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FILE NAME: ZWZZZW DATE: DOC#: W OCUMENT DESCRIPTION: WDDZZZ - CO, Y ., 0 R JI' INITIALS D~B~O{X)~/~(iff '- c SEGMENT NO. .-C- j3REOUESTING PARTY NOT E S O,TE <f1~ ~1~11//1f--:? C;~~//~11'-/~4~~~~~ .... /?6cr '\ !/ " ! o 'j 1_o "<' 1\ \ \ ~A \ \. H N 5 -MANVILLE I ':( SALES CORPORATION ',; \ I.' ,/' 22 E, 40th STREET' ,~. :' NEW YORK. N, y, 10,0. 16 TELEPHONE: 532,7600 AREA CODE 212 May 29, 1968 TO DIRECTORS MINERAL FIBER (J1 A .H. Fay Pres~ dent ) PRODUCTS BUREAU Nat~. ona 1 Gypsum com?an~ Ir~t(rJ ~ "1"\ t1"" !, "- '. :" , '\ 6P ,__ W',,',A - . J~ J.G. Hall .' Vice president) GAF Corporation - ~ -!Ji? ~'p'J .D. Moran'- Flintkote Co~pany b}....r.> "lY\r~ :\: .. n ~\JLA. F .K. Sweeney GAF Corporatwn ......tt..~_)\v..'\ ~.j/J.:\..~ 1(...1. Or! J.H. Davies V/'-S-)Atlantic Asphalt & Asbestbs, Inc . .::...C,_~~_{@ . i./~\(I\.. B.M. Walls - Counsel & Secretary Davies, Hardy, Loeb, Austin & Ives ........ ,1lC<: c {tv,S,', TO ASBESTOS BUILDING PRODUCTS MANUFACTURERS ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH COUNCIL - . C.L. Sheckler - Chairman J-M ,.fQ,;j- Albert Alpine Harry MessIer ...J&!m-Tuffy Certain- teed Products C9r P., 'It J; GAF Corporation - S"r-~,'.. O,.!,~~f,,~,,; 6 :E:-lAntkotc-Company- . "y'P.J4.. .-)f(v", Ffank Zimmerman W::J->-I. (::J"Lf..,/Y TO OTHERS J. W. Duncan M.S. Davis National Gypsum Company,,' -1:n.l,.. . ,d,~'.";..~ - S"' (tf;j::;~)"..A.1 National Gypsum ~ Company .- fP5"'}"(f"I!"...r;\- "' . Certain-teed Products Corp.C;"),"..XI... ..~t IIv,.. '-"~. ,F.E. Dutcher J-M --F.J. Solon J-M. W.P.Raines J-M Gentlemen: Subject: Seminar on Asbestos Environmental Control This will serve as confirmation of meeting to be held in the Johns-Manville Board Room on the 11th floor, 22 East 40th Street at 10 A.M. Monday, June 17 \-lith luncheon in the Board Room at 12:30. The meeting will run from 10 A.M. to 12:15 and from 1:30 to 3 P.M. The meeting is under the auspices of the Mineral Fiber Products Bureau and the purpose is to determine any appropriate future series of actions by the Mineral Fiber Products Bureau. Because of space limitations, the meeting must be restricted to those to 'vhom this is addressed, all of whom have i.ndicated their' ability to be present. In order to prepare you for this meeting, I am attaching the Johns-Nanville position paper on this subject; also two pamphlets issued by the National Insulation Manufacturers Association on HRecommended Health Safety Practices for Handling and Applying Thermal Insulation Products Containing Asbestos H and H(the same ... Containing Mineral Fibers H. Very JUlY yours> ECC:sm Edw..l'~<~erny, Jr. (Treasurer, HFPB) Vice President and Hercliandising H.:tnager Residcntinl and Conullcrcial Products BU1 LDING AND FLOORING NATE1GAI.S DIVl SIONS PHILIF' S.AGAR eEANAAO M.AI..THor,. ..JOHN K.ARMSTRONO CYRUS AUSTIN OSCAR M. flATE ,.. MARTIN GOWN. WILL-lAM A. eO'fLAN JOHN W.OURt\E JOS(P"'I W. OURNS ,",OHN K. CA"HO~L S.OARTON CHURCHIL.L. ,JOHN A.CL-ARK ,JOHN P. CUOOAHY .JUL,.IN T. OAVIES JOHN .J.OO/".;OVAN KENNETH W. GREENAWA\.T CECIL L. HEAO HRBEAT A. HE.E:RWAGEN CHARLES' L. HERTERICH OltFlMOO IVES FlOSERT E. LAWTHER I'<OBE"T C.LOEB RAYMONO T. MUNSELL WILL.lAM T. PULLMAN BLACKWELL SMITH AOBERT O.TAISE:Y BR.AOL!:Y WALI... S MARVIN T. YOUNG PAVIES,HARDY. LOEB,AUSTIN Se ( ( I DAV, -OEO ES, , CH HARDY URCHil.. eo L. e.S C i. H A ENCK) WTHER ) (AUSTIN, fJURNS. SMITH e. WALLS) MIDTOWN OF"f"lCE 535 FIFTH AVENUE NEW Y 0 R K, N. Y. I 0017 .. ,'1 ~ {:~\t:..,.~~:-j " I""+~ I r J . ' (\.:. t',. /' ./ IVES"r'-.~ -~ I" _ . ,( " \:.~: f\' '. I, t . I: /~~~'-.' T~'CPHO N~ (, 12) _ ... _. 0 .. 0' \;.. ~~ ~_ ~_~ CABLe AODRESS "OVEROAR!;' TWO BROAOWAV NEW YORK, N. Y. 10004 JUa.,e 28) 1968 TO DL'i\.ECTORS l1nmRAL FIEER PRODUCTS BUREAU A. H. Fay - President - J. G. Hall Vice President - E. C. Cerny, Jr. Treasurer J. D. !1oran F. 1(. S,..;ceney J. H. Davies National Gl~sum Company G.t\F Corporation J ohns-l1anville Flintkote Company G..~ Corpora.tion Atlantic Asphalt &Asbestos, Inc. TO ASBESTOS BUILDING PRODUCTS HANUFACTlr.?.ERS ENVIROrxllENTAL HEALTH COUNCIL C. L. Shec1der A1be:-t: Alpine Harry Hassler Halter IC-Tlorr Frank Zir;:;:r.::;rrcnn Chairman J ohns-!bnville Certain-teed Products Corp. GAF Corporation Flintkote Com?any National Gypsum Company TO OTH"SR GUESTS J. H. DUrlcan M. S. Dcvis F. E. Dutcher F. J. Solon vI. P. Raines N~tional Gypsum Company Certain-teed Products Corp. J ohns"H:mville J ohns-Hanville J o~,s-Hanvi11e For your inforn~tio~ and files, 1 enclose a copy of the Minutes of the seminar on c~bestos environ~2ntal co~trol held in the J oh..Tls"H3.uville B02rd Roo~ on June 17, 1968. BE':,]: lz Enc. Yours si..'1ceraly, t . - ''f')/ l \(I. -; 1 __ C( 1, I / .l/A. \~ .i I.. . . l,/\,,..'ll.1.c.,/../] ... C'" . ' \,,: ; Minutes of Neeting of Board of Directors of Mineral Fiber Products Bureau June 17, 1968 A meetingaouf,,,tahsecBalolaerdd aoft DthiereicntovristaotifontheofMJionhenrsa-l FMiabnevrilPlerot dcuncdts"1Basurheeld in J ohns-Hanville I s Board Room at 22 East L.~Oth Street, Nmv York, New York, on June 17, 1968 at 10 A.H. The follmving 'vare present representing Hineral Fiber Products Bureau: - A. H. Fay President J. G. Hall - Vice President J. D. H07ran E. c. Cerny F. K. S,\jeeney J. H. Davies - B. M. ~]alls Counsel & Secretary National Gypsum Company GAF Corporetion Flintkote Company . Johns-!-ienville GAF Corporation Atlantic Aophalt &Asbestos, Inc. Davies, Hardy, Loeb, Austin & Ives The follmving ,:rere in attendance representing the Asbestos Building Products l1.anufacturers Environro~ntal Health Council: C. L. Sheckler Albert Alpine Harry N~ssler \\Telter Knorr Frank Zin::nerrean Chairroa.n J ohns-a!lnville Certain-teed Products Corp. GAP Corporation FlintkoteCou:pany National Gypsum Company Additional guests included: J. vI. Duncan H. s. Davis F. E. Dutch8r F. J. Solon vI. P. Raines National GypSlli~ Company Certain-teed Products Corp. Johns-l{anville Johns-Hanville Johns-Hanville The meeting ,]hich had bec;;n called to p7resent a report by the Health Asbestos Building Products l'~:~nufacturers E:nviroThl.ental Council to the Boc.rd of Dir~cto:cs of Biner",l Fiber Products Burea.u ~}~S operled with re~:cks of \.;~lCOB~ from Hr. Cerny of - 2- " Joh.'1s-1bnville. Hr. Fay, the President of liincrel Fiber Products Bureau, chaired the meeting and acknoi-lledged with thanks J-H's arranging this presentation of envirom:iental health problems. Mr. Fay called upon Hessrs. Solon, Reines and Sheck1er of J-M to present their report. }~r. Solon reported J-1-1' s finding to date of occupational problems conce~ned 'vith asbestos building products and noted that the dosage of dust from such products and the time of exposure to such dusts "7~re related. He stated~ ho\vever, that J-H had not discovered any risk to the gencTa1 public at large from asbestos building products. He reported that J-1-1 retains public relations counsel exclusively for health matters. The firm retained is Hill and Knov7lton, ~;r~10 also represent the British Asbestos interests in the field of public health. l1r. Solon exp1cincd th~t the British are considerably in advance of the Am8ricens in the matter of asbestos and health control. J-M is cooperating withfue British and is clavaloping a librery of info!"ri!..Stion end is w'il1ing to cooperate 'tvith others C!:1. this subjc;;ct. In response to a question, Hr-. Solon r.oted th3.t J-1:'1 did not participate directly in the Congressional hearings held to date on the Occupational Health ~nd Safety Act of 1968 (Th~ 14816 end S. 2864). There v7as SOl"ae discussi.9n,o the H~alth and Safety Act of 1968 and it 'va.s noted by 11-r. Sh~cl::1~r that the Bill in its present bro~d form does not provide for the obligct5.ons of 't\7orkers as "7811 as of eLlployers in the entire aree of occupational health and safety. The Bill in its present form also raises questio~s of iuterfc-rence by the federal gover~~8nt ~vith the police 'tv~lf2re and safety pm7..::rs of the states. 1:!'. Sheckle.: noted the position of Dr. 1. J. Selikoff of Hount Sinai Hospital, Ne\'] Yo:.-l~~ in testifying in SUp?o;:t of the Bill on behalf of the . heat, frost and asbestos "70rkeY"s p tr:nt thernul insulc.tion contracto~s are too smn11 to hel~ themselves and th~t federal legislatioa is necess~ry in occupational health areas. It \<7'::'5 noted that an insulation industry hygiene cou:1cil j.3 to be establihed ~qith a budget of appro:~i~tely $1 million to be expended ovar a period of five ye2rs and "Jl1ich ~.;ill initially focus on p::obl~1!ls in the thermal insulation field. .' - 3 - An audio-visual presentation ~;ras made by Ya-. Raines indicating the c}:::tent of public concern already e}~pressed in television nCHS reports and in neHspaper end reedical journals about the he~lth hazards of asbestos building products. Hr. Shecklcr discusned the mornl and legal aspects of the problem of occupational health hazards. He noted th~t frequently Horlcrr.en I s Co:~pensation cases have been the custOlTl.n.ry routine pursued ~.;hen Occup.::ltioI1al illnesses arose. He noted, ho,\vcver, th~t third party suits in negligence agninst manufacturers \.7hich are outside of Uorl~;en I s Compensation cases are becow:tr:g increasingly popular.' SOrt3 such negligence suits have been for &s much as $750,000. Already SO~3 products such as insulation, are being lCl.beled ~vith cc:utionsry advice. It ~'1as noted that as yet no attack has been rr:.ade by labOi: unions against eIT:ployers in their 't'Jagc nego~i~tions on the ba~ds th:-~t their em?loyees nre involV(~d -_tu. e .... ... 4~t...t.,.c~..'.:,. -l,~......... ","~""".. a'ou'"U o"""'"ct!"&.'J"~'..-.. ion.. s r.;!'.\L1~'"-""_'re h~ "'C.....', b e "'"'"' u ""ovc'--:>n sc~1'1.."_~.. "... _J. i"-'" by the unions to insist upon a. cont:..ibutioli. from ms:m~ers in the amount of $025 per month per ~u fo~ payment into u health fund. Presusably these contributions are passed on as negotiated v7,::ge increase:::. Studies fJ2.de h.!lV3 indicated th~t insulation ,;oT!~ers on the aV8Z'age e:~perienci3 pul:,:or...::.ry dise.:1se at the rate oi: 25/:> to 30%. These d5.se~scs are believed to be cc:upatible ~'lith their occupation of being exposed to insulct io;.1 0 It Has noted that the figure givcu is an average and th~t the greater amount of exposure c.::d grca:.:er tir;:3 of exposuTe r~sulted in an exploding gr.;:ph of pulr::onary disease an:o~'!g insulation 't><orkcrs. It W3S noted t~t the United States Public He~lth Se~vice's theory is that ~~b~stos fibcrs ~bGorb trace ~etcls such as n:!.c:~el) cobelt and chro~-:.:;! n",!d lJCteU these fibe:.-s lodge in th::! ll.~::;::::':1 lU::1g, these ti.:cce rt..3t:.:.ls rCL::.lin there. Dr. 1. J. Selilwf; s the~ry noted thst bro... ,- ':n ... ~ _J. .. 0 0 '7 '"-'.-..-,-7- C c~~_7"...c...,..'..;.)- r <~:.r:. 'l .o'7"!.l... v<:"1 he t'heo-,...iz""'c ... ,... "'''''be''7'oC .C.....". _-_,.-..1J~,\",."_o ~l-.Irr.~".~."~~ '-'foI"_-\,o;.;., L L" tt-","._"..,:..,1,. .~;:,..,... '_1<.:'.:."0 ,-.... ._; 0''..'1 ' "~,TOJ.l"r"0"'..'.. S J.._~l..:;rI;I ~}, ~.L;,;.. ... I.- C-t.:> \.:)- C) ....j.."~, there is no ~,]ho do ~.. o t a t._ ""_ rRet of nico~i-:-.2S 2nd t~rs. Insul.::tion uo:-!~ers \7ho s:r.;)!~e arc much rLore li~ble to contr2ct bro~chogcnic di~czse. - l~ .. -- It '\-las Hr. Sheckler' s feeling that although SOlil~ scientists and reporters m~y seem to promote undue publicity of the heelth hazard and thus demonstrate considerable irresponsibility, Dr. Selikoff t S ,\-]Ork is highly regarded today. Dr. Selikoff himself has a formidable reputa.tion as a scientist. Hr. Sheckler indicated that in his opinion the risk of dise~se is greater in the asbestos ceIT;~nt ~3nufacturing operations than in insulation m3nuf~cturing operations. He believes that the presence of silica together with asbestos in csbestos cement products adds greater hazard than that found in the insulation function. It '\'1,as indicated that the ne'\v insulation industry hygiene council will conduct studies l>lith Cl vieiJ to p::otect asbestos \'10rkers in the following areas: 1. identificction of dust sou~ces; 2. prev8ntion of dust forreation; 3. resovel of dust; 4,-. protective tI'2sks; 5. housekeeping pre.ctices; 6. establishment of surveillance procedures: (a) dust levels; (b) u2terial studied; and (c) t~ade practices. 7. Ecclical surveillance; 8 c~garet , . smo~Lng. It is enticipated that e scientific ~dviso~y co~~~ittee 3.y be ep:jointec1 to th3 IUle. Su.ch a co:rmittee would probably Gedical doctors scientists, such incl~~8 fo~~ o~ 1.., DY_' '"' _:;,... ul-l=w"-L.,;2-.,.,.....'.;.".l_G.~ (~_.,....,._;ur.1~"..",",,-~, 01- 0001- s ... ) G'''o'~ --:'> T1.T.j-~"j'OoLh'~- , D--:- n,. (?rof=-:>rC"o..,. L)u'ol';c .J.. ._h'r':-.~..._.._.;cO-.J _ _""",, ... _... _ 1.1....t-:;>;"..",,1.... -h J1..1 a"I.. H~...~..vJ.'. ='0';'<_'G]') , es D~. E. K. Se1';...".o" f=..Y.....:. , Dr '1/,,:_:.O1'..~V'~_'L-1 Ku~h:-::8!" (c,:::~cG.r researche.: at l'TiU). In eddition, J-H r.-:.2.y provic2 ~ss~stanc3 in the ercs of engineering and r3se~rch for a li,"Jited ';:~~:OU:1t of tirr:3. It is elco exp2cted th.at the U. S. Public H2lth Se~vice and the United States Bureau of l,:ines 't7ill sit in on ';::he scientific c02..l1ittce. The Ne't'l York AC2.dc.'Wy of SciS:::C88 't7ill be the sponsor of the IIl-lC 2.nd its n:8etir:.gs 'tlill be h.;:'d t~e:cc. . To illustr2te thei=0"o~tence of the oroblem, l~. Shackler repo::ted t~1<:1t !:.-uny ye.3rs ago th~ p.s":3:cica~ Conference of GOV8:cn- IIl~ntal Inc.ustrial Hygienists held th2.t the ~'<"\}dmum .;::.llo':oJ.::.ble - 5- amount of dust in th~ air should be 5.0 million particles per cubic foot. It is e}cpected that this figure \'7ill be revised to a m.::ximum allmvzble of 2.0 million particles per cubic foot. In situEtions presently e:-:isting 'tdth what is believed to be good dust control!) Nr. Sheck1er has observed the 0110\07ing concentrations of dust e:-:pressed in millions per cubic foot in the vicinity of the fo11m'ling machines: radial sm>1 skil Sa\v (\vith exhaust) monolithic sa'\v s't'ling sa'H band saH edge trimmer lathes (gen~rally high) 12.2 18.2 5.3 6.6 8.0 14.0 It "':2S noted that m2.sks in corr=non UDe ere ap;>ro:t::!.rr.s.tcly only 35% effective and that the health problem being studied does not occu~ as m.uch in the i"i!iniEg opera.tions of esbestoz as it does in the milling and processing. After lunch, the meeting considered the role of the HineT[.'.l Fiber Products Bureau in this expanding study of environmental h~.::.lth. Con.sideration \'1.:2S giv;:;!n to a redefinition of pm:pos8s of the HFPB and the possible c:::cation of a health and safety co~nittee. 111:". Sheckler felt that the HFPB could be of gre~t v2lue in d~aling with fabricators and contractors in meeting \vith thCIil .::nd tall;:ing v7:!.th them abo~t the problem. So:r.e discussion \-7.:15 held 0:1 the aclvl.s.nbility of focusing studies O:"i.. the m:::.nu:Cz.cturing and hc!T!dling of asbestos ccr;:~nt p::."0d't.:cts. This study \'lOuld be of ir!.tern3l operations ar:d uould 1..r:C."l..,t.":(;2 '- e::cI!.:::ng~ 0 f :.i.mc.:o::r.~L....1.0~1 ar.:ong . u~:lnmc:ac t urers. -i,n s.dO":L.tior:.;> it \'728 believ2d thc.t stUGY should focus u?on exte::n~l o?(;::2'tiv::-~s c:r!c. the relatio;:lships bet't'J83n the mnnufacturers and . It \~s th~ consensus that the first point should be an app:c.s.::'s.:::l 't-7ithin th3 industry of t1":.8 gravity of the situ.:.tion and th::t c':::b~rldng upon extensiv~ p":'l'wlic relations) govcrm.:~nt reports and d1sse~inction of bookl~ts to the trade about health - 6- .' safety p~2ctices should be don~ after full consider~tion and unders tel.:.ding ,vithin the indu;;try of problems peculiat" to nsbestos building products. Mr. Fey sunu..::~rized discussion by stating th.:lt the l-iFPB ~;ould conside:: a change of its n.:lr:!e to its fo:crr.:;r 1127:':3) Asbestos-Ce!.1:ent Products Association; that it "iould consider appointD:2ut of a health and s.:lfety corr~ittee; that it ,-jould revim; its curren~ purposes and c.fc:?lify end revise them; that it \:ould develop a plan to eacourage <2sbestos cerr.e.nt producers of p~CGucts to join that con~ittee insofar as those activities releted to the needs of other ~Sb8stos cem3nt !l'.anufacturers. ~tro Fay felt that the draft psmphlet on reco~~3nded health safety p::2ctices for lulndling and epplying health products be defe:::-r0d in publication until all m:;.nbers of the Bureau had amp~'I. G Oppo~tlli'~ty to cons~.a,er t he b oo'~1et. H:--. Sheckler Cs present cC:-.:::1itt:e ,dll re!X'!.in int2ct and h:.s [lg::eed to del.sy thz publica-::ion of the Health Sa.fety boo~dct fo:: tl period of si.xty d.::ys pending fut"the:c discus;;ion of this r:..:ltter. Conveying the thanks of the l1FPB to J -1-1 end the particip.:::nts in the seminar) Hr. Fey adj ourned the. tr,2eting at 3 P 0 1~1~ Respectfully submitted, /) 1/.-. ."',. Il-,..' //.,,1.;, ..... / \, ... J I" . ':- {".,.,. . : . ' I '-, / i.::'.',",/ r l .. l.... ,', '" ~.~ -' / ~..-...~ r-''.'..'.. F.J. Solon - 12 W.P. Raines - 12 C.L. SheckJer - Finderne Division Headquarters June 18,' 1968. cc: F.E. Dutcher - 11 M.F. MacDonald - 7 Seminar on Asbestos Environmental Control This is a brief summary of the results of the meeting held in the J-M Board Room on June 17 with the Directors of the Mineral Fiber Products Bureau and the group kno\ffi as the Asbestos Building Products Manufacturers Environmental Health Council: 1. There was unanimous approval and expression of appreciation for the fine presentation by Messrs. Solon, Raines and Sheckler. 2. While some had an intimation of the problem, most were unaware of the severe involvement they may have with this potential health problem, and the meeting served to open their eyes. 3. Actions planned by the Mineral Fiber Products Bureau: a. The name has been changed back to the Asbestos-Cement Products Association. b. A "Health and Safety Council" has been formed which will operate as a separate organization within and under the auspices of the ACPA. c. The Health and Safety Council will operate with broad objectives to bring both plant processing and field applications of asbestos-cement products within satisfactory health and safety limits. The most immediate objective will be approval and/or modification of the draft on "Recommended Health Safety Practices for Handling and Applying Asbestos-Cement Products" as prepared under the auspices of Cliff Sheckler and his Council. This may be distributed initially only to fabricators \o7ho have similar conditions to the manufacturers of asbestos-cement. Then field studies will probably be initiated to determine the extent of asbestos dust concentration in field applications of various types of asbestos-cement materials with the ultimate objective of setting safety standards where these are needed. d. Invitations to join the Council will be extended to manufacturers of asbestoscement products who are not now members of the ACPA; viz.: Carey, Supradur, USG, Certain-teed, Wood\Vard Iron. There \.,i11 be a nominal initiation fee of $50. e. In order to put across to these organizations not represented at the meeting on June 17 the need for the Health and Safety Council, an identical presentation is planned for July 9, 15, or 17 from 10:30 to noon follo\Ved by luncheon. In addition to the proposed ne\V members, it \Vas requested by Messrs. Moran and S\Veeney that invitations to attend be extended by them to Messrs. Pecaro and O'Leary, \Vho (they are sure) are just not a\Vare of the problem. f. President Al Fay is making the arrangements for the date and the invitations. f When this is settled, we will have to zero in on the best place for this meeting. If held on the 15th, we will use the Large Board Room. If on the 9th or 17th, probably at the Union League Club. y Elfijrn General Headquarters June 19, 1968 C. B. Burnett Results of Joint Meeting Directors of Mineral Fiber Products Bureau and Asbestos Building Products Manufacturers' Environmental Health Council (Cliff Sheck1er's Group) Ed Cerny hosted meeting. Al Fay of National Gypsum chaired. Solon-Raines presented audio-visual on asbestos-health. Went well. Many present surprised at seriousness of problem. Sheckler presented results of his committee's work. Lively discussion followed. We and Sheckler group left room so ~~PB Directors could have formal meeting. They decided: 1) To change their name from Mineral Fiber Products Bureau to Asbestos Cement Products Association. 2} To form a Health and Safety Council of ACPA. 3) To invite present non-members to join either the Association or the Council alone. Latter at about $50/year dues. 4} Al Fay of National Gypsum planning a July meeting, will invite George Pecaro, Tim O'Leary and officials of such companies as Carey, U.S.Gypsum, Certain-teed, Woodward Iron - to get them to join. He has asked us to put on the same presentation. 5) ACPA Boards wants to cooperate in getting out the booklet for construction workers in 60-90 days. However, they want to limit -distribution to contractors who have workers fabricating Ale products in confined areas. This will take care of National Gyp's objection that wholesale distribution would "Scare h--- out of everybody!" I'd say that at the moment everything is going along well . cc-C. L. Sheckler, Finderne ..,. F. J. Solon, Jr. ..~~~ /< .... . , ATTENDEES .0 DIRECTORS MINERAL FIBER PRODUCTS BUREAU A.H. J.G. J.D. F.R. J.H. B.M. Fay (President) Hall (Vice President) Moran Sweeney Davies Walls VP - Marketing, National Sypsum Company BP Division Mgr. - GAF Corporation BP Divisions Mgr. - Flintkote Company Gen.Mgr.Ruberoid Div. - GAF Corporation President - Atlantic Asphalt & Asbestos, Inc. 'Counsel & Secy.- Davies, Hardy,Loeb,Austin & Ives ASBESTOS BUILDING PRODUCTS MANUFACTURERS ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH COUNCIL ----------------------------------------- AC.lLb.erSt hAeclpkilneer - C.' hairman . J-M certain-teed Products Corp. Harry MessIer Safety Director - GAF Corporation Frank Zimmerman National Gypsum Company WaIter Knorr safety Director - Flintkote Company J.W. M.S. F.E. F.J. W.P. Duncan Davis Dutcher Solon, Jr. Raines VP Sales - National Gypsum Company Gen.Prod.Mgr. - Certain-teed Products J-M J-M J-M Corp. . , lOOM 2300 535 FIFTH AVENUE NEW YORK. NEW YORK 10017 , ,~," ',: June 19, 1968 .' ~ / : .. I A. :.. ," TO: Hessrs. H. Fay '-: I ' . , II ,,' J. G. Hall J. Horan -.' F. K. Sl'leeney . J. H. Davies E. C. Cerny Gentlcrcen: ',. : -' tJ!.I./~~ 1 enclose Cl rough first draft of a set of By.,LQ,\;J . 7}U for the proposed Health and Safety Council of tho Il.obcntos.. ," .' '. .,C;Je1~n_:Eet~n_t.!?P.Yr~o1:d4,uF~c_t_4st:A_ysJ)sJo],cki-agt~iro!n!..~t:.l.1~~~_~..v.1e_~~hc:w~.c~.y~__o_.P.luL!:..~.h.:..~t~h_c.l1P~.h2t1~J..-tc~b~oiu:c....4_1lI~ 4&-' /' of oemi-finsl draft can be put into the h::mda of prOG1~'ocC:~t..-.3 0', {,; '. tn2n:DCrS of the Council before our July m~cting. 1'.0 r c::- '.- p1aiu3d to you, 1 am trying to imitate the ElrrEln[Sc:-.:::mt " created by the Asphalt Roofing lbnufacturers Associntion fc? its Western and Southern Co~ittees, both of which ~~vc m2~bers who are not meEhers of the Association. 1 feel that it is important that the Health and I Safety Council should operate under the orgnnizatio~~l urr.brella and the legal setup of the A-CPA. Aside fro:'J th3 ~ I obvious benefits of being an arm of an establish3d orgnnl~n tion, this arrangem8nt would insure the tax deductibility' of I contributions to the Council. 1 :j i Bt1W: lz j Encs. f ...I .' , ~ DRAFT If 1 JUNE, 1968 BY-LAWS of the .1 _ HEALTH & SAFETY COUNCIL , - ,. of the ASBESTOS-CEMENT PRODUCTS ASSOCIATION ARTICLE I - NAME. , . I The name of this organization shall be the Health & Safety Council of the Asbestos-Cement Products Association. ! r j- - - -. - A.TtTICLE I I PURPOSES. j t 1. The Council is the official channel of the Asbestos- CQu:~nt Products Association for the exploration, developII2nt, study. coordination, collaboration, pro~otion and publication of health and safety programs related to the asbestos-cement industry and asbestos-cement products. 2. The Council shall ipitiate, develop and direct studies and public relations programs designed la\~fully to promote cnd foster health and safety policies and programs for the asbestoscc~ent industry as w~ll tend, (a) To appraise and resolve health and safety problems peculiar to the asbestos-cement industry for manufacturers of asbestos- cement products; and (b) To assist fabricators and-users of asbestos G cement products in their health and safety programs; and .' ........& _ ~ ........... . ....... -.~ _ l: ... .. ~ " ~ . '. 2 - (c) To cooperate with other groups, governmental or private, studying and ~eporting on health and safety problems of the asbestos- cement industry. 3. This organization is not orgnnized for pecuniary profit . ARTICLE III .. MEMBERSHIP, Asbestos-Cement Products Association Hembers Members of the Asbestos-Cement Products Association are eligible for appointment by the Board of Directors of A-crA for n:.embership in the Council. Each llosocintion tt.en:.ber luvinz representation on the Council may have only on2 official C o u n c il . . ' ... m2rrher uho may designate an alternate to function in his otcud \ih.en occasion may require. Non..Asbestos-Cemznt Producto Asoociation l1eu:bc:ro Those individuals, partnerohips and corporations who ~~u~~ facture asbestos-cement products, but are not me~erG of h-CP~ may be appointed to membership in the Council by the BO.:lrd of Di1'ectoxs of A-CPA upon payment of an initiation fee of $50 to th.2 Council. ", ..'..... .' . -" ", .'.' ~. . '. .. :, (a) Hetrbership in the Council shal.l not be conotru3a to entitle non-lLembe.rs of A-CPA any of the rights cnd privileges concomitant with m2mbership in the A-CPA. ,." ~ . ~ , , I .i. : '; ; " j ;,- 1 .. 0: .... L '~- ! : .,:, ~ ';,' '.t 3 . ,'~ .(b) The Board of Directors reserves\'the right to . . ". ,,-, terminate any 'membership l.n the Counc il without ,. , cause. '.:. ," . (c) Any member of the Council may resign his Council membership at any time by giving Written notice ..: I 'of resignatlon to the President of A-CPA, but' ,shall not be entitled to any refund of volm'1tnry contributions theretofore made to th~ funds of -' the Council. ~TICLE IV - }ffiETINGS. " 1. ,Meetings of the Council shall be called by the President of the Council, a majority of the ~rnbers of the Council or by the Preoident of , A-CPA. 2. Notices of Heetings shall be issued to CO;:;:.:;littcc members only from the offices of the AMCPA, and each such notice shall be llccorr.panied by a lrrittc:u agenda detailing the subjects to be considered, and no subjects not on the agenda shall CO~3 before the Meeting. lillTICLS V - OFFICERS. The Council shall elect annually from ita members a Prcoi6cnt and a Vice-President who shall serve until the next annual elcction or until their successors shall have duly qualified. 4 - The Secretary of A-CPA shall nct as Secretary of the Council and the Treasurer of the Council shall he the Treasurer of A-CPA. .ARTICLE VI - MINUTES . . Minutes of all Council proceedings shall be duly kept, reviewed by legal counsel of A-CPA, and distributed to all Council m~mbers as well as to ~bers of the Board of Directors of A-CPh when legal counsel shall so advise ARTICLE VII- - C,oUNCIL FUNDS. The funds of the Council, together wi.th recorda of rcccipto and diabursements thercfrom, BMll be kept separate frow tho funds of A-CPA. Council funds will derive fro~ voluntary coutributiollG that may be made by A-CPA tn2\1lbcrs, Non~_ ACPA ~~Cl"O, llnd concerns \iho sell materials used in the manufactw:c of GGbCDtocce~nt products. The amounts and methods of contributing 011211 be 0.0 determined by each individ~l contributor . ARTICLE VIII - REVJ.EH. All policies and programs of the Council are subject to revicu by the Board of Directors. 'of A-CPA and by A-CPt.. legel coun:::cl. 1 i I .J t!:.TITrClE L,{ - /~EENrr.lENTS. ~ The Council m3y propose a~anclcants to these By-La~J ao 1 ~tpericnce ~y 6uggest to the Board of Directors of A-CPA for approval or disapproval of. all proposed amandments to these By-Lm:~. ! .] ,,0 .1 ..~ 5 - c I ARTICLE X DISSOLUTION. 1. The Council may be' dissolved by the vote or written . consent of two-thirds of the Council or by resolution of the , Board of Directors of A-CPA. 2. In the event of the dissolution of the Council.each ., m~tr.ber thereof at the time of such didsolution shall be entitled to a refund from the net assets of the Council according to Gcch H~mbcrts total contributiono to th~ Council. . i "j . ~ ", c ...... - - V ~l ....... 1 -1.--r;""r~--l" ... ,- 1 A T -~- . - . Endt'or;L.~~.ntlll Control D~i>urt:I;:';mt Rcs<!erch (~ 1~tlg1.r,cct'1!~t Ccnt~r June 20, 19~6 . E. C. Cerny ImQ tell'iluar (\n Ar:besto~-C()r.1~nt :r1vf.tt.'lltl'.lCntal Control ='cur 1;::. t"} ~~.!.t..-.::J:.:.9...;;(',;;.8_ _ _ _ _ __ On b~half of our J-U Env1roolG"t,,1 Cont::ol f:cpm.toent ~md cur Ar.b~ctc-c ruUci1n3 ProCu::tt H~n\:)factll\'('rtl r:~wironi':~;mtnl Hoal th CClIl1cil, I w1ch to th4nk you iar Drr~nt;1tlg the H?0til'g of June 17 I 19(:8. 1 \.'tl& ec!"cc1 till>" r1(lt'lf.!ecl '11th your repot't c! tha ~ct1on to~en by th~ t1Frn 3csrti . of D'rccto!~ co~c~~nlo3 their dc~1re to pur=ue health soiety practice" both tn canuDctu"'b!~ end iabriclltioo-a;>pl1cf.iUC::l. j,r, 1nd iea t cd [j t th~ t:~:c t i I.::, ,,,'e ~""i 11 n:li n ~~~ i n Q:.Jr' i'n'e~;t'n t A!!i b~:,: le!' tu Ue! i n:~ Prc(.it:ctr. t:::~:i1inettlrct$ r.nvinv. ~;,,;~~ntnl I:~'ulth CUjt~eil. \"e ",ill C'c'()~(>ratc ccd c(,(,t'd!::nto c.~tivj th,r '."Hil >,c)tlr i'Y\:-~;) \.1:1t11 f..ldl Ll ti~ t.h::.t b:)::;', or::;:lnJz:cth,n:: oL~rC'.:) i t "r, ' .~......~.lI.~. .lj"~.\ it' nliv:;t'~t\'::~O\1~'.to C(.;,-:~l\:~ inco '-..,~"I""" ~-~I,l,,......... y~ -il.....,~L}....~..'l \~,..,.f, t\..,.,...... 1a.~_...,~l_1..~..7. 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('~:.~:.;.t:~:: t nJ.:~ ~y ..... ith In c.'!'''::~t' to p!'o'ii~~ yc":..l -.>'it:) bl":l'':',1~cr!r~d irl~Qr'.~.::.:::;'r.\\l c('.r;r.Cf.'r;i~,; C,YL' J-:.( f'"Hc1.f:.:!. pTGCt!ccs n~d bctivitic2 In ral~~i( to ~nv1~0n~)~:~1 Co~t~Ql, I en cncl~t!u: c.o?i~;{ of cull~\tic;"1 f.tl.'i::,!1-,~i 1'1..".... ;:[ !.,~':'H I r-\~)li~c;.tit::!~. co;:r'.;:~r("":.',~:cc. 1!~C. Ycu-:: h:t:tt'";t ir..HcotaG phr.~; for: t) ,.. ;-:! it:!: crI Jl.ly ~, 1:'> c:"' 17. ! d.H [;~,t b-.:! c'J{lil:-.:,lc.: ("'Ir'L~~ t!~i:' ",{:,'k of Jt.Lljl [, ~ 12. I ~;14]. t~ \'!'Jcd.bblc '';',1 t~:::: 151.~' c;.- 17th. Enc. cc; C, 5. A. c. F. t. r;,~tc:o:1r - C..,: 11. 1'. 1~<;.c1o~::! 1d - c;~:: F. J. \.: .. i) rile C ~(,lon - (!l:~ . 1;~1tie~ - G:~~' F r:. H.F. F.J. W.f'. C.L. I~\tch~r N~H;Don!lld Solon ~JZE~~~il &."1in8S Shc"~klcr .. Fl,ndcrn~ D!vi~ion ll~~~~u~rtcr9 June 20, 1%8 Tili r, i ,<j tl rollo'-,-up to my le ttcr or JU~li~ 1.3 ;h i.l:h ~,:) ~ 8 :su.'l"1:lry 0 j: the r;1'~::' ti 11;:; on June 17. Plc'!~(; note the ~tt1\;hccl er1ft Coundl of tho A~bp..c:to~-C~:;r:nt ,".,,'~;\,".~h t:.'..'..'.'. \'",~.'1" t1.ll' .q h--'<l 1',"""n "I" "ut # '-'-'- of nrl.~v"l for thr: propo'1cd H~:1lth a.nd S'_'lL't/ ho:~tl':t~ i\~;o:~[tti(m. 1 l~::,n <'Jet:' lwt!dn~; '..'ro.,:; (1n,'l P"r1,llC"'J . t,~-J.~)~,..~'" t..t..l..~4" 4.- ~ l", l.. v.., c r.,'.t1 ':("-'1",.1.,:.<..>..(.1. _ . ., ',-','..'1' 1~' ) !" ~!n.1 1::::1jc'Je thJt the; COl;n(:~\ \:i.ll I;c .:1 v'}ltl:Jbl(! 5nllt~'Jtry-.d.cc \', h.:di.! ~'Ol.' th~' PU;jl:L':::ltion 0::' ;:ll1Y lW{l1.l:h ~n{1 ~::ty Dt:111'.".'lc1<l. T;l:; (l:ltC' 0: tlw ne):t r.\(;etin~ h 1~'; not y(.'t Le~'n r';,<;1;:.\b1 ir:hr:'1 t'(F'l th~, t!1!:"C; r~.ll(.':: 0: July ~, 15, or 17, but 1 '"ill :dvi1C you os !':('un :!~ 1 h:,1r .ro~,l AJ. ~':y. F.J. W.P. C.L. ~:c:l Solon Raines Sheckler cc: F.E. Dutcher D.L. Hinmon M F. MacDonald Division Headquarters June 27, 1968 Attached Letter Asbestos-Cement Products Association Health and Safety Council This meeting should be organized in the same way as our previous one since the objective will be to expose the potential new members of the Health and Safety Council of A-CPA to the importance of their participation in membership in and the work of the Health and Safety Council. You will note that the time has been tightened up somewhat because the only ones not now familiar with the facts are the representatives from Supradur, U.S. Gypsum, Philip Carey and Woodward. Since I am sure the Health and Safety Council will get under way, I would appreciate your opinion on who should represent J-M in this activity. Please note that the companies who will be in the Council are all the manufacturers of asbestos-cement products in the United States. This, of course, includes pipe, which is manufactured by Certain-teed, Flintkote, Woodward and J-M. I am sure that this group would welcome Cliff Sheckler for membership and would probably welcome his leadership. However, I ought to have some guidance on whether this fits in with your planning. E.C. Cerny .J 0 H NS - MA N VI LLE SALES CORPORATION 22 E. 40th STREET' NEW YORK, N. Y. 10016 TELEPHONE: 5327600 AREA CODE 212 June 27, 1968 TO DlRECTORS.ASBESTOS-CE~lliNT PRODUCTS A.H. Fay - President J .G. Hall - Vice Pres. (unable t~ J.D. Moran atten ) F.K Sweeney J.H. Davies B.M. \valls - Counsel & Secretary ASSOCIATION National Gypsum Company GAF Corporation Flintkote Company GAF Corporation Atlantic Asphalt & Asbestos, Inc. Davies, Hardy, Loeb, Austin & Ives TO OTHER ASBESTOS-CHlliNT HANVFACTURING Fred Netter (attachments) M.S. Davis Fred Williams (attachments) Paul Kipp Wendell Brmm James Suddeth (attachments) W. R. Bond (a ttachments) COHPANY REPRESENTATIVES Supradur Corporation Certain-teed Products Corporation V.S. Gypsum Company V.S. Gypsum Company V. S. Gypsum Compnny Philip CaJ~ey Corporation Wood\Jard Corpora t ion .'" TO OTHERS CONCERNED "- '. F.E. Dutcher . ~,~D.L. Hinmon :.,,' F.J. Solon W.P. Raines C.L. Sheckler "'ITH ENVIROt'-;TH1.;:NTAL CONTROL J-M J-M J-M J-H J-M Gentlemen: Subject: Asbestos-Cement Products Association Health and Safety Counci:;:l:--._____ This will serve as confirmation of meeting to be held in the Johns-ManvilJe Board Room on the 11th floor, 22 East llOth Street at 10:30 A.H. Honcl.:lY, July 15 Hilh luncheon in the BO.1rcl Room at 12:30. The meeting uill run from 10:30 A.E. to 12: 15 P .H. and will conclude by I: 30 after luncheon is served. The meeting is under the auspices of the Asbestos-Cement Products Association; and the purpose is to solicit menilicrship in tIle newly-organized Health and Safety Council of the Asbestos-Cement Products Association.~nd to set up programs for the He:J.lth anel Sa fe ty COtlnc il to accomplish. All of those to T"lhom this is addressed have indicated ability to attend. If YOll arc unable to attend or if there arc any substitutions or requested additions, please advise by telephone. As preparation for this meeting, I em enclosing th~ folloHing for those ,;ho hove not previously receiv~d this mJ.terial: The Jolms- Hanville position paper on Asbestos Environr.lcntal Control and the tHO pamphlets recently issued by the Notion.:ll Insulation ~~[iUf.:lctt1re~ Association. v...ez~t/lJ~'0ru-<ly-. {'YO~ ()C..f/'L,L<L;: E way C. C~iny, Jr. (Tr~asllrcr - A-CPA) Vi.ce l'resi(lcnt <llld Ncrch:1ndisin~ N:1n;-l[;er Rcsidcnti:11 <llltl C0:nmcrci:11 Pr0c1ucts F.CC: sm BUILDH;G AND FLOo;UnC n\TEIUAl,S DIVISJO::S '.' ....... , 1 .  f ! ASBESTOS CEMENT PRODUCTS ASSOCIATION Minutes of Infornml Meeting Concerning Health and Safety Council July 15, 1968 An informal meeting under the auspices of the Asbestos Cement Products Association (ACPA) was held on the invitation of Hr. Ed""'7ard C. Cerny, Jr., Treasurer of the Association, in the Board Room of Johns-Manville Corporation at 22 East 40th Street, New York at 10:30 A.M. on July 15, 1968. The following persons were present representing Asbestos Cement Products Association: A. H. Fay, President J. G. Hall, Vice President E. C. Cerny, Treasurer J. D. Horan J. H. Davies William A. Boylan, Counsel National Gypsum Company GAF Corporation Johns-Manville Corporation Flintkote Company Atlantic Asphalt & Asbestos, Inc. Davies, Hardy, Loeb, Austin & Ives The following guests 'l;vere present by invitation: Fred Netter Harold HcNabb Paul Kipp Hendell Brown James Suddeth David Heaver H. H. Ball D. L. Hinmon \'J. P. Raines C. L. Sheckler Supradur Corporation Certain-teed Products Corp. U.S. Gypsum Company U.S. Gypsum Company Philip Carey Corporation vloodtvard Corporation Johns-}~nville Corporation Johns-Y~nville Corporation Johns-~mnville.Corporation Johns-Hanville Corporation Mr. Fay acted as Chairman of the meeting, and Mr. Boylan acted as Secretary thereof in the absence of Bradley \.Jalls, Secretary of ACPA, who was attending a meeting relating to possible health and safety problems in the production and application of asbestos insulation at the New York Academy of Sciences with Dr. I. J. Selikoff of Mom1t Sinai Hospital, J. B. Jobe, J. M. Barnhart of National Insulation Hanufacturers Association, A. E. Hutchinson of the Heat and Frost Insulators and Asbestos Workers Union and others. - 2- Describing the background and purposes of the rr.2eting, Hi. F;.?y stated that over a period of time ACPA had becoll3 inci:casingly ml7are of possible health and safety hazards resulting frow the production and use of asbestos cement products spec{fically, as well as asbestos products generally. He stated that members of ACPA thought it desirable to organize a health and safety council to provide interested persons with full infornation concerning these problems and a frame'tvork for further activity. He reported that at a meeting of the Board of ACPA in Ju~e there had been a feeling that a health and safety council should be established and that interested persons who were not mer~ei:S of ACPA should be invited to join the council and participate in its activities. Mr. Cerny then introduced Mr. Raines, who presented slides and movies showing publicity that has been given to health and safety problems in the asbestos industry. y~. Raines stated that it had been determined that these risks were occupational and related to dosage and time, and that there was no evidence of risk to the general public and that Jol1Us-}~nville intended to continue to seek information and to improve health and safety conditions. Thereafter, Mr. Sheckler discussed problems that had arisen and the increasing interest of the federal government, labor organizations and plaintiffs in 'tvorkmen' s compensation proceedings and court actions. He pointed out that Dr. I. J. Se1ikoff's extended and specific remarks at a meeting of the International Union of Heat and Frost Insulators and Asbestos Horkers had aroused great interest and that an ad hoc committee composed of representatives of several corporations in the asbestos cement industry had drafted a booklet to be distributed to users.of asbestos Cemc~t setting forth recommended health safety practices. Copies of this draft had previously been circulated to those at the meet:ing. Hr. Sheckler added that the health and safety problems in connection with asbestos cement 'tl7ere in some respects different from those of insulation: in the manufacture of asbestos cem2at products the exposure might be higher than in the case of insulation products, but in the application of asbestos cement the risks might be lower. He reported that the studies of DJ... Selikoff in New York and Dr. Cooper in Berke1ey had been confined to insulation workers. - 3- A general discussion followed the remarks by l-:r. Raines and Hr. Sheckler. Hr. Ball remarked that courts and \V'orkmen' s corr.:?ensation board currently appear to be friendly to plaintiffs claimin0 harmful results from "iV'orking with asbestos. Mr. Sheckler advised that new health standards had been suggested by the American Confere~cc of Governmental Industrial Hygienists of only 2,000,000 particles per cubic foot. This standard is stricter than that suggested in the past (5,000,000 pa~ticles per cubic foot). As to the specific health p~oblems presented, he reported that it "ivas believed that development of silicosis required an exposure to dust over a period of 20-25 years and that the same period was required for the developu;2nt of bronchogenic cance~. A third disease, mesothelioma, is rare, and little is knovm of it. It mayor may not be related to dosage. Hr. Brmvu commented that the State of Illinois was becoming interested in asbestos .health problems. Xr. Sheckler noted that insulation materials are nO~'7 labeled l;vith a warning notice and that respirators, approved by the Bureau of Hines, were not entirely effective in filtering dust. Mr. Fay reported on the research program of the Quebec Asbestos Hining Association, Hhich has appropriated more thc:.n $250,000 in the past year. ACPA would not duplicate the research effort of QAMA, but would confine itself to appraising any health problems peculiar to the manufacturing aspects of the asbestos cerr.eut industry, assisting fabricators and users of asbestos cement products in any health and safety programs and cooperating \oJ:th other private and governmental groups studying the same problems. Ee indicated that the draft booklet addressed tousers of asbestos cement, previously mentioned by Vrr. Sheckler, prepared under the auspices of a group of asbestos cement manufacturers might be the first order of business of an ACPA Health and Safety Council. Mr. Fay reviewed draft By-L,;ll;vs for the Health ~nd Safety Council of ACPA, proposed an initial membership payment of $50. per lI!8mber (l;vhich for members of ACPA would be paid out of P_CPA funds) and inquired of the visitors representing manufacturers who are not members of ACPA as to their interest. Representutives of three manufacturers indicated that their organizations would -4- "'J.sut ';:0 join, and representatives of t\lO others indicated tkt th2.Y "\vould have to report to their companies before giving final There \Vas further general discussion of the dif2.rent types of risks. :Vir. Horan suggested that problems of distribution of pipe were different froIJ other problems in connection Hith asbestos cement and suggested that pipe be handled separately. Thenafter, the meeting was adjourned for luncheon. Respectfully submitted, 1t~cc0~ I i