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FILE NAME: Asbestos Sacks and Bags (ASB) DATE: 1965 Aug DOC#: ASB025 DOCUMENT DESCRIPTION: Internal Correspondence between Turners Asbestos Fibres Ltd. & Turner and Newall Ltd. RE Dust Proof Bags TURNER BROTHERS ASBESTOS COMPANY LTD. To Mr. John 7/addell. Mr. A.D.N. Jones, Turner & Newall Ltd. J 'iV/JEG d :;j JPK/J3TP Your Ref:- s' 7 / / S 5- y 12th August, 1 9 6 5 Asbestos In Bags .. , * a *** . .. A i ' . * I have discussed your letter of 10th August I; with Dr. Knox and I find that Dr. Smither of Cape has already been in touch with him about M f c .tha same matter, so presumably Cape have also heard from the Ocean Ship Owners Group. gii"ft-. This is clearly a matter of the utmost & V gravity, and Dr. Knox entirely agrees; that;Dr. Smither is the best man to give advice to the ft. Ocean Ship Owners Group Joint Committee,;; Dr. Hunter Is well known to both Dr. Knox and Dr. Smither. ft ' : ' iftft .--ft. . In the short term, it Is going, to be extremely I. difficult to get round the rather extreme opinion f?f' given by Dr. Hunter, and now that the Dockers have got hold of this they will never let it go. In the long run impervious bags should help a great deal but of course there will; always be a certain amount of spillage due to torn bags, and this could best be dealt with by damping. j'ith regard to our experience of the risks to bag carriers it is difficult to be categoric, since in the old days at Harridge Mill the bag carriers who did the stacking and unstacking of crude were also employed to soi.se extent in the manufacturing areas in the same building, which were always fairly dusty. You may well he right that there is only one recorded asbestos!-. case in the- If. "roup of a man who was never Cont ,-r' -.S.i. - Mapa*, ry-if.'..>r yy.. ' /; - ' "'-ft. ft : ft ft. . -ft - / 2 employed on anything except hag handling hut I am afraid that this is not very convincing evidence that the handling of 'ucty hags is not dangerous. ip: If you have written to Mr. Dent, as I suggested, I think it v/ould he useful if Up . 3ateman or I had a v/ord with him tomorrow. I am quite willing to do so, and of course I know Ur. Dent quite well through the Acbestocis Research Council, hut possibly Mr. Bateman might prefer to deal with the matter himself. Perhaps I should confirm here what I mentioned to you on the phone about Dr. Knox, namely that he is still convalescing and will probably not he fully operational again until about the end of September. He is going on holiday next Monday for two weeks, so it will he inconvenient for me to consult him even informally, as 1 have been doing in the last FROM TURNERS ASBESTOS FIBRES LIMITED Ttligm m . VsIVooton.MwAnwf Central Q4 Telex U H O FAULKNER HOUSE FAULKNER STREET MANCHESTER 1 S Copy to: MFH/VPH TO S 1 t -Z -o HR. A.D.N. JONES, Turner & NewalX Limited. 12th August 1965. Dust-Proof Bags Following our recent conversation, thank you I for sending copies of the letter dated 29th July which you received from Mr. Bennett, Secretary of the Ocean Ship Owners Group Joint Committee in the Port of London. As T.A.F.Ltd. are very closely Involved in the troubles In unloading asbestos in London docks, would you please keep us Informed of this correspondence as It develops. ; \ r- :-'a> V Ve have been singularly fortunate so far In that our difficulties with the dockers1have not been ventilated publicly, especially as they would make excellent material for a feature on radiotelevision or in the press.,..- 1 t h i n k i t i s onlya matter of time before publicity overtakes;' usespecially. I f a reporter ' gets hold of Dr. Donald^Hunter^-s In that; e v e n t s o m e o n e Is bound to contact A?,A{HLtd.%as'the largest Sngllsh.%|i%. commercial lnterest ln asbestos.,Accordinglyt I have sent a copy of this note to Mr. Howard and: suggest that he Is briefed on what''he^has.;:t o ^ a y , l f .he Is contacted. . Since shlpmeni's^;td5Brlth are made through London and they are having difficulty now In unloading one of their shipments, I suggest that you ask T.A.C, to let you know If they are approached. JCTF/AV _ _ _ .V M* *tm> FROM TO TURNERS ASBESTOS FIBRES LIMITED Telegram s V u lb e tio n , M anchester T o le p h o n g FAULKNER HOUSE FAULKNER STREET MR. A.D.N. JONES, T u r n e r &. N o w a l l L i m i t e d . Centrai 0334 MANCHESTER 1 - T e le x 6 4 5 6 0 C o p y to: M F H / W P H 12th August 19 6 5 . Dust-Prsof Bags Following our recent conversation, thank you for sending copies of the letter dated 29th July which you received from Mr. Bennett, Secretary of the Ocean Ship Owners Group Joint Committee in the Port of London. ( As T.A.F.Ltd. are very closely involved in the troubles in unloading asbestos in London docks, would you please k e e p us informed of this correspondence as it develops. We have been singularly fortunate so far in that our difficulties with the dockers have not been ventilated publicly, especially as they would make excellent material for a feature on radio, television or in the press. 1 think it is only a m a t t e r of time before pu b l i c i t y overtakes us, e s p ecially if a reporter o gets hold of Dr. Donald Hunter. In that event, someone is bound to contact T .& N.Ltd. as the largest English commercial interest in asbestos. Accordingly, X have sent a copy of this note to Mr. Howard and suggest that he is briefed on what he has to say if he is contacted. L Since shipments to E r i t h are made through London and they are h a v i n g d i f ficulty now in unloading one of t h e i r s h i p ments, I su g g e s t that y o u a s k T.A.C. to let you know if they are approached. J.C FELL JCTF/AV *; Telegrams V*lktMA Manchester Tdeehcae Can crai 0334 Tel MO FAULKNER HOUSE FAULKNER STREET MANCHESTER 1 C o p y to: M F H / W P H MR. A.D.N. JONES, Turner & Newall Limited. 12th August I9 6 5 . Dust-Proof Bags Following our recent conversation, thank you for sending copies of the letter dated 29th July which you received from Mr. Bennett, Secretary of the Ocean Ship Owners Group Joint Committee in the Port of London. As T.A.F.Ltd. are very closely involved in the troubles in unloading asbestos in London docks, would you please keep us informed of this correspondence as it develops. We have been singularly fortunate so far in that our difficulties w ith the docker's have,not been ventilated publicly, especially as they vould make excellent material for a feature on radio, television tor in the press. X think it is only a matter of time before publicity overtakes us, especially if a reporter gets hold of Dr. Donald Hunter. Xn that event, someone is bound to contact T.& N.Ltd. as the largest English commercial interest in asbestos. Accordingly, X have sent a copy of this note to Mr.' Howard and suggest that he is briefed on what he has to say if he is contacted. Since shipments to Erith are made through London and they are having difficulty now in unloading one of their shipments, X suggest that you ask T.A.C. to let you know if they are approached. _J.C.T. FELL JCTF/AW