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FILE NAME Manville JMA DATE 1934-1949 DOC JMA260 DOCUMENT DESCRIPTION Lanza Correspondence - Memos Letters & Meeting Minutes - Part 1 of 2 COPY COPY ~ [Vl. C General Headquarters April 11 1934 Mr. S. A. Williams Vice President Re Metropolitan Survev I was advised yesterday by Dr. Lanza that Metropolitan Life Insurance Company will be in a position to commence their proposed survey of the various Manville - Raybestos plants on or about the 15th day of May The survey will commence at Waukegan and I assume that the Ray equipment will be completely installed by the date indicated From Waukegan they will go to Alexandria then to Gretna then to Charleston and continue up the East Coast visiting the plants of the two Companies in geographical order Drs Lanza and McConnell are i oking for a young ran to be trained in the technique of the taking of dust counts who you will recall is to be employed by Manville and jointly Inasmuch as the person so engaged may probably at a later date to give testimony at trials as an expert Raybestos be required in his line it has been thought advisable to get a fairly well educated individual even though we may have to pay slightly more for his services They have in mind perhaps engaging some recent graduate of a good engineering school and estimate that they can secure the services of a personable and well qualified young man at between 40 and 50 per week VANDIVER BROWN n LEGAL DEPARTMENT VB | LIBERTY INSURANCE MUTUAL COMPANY HOME OFFICE BOSTON 8024080240 PARK SQUARE BUILDING BOSTON MASS December 30 1936 PERSONAL AND CONFIDENTIACONFILDENTIAL Leroy U. Gardner M. D. Saranac Laboratory Saranac Lake New York Director Re A. M. A. Silicosis Research Your Progress Report Dear Dr. Gardner Thank you for your letter of December 19 in reply to mine of December 12 in discussion of the above subject I note you have had opportunity to discuss the question of a date for presenting your progress report with Mr. Whitney and you have doubtless also seen Dr. Lanza and Dr. Meller recently and have their general views on the proposed joint meeting Personally I am entirely agreeable to a delay until next Spring for this meeting if others in our two insurance groups desire it My cole objective is to do everything I can to assist in the securing of additional financial support by the casualty insurance companies at the appropriate time whenever that is Your remarks regarding what Mr. Kuechle of the Employers Nutuals of Fausau is doing in receiving and circulating reports on research projects I do not understand I have not received any copy of what you wrote him at length regarding your own work Mr. Kuechle is a member of the A. M. A. General Claims Committee of which our Assistant General Claims Manager Mr. McGehearty is a member and of which the General Claims Manager of the American Mutual Mr. Marston is Chairman I have made inquiry of both Mr. Marston and Mr. McGehearty as to their receiving copies of your reports sent to Hr Kuechle and find that they have not themselves received any such reports Was this information you sent Mr. Kuechle to be considered in any sense a progress report on the research work that was supported in part by our 51-167 Leroy U. Gardner H. D. ~ 2 12/30/36 A. M. A. contribution of 15,000 If so it is evident that someone in our Mutual Alliance should see to it that all members of the Alliance should receive copies While I must admit that our joint activities are not carried on with any very consistent formality and also that changes in what formality we do attempt are likely to occur from time to time I have no information that this particular job of distribution had been assigned to Mr. Kuechle It is perhaps to be considered distinct from Mr. Kuechle's very valuable service in arranging for the printing and dis tribution at the expense of his own company of the addresses presented at the First and Second Saranac Silicosis Symposiums At your convenience kindly advise me as to what this material was that went to Nr Kuechle last Fall With kind regards and wishing you the compliments of the season I remain Very truly yours ; Whiting Whiting Whiting Whiting 9.E S. E. Whiting Chairman Committee on Claims & Medical American Mutual Alliance SEW MP cc - Mr. S. Bruce Black Chairman Undesirable Risks Committee American Mutual Alliance 514F8 5-100027199 5-100027199 TF te Bong Cy ~ wo T. Brown July 16 1947 Dr. Lanse good fromJLob ynch riebialsitoy nably let me know after he talks with , just what he thinks ought Bw ae x 2 Dr. Langa tells me today ftrhoatm hLeynhoahs jLusatnrz eclaaalgroeidng the completed manuscript be my until next Wednesday and time to Pittsburgh to during this he will review this manuscript and arbitration case held in Moatreal, It should should our plan have have . Mr. L. rom Brown yesterday the point Brown I connection with Vandivar capable lawyer point L. H. case I ve raised with having a understand understand connection to discuss this present our old firm Vandiver Brow plans with that we de go to te st arbitration important not only L. H. Brown prepared brobuughtt prpreessenetnt the to of arbitration that can only done well our story that can be done | . oe 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0. 0.0 0.0 , 0.0 OF | 3 morning Lansa's Lansa's Lansa's opinion after revi o oi the Employment and Medical Histories and ray series is that this disability is a true case He does not feel that the of Asbestosis pathological pathological process in the right upper lobe ich might have been TB has any causal patholgicalrelationship to this man's present condition " es = _ He suggested that the peculiar ray findings which he Dr. Pauly has never been able sat- isfactorily to explain may be the result of advias dvie se ey exposed films Dr. will : Dr. Pauly of this and will discuss it with him . Dr. Pauly comes to New York for the course _ | hen copensamtionedicine to diagnosis a order to confirm the 8 I 05- history to Dr. K. V. Smith | at at Asbestos -We have little doubt but that the im. Ivan Subourin Aldred Gubourin Rees 2201 . Ivan Gubourin 2201 December 1950 1950 Canada Proposal Q H Garana^'s | A Meas Dear Ivan, w? Garana^'s information : have. always boon Toleoay of have somewhat disturbed the to rolennu information always been somewhat Saranao'a the arrangement arrangement suems rolennu rolennu information on tost intondod supprons wording the Proposal feal inadequate No have novor novor intondod supprons Gvexg we advance release release should should tinuly tinuly should have and dofensive Movos might right available of fe5] available us no might available available available to Standing HPAL] on Pleson out in the scrooment us, I standing standing on apoll information . roleate information Dr. with Curanac from lero below is an agreement undape quoted the tn standing found some natorial natorial Lansa 1 ruggest same principles Farance you to same 8a09 orlnetplas discloseadppreciated publication Proprifotary . "Infornatton ta to furnished to Information Information to him furnished by The Donor or its SFe staff Institute and results of its Institute's studios The The Institute will offorts to 000 are confidential information information not use without The Doner's that mich pormonn other actually engaged written inventi- consent consent pormonn than thomo Cue Agrucmunt gations investigations It is the appreciated that the inventi- results ; results ouch investigations may be public coserves intorout intorout and of investigations that Tha understood University coserves right havu netbars netbars conducted by The publish publish remilts public experimental experimental experimental studies conducted fontitute which which and medical conducted by before any of are public obtained obtained interest are POU publishof publishof a csopcy ieonftific material published published sthalhl ese submitted submitted to publishof The Honor at material ) days before ments ments criticism thirty aloo understood understood publication Donor or or its affiliated . It compania not identified egrend will proprietary proprietary Meds nuses of ita compania probiota be or stand identified connection with such put- lished lished probiota Donor's Donor's consent connection with rooults without The ta sonsant,c*onsent With euch pure minutos -dng We Wo ing ancure you Saranno Saranno arrangements conting accordance accordance minutos minutos November November our conting November 1950 7, 1950, with of undora tasting with thay Sp Propepal and oxtedy- the oun Yours sincernly, e wt HELO Copy Copy Copy : Hr Fiaher J.P, walared , asthe wna ASags rhe oo. a toys RG 549H " AL102222026 AL102222026 COP Department of Interior Deroe f o Mun es Washington Jun8e 1940 Medical 4.3 Stephan Medical Corps 1.3 Hwy Division of Preventive Medisins Washington Dad Dear Commander StephensonsStephensons following accordance with our telephone xuvenation I suggest the tforlliowainlg mmeeddiicciinneefoasr pthoessNiabtlieonmaelmbers of xuvenation xuvenation committes un indusResearch Commeil Dr. G.D. Selby Medical General Eaters Corporation , Standard Never Reedy Medical Director SNetwanYdaorrdk01E1.Y.Spy of New Jersey Dr. Lames Assistant Medical Directer Metropolitan Life Insurance Company S. Area of Oc upational Diseases, Diseases Hartford Commit The members of other State Dreams of Industrial Hygiene are of Industrial Director Dr. L. W. Spayer Medical Division , State Board of Health Indianapolis Indians e Philip Goverment ake IndustrdiiviasiloHnsygieninster- helpful you fully fully aware Cordially yours /of %. 2. SATE Director Director " ve 2 ee. eon 2 : 4 ny = we Just Just wd eet Just tees pevenet ae aFn? Just Just Just Just - - New College Kostel New York Flower . "ns Fifth Avenue bspitals How York flow Zork . wk Sm, - A , . . Uly dear Er "oy : Boyd your regard- In reply to letter recant ing the specifientimic specifientimic specifientimic asbestosI am incl ning of andyses of reveral different types of bestes you which I teagino in that want Inmition the Cable product such as the Anaconda re nd Co. pur- . chases which has a very small amount of cotton the analysis of you have as it is public and wellimhown ) ee ee exactly viny If I had some idea of a Mae exactly whatyou : z . IF . : . - oo you I were bring to arme at might to able to give e. More information note you are with the New Yorks UP CodedCoded Colleguned 1 ^ yink on subastor that Life Insurance irust the iktropolitie Insurance Co his fire detailed information in than angono cl.c. would refer you to Dr. Lonca the I understand isinthe service or Mr. , Tim J. Felinol of the Hygiene ElvisionElvision the way to + triking his place and the I own own filterwithwith the 7 abesioabension duntconditions 7 Fo ti a airs oo aa . foot of por Comparison in total dist count por, soupled , of particles per culis in three surveys made by the Metropolitan yoeran Life Insurance Company in the 1935 = 1933 ' Spooling Tasting and Weaving Brake Lining Finishing DepaHir xit ng i Depe arn tiet nt 09670 Certe Certe Certe Certe Certe Poster Conrelian Conrelian Conrelian Conrelian Conrelian Poster Poster Poster Poster Poster , Eng , Johns Johns Johns - banville banville Co.Limit Co.Limit Co.Limit Co.Limit 7 | Co.Limit Co.Limit Co.Limit Co.Limit Dear Dear Dear GGeoergeoGr eorgg e e George 12 1175713 11175177153 7131175713 Also Also Also Also ofof Dr. Dr. Dr. Tm Cveharit^' that citating citatingcitating citating citating citating atosis atosis atosi atosis atosis atosis atosis citating be rejcted atosis also be also rejected rejected rejected rejected rejected rejected rejected IS IS RSRS R.SCaminer R.SCaminCe.rl.lcGav R.SCaminer CC R.S.Caminer C.l.lcGav R.SCaminer R.S.Caminer R.S.Caminer R.S.Caminer R.S.Caminer R.S.Caminer C.l.lcGav C.l.lcGav . airs ist ist ) radiola the radiola radiola radiola radiola radiola ist . that asbestoic coull coul coull These These These warntub warntub two two clainsclainsclaicnslainsclains clains shoulsd hould should should should should should , therefore therforetherefore therefore therefore ins therfore therefore therefore therefore therefore Yours Yours Yours Yours YoursYours faithfully faithfully faithfuly faithfullyfaithful y faithful y faithful y faithful y faithfulfyaithfullfayithfulyfaithfully , ABOURIN IZAN IZAN IZAN IZAN IZAN S ABOURIN ABOURIANBOURIN ABOURIN ABOURIN ABOURIN ABOURIN . : te the Incidentally Incidentally Incidentally of fee ae veing she sate Dr@ nave eho Srastess (Incidentally. yey oY Lenten Bbe SRIOTEOS awe ayees crme eee een . - will act have to that te pher the late Dr. Gardner riving riving fm has ce that bo effect that after Dr. Ignsh has Gardner in cypertunity te mexdamihenehtahsermeacetievreidala hreepvliyltlodtehteermine whether it fe possible te pat it gether cypertunity nevezi te leave om 6 arrange te the Vest feast abest the first of February ant bas Dr, henee Lynch that he vill arrange if possible to have the material sent to him be- > afdovriestedheDr.tiLney,ncdhat, should it not de realy then, 40 have be mmitted BRE . uring Br, Ttense sadoenes. a Rei he vmal^keep in touch with N about here od also about hea about here Of Be, Lense obit the material stated we quito a led. an oh eR concludeLesahste the ddeocwiietphart--that dealing vith the effect of asvectesGast NOpOTtsfi: cad at te be fairly complete ond he deltoved 1 wueld aoke a satisfeghtsy Deinge- seened lenticn: Reteris Sin Mr. Brown inquired as whather Dr. Laam thought Dr. Igush would attempt whether a until after he had received the sates tat V. to asbestes which Dr. Gartner had had in mind or whethebelragu veal^' . the entire work severing vitk the affect of asbestos dust on bunun belagu - concentrate only on the part dealing affect affect asbestos asbestos not bunun belagu it Se concentrate concentrate only received the sates sates he wes hoping that ali of it eonbl e paut = a inte eeme cort of shape. Metropolitan obtained Seam agreed these la night conection connection night make make about undertake to the tests with sebestes which Kr Falmal of the Mr. Brown referred the Kizes some fine age and created that Insurance Co. had confusted at obtained from these tests in connection with night make use of the information to the Life 7 weak oo publication of the results we experiments expriments glad have published he hoped example Ig if has definite job to do in Canada to affect the Fisher remarked that the company has been done in relation to the harmful effects Mr. affects of a lot of propagandising that that ropert, relation relation w Se. igneh of asbestos dust and he ewxopurledssdeed tohfemamatteerriiaall help te the company. aleng the lines outlined to Dr. Lanm that he would see the material omt attention Beferring to Dr. Lynch's statement form Mr. T. Breva called to sigulation be se could be put inte publishable which provided that there would his arrangeant with in our the Sarahne Raberatery our cement Remid Remid 1%. turn publication of the results of experiments without to a and point even though the report contatant some materia tion \ in his mos fren eur point' of view we still would probably be willing :eo. ehat published tod favorable the have it published because of Denefit to Ve submitted the Jelne ts Manville wes being oy Hr Frow Vhal Ube submited - Dr. Las aovared dia a 44 ! yw et ae weseceeee ae na cet amu pae ptemee Bere me ww secon ase dust ir Las made the observation that very very low deaths over have resulted from as much He referred to the large umber of cases which he had followed Asbestosis and which allegedly had been soused by the inhalation of asbestos through years age but is all of which he had found the individuals had been affected by other diseases such as cancer Bright's disease tuberculosis etc. and none had died from Asbestosis uncomplicated by something else laboratory back to the progress of the experiments at the Farance a 08 Getting the work is going along in good shape on everybody's projects so far laboratory Gowns verk is concerned The techniciwahno has dus oft theidun stig ng of far 16,004.05)... Sranas. oa tremely proanbd parobbablly tyhe equal of anybody to be found in the Talted. ; There has been no let in the dusting of are the mim area kill led s and the s0en2 bseeacntiornmedffoorrtthee srtesquirHeodwelveenrgththoefsterivmieces of on expert pathologist area S0s 0dnen interpret the findings and that takes time Dr. Lans paid a gloving tribute to Dr. B. H. Paskacroildwhoiin s nd ow iAcv ttihnei gnDdioru evcta rorelokf . , tthhee Fboeunadt atioTnheywhohmadhehad d aeves ry c caosmr pecomptei tentenvteb rpyae tehaod sleogist at farba y tn hecnae me offerval^ During the war Dhre.hLaadnsgeeneundleatrestetheed stehravtiehse awansd ghoaidngfitnoallbyecoemmeergaedpeprermamnentanheeandt mmembeermrbeesreoafrch for the . Research Council Dr. helgene helgene vp to Farmas on Jamary 1762 the National and was still there Dr. Packard to persuade him to reme his duties there with a title of directer in charge of the laboratory If he doce one of his jobs will be to tackle the tremendous backlog of pathological material and interpret - good expert man in the Laboratory this their who thoroughly Another new man had arrived to work in the laboratory at the have is engaged on the material Although they visited there and he too at know how to when they are through their part of the vertheless The ordinating houd is what is missing san go ne further it will save a lot of time and trouble that would to resume his work Primarily the problenomw is one of getting getting might8 8 8 orienting a new nan booking of work and that is going to take considerable time when speaking about the busting of minis he rrefereedfDerrowrnetdoinqudiursteidngwwithitMhr.asasbbeestsostovshootrhewrith diamque earth Lesas thatthat <Seenecvtitihothne mente at Barne vith diatomessus earth Dr. Senen said he changes noted in the lymphaticlymphsatics setic type would later appear In January 1946 the dust conemtrations were increased notable change This was done for it was Bete SS AS Injection experiments inte mimals that is intravenous intravomiar intratracheal and into the heart vere all completed -. time age In general they show that the raw and natural earth caer . i; Dr. Gardner called a Plus 4 Rating on his sale which goes to about 8 co poi~nte trydinite Also complated vere the inhalation experiments with - r5aw Gulite using guinea pigs infected also with a mild type of + He marked changes were shown from this experiment and _ case spread of disease . Tev underway are experiments weing onlsinal earth with intratracheal injection in guinea pigs using Hyfle by the ray refrection method this shows erystobulite This was the earth calcined with soda ash Inhalation experiments were carried on vit^ guiase pige previous to exposure to tuberale infection with tuberale infection and after exposure to tuberale infection experiments will contine for at least one more year alse tubulation experiments with Hyfie $ : ea se, eo ar OT eet ite was felt that th coheiusted venthel af the and, to theeffect thes ooh ste g et M etysee con geeeens ee bet stimulates tubercle infection was the late Dr. Garizer's opinion Dr. L * replied that it was not but that it user user Belohn's impression and that be te osnsidered a very experienced man Kr His inquired further whether there vas may evidence that Dr. Gurtner had reached any mak conclusion kinseif and bie Dr. Lanta negia n tt he i negv atie ve af if earth earth which thought stated that while difficult for anyone obtain check information be thought it wouldwould not difficult difficult W as there writing umbers Farmane covering dtihfefyerent ghere there covering 6 anyone able make a check sample obtain obtain desired desired information informationinformation up stantial stantial one he sualysed chrystabilite Lampes chrystabilite in chrystabilite percentage percentage percentage that that he had Mr. percentage chrystabilite bom however that the Gerbart attributed chrystabilite been been product nhra.l er percentage chrystabilite chrystabilite centained might this chrystabilite oarnHydfie of rigin o originrthe Gerhart reason ample ned and origin Lempes material ample not physiological physiological Kr Se lished lished whether or by physiological effect inhaled the inhaled Wy the chemical make she Dr. observed observed ve made at Sarmas industrial fine coarse affecting affecting Lempes and and was done decision decision to must must be done Flantes Kampes, Flantes os co vant ausCOtne . feate 0 ; a . Morte . . oo wy ats A an ane wie ; STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL - ka Rimtes of keeting Held in Ju ven~ ard'a Office on wednesday afternen gust 6 1947 * 0) reset at the meeting were Kr Jackson cenfimed the fact that the explayes had been incapacitated ever stume Jarunry 1 1947 Doe Viewire Viewire of the films F. Langs pannired that he's he's under not into this m's wigs but the even distribution W Lick cir's Lick film unless was one of is cir's like a sccupational case yet it the other hand typical silicstic it is cir's been quiatfeew lately o: bee Lensa said he will be interested in inclined ha ring but he added I would be inclined : * ees whether phone inquired asebling continue Dr. anythingal io what been remains pointed Hutber AbsequentAbsequent have uld very with ' Dr. Langs is planning on going Y ene ~~...&#@ 8 @ Dr. Large reported briefly on which he had received from Dr. had arrive just stating together stating stating writtenwritten their proposed authorisation authorisation authorisation he that the being the this work @ oct Vandiver Brown < >>: an , o Very truly yours oe. . , ? Union Asbestos & Rubber Co. 7 . Ke . | Ds , 5. 3. Standa yt ME de Hanager Plant 7 1 Fe Qe Pretty WO [oa | Oe ere R. N. Jackson Safety Inginer { getting underway on the of Septe Me certain sapete given furth any guinea pigt bus Fe oar we oy. ' 601 A. J. 7. C. As So J. Hard B. J. Li Pratt MD S^ rt embant embant . ; Hard Hard Cosmine Renville , a wa h =f 4 * Ts 2 his > ar? : eee aa Siu ST 39.1 99320510 R. V. Les , . Asbestos Union Arbitration Proceeding familiar with August Asbested the the meeting that was held in Montreal on Ten are attended by Mr. Duquet and Mr. Campbell the lawyers for the 12 - legal | Johnson's Company and Mr. Trumbly repr^'sentativefor the Ompany in Canada In addition to this Mr. Alfred Penhale the Asbestes Corporation and the following Manville man _ Fil - Vandiver Bre 1. V. Allan C. V. Hite 6. I. Poster Ivan Sabouris A. R. Flaber At this meeting the transcripts in Pranah of the testimony submitted by the Johnem's miem in the arbitration onse held against the Asbestes Corrpeovraiteiwoend Nr | and the Flintkote Company held at Thetford vare Company results of this meeting and there seemed to be three , Duquet spetted the 1. The dust question 2 The subject of wages . The Rand Formala The Companies plan to present their side of the story at a meeting to be hald in Montreal on September 13 14 and 15 We offered our services in any way , hee, Aa n sf . cn ae ester ester * such