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556 Twentieth Congress--National Safety Council with gaNot as an answer, but as a preventive. 1 might recommend the very dose scrutiny of the possible dangers and warn the men against entering into gaseous areas without the necessary equipment. We also try to emphasize tltat to employees particularly in our process alterations, by giving them at least once a year instruc tion m the pressure prune method. You can always get a capable instructor. We emphasize the pressure prone method of resuscitation. We usually catch the men after their shifts and reimburse them tor coming tliere so there is a considerable number of the men entering into that training, and after they have tltat it makes them more conscious of that danger. In case of necessity, although there are plenty of them I have seen get out of there, I would hate to have my life depend on their ability. Inn it does make them safety conscious and in a number of cases it is advantageous. Mr. Berqujst: We may have a break in the line in the ammonia building; the men in there possibly may lie overcome. How do you get Ilian out? Mr. Timm : A* far as the seli-ccmtaincd apparatus is concerned we find we can add the fresh air hose lint t> the gas mask; that is, if the man is overcome. If the man is nverctime in the first place, we can get to him with a twenty-five or fifty foot length of fresh air hose. We have not discovered any case yet where we have' to use a self-contained breathing apparatus, cither a Gibbs or McKay. We use the ammonia canister tvjc of gas mask, with a fifteen hundred or two thousand c. c. canister to j`l Mr. ileRnriST: I think any plant, of any size, ought to have a man drilled in McKay or Gibbs ajrparatus. We recently had a Bureau of Mines man, Mr. Grimes oi Vincennes, Indiana, come up and train sonic oi our men. It seemed we could do with green men: in the use of McKay apparatus, you can train them in a short period of time. We trained them in a month. They.'can go through the process, take the machine a;>art; wc Itrld comjKtitive drills with those men after one month training, three teams: we put them through a smoke room for three minutes, dianging the apparatus, sterilizing, shutting off tle bottle, sterilizing, putting on the goggles, made a complete change of four men in twelve minutes. Mu. Timm: If you have use of tlut lyj of self rescue, it is a fine tiling to train a man. We did lack in 193U train a nan hi the use of the McKay machine. We found it was a two hour machine at that time; a man trying to get into the tank car u-ould lave an aw*ful job cm his lands. Mu. liKttncisT; jn a tank car it is impossible to do that. Wc also use a jkiwct blower. Wc lave a little different situation tian you prob ably do in a chemical plant, because with the gases and carbon munoxide being pre sent you nay lave tltem spread around. With the power blower, if you do not set them down in an atmosphere that is absolutely pure, you arc liable to blow gases or draw gases into the blower and blow them to the men. Du. Ei'Warp G. Meiteh (United States Bureau of Mines. Pittsburgh, Pennsyl vania* : There is a representative here with the Bureau of Mines, with a gas mask exhibit. I invite you people to write in and telj your experiences and ask wlai suggestiin> we can give to solve your difficulties. Tliere are a great many of these diffkuhio we never hear alout and nat'urallv we can not improve the equipment. Frank Scott (Hamlin and Company, New York); I am representing the Con solidated Gas Company in New York. In connection with this question regarding `rescue work, they have cars equipped for emergency service. They have on them litc two hour apparatus and also the half hour oxygen breathing equipment; we re cently have installed one hour apparatus on our larger holdings. I do not think it is generally known tltat they have the one hour oxygen breathing apparatus. The .ADJOURNMENT TWENTIETH ANNUAL SAFETY CONGRESS NATIONAL SAFETY COUNCIL Construction Section Officers 1930-31 Central Chairman--Geuxge Wii.la. Woods Brothers Construction Co.. Lincoln, Ncbr. ,. I'ire-Chairman--\V. G. Wheels*. Building Trades Employers Association, New York City. Secretary--Charles H. Black. Stone and Webster Engineering Corporation. Boston. Mass. Chairman Poster Committee--Robert McKitfxv, General Accident hire and Liiv Assurance Corp- Ltd- Detroit. Mich. Chairman Program Committee--W F. Tujjesixg. IV. K Tubesu> C.. Milwaukee. Wis. Chairman Membership Commillrr--Joseph S. Ruble. H. K. Ferguson Co.. Clcvc- land. Ohio. Chairman Publicity Committee--P. A. l)Avtt*o.v. Chcsebro. Whitman to. Inc., I-mig Island City. N. Y. Xctes-Lettcr Editor and Chairman Statistics Committee--John Kcsskzx, Jr., united Engineers and Constructors Inc- Newark. N. J. Chairman Engineering Committee--J. W. Folliv. Philadelphia Federation oi the Construction Industry, Philadelphia. Pa. Executive Committer--Tnz Officers and \V. K. Austin. W. E. Wood Company. Detroit, Mich. W. R. Richards. The Associated General Contractors of America, Inc- Wash* ington. D. CJ. \Y. Cowfer. The John \Y. Cowpcr Co, Inc., Buffalo. N. A. Tuesday Morning Session October 13, 1931 GEORGE WIDUA, Chairman Woods Brothers Construction Company, Lincoln, Neb. The first session of the Construction Section convened with General Chairman George W'idua presiding. Chairman* Wioua: It is a great pleasure to sec this large assembly and I hid you welcome. I want to say that I think the chairman oi our Program Committee. Mr. Tuhesing. has arranged a fine program, one of the finest that I can remember in the Section, and I think wc will all learn considerable from the speakers who arc to deliver the papers. 557