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REPORT CAPTIONS:
1. OBJECTIVE 2. PERSONS CONTACTED 3. RESULTS 4. ACTION REQUIRED
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CONTACTED: Rudy Gibas, Chief Metallurgist--Engine Plant; Bill Elliott, Aii't Motallur|ilt --------------------IKfrgo FIEM? H*T1 Hughes.CHenls t,Fuigo Plant; Bill Gaffney, Mww Pwooh.i
Bob Swift, Buyor._________
OBJECTIVES: Thli was a joint call with Raleigh Garcia and Elaar Miaolar to discuaa ------------------------------ Chavy T6**WtEdt'S~nBdlllfg OB their Pydraul l-test.-------------------------------------
----------RES0CTS5------- Tha appdlhtneWWBTlflniny aadi alth Hany Walkos.Chief Metallurgist but
ha was ill. Moat of tha diicuaiion >as with Mario HU|haa who waa the chaalst
----------Who evaluated Pydraul 135 Ahd WWI EES diaafinf repotl nauLluniin ptaisgsna. chlorinate:
Huahoa waa naturally dafanaiva but aaaawd to waia up conaidorably aa the call want on. --------- Ailtfurned out ha did very lima lu aialuaia 1SS.--Ha baaed noat of hia coeelesisne an
hla pravioua work on A-200, a literature survey, aono PCB artlelaa, and probably ssae input ----------fm the Houghton aalaanan [aHMUgh'TIOT~1 notcortaln). Aa it turna out, Hughes waa--
deeply involved in the deelaion to renova A-200 fron tha Forge Plant. In about 1967 a ---------- worker waa rather bagly overcone with Mil WlilB Wortlng iirx"Tes trietod area near aana
laakini A-200. Aa they explained the aituation there waa tone doubt aa to what actually
------- happened"aa they claiaed that thdyVWKtf ceuid not snail anything and did not raallio he
waa being ovarcone with fates until ha got to tha point where he could no longer breathe.
------This iure 3oea~not sound like A-2U0 bdt mi EillWd 1 full investigation by Ifaghea and-----------
hla people in tha laboratory. Hughee and one of tha techniciana procaded to heat up A-200 --------- 'thanaelvea end~tKii~Inhaled sons Of tn"VpM ta WWll for Die flan. Ilughoe tlaina he
ot very reetlaaa that night and that tha other guy ended up sick for two daya and for thia
reason they threw out A-lOu. anan Hughes gbt the US ail he did >u lo check the eeapesi
tion. learned that it contained chlorinated biphenyl, looked up a couple of raferancaa and
---------- wrote his report. Ha did heat it up to observe that white fwaa cane utt but hr did-net
snail then even since he stated he had already had one bad experience with the A-200. Ha ---------- would not say exactly whatreference He Lacked up EM found pheagene, chlorine, end oaidoa
of chlorine but ha did say this la where he got it. Elner Wheeler did a good job of pre-
--------- sontini~our toxicity'studios' oF these nabrial* but *0H Of It want right user thighea1--------
head. The only point ha paid any attention to being the fact that there waa trace anounts
of phosgene (less than S ppn).
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' Af^e'msiiuWehla discussion Hu.hea did atrae that If W* had any Of the-Qther plentr LOU
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! hla report was based on hia own personal previous ex-
'parlance with A-200 and a literature search and that there were ni sctuae_teSti_tL. u
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DICTATE IN SEQUENCE! I. HEADING INFORMATION J. NAMES OF ADDRESSEES S. NAMES OF CARRONEES 4. IMMEDIATE ACTION NEEDED 5. REPORT ON CALL
REPORT CAPTIONS:
1. OBJECTIVE 2. PERSONS CONTACTED 3. RESULTS 4. ACTION REQUIRED
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rn nmv. tht any at thaie nataTlals were present. He alto agreed that if we subaitted another WtWlil uuiiLaUlllig Chlorinated product l>a would let taa neaicai people VOlEd their opinion thia tine and secondly. ha would not rajact it Just bacauaa of tha word chlorlna. However, ha did atata they would not look at anything with PCS* but tan n longer a pmblm.._______________________________________________________________ ________
w. i.ter pet with Rill Gaffnay who triad to raaolva loua of tha political and Motional pmbleaa with thia situation. Gaffney was quita proud of hinself in that wa had eaoaxrasfad
with OUT lattar to their vlca president. statlngthey wars not looking at our fluid. This was his chance to (at even with us and whan ha got thia report ha was dellgnted to ir-iata it thwouehnut Chevrolet as bain a vary hmiardbua.and dangaroua notarial. Naturally aftar wa axplainsd what Hughas actually did, Gaffnay was a littla bit upset with the position that ha was now in as it appeared that ha had meted a little too hastily. Nevertheless, Gaffnay was quits reasonable. Ha was eager to sas us subnit anotaer aaterfll
euggaetaJ writing a ratractionlatter on their findings.__________________________ _
Pollowina that wa net withBob Swift and quickly filled hln in on what all had transpired.
ATTN. GEO. FAGUE: Georgs there was a tremendous snount of ground covered in this call and I think things are reasonably wall resolved hare' now. However, chars is tha poieitlal for
another bis stir if too many people gat on Hughas about his report. You will definitely want to go back to Flynn I 'a sura but probably snoula taix to aaidllh in depth about this first so wa don't gat a two way battle going between these two plants. I think Hughes will cooperate with us if wa don't hln into an eaoarrassing posillM. Algo th... i. .mi the 24000 sallons of Houshton material at Tonawanda that we're aftar and
they seen receptive to give ua another try at it with Pydraul zjo-a.
FUTURE ACTION: This tine we plan to subait Pydraul 230-X as being tha closast non-sasiiing
pwwhwt to what they are uslnt. However, thdrs are a couple of considerations. This tine
wa will subjit technical data first along with predicted decomposition products and
reenmended precautions such as ias nasks for working around fuses, etc. These will be
subuitted to tha medical department pending what Bluer Nhaaler learns rrou tnair corporate
neveewnel about tha interest and capabilities of the local medical people hare. Pace they
have accepted the data and infornation,then we will forward tne saapie. ine smpis should
at h. labeled Pydraul 230-A but instead, given an HCS or other nmber. Essentially what
happened with 1JS is we had lost the ninute they saw the word Pydraul. Once they approve
the -t-rL.l a could always
I1TT it" to Pydraul 230-A.
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