of the procedures from W.H. Foster, the chairman of QAiiA^s Uniform Classification L Grading Committee.. Thus, in familiarizing ouselves with these changes, we can expect to have a considerable amount of work to do at the next several meetings. Some of the suggestions from QAiIA pertaining to the make up of the revised manual are:- (1) Those tests that are now in ASTtf format should go in the revised manual in the ASTil format. (2) Those tests not yet in ASTli format would go in as now written so as not to delay the new edition too much. (3) The new manual should be In loose-leaf form. My chairmanship of the Fiber Testing Committee during the past two years is now completed. I would like to express my aoprociation to all members for their assistance during my term as chairman of the committee. Respectfully submitted. Dewey E. Childers Chairman