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FILE NAME: Kelly Moore (KM) DATE: 1975 Mar 28 DOC#: KM021 DOCUMENT DESCRIPTION: Meeting Minutes - Paco Production Meeting
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PACO PRODUCTION MEETING
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_______ March 28, 1975_______
PRESENT:
John Brown, Don Marquardt, Doug M errill, Bob M iller, Bill Moore, Wes W essel, John Winslow
1.
The revised 4151 Topping appears to be the best product we have made and
John Brown reports that it stands w ell, has minimum shrinkage and works w ell. The
only problem he has encountered is that it could need more open time in warm weather.
This can be corrected, but would raise our cost slightly.
2.
Doug Merrill has attempted to revise our 4051 All-Purpose similar to the
4051 Topping; however, the first experimental batch of this did not work too well in
the field te s ts . The biggest problem was that it was sensitive in thinning down and
could be over-thinned quite easily . Also, the customer reported that it worked harder.
Doug will do some additional work on this to see if we can get a satisfactory 4051 at
a lower cost.
3.
We have decided to put more effort into promoting our 5525 Dry Powder
Taping Compound, since this represents a good savings to the customer, and according
to Don Marquardt also works w ell. If we can do th is, particularly with small u sers,
we think it will put us in a better competitive position, since our competition does not
have a product this good. In order to promote th is, it will be necessary for the customei
to have a half-inch drill with an extension shaft and blade for mixing. We will try to
purchase these through our HIC's so that they can be sold to our customers at a savings
We will also buy one for each of our salesmen to use for demonstration purposes.
4.
We are s till getting reports in the Northwest and from the Bay Area that our
5565 Wall Texture is thinning down in the tanks and is soft when applied to the w all,
which makes it difficult to obtain a good paint job over the texture. However, Wes
W essel and Don Marquardt both say they are getting excellent results with i t . Doug
has been unable to duplicate this problem in the lab; therefore, it will be necessary for
us to get samples from the customer who is having a problem and see if we can determin
what it is from tests on the field product.
5.
We have not completed the tests on painting over Quik-Set to see if it can
be done without putting on a sealer coat; however, preliminary tests made by Doug
show that it should not be much of a problem. Bob M iller will have the lab make these
tests within the next week and put out a bulletin on the resu lts. At this time, we have
decided not to try to make Quik-Set in California, since the heavy season for it is almos
over. We will reconsider this next fall.
6.
The State of California regulations on use of asbestos in Paco-type products
reduces it to a maximum of 1/2 of 1% effective July 1, 1975, and there is a further re
duction to zero on July 1, 1976. This is more strict that the current EPA regulations
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which apply to the rest of the country. Our 5565-B Wall Texture is asbesto s free and our best selling product; therefore, we can promote this without any problem. We will need to get our 6373-L Acoustic down to this by July 1. Doug feels that it may be im possible to do this with the 6374-type product; however, work will be done on both of them. As soon as he has sam ples, he will try to get them tested so that we have some
knowledge as to where we stand prior to the July 1 deadline. This California regulation only applies to spray-type products, so it does not affect our join t cement at this time . Since this product cannot be sold through our stores after July 1 , we will have to setup a program whereby we have the new product available and distributed, and all the old product either sold or brought in for sale outside the State of California. John Winslow and Doug Merrill will coordinate a program to take care of th is . It appears that we will need to have this new product not later than May 1.
7.
Don Marquardt reports that Hamilton is now selling an asb esto s-free acoust
in a 50 lb . bag, which one customer has reported he likes and has gone to this product.
The co st on this is $ 6 . 2 1 , le ss 14jr%. Don will get a sample bag for Doug to use as
a comparison in making our asb esto s-free type.
8.
The next meeting will be held on Friday, May 2 , at 8:30 A.M.
c c : Gene Biddle Peter deVries Jack Fuhrman Bill Harrison Chuck Hogue A1 Holland Dick Nesmith
Frank Skaggs
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