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' TESTIMONY REGARDING 16 CFR Parts 1304 and 1305
RESPIRABLE FREE-FORM ASBESTOS Proposal to Ban Certain Patching Compounds and Artificial-Emberizing.:;
Materials (Embers and Ash}
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As Published in the FEDERAL REGISTER, Vol. 42, No. 146 - Friday, July 29, 1977
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Presented by Harrison B. Rhodes Union Carbide Corporation Metals Division Niagara Falls, New Yorte 14302 August 15, 1977
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Harrison B. Rhodes and I speaking on behalf of the
Union Carrflji^woratlon where 1 hold the position of Technology ttanager the "Cali4^|p^tos Department. Hy education is lo the field, of Chemical-; Engineer1**^miWX hold the degree of Dr. of Science from Columbia University.
For the past four years my assignment has been in the area of asbestos health and regulatory matters and has also included research on monitoring techniques. I am currently serving the Asbestos Information Associ-ation/North America as
Chairman of the Standards and Technical Committee.
. Union Carbide Corporation has been actively engaged, since 1963, in
the mining and milling of asbestos ore at facilities in central California.
The asbestos fiber produced is marketed throughout the United States and in
many foreign countries. One of the principal applications for this asbes^^W
this country has been in tape-joint compounds. We do not ourselves manufacture
such compounds, however, nor do we manufacture any other asbestos-containing
finished products.
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As the Commissioners are well aware, there has been a tremendous
flood of "paper" generated in relation to the asbestos regulatory matters
under consideration here. We believe that several crucial issues have been
lost in the flood and would like to take the.opportunity today to address
these issues, as follows;
Hook at all of the commercial and consumer exposure data
geilable today including some recent consumer tests and also
" some OSHA compliance Inspection results.
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2. An examination of the risk estimation model proposed by
Dr. Bayard of the CPSC staff in terms of actual consumer
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injury as required by the statute-and the absolute
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of one type or another is present throughout the air, water
and earth of this planet and the overwhelming consequences of
a ban of ubiquitous material such as this without a precise
definition of what Is banned, a well specified analytical
procedure, and some allowable levels other than zero.
5. The presentation of a suggested alternative approach to
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protect the consumer from unreasonable risk of injury which
is more realistic, sure workable and more enforceable than ^
the proposed total ban.
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It should be emphasized that this discussion will deal directly with,
and be presented, in terms of tape-joint compounds. Spackling compounds are.
similar in composition and use, but are applied in so much smaller amounts
that the potential for significant exposure is virtually non-existent.
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Emberizing kits are outside the ftstd of our expertise and will not be
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board.was developed around 1880-1900. It did not come
into widMl^^EptlT World War II when the need for houses and other buildings
.made this qilcfer,"less complex construction method very popular. Usage has., "
grewn substantially since that time and drywall construction is now used in a. ^
majority of residential construction and in a wide variety of commercial and
public buildings. Initially, ordinary plaster was used to embed and cover the
.?:tap* to make the joint between the boards, but in. the mid 40's specially formulated
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juui were in broad general-:use-by 1960i * The^isbcstos content of nuds in general
droppf during -the 70*s to approximately the.range of 2-7%. Tape-joint compounds
containing ashestos have thus been in widespread use for 30-75 years. Over the
first 15 years of this period the main material used.was provided dry and con
tained relatively high levels of asbestos, l.e., 10-15%.
The Commission's consultant, A.` T. Kearney, Inc.* estimates that
today's annual value of shipments of patching compounds Is 80 million dollars.
At an average price of $4.50 per can. This Is equivalent te-about 18 mill fen .
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cans. The formulations we have seen cost about 20-30^ per can in raw material
costs to replace asbestos so that the added burden, just to cover raw materials
cost is about 4.5 million dollars annually. This cost, plus arty percentage
markups used, would be added to the cost of the structure and would carry the
normal financing charges over the life of the indebtedness. ?tr should* also '
be noted that about 10,009 tons per year of asbestos with a produet value of `
about one million dollars were used in this application prior to the decline
that has resulted frqpi actions of a variety of governmental agencies. We
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tal of 5.5 million dollars annually presents a reasonably
reliabWfl^^HBStfmate of the direct economic effects of the replacement of asbes6osy fn?lS|ie-fe1 nt compounds. The-added- effect of the poor performance % of many of the asbestos-free muds has not been considered.
assessment of the risb that needs to be related to this cost burdfcn^ft'is important to have a reliable estimate of the level of consumer exposure* AIT of the available information on exposure has been assembled and
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ta th^August 29*^1577, deadline for written caaoents.
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Tho datm presented are contained,Iff'-five reports:
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1 ,, The tests. conducted by Rohl et alUv )* at one location in New York, NY.
Thtsvis the data cited by the petitioners.
2. A survey of a variety of sanding conditions made by Rhodes and Ingalls^ and cited extensively by the Asbestos Information
Association/North America in their response to the petition.
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. piled by Equitable Environmental Health Incorporated as part
of a study of asbestos exposure in the construction industi
4. A report submitted to the CPSC by Union Carbide&jC&rporation
July 14, 1977, covering consumer exposure during-a typical
spackling and a moderate size drywall installation operation.
5. A study by Union Carbide Corporation which has just been finished orranother consumer installation of drywall c^a large roo* including the ceiling.
The results odtfefs survey-are summarized in the two figures you are now recelvliigV."~gtgpre bashaws along the vertical axis, the airborne adBestos^f^^HH^iiW* tn ftbers per cubic centimeter longer than 5 micrometers
thatoeetri|HK|St breathing zone of the-operator during the sanding opera
tion. Usually a-wmber of samples were collected at each location. The dark, bar shows the range of concentrations found" with, the arithmetic average of
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tft* left are those of Rohl efc al that were cited ins, jtfliE These were obtained In one test in New York City.
of 2B fibers/cc for four days, was used by Dr. Bayard In
his projection of risk to be discussed later.
' The next group of results were obtained by the Union Carbide Corpora
tion in a survey of commercial operations in eight different cities. Results
range from about 0.2 to 3 flbers/cc. These fiber counts have been spot checked
"blind" by two other laboratories. The EEH and OSHA compliance data shown
next fall In the same range as those of Union Carbide.
The consumer-use data are shown on the far right. The first case
is for extensive spackllng and the installation of three panels of drywalK
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The second is' for three walls and the ceiling of a large basement recreation
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room. Thls^mud contained 2.6% asbestos by weight on a dry basis. Exposures in
these tests were only 0.2 to 1.0 flbers/cc >5y, which correspond roughly to
the lower end of the range found for commercial use.
Two other operations in tape-joint installation present the possibility
of exposure to free-forn asbestos fiber; the addition of dry powder product to
water and the cleanup after sanding. Data for these operations are shown in
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commercial use. It is very important to understand that all of the concentrations shown
occurred during the active pursuit of the particular operation, 1.e. sanding, wet^out, or cleanup. These operations generally take place for a moderate portion oftfced&y with concentrations at much lower values for the rest of the 8 hour
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staff members, Dr. Stephen Bayard, has developed a modeT^ i ... .
to estimate the risk of respiratory cancer from low level exposure to asbestos
from taping compounds. This model is patterned on that described in a paper by Enterline and Henderson^ except that Dr. Bayard has made an assumption that the
effect of dose is cumulative. This builds a geometric increase in risk into the
model. We question whether there is any basis for this assumption, but do not
feel that this is an appropriate place to debate the Issue. It is of more
interest to use this model, which is heavily biased toward predicting a high risk
with the highest exposure just noted for consumer use, i.e., &2'f1ber/cc THh for
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Following Dr. Bayard's directions dn page 3, Part C Of the reference
cited for the highest time-weighted average of 0.2 fibers/cc for two days found
for the consumer applications we obtain an annual exposure of 0.004 fibers/cc
mtort per day for one year, aAlatent period to tumor of 621 years, and zero deaths of
asbestos induced cancer in the 40-year period considered. If the period examined
is extended to 100 years, the number of deaths predicted would be 0.000003 which
is still far less than a single death. These estimates are probably on the
high side <fcaSfeassumptions used In the model but since an exposure of 0.004
fi tierstlnguishable from background, the values found not unreasonable
Iso instructive to point out that if we assume an exposure
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of 5 fibers/ccfor two full 8-hour days, which isAabove that found in commercial
use, the yearly rate becomes 0.1 fiber/cc. This yields a median time to tumor
of 212.5 years and an asbestos induced cancer estimate of 0.02 deaths. We
question whether these are the unreasonable risks referred to in the statute.
Memorandum. to Dan Clay dated June 3, 1977. 2. Pre^snedT>t Pinehurst, NC, March 12, 1976.
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respirable, free-fonn asbestos under Sections 8 and 9 of
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Safety Act. To quote Section 8:
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0) a consumer product Is being, or will be, distributed in
commerce and such consumer product presents an unreasonable risk
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Act would adequately protect the public from the unreasonable
risk of injury associated with such product,
the Commission may propose and. In accordance with section 9, promulgate a rule declaring such product a banned hazardous product." (Emphasis added.)
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And from Section 9, Paragraph 2 (c):
(2) The Commission shall not promulgate a consumer product
safety rule unless it finds (and includes such finding In the
rule)--
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reasonably necessary to eliminate or reduce an unreasonable
risk of injury associated with such product;
0>) that the promulgation of the rule is in the public
kferest; and (C) In the case of a rule declaring the product a banned \
hazardous product, that no feasible consumer product safety
standard under this Act would acequately protect the public
from the unreasonable risk of injury associated with such
product." (Emphasis added.)
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Coraatsslon the complex and soul-searching problem t- '*t
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The comnents of your ovm staff on the strength of the evidence used
to support the ban is well summarized by three sltiatet quotations from the record:.
'The petitioners believe that higbi-qpaittlties of asbestos-
fibers remain in the air after theses products-are sanded and
the fibers substantially Increase therislr.of mesothelioma and
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"The petitioners have addressed problems:which' arise4from being exposed to asbestos fibers occupationally and environ mentally. However, they have not cited any concrete evidence.of the hazard which Is tied directly to the products for which they seek a ban. It merely cited th* fact that- these products do contain asbestos fibers and they-itave cited the fact that
asbestos fibers in otbe* situations have been linked to lung
disease. We? question Whether the evidence presented in the is sd^Wctefe^tcr show that ttidSe substances may cause
Eel personal Injury or substantial illness during or as [gate result of any customary or reasonably foreseeable handling or use." (Emphasis added;
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pttWonj^^k. taken as evidence of> possible !vr ' ' ` sarltv.--awolMge-Lcause-effect relationship. How-
themselves, they-would not stand op to statistical
scrutiny In.predicting a correlation between brief exposure to
asbestos and the later development of cancer caused by such
exposure." ^ (Emphasis added.)
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Substantial evidence has been presented here that the cocmarcial
use data upon which the petitioner** based their allegations Is substantially
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duration, and when averaged over a year or more are notdfatiijgdshable
aribient background. We know of no evidence that suck casuaY^lbw exposure^
represents any hazard so that the question becomes one of a banning action
based on the existence of a possible, but not provenrisk, which if
it exists at all differs only slightly from zero.
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You are probably aware^that this question of the regulation of
carcinogens is a major issue t^^before virtually all of the governmental
regulatory agencies. The FWsai^dftrln ban has received wide publicity and
OSHA is deeply involved witir eprgpcrsal for a generic regulation approach to carcinogH^HjuearingSvOn benzene are now in progress. All of this activity
does nen^^^p^ffnd answerste our immediate problem, but we.are at least"
Tfe problem we face originates in the so-called "one-hit" theory of cardnogenisis. In simplest outline, this theory holds that:
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=*. decreased-te.^wryTow levels. Thera=;ts one school1 of though; and this. H
embraced bfmffcsC the regulatory agencies* th^ao completely safe-level. tfsts*
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rmcAud wftec* the body's defense mechanisms can effectively combat the altered ^"growth does not occur. Supporters of this position cite* ce of certain netals and hormones that are essential to the
human body In trace amounts but at higher levels are carcinogens. - Unfortunately* there Is no way to demonstrate the correctness of
either view since there is a background level of cancer in both man and experimental animal. As the dosage and the corresponding number of cancers decreases one point of view Is that the occasional-cancer from the specific agefit still occurs but cannot be distinguished from the'background while ' the ether is that the added cases do not occur. These views can be partially resolved with the model of Enterline discussed previously* 1 ,e* a-very low exposure may cause a cancer but the time to t With an expected life span of 70 years this* a safe threshold exposure, at least until life expectancy approaches 150 years. Since there is no provable scientific answer to this risk question* we are really left with a socio-political rather than a scientific decision to consider.
The fundamental question, then* is whether a total absence of risfci approach to regulation is appropriate or more particularly will be acceptable, to society. In our lives we undergo a succession of risks, some knowingly and some unknowingly. Tfio American: people have always indicated a willingness to tab* rtsfcflHmjNfericed by such things as the widespread use of the automobile* srokingrJj|HKrimproper diet* and even the home as it is today. We believe . that the zero'rlsk concept, when it begins to impact on jobs and the way of*life of a substantial number of people will not be acceptable and will have to be modified to balance risks against benefits in a realistic fashion. This**; sortrof balance rather than regulation by cliche, "its a carcinogen so ban it", shotfW'he applied here. The benefits from the continued use of asbestos in--
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sent of the ban as presently proposed In the. Federal Register. These questions
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there has been a continuing debate on what is asbestos and wb*t is an asbestos
3^j^fiber Asbestos, when narrowly defined. In a way that wf11satisfy the
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precise minerologists is ubiquitous in the atmosphere *aI<Soughv3*nrany
occurs at very low, but not zero, concentrations. When-the.definition is
broadened to include all amphibole chips which are longer than-5 microns and
have a length to diameter ratio greater than 3, you approach a condition aptly
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type are everywhere and would, contaminate any product containing a mineral.v ,
The EPA faced this prolgpt in 197& in writing emission standards for
the spray^fea^^besflDmi containing product* and decided to treat it by setttn;
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exactT&what mineral species and what fora of these ar^PH3rand specify whet pertfcledlmensions constitute an
asbestos "fiber". The. present deflnition-ifr the proposal could be applied t#?Wr foct that covers much of'the surface of the earth. In addition, an analytical procedure and the levels of Impurities11 that are acceptable,.as measured by this procedure, must be specified. Without the practical defini tions the ban is virtually universal and completely unworkable*
To conclude this discussion, I would like to stmmrtee the Union Carbide position and expand on the approach presented in nor lilter of July 14,
>577, which we believe is a reasonable alternative to the bw%reposed by
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1. The products under consideration have been Iri widespread use
for about 35 years and we know of no evidence that any consumer
has ever been harmed by them. Ho "unreasonablfrTfblt* to the
consumer has been demonstrated by the petitioners or by the staff.
2* Consumer exposure data have been presented which show that the exposures are both.'towrintf brief and-when averaged1 over a year are not distinguishable from the general background. The
suchr eeposure, if indeed,any risk does exist. Is
ly small and is basedron the? extrapolation of an
&ven and unproveabla theory-
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zero risk requirement.
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