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american national standards institute,inc. Address Secretary at: National Electrical Manufacturers Association 155 East 44th St., New York, N. Y. 10017 Telephone: 212-682-1500 MINUTES: PLACE OF MEETING: DATE AND TIME: MEMBERS PRESENT: Capacitor Working Group N. R. Clark E. G. Hammer J. F. Kuzela R. D. McClain E. M. Moore A. Pozefsky (CHAIRMAN) Transformer Working Group W. Grogan F. R. Lengefeld E. L. Raab (CHAIRMAN) W. C. Reinhardt A. L. Rickley T. K. Sloat MEMBERS ABSENT: Capacitor Working Group NONE Transformer Working Group D. M. Crabtree MEETINGS OF CAPACITOR AND TRANS FORMER WORKING GROUPS; OF THE ANSI COMMITTEE, C107, ON USE AND DISPOSAL OF ASKAREL AND ASKARELSOAKED MATERIALS O'HARE INN DES PLAINES, ILL. WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 15, 1971 JOINT SESSIONS 10:15 A.M. - 11:30 A.M. 3:30 P.M. - 4:30 P.M. SEPARATE SESSIONS OF THE WORKING GROUPS 11:45 A.M. - 3:30 P.M. Universal Manufacturing Co. McGraw-Edison Power Systems Div. Sangamo Electric Company Westinghouse Electric Corporation Electrical Utilities Company General Electric Company Allis-Chalmers Corporation Union Electric Co. General Electric Company Central Moloney Transformer Div. Colt Industries Doble Engineering Company Westinghouse Electric Corporation 0216542 Department of the Army Cap. & Transf. W/G of ANSI C107 -1- December 15, 1971 TOWOLDMONOQ47765 OTHERS PRESENT: A. **P. **W. A. Barbaro ; / G. Benignus P. Papageorge M. Salazar CDC International Monsanto Company Monsanto Company NEMA Staff Inc. PRESIDING OFFICER: W. P. Papageorge, Chairman ANSI C107 Committee Attended the Joint and Capacitor Working Group sessions only. Attendance shared between all three sessions. I. APPROVAL OF PREVIOUS MINUTES This being the first meeting of these Working Groups, no previous minutes were submitted for approval. II. PURPOSES OF THIS MEETING It was noted that the background leading to the appoint ment of these two Working Groups and the purpose of this meeting was given in the Secretary's letter of November 18, 1971 (EXHIBIT "A"). The two Chairmen's agenda for the Capacitor and Transformer Working Group meetings are attached as EXHIBITS "B" and "C", respectively. It was also noted that a brief outline of the Environ mental Protection Agency's (EPA) National Disposal Site (NDS) Study, was distributed prior to this meeting. A copy of the outline, which was prepared by Mr. Henry Johnson, Acting Project Manager, Hazardous Wastes Project, of the National Environmental Research Center, is attached as EXHIBIT "D". rJOINT SESSIONS | III. BRIEF REVIEW OF DEVELOPMENTS OF INTEREST, SINCE THE SEPTEMBER 14, 1971 MEETING OF THE FULL ANSI Cl07 COMMITTEE Mr. W. P. Papageorge briefed the members on the sub ject. A copy of Monsanto's recent press release on production figures, which was referred to during this briefing, is attached as EXHIBIT "E". Mr. Papageorge also conducted a general review of bases that should be used in developing proposals for the Capacitor and Transformer guidelines, for the members' information in proceeding with the separate Working Group meetings. Cap. & Transf. W/G of ANSI C107 -2- December 15, 1971 0 TOWOLDMONOQ47766 Another joint session was held after adjournment of the separate Working Group meetings, to compare the progress made at each meeting and arrive at a time and place for the next meetings. SEPARATE SESSIONS OF THE WORKING GROUPS IV CAPACITOR WORKING GROUP Dr. A. Pozefskyy Chairman SECRETARY'S NOTE The record of the results of the dis cussions at this meeting is recorded in Mr. R. D. McClain's letter of December 31, 1971, attached as EXHIBIT "F" V TRANSFORMER WORKING GROUP E. L. Raab, Chairman The record of the results of the discussions at this meeting were excerpted from the Chairman's notes, as follows: 1. Raab called attention to EEI Publication 6371 "A-C Network Operations, 1959-1961". Page 4 lists Failure rates for Area Surveyed. 2. Answers to five questions: No Raab Reinhardt 1 5000 3500 2 235 avg. (40-500)Range) 400 3 1 to 1.3% 4 0.2% 1% Less than 0.5% 5 100,000 125,000 - 150,000 Allis-Chalmers (Grogan) & Westinghouse (Sloat) will check above figures with their records. First units were built in 1932 3. Discussion held on disposal of solids and liquid scrap: a. GE has done some study on vapor phase cleaning and results show 85-93% efficiency. Cap. & Transf. W/G of ANSI C107 3 December 15, 1971 TOWOLDMONOQ47767 b. Flushing method of cleaning has proved less efficient. c. Firms identified for liquid and software dis posal were Rollins Perle, Chem-Trol and Globe Metals. E. Raab will take responsibility to write-up. This will include list of companies that handle waste plus a list of disposal methods, backed by efficiency of result. (Items 4 and 6 on agenda). 4. Transformer General, Manufacturing and Repair Guidelines, should cover both manufacturing plants and service facilities, from receipt of liquid to installa tion. T. Sloat will be responsible for investigation and recommendations. Some items to be covered are: a. Mixture of fluid b. Disposal of non-returnable drums c. Treatment facilities employed in handling askarel. d. Handling of spills. e. Filling process (Item 2 of agenda) 5. Operating guidelines for transformer users will be proposed by W, Reinhardt. This will include such things as normal make-up, dealing with failures involving ruptured tank leaks, spills and inspection. Main con cern is environment. Special recognition should be given to submersible type units in vaults. (Item 5 of agenda). 6. Control of water and vapor effluents including recommended limits for water effluents, as well as identification of analytical procedures. To be reported on by W. S. Grogan (Items 3 and 7 of agenda). 7. Liquid and solid disposal services including iden tification of existing facilities and possible develop ment of new facilities will be handled by A. Rickley (Item 8 of agenda) Cap. & Transf. W/G of ANSI C107 -4- December 15, 1971 0215^''^ TOWOLDMONOQ47768 8. Whether or not warning labels should be put on. Transformers and the wording will be investigated and recommended by F. Lengefeld. (Item 9 of agenda). 9. Comments should be mailed to the Chairman for distribution before next meeting, if possible. 10. Standardization of liquid not desirable for power transformers since the range of application is wide and what is best for one application is not necessarily the best for another. 11. The question of available substitutes will not be treated separately but should be covered in the "Fact Sheet". VI. TIME AND PLACE OF THE NEXT MEETING The Working Groups concurred that the next meeting should be at 8:30 A.M., on February 8-9, 1972, at the Marriott Motor Hotel, Chicago, 111. VII. ADJOURNMENT There being no further business before the Working Groups, the meetings were adjourned at 4:30 P.M., having recessed for lunch between the hours of 12:00 P.M. - 1:00 P.M. AMS:dk ATTS: EXHIBITS "A" - "F" A. M. Salazar, Secretary ANSI C107 Committee Cap. & Transf. W/G of ANSI C107 - 5- December 15, 1971 TOWOLDMONOQ47769