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FILENAME: Flintkote (FLK) DATE: 1965 June 4 DOC#: FLK049 DOCUMENT DESCRIPTION: Meeting Minutes with Attendee List Asbestos Textile Institute -- . r-otel IN ATTENDANCE: in-tes GEN-RAL i SITING Asbestos Textile In stitu te June 4, 1965 Le Trovence, Thetford lin e s , Canada AMERICAN ASBESTOS TEXTILE CCRP. J.w . Weber J . L . Rainey G .S . Fabel J.W . Christenbury Wn. Haas leant D . F. Quealy asbestos codtoratic:: ltd. G .F. Jenkins T .S . LeClerc (A .C.S. Ltd.) E . L . Alexander 'A .C .S . Ltd.) W.W. Oughtred M.T.Carson A.L." Penbale G . F.A. Drink H. C . Pharo DELL ASBESTOS HUES LTD. G.W. Smith F . T. Smith Wm.J.W. Smith R. Dodds-Nebron *'orman- L. Darr CASSIAP. ASBESTOS CCRP. J.D . Christian W. Gritzuk T .T . Tigert R. Harson (Ontario Research Foundation) h.:;. porter coitaiy, imc. J.T . G riffis J.D . fcCluer D.E. Childers RAYDESTOS-; AI.'UATTAW, I .E . J .A . Drown, J r . L.C. Williams J .P . Wronski ;.w. Oliver R . 2. Smith J.W . Hawkins TALLI'Aii-t..C CLUaCZY FABRICS CO. Ted D. I cClu*skey TURNER 0 HEWALL LTD. Bernard Lincoln U .S. RUDDER COHPANY A . C . Link D.T. Austin, J r . S . J . Teeie, J r . B. D. Hubbard J .11. Wolfsie (Dr.) BRITISH BELTING it ASBESTOS LTD. J.L . litchell CADWALOER.wicuiRsiiAr & ta ft r.Ja y Flocken (Legal Counsel ) JO! INS-1'AItVILLE CORT. W.S. Hough E .A . Schuman v/.C. Atkinson C .L . Sheckler Dr. K.W. Smith ASBESTOS TETTILE lUSTirJTE H.E. Suabury (Exec. Secretary) SOC'ETS AllCilYI'E FRAi,CAl3E DU rZRCRC ionsieur Collineau " Uecaestecker LAKE ASBESTOS OP OUEBEC LTD r . j . Hesse 1 E.A. Farrell 10.w. Nelson U.S. rUBLIC iLEALT.I SERVICE Dr. L .J . Cralley J0HHS-MANVILL2 CO. OF CANADA LTD. it.W. Hendry PLAINTIFF'S EXHIBIT q ro .^ .o AQ- WV * GUESTS ** Karl V. lin d e ll, Chairman, Canadian"Johns-Uanville C o ., Ltd. J.O .E b y .V ice Pres.fc Genl.i gr. ,J e f frey line,Can. Johns-Nanii lie Co Ltd R. Gagnon, Lake Asbestos of '\iebec, Ltd. L . riuze, Nine I'g r ., L * e Asbestos of Duebee, Ltd. i , J . fe s s e l, President, Lake Asbestos of Duebec, Ltd. A .L . Penhale, Chairman t>. President, Asbestos Corporation Ltd. G .F . Jen kin s, D irector, Asbestos Ccrpcration Ltd. iA fro n n iR p a -A Q -W V : imites - General Teeting - cent mied: Guests : - 2- 1 L. i'ontpetit, Tanager, Ticolet Asbestos T*nes Ltd. ; ' Ivan Sabourin, O .C ., Montreal . ^ C.D. Drown, Dell Asbestos Vines Ltd, ,, T J.A .D . Tarcotte, D irector, Asbestos Corra at ion Dr. R.J . T e r r ill, T g r., Carey-Canadian'.`-Lines Ltd. ` . F . r . Hodgson, Tanager, Flintfcote Vines EtU, T. Lachance, -.A .; .A . Dust Engineer, Thetford Industrial C lin ic * R .S. Coleman, Tanager, national Asbestos Lines Ltd. Dr. L . J . C ra lle y , U .S . Public Health Service, Cincinnati, Chio Dr*K.W. Smith, Tedical Director*, Johns-Tanvi ile Cor p ., New York, Iv.y. ' D r.-J.n .'V olfsie,K edical D irector, United States Rubber Co.,New York.TV V r.N .L. Darr, Di rector, Bell Asbestos Tines Ltd. .Sales L-gr. .Atlas Asb.Co. Dr.- R. .'-arson, D irector, Ontario Research Foundation G rit2uk, A sst, to the Geni. T g r., Cassiar Asbestos Coro., Ltd. Dr. Faul C artier, Thetford Industrial C lin ic , Thetford .ir e s Geo. S . Fabel, American Asbestos T extile Corn.. A. Collineari, Socit Anonyme Franaise Du Ferodo, T. Decaostecicer, " " " A}. " , In addition to the above guests we wers privileged to have th irty ladies accompany their husbands/ to our luncheon on Friday, Jure 4ft . a -- Minutes of the tteetirig -- 1. The meeting was called to order by President J .A . Drown, J r . , who expressed our appreciation for the opportunity of holding"this meeting in Thetford Mines,' and thanked our hosts, Asbestos Corpora-, tio n , L td .; Dell .Asbestos Lines Limited; Canadian Johns-L anvi 11a C o., L td .; Cassiar Asbestos Corporation Limited; and Lake Asbestos oT Que bec Limited, for th eir wonderful hospitality and meticulous handling of the many d e ta ils incidental to the meeting. The miners r*`tbrnittee who handled the lo cal arrangements consisted s f i;.r . Carson, Asbestos Corp.; LJ.W. Hendry o f Can. Johns-Manville C o .; Roland Gagnon, Lake Asbestos of Quebec; Wm.J.W. Smith of Dell Asbestos Tines representing Cassiar Asbestos- Ccrp. r'anrt F.Parker' Smith, Dell Asbestos .in e s , who was Chairman of the committee. To a ll of these gentlemen we extend3 individual thanks for a job that was. exceedingly well done] Tiesident Drown then introduced a number of TJr^flflWW^yrests who were attending this meeting, following which he explained that d ie to the fa ct that some of the ren had to leave before noontine in or der to catch a widafternoon flig h t'o u t of lontreal, the usual, agenda had been reversed to enable them to hear our several guest speakers. 2. Our f i r s t sneaker was Lr. T .J . Vessel, Trust eat of Lake A s b e s t o s of `uebec, Limited, who welcomed the re fibers of A .T .I. witLi these r e marks: 'Tresident Drown, Ter.bers of A .T .I ., Guests, It *is a p l e a s ure, on behalf of the Canadian Asbestos i iners, to welcome you to * asbestos country with its ian--'ade mountains and to t e ll you how* pleased and honoured we are to have, you hold your meeting in T. e t t c r d iWinheilse I have not been very active in A .T .I ., I have followed its , * very closely through tl\e reading of the fine and comprehensive re ports which your Secretary so nbiy ruts together. I have a l so r lowed closely the cooperative work which your technical commit:- _ have bccn doinS with the Quebec Asbestos**ining Association, 10/93 001594 Minutes - General Meeting - continued : - 3 - is much appreciated, and mutually beneficial I know the work ct an association such as yours is a d if f ic u lt one due to wide ranee and* complexity o* problems that have to oe dealt with and wish to '-on gratulate ycur association in the splendid and e ffe ctiv e way th a t'iconducts it s a ffa irs and comes with your industry problems. As yet there is no shortage of Group 3 spinning fibres from the - i - ^ in Canada, as I can s t i l l see plenty of order-takers around. How-*"' ever, there are indications of rossible shortages in some of the as bestos cement graces. At one time the spinning fib re grades were the mainstay of the asbestos producing industry, but this has now been supplanted by the asbestos cement fibre grades together with expanded, uses of the shorter fib re s. during i64, the Canadian Asbestos producing industry employed over 6onn reorle md exported approximately 1,333 ,000 tons of asbestos with an approximate gross value of $135,000,000. Cf this total o-.lv 34,6^7 tons were crude and spinning grades with an approximate total value of $14,000,000. The U .S.A . market consumed approximately 14,600 tons of crudes and spinning fibres with a value of approxi mately $6,400,000, and. this has remained rather constant for the*rast 3 or 4 years. The only other large suppliers of spinning fi'r e s are Russia and Rhodesia. The figures we obtained during our v is it to Russia would indicate approximately 20 to 25 thousand tons of spin ning fibres out of an estimated to ta l production of 1,600,000 ti ns; so Canada s t i l l holds its dominant position as supplier of te x tile fib r e s . The cooperative work that is being carried on for improved fibre testin g methods and standards should lead to a better understanding between the producing and consuming asbestos industries. Mr. Sabourin, as attorney for '.A .M .A ., w ill t e ll you somethin of the work that is beine considered with resnect to the health o'f the workers in our industry. I feel there should be room for cooperative work between the A .T .I . and '.A .` .A. I hope your v is it among us w ill be a most happy and pleasant one and w ill result in a better understanding of our mutual reoblens, aid X know the Local Committees of A .T .I . and the Canadian Asbestos Minors have done a splendid job in making your stay amongst us both happy and memorable." 3. President Drown then introduced Dr. Kenneth W. Smith, Medical Director of Johns-I'anville Corporation, who stressed the d e s ir a b ili ty , indeed the necessity, of the asbestos industry te llin g the truth about the health o f its employees and giving meaningful rapor ts as to company experience. He pointed out that some of the more p r o lific writers on so-called "asbestosis" have relatively l i t t le background of actual "cases" on which to base their theories or conclusions, as compared with our collective and also individual company experience over many years time. Dr. Smith urged fu ll cooperation on the part of various companies to open their records, and fu ll cooperation ..ith *^ wcrk o f the U .S. Public Health Service. lie stated that the -;cnaral overall health of Johns-1 anvilie longtime employees compared favorably v/ith industry in general, and pointed to the steadily ex panding membership in their 25 year club as evidence of this f a r :. AQ -W V 4. President 3rown then introduced Mr. Karl V. Lindell , Chairman. Canadian Johns-Manville Co., L td ., who expressed his pleasure at aving the opportunity to attend this meeting, and-.said that he w o ..` line to have i r . Ivan Sabourin, <.C., attorney for the C.A.. uc about the work that has been done in past years to protect t~e 10/93 001595 3 i n j n i .-ee^ng - c. tT'.bi..2 to )i` . ra'.i. Cartier of the Thetford Industrial C lin ic Ln-in-5! .uc that Or# Ga.t^c.. had contributed manv valuable papers ar.n reports on asbestoses over a span of many yaars. Also "that Er. Gra.`.-C -r of Canartjan Jcluos-ranville C o .'L td ., Dr. Georv<i"Wight or Cleveland, and Dr. A .j . Voiwald of "iet.vo.it deserved r:uc'h "ctrer.-.V" for tr.eir work and contributions to the increasing fund of sner?' knowledge regarding asbestosis. Stressed that the lin in g industries recuire their doctors `to kee~ uc with the work being dene by others on pneumoconiosis research, an.-4. - ' to attend mincings both here and abroad, and participate in the d-sc-u-sions at those meetings. He stated with great emphasis that the k-cwledae possessed by the industry's doctors on the biological o f fsets of chrysoti.'.e asbestos was not surpassed elsewhere in the world, `e.ntioned that contacts have been made with doctors in Rus s ia , East Germany, Finland, Ita ly , England and other countries. Expressed his b e lie f that cancer is not necessarily involved cue to association with asbestos. Pointed out that the A.I .A. articls that anneamo only about two weeks ago was net convincing - only informa tive - indicates much further work is needed - regrets adverse pub l i c i t y that results from such a r tic le s . E^ressed the opinion that while the welfare of the worker should be thr resp on sibility of managenent, we need to know more about tne worker's environment after he leaves the r ia n t. Errla.ir.ed that the Q .A .J'.A . program is s t i l l in the formative stave, ib.sy seek a llia n ce with some university, such as -cGii!, f'*r so tha: authoritative background for publicity can be had. The , rogram w ill sta rt modestly, with competent men coming into i t - men with a vast background of actual experience. They recognize the need to consolidate experiences, and also having traveled widely in other countries, they find that research units are usually located adjacent to a X r g e , well eouipped hospital. Frequently, the worker has a to the Q.A.M.A. program for the benefit of a ll - deplored the i.*olat ;on of e ffo rts and poor liaison between research laboratoues a-nd research u n its . Suggested that a common-council as a governing -cdy might be the answer and result in more rapid progress. Z . V ' 1* next speaker was Dr* L . J . C r a l l e y , ofthe U . S . Public S - ' i v i c e , who fo r the past several years has been supervising t-'nsive Environmental Study of asbestos employees in t e x t i l e 1 . * u -s . a . Dr. c r a m , tilth tr.e exr.mts LAQ-W V iher etroansion. 10/93 00159G 000333s >'inutes - General .Ve-ti.-.g - continues: - 5 - In other areas of a ctiv ity the U .S .p . h . Service presented a na-e- at the recent American industrial Conference at Houston. Texas wh!ch summarized their study experience in fiv e plants. Draft conies of two gapers were distributed to our Air Hygiene Committee on June 3rd. The f ir s t paper by Jeremiah D. Lynch of the Dept, of Health Educa tion and welfare, title d "Asbestos Study - Procedure and Findings" and the second paper, title d "Relationship of Impinger Counts to Fibre Concentration by ` embrane F ilte rs in Asbestos Textile Plants". (Both of these papers are covered more fu lly in the report of oir Air Hygiene !r Mfg. Committee which is attached to these minutes.) Dr. Cralley plans to speak at Seminars frequently in the future, such as University of Texas, insurance companies, e tc . Mentioned that since the conference on "B iological Effects of Asbestos", held in New York last October, the New York Academy of Sciences has now established a "Division of Environmental Sciences". At the conclu sion of his talk Dr. Cralley answered several questions from the audience. 6. President Drown then asked i'x. N.W. Hendry, General Sales ranager for Canadian Johns-Manville Asbestos Limited, to report for the Fibre Committee. J'x. Hendry stated that inventories of spinning fibre axe ample tut sub stan tially below the levels of one year ago. Denand for Group 3 fibres remained relativ ely f la t in 1964 in most countries of the world with the exception of the U.3. and Europe. The increase in demand in the la tte r area was considerably greater than in the U.S. Dusiness conditions in Japan are f a ir , Ita ly poor, Germany f a i r , United Kingdom good, and the remainder of Europe relatively good in the asbestos te x tile and asbestos-cement fie ld s . It is expected, however, that the second half of 1965 w ill show an improver nt over the f ir s t half in those areas of the world in which business condi tions have been below average. The average reduction in the -200 mesh HcNett content of spinning fibres from 1953 to 1965 is in the order of 50 - 75 per cent. New asbestos fibre production projected from new properties in Cana da includes the Clinton Creek property of Cassiar in 1968, Asbestos H ill of Asbestos Corner ation in 1970, and the possible Reeves proper ty o f J . r . in Northern Ontario. This new production w ill supply the asbestos-cement market p rin cip ally. Russian production in 1964 at 1,600,000 tons exceeded that of Canada for the fir s t time and ti is trend is expected to continue in the forward years. LAQ-WV 7. i'r. T .Jay Flocken, our Legal Counsel, on being introduced by President Brown, gave an interesting talk on the subject of "Reci procity and Antitrust Law Enforcement in Relation to Reciprocity". A b rie f summary of his remarks follows: The subject of reciprocity is receiving renewed interest from antitrust enforcement agencies. Reciprocity generally is the rractice whereby companies make concess ions to one another in order to promote their own business in te re st. The most common form of reciprocity is reciprocal buying. Although several recent merger cases which in mart involved attacks on recip rocal buying p ractices, no court has yet held nor has the government yet charged that such practices are ille g a l in and of themselves. Except for one merger case s t i l l pending in the courts, no gove-rnmen' an titru st suit has challenged reciprocal practices as ille g a l and unreasonable restraints of trade or anticompetitive practices with out also attacking some other conduct. While it is s t i l l an open question, therefore, whether such practices may be ille g a l without 10/93 001597 Vinures - General .''eat ins -* cent_______ _ - u. - evidence of other anticompetitive conduct, i t seems lik e ly the near future reciprocity w in be made the sole tareet of loconotive case; the General Dynamics Corporation case, the Ineersoll Rand Company case, and the Reynolds Tobacco Company-Penick S: Ford, Ltd. case. 8. The Report of Funds was rresented by E .A . Schuman, Treasurer, and is attached to these minutes. 9. i t was moved by S . J . Peele, J r . , that the reading of minutes of the la st meeting be omitted - seconded by 2 .L . Alexander - so voted. 10. The Committee Reports as made by their respective chairmen are attached to these minutes. J .P . Wronski gave the report for tlx Fibre Testing Committee as its chairman, I . Barnett, could not attend this meeting. 11. President Brown welcomed J . L . Mitchell as a reoresentative of B ritish Belting St Asbestos, L td ., stating that wevere greatly pleased that he would be in regular attendance at our meetings. 12. President Drown announced that our next meeting would be held on the 7th and 8th of October, (a rriv al on the 6th) and tentative location was Hotel Hershey, Hershey, Penna. Subsequent to the meet in g, i t was found that the Iiotel Hershey could not accommodate our meeting on those particular dates, and i t has been decided to hold the October meeting at "The INN", Suclc H ill F a lls , Tenna., October 6-8th. The IIIIJ is a famous hostelry d e lig h tfu lly located in the scenic Pocono Mountains. It should be an ideal time of year to be there, with autumn foliage at it s height. Located 100 miles from either New York or Philadelphia, i t nay be reached by Erie-LaCc awanna train to Cresco (3 miles to INN). Limousine meets a il train s. Dy air there is commercial service to Scranton-Wilkes Darre or Allen town-Bet hlehem-Easton Airports. Private or chartered planes may land at Mount Pocono A irpcct. Dy car from New York cr Philadelphia is a three hour drive over excellent roads. The INN operates on the Amer ican Plan, and the daily rates, including a ll neals, is Double Room $19-$21 per person; Single Room $20-522 per person; single occupancy of ctouble room $25 per person. SO -- MARK YOUR CAULPAR - 'The I.VN Buck H ill F a lls . Pa. . October 6th to 8th -- and bring your w ife: 13. President Brown paid tribute to A .J . Scanlan, Treasurer of the In stitu te in 1953 and 1954, ancl Vice President in 1959-1960, who passed away on February 13, 196. President Brown stated that ts had sent a le tte r o f sympathy to Mrs. Scanlan at direction of the Board of Governors of the Institute and had received a nice letter from her in rep ly. He then asked the members to observe a moment of silence in memory of "Ank" Scanlan. LAQ-WV 10/93 0001598 Minutes - General Meeting - continued: - 7- 14. President Brown reported that "Jack" B ettes, of Raybestojyanhatran.Inc. , was unable to attend this nesting duo to the fa c t that ho was r.ot yet fu lly recovered from a recent na jor operation, however he is now bade at his desk on a part-time b a s is . la c k , always a staunch supporter of A .T.I.prebaoly hasn' t missed a meeting in the la st twenty years, and w- r e lt hie ab most keor.ly. His many friends in the In stitu te wish him a sp return to complete good health. 11 1 15. The meeting then adjourned for luncheon, to which the wives had been in v ited , and i t proved a most enjoyable a f fa ir . 16. Adjournment of the meeting followed luncheon. Respectfully submitted, LAQ-WV 10/93 001599 e o 3 --