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oV J Minutes GENERAL MEETING Asbestos Textile Institute June 9, 1967 In Attendance: Lucerne Motel, Montreal, Canada AMERICAN ASBESTOS TEXTILE CORP. ASBESTOS CORPORATION LIMITED J *L Rainey Wra. Kaaslcant ji.P. Carson F.E. Leclerc D.F. Ouealy G.F.A. Brink J .'V. Christenbury G.S. Fabel DELL ASBESTOS MINES LIMITED Win. J.W. Smith CARLCCK, INC. R. Dodds-Hebron G.E. Houghton Walter Smith G.W. Smith JOHNS-PANVILIE CORP. E.A. Schuman CANADIAN JOHNS-KANVILLE CO.,LTD. W.C. Atkinson N.W. Hendry I. Barnett W.C. Streib LAKE ASBESTOS OF QUE3EC LTD. C.L. Sheckler E.A. Farrell R.r. Gagnon H.K. TOTTER CO?TAKY. INC. J.A. Gallagher CASSIAR ASBESTOS CORP., LTD. J.D. TicCluer J.D. Christian D.E. Childers TURNER BROS. ASBESTOS CO. LTD. RAYBBSTOS-MANHATTAN. INC. W.r. Deckraan J.A. Brown, Jr. L.C. Williams J.r. Wronski TURNER & NSNALL LTD. B. Lincoln R.B. Smith J.'V. Hawkins TALLNAN-rcCLUSKEY FABRICS CO, J.L. litchell UNIROYAL. INC. S.J. reele, Jr. CAD'VALADER. WICKERSHAM 0. TAFT R.P. Clark "T.Jay Flocken (Legal Counsel) D.T. Austin, Jr. H.M. Willingham ASBESTOS TEXTILE INSTITUTE ii.E. Sunbury (Secretary) GUESTS Norman L. Barr, Atlas Asbestos Co. J.A. Morton, Atlas Asbestos Co. T.J. Smith, A.S.T.I*. H.R. Lynch, Davis & Furber Machine Co. Geo. J. Harris, Harco Chemical, Inc. J.A. Bettes, Jr., Raybestos-Manhattan, Inc .Miautes - General Meeving - continued: ********** Minutes ********** rage -2- 1. President Rainey called the reeling to order at 9:45 A.M., and asked each rerson in attendance to stand and identify himself and his company affiliation. He expressed, on behalf of the members, our deep appreciation for the kind invitation from the "miners" to hold this meeting in Canada, and for their splendid hospitality and superb arrangements for our group visitation to Expo 67 on the previ ous day. Our a ncere thanks are extended to Asbestos Corporation Limited; Bell Asbestos Mines Limited; Cassiar Asbestos Corporation Ltd.; Johns-Manville of Canada; and Lake Asbestos of Quebec, Ltd., for their most generous "hosting" of the reception and luncheon at Expo 67 on June 8th. Particularly appreciated was the fine job done by Mr. Wm. J.W..Smith, chairman of the "Miners" sub-committee, in ar ranging the many details incidental to transportation of our members to Expo 67, free ticket of admission, and the grand reception and luncheon held in the Quebec PavilionJ It proved to be a most enjoy able and never to be forgotten occasionl 2. The minutes of the last meeting were presented for reading. Mr. J.V7. Christenbury moved that reading be omitted; seconded by Mr. Vtf.C. Streib. So voted. 3. The Financial Renort was presented by Vice President Schuman due to the absence of Treasurer Tartucci. Mr. Atkinson moved it be ac cepted; seconded by I`r. Feele, and so voted. The report is attached to these minutes. % 4. The Fibre Producers Report was given by Mr. J.D. Christian, Pres ident of the Cassiar Asbestos Corporation. !Y. Christian, in commenting on the present situation, said that to day's high level of demand is catching up with the supply, and as a consequence some grades are "tight" in respect to certain of the spinning grades. Suggested that it would be advisable for spinners to check with their sources of supply about forward requirements for special grades of spinning fibres. 5. In lieu of a prepared talk, Legal Counsel T.Jay Flocken asked if there were any questions from the floor. This proved to be an inter esting innovation - quite a fev; questions were asked - and Mr. Flock en replied to each at considerable length. The success of this ini tial trial justifies its repetition by Counsel Flocken at some future meeting. 6. Mr. Harold R. Lynch, Davis & Furber Machine Co., North Andover, Mass., gave a Technical Talk entitled; "Researching a Fresh Approach for the Carding of Asbestos Fibers, and the Promising New Rubber De sign for Condensing Asbestos Roving." Mr. Lynch said that his company had developed a carding machine for synthetic fibers that would produce more pounds per hour than woolen or worsted cards. Now have 275 units in operation on synthetic fib-r. Believe they have basic concept of right approach for asbestos fiber ana his company proposes to give it top priority in their developn^n and engineering work. Some details are still to be settled such as type of card clothing, speeds, number of rolls, doffers, etc.. Did rf . Minutes - General Meeting - continued: Page -3- encounter difficulty on trial runs of new card using asbestos fiber experiments are being conducted at both North AAdover, Jiass., and Charlotte, N.C. Has one report of a very successful spinning test at a southern asbestos plant* His company solicits adviceand coop eration of asbestos plants to help bring this carding machine devel opment to the most successful conclusion possible, and for the mutu al benefit of all* The second part of Mr. Lynch's talk was devoted to the Rub Aprons used for dondensing the asbestos roving as it comes from the carding machine. The cost of the chrome tanned leather aprons is high there is a limited supply of suitable bull-hides and these have to be bought at auction in Spain or other parts of the European conti nent; none are available elsewhere. Each hide has to be individual ly inspected before purchase. While price for chrome leather aprons is high, there is virtually no profit to Davis fit Furber Co. in sup plying them due to the high claims for alleged defects, short life, or whatever. About two years ago Davis & Furber began to look for a satisfactory replacement for leather rub aprons - one that would not glaze too quickly, not be unduly affected by atmospheric changes, and be free from flat spots, glued laps, or hard "back-bone" area. At present it appears that a grooved apron is necessary, and diamond pattern of grooving is best. The number of grooves, and depth of grooves has some relation to the cut number of the roving being produced, at least that is the tentative thinking from experiments to date. There are still some obstacles, for example, pure asbestos roving <no organic content) and also the production of core roving. Hr. Lynch asked cooperation of the industry in furthering the test ing of possible replacements for leather rub aprons, saying that only thru such cooperation could success be attained. In response to a question from the floor, Mr. Lynch stated that his company had tried to work with DuPont's CORFAH material, but found it unsuitable for rub apron use. President Rainey thanked Mr* Lynch for his fine talk, and many fa vorable comments were made about it by various members following the meeting* 7. The Committee Reports x*rere given by the respective chairmen as listed below. The full text of their reports is attached to these minutes; Air Hygiene & Mfg. Committee - V/.C. Atkinson, Chm. Sales Promotion Committee - E.A. Scliunan, Chm. Technical Committee - J.O. McCluer, Chm. Fiber Testing Committee - J.P. Wronski, Chm. 8* President Rainey extended congratulations to Mr. W.W. Oughtred, on his recent election as President of Asbestos Corporation Limited. Mr* l\vm Carson offered to convey this to Mr. Oughtred, as he was not present. () ) Minutes - General Meeting - continued: Page -4- 9. Tresident Rainey paid tribute to Mr# Geo.W. Snith who retired from the presidency of Bell Asbestos Mnes Ltd. last November, and expressed our gratification that he was in attendance at this meet ing. 10. President Rainey presented Mr. Staton J. Peele, Jr., with a "Certificate of Appreciation" in the form of a handsome plaque. Mr. Peele, who served the Institute as president in 1963 and 1964, and as chairman 6f the Sales Promotion Committee for two years prior to that, will not be active in A.T.I. due to a realignment of his duties at UniRoyal, Inc. Mr. Peele responded to the presentation in a most suitable manner, and expressed his deep appreciation for the plaque, and his regret that he could n6t continue to be active in A.T.I. 11. There being no further business to come before the meeting, it was adjourned for luncheon, to which the wives of members had been invited. This proved to be a most enjoyable affair, enhanced by the thoughtful presentation of a corsage to each lady on behalf of the "Miners", for which the ladies were most appreciative. Follow ing luncheon the meeting was addressed by President Rainey who thanked the "Miners" for their splendid and generous hospital ity in entertaining A.T.I. members and their wives at Exno 67 the previous day. 12. Meeting adjourned. Respectfully submi itted H.js. ounDury, aecrei^try S32ST0S TEXTILE INSTITUTE Report of Funds May 8. 1967 Ealance on Band at Last Report. January 10. 1967 General Fund Savings Fund Fetty Cash Fund v 447.64 19504.74 80.57 V 19852.75 Receipts To Savings Fund (Interest - 4 mos.) To General Fund (Book Sales) To General Fund (Handbook Acct.) To General Fund (1967 Dues) 285.00 (Fst.). 127.80 6527.72 8750.00 Total On Hand and Received Disbursements Legal Retainer (5 mos ending 2/28/57) Legal Expense ( M " " ) Secretary's salary ( 4 mos) F. 1.0.7*. Tax ( 1st Qtr. 1967) Secretary's travel Office rent ( 4 mos.) Exhibit expense Kandbook expense ( 3rd Edition) Printing C: office supplies Stenographic expense Lieeting expense (February 1967 ) Telephone ( 4 mos.) Petty Cash -vouchers (289-309 incl.) 500.00 25.80 478.00 31.50 130.20 300.00 40.24 7051.98 112.01 100.00 803.9S 155.24 75.44 Balance On Hand as of iiay 8, 1967 Funds General Fund (Bank Statement-Hay 8,1957) 5924.20 Savings Fund 19589.74 (*) Petty Cash Fund 4.93 15490.52 0 35323.27 9804.40 25518.87 Total Funds Assets as of T.ay B. 1967 General Fund & 5924.20 Savings Fund 19589.74 Petty Cash on Hand 4.93 Accts. Receivable (Book Sales) 48.51 n " ( Dues for 1967 ) 500.00 " (Handbook Acct.) 321C.01 Postage on Hand 4.50 Furniture C Equipment ('Fomina! Value) 1.0': Total Assets Liabilities (Hone) V 25518.87 i 29290.69 Let Lorth 29290.69 (*) Includes ^285.00 interest estimated for period 1/1/67-4/30/67 /V V E.2. Sunbury, Asst. Treasurer u Minutes ASBESTOS TEXTILE INSTITUTE Air Hygiene and Manufacturing Committee June fit 1967 Lucerne Hotel - Montreal* Canada Attending Members: W.C. Atkinson Chairman C.L. Sheckler L.C. Williams R.B. Smith J.A. Gallagher H. Willingham Absent: II. Walter T.O. HcClnskey L. Garrison K.W. Nelson A .C Link Johns-Manville Troducts Corp. ti it it H Raybestos-Manhattan Inc. li.K. Porter Inc. Uni-Royal Inc. American Asbestos Textile Corp. Tallman-MeCIuskey Fabrics Co. Garlock Inc. American Smelting & Refining Uni-Royal Inc. Bausch & Lonb Automatic Dust Counter At the previous meeting the Board of Governors was asked to consider the purchase of a 40-2 Automatic Dust Counter for use by the member companies. The Board of Governors, in turn, asked for some detailed information on which to base a decision. The Committee revie\*ed the various advantages of the machine among -which v;ere its flexibility of use, simplicity - no training required, reproducibility - the counting is automatic and eliminates the human error. In addition, with the recording attachment it makes it pos sible to monitor a specific area over an extended period of time. It was decided that the Committee would control the distribution of the machine and it was understood that all results from its use would be reported to the Committee. Arrangements for the transfer of the machine from one company to the next will be arranged between the two members. It was also decided that there would be no fee charged for its use by member companies. The Board of Governors, approved the purchase and authorized the Chairman to negotiate the purchase. Asbestos Textile Industry Health Regulations in Great Britain Mr. C.L. Sheckler read a list of proposed regulations for the manu facture and use of asbestos textiles in England. The list has been submitted to the industry for review and comment. In brief, they are proposing the manufacture of asbestos textiles shall be a totally enclosed operation in which the operators will never be exposed to any visible dust. All surfaces, building and machine, shall be polished and resist dust accumulation. All Minutes - Air Hygiene and Manufacturing Committee Page -2- materials shall be handled and transported in sealed containers. Vacuum cleaners shall not exhaust air into the building. The Committee found the recommendations impractical and extreme. Hov'ever'. there seems to be no doubt that the British government Will attempt to enforce them. V/.C. Atkinson 4 Chairman iinutcs O > SAL IS T'X'l CT70ir COJ". IT7EE 13 STING A j3ESTf',i TEXTILE INSTITUTE June E, 1967 At LUCE31 !E MOTEL, fc^CNTREAL, CANA')A Attending our meeting were Messrs. J.L. Rainey and J Christenbury of American Asbestos Te-tile Corp., . J.A. 3rown, Tr. of Raybestos Manhattan, Inc,, S.J, Peele, Jr, and R.r. Clarke of U.S. Rubber Co,, J.L. Mitchell of Tallman McCluskey Fabrics Inc., P.J. Flocken (legal counsel), li.E. Sunbury (secretary) and E.A, Schuman of Johns-I!anville, The four display cabinets are currently on loan to Michigan State University until October, 1967, At present there is no specific place to send then as yet at the termination of their stay at Michi gan State, The cabinets need refurbishing and whether money will be spent for this or utilized to better advantage in some other promo tional activity has not yet been decided. It was reported that the asbestos textile volume from Japan seems to be increasing. In addition to asbestos cloth, we now find asbestos tape coming into the U.S. The cloth and tape appear to be accept able products and sell for around 70<1 lb. There has even been some aluminized asbestos cloth for the safety clothing market come in from Japan. Some of us have even seen an asbestos metal reinforced yarn made by the Japanese using 5 grade fiber. The 3rd Edition of the Asbestos Textile Handbook has,,been printed and distributed to all member companies. This handbook is self-sup porting and no charges will be applied to the A.T.I. This edition had 12,534 copies printed at a unit cost of 66,3 whereas the previ ous 1961 edition had 15,125 copies printed at a unit cost of 72,8, The current edition is, therefore, 9% lower than the 1961 edition despite a smaller number of copies printed and general increases in materials and labor, iir. VJ.S. HchJg'H and all others who worked on the handbook should be complimented on putting out a high quality book at such a reasonable cost. It was proposed that the A.T.I. buy extra copies of the Asbestos magazine and have them sent on a regular basis to prospective asbes tos textile customers. Mx. Christenbury of American Asbestos Textile Corp. is to contact the magazine and report to the Sales Promotion Committee at our next meeting. It was agreed that our Secretary, Mr. Sunbury, from now on v*ill send in a monthly business condition report of the Asbestos Textile indus try to the Asbestos magazine, Staton Peele, Jr. is being reassigned by his company and will no longer participate in the asbestos textile branch of the busine^r. In appreciation of his guidance and loyalty during the past few years the Board of Governors personally presented Mr. Teele with a yachting vfrist watch suitably inscribed from the Board members. Welcomed to the Sales Promotion Committee was Mr. Richard P. Clark, replacing Mr. Peele, as UniRoyal's representative. E.A. Schuman, Chairman o MINUTES: Asbestos Textile Institute Technical Committee Report June a, 1967 The meeting washeld at LucerneMotel Annex, Montreal, Canada HIAATTENDANCE: VJilliam Maaskant Dan F. Quealy J.tt'.. Hawkins I. Barnett G. . Houston D. T. Austin J. D. HcCl&er Walter Deckraan Paul Smith -- American Asbestos Company - American Asbestos Company - Raybestos-Manhattan, Inc. - Johns-IIanville Corporation - Garlock, Inc. Uniroyal,Fiber fc Textele Xmc. . - H. K. Porter Companv, Inc. - Turner & News11 limited - ASTM SUBJECTS DISCUSSED: Revision of ASTM Specifications D 299 and D 37$ Since the last regular meeting in February, the committee had an intermediate meeting on Hay 11th. and 12th. at ASTM Headquarter, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. On the first day of this meeting, Thursday, further revision vas made on D 299, Yarn, wherein the discussion was based on comnemts and recommendations from Dr. Scroggie*s Sc-6 Committee, most of which were accepted, and bv way of this discussion, the 6th. Draft of D 299 was set up. Dr. Scroggie met with the committee on that day, and it was believed by all members present that this draft was a very acceptable version which would require very little editorial change. On the second day, Friday, of this meeting, the committee set up the 1st. Draft of D 375, Roving. The reason for selecting P.ovins next was due to it's similarity to D 299. Revision of ASTM Specification D 1118 Also, on Friday of this meeting, Paul Nicodemus met with the committee and D 1118, Test for Magnetic Rating, was discussed with Paul Nicodemus leading the dircussion Since this will be a long range project, it was decided to start the project with . ``Bound robin" test wherein John Hawkins, who is chairman of the Subcommittee, offered to prepare the samples. There were to be two sets of samples, one set for the Kapes Magnetic Analyzer, 10 gram sample, and one set for the T. & N. Magnetic Analyzer, 15 gram samples. Samples were to be prepared and sealed so that the samo identical samples could be circulated and tested by all members. Each *>et of samples were to be prepared from asbestos fibers of the following 9 oJ MINUTES* TECHNICAL COMMITTEE approximate magnetic rating* 0.25, 0.75, 2.0, and lx.O MR, it being understood that the samples in one set would not necessarily be of the exact HR as those of the other set. These were to be sent to all^members of A.T.I. and Sub committee A-U who have the ASTM and/or T. & N. instrunent(s). Members were to test samples, report to John Hawkins, and send samples on according to a pre arranged routing. Included in the series of tests were to be testing the set of standards furnished with the T. St N. instrument and testing of a set of standards prepared by the late Dr. Shaw for the ASTM instrument. In attendance at the Hay 11th. and 12th. meeting were: William Haaskant................ American Asbestos Company................. ....May 11th. St 12th. J. W. Hawkins...................... Raybestos-Manhattan, Inc...........................May 11th. St 12th. I. Barnett............................ Johns-Manville Research Center...............May 12th. Phil Rogers.......................... Johns-Manville Research Center...............May 11th. G. E. Houghton.................... Garlock, Inc.................................................. Hay 11th. & 12th. Gary Garrison...................... Garlock, Inc........................ ^.....................May 11th. L 12th. D. T. Austin...................... Uniroyalj Fibex*"^ (Textile.-?W5-r. *............May Uth. & 12th. J. D. ixcCluer............ H. K. Porter Company, Inc.........................May 11th. L 12th. H. E. Sunbury...................... Asbestos Textile Institute.......................Hay 11th. & 12th. P. Smithl.............. .............. ASTM.................................................................. Hay 11th. & 12th. Dr. A. G. Scroggie............ ASTM.................................................................. May 11th. P. 0. Nicodenus.................. General Electric Company...........................May 12th. P.evision of ASTM Specification D 1118 At the committee's present meeting of June 8th., the Fiber Testing and Technical Committees met Jointly for a brief tine and re-discussed the project on magnetic rating and "round robin" test. The decision reached at this Joint meting was that since the Fiber Testing Committee had already sent out to all members samples for the T. & N. instrument with detailed instructions for the test, that it would be less confusing to follow through on this series of tests before embarking on a new series as planned at the May 12th. meeting of the Technical Committee. Samples were distributed to all member early in the year by the Fiber Testing Committee consisting of asbestos fibers over a range of M. R.s accompanied with instructions for testing the samples. Samples were to be tested by rotating 90, 180, and 270 to ascertain effect of sample position. Also the effect cf adjacent bodies was to be determined by placing a heavy steel pipe near the T* & N. instrument to see what effect this would have on the reading. -2- oJ MINUTES* TECHNICAL COMMITTEE Revision of ASTM Specification D 299 and D 37$ Following the May 11th. and 12th. meeting, the 6th. Draft of D 299 and the 1st. Draft of D 375 as set up at that meeting vere sent to Dr. Scroggie for comments. Replies on both vere received prior to our present meeting. Most of the changes recommended were accepted in D 299 and by reason of the similar ity of the two specifications, the recommended changes in D 375 would be equally acceptable. These two will be rewritten as the 7th. Draft of D 299 and the 2nd. Draft of D 375 and after a circulation for possible discrepancies, will be submitted for letter ballot to A-h prior to their fall meeting. Questions came up from Dr. Scroggie and Mr. B. Lincoln regarding the following: 1) Should separate columns be inserted in the yarn and roving Tables for meters per k-ilogram and for tex numbers $ Paul Smith consulted the latest ASTM ruling and found that conversion factor in foot notes will suffice. 2) To use - 10/S tolerance for yards per pound on single yarn, on average of five bobbins and withdraw tolerance on individual test. This is in contrast to the current specification of * Q% on the average test and * 15% on the individual test. The comnitteeis decision was to retain the present tolerance. 3) The suggestion that a new Note 1: be inserted which refers' to D 12Uh, Recommended Practive for Designating Yarn Construction was not accepted by the committee. Committee1s decision was that it applied to cotton and not to asbestos. It would conflict and confuse. L) Are the illustrations "S" and "Z" for twist necessary? The opinion of the committee was that they are necessary and are essential to readers. The committee set August 17th. and 18th. as the next intermediate meeting of the Technical Committee in Atlanta. Paul Smith 'is making a meeting room reservation for these dates at the Marriott Motor Hotel. J. D. McCluer Chairman of the Technical Committee 3 Minutes: / TBER TESTING COMMITTEE v' June 8 - 9, 1967 Lucerne Motel, Montreal Canada Attending: G.F.A.Brink D.E.Childers J.D.Christian -R .Dodds-Kebron E. A.Farrell B.Lincoln W.Smith W.C.Streib J.Uronski Asbestos Corp., Ltd. H.K.Porter, Inc. Cassiar Asbestos Corp., Ltd. Bell Asbestos Mines, Ltd. Lake Asbestos of Quebec, Ltd. Turner & Newall, Ltd. Bell Asbestos Mines, Ltd. Johns-Manville Corp. Raybestos-Manhattan, Inc. Subjects Discussed 1. The first part of the meeting was held jointly with the Technical Committee members to discuss the Magnetic Rating test. The Technical Committee is currently considering re-writing this test for ASTM (D-1118). The Fiber Testing Committee is also looking into the possibility of re-writing this procedure, which is given in the Test Manual and is essentially the same as the ASTM procedure. At the last meeting, the Fiber Testing Committee de cided to run a number of round robin tests to measure the degree of variation that exists between and within laboratories in tests measuring the magnetite 'content of fibers. The Technical Committee agreed that it x^ould be best to await the results of these tests before pro ceeding with further efforts at revising the ASTM procedure. About half of the participants of the round robin have completed the tests and reported on them. It is anti cipated that all tests will be completed by the next meeting and that meaningful data from the tests will be available at that time for a critical evaluation of current methods for measuring magnetite content of fibers. 2. Mr. Christian suggested the need for including statements in the Testing Manual that would caution users on the limitations to be placed on interpreting results obtained from the tests.. He proposed to submit formal suggestions $t the next meeting 3. The Encyclopedia of Industrial Chemical Analysis is soon to publish a section in volume six on tests pertaining to asbestos. Raybestos-Manhattan was asked to contribute to this section. It was suggested that any A.T.I. member asked to contribute articles on asbestos testing in this publication in the future might first wish to present their contribution to appropriate committees within the A.T.I. .1 for review. Such a review might produce suggestions that could result in a presentation representative of the views of the asbestos industry. Respectfully submitted, J. Wronski