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FILENAME: Flintkote (FLK)
DATE: 1969 Jan 28
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DOCUMENT DESCRIPTION: Meeting Minutes with Attendees - Quebec Asbestos Mining Association with Cover Letter from Mar 10
Q uebec A sbestos Mining A ssociation
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March 10, 1969,
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Mr, K.V, lindell Mr. V.W. Oughtred Mr. F.P. Smi th Mr. R.J. Merrill Mr J.A. Main Mr. M.j. Masse 1 Mr. R.5. Coleman
Mr. I. Sabourin Mr. Cao. Robinton
. Canadien Johne-Menville Co. Limited - Asbestos Corporation Limited Bell Asbestos Mines Limited - .Caray-Canadien Minee Limited - FlintLote Mines Limited LaWs Asbestos of Qusbsc Limited - National Asbestos Mines Limited
Counael - QAMA - Treaaurar - QAMA
MEETING or THE QUEBEC ASBESTOS MINING ASSOCIATION
Dear SIrt Please find attached / copy(lea) of minutes of
the 100 meeting of the Quebec As bee cos Wining Aeeociation, hold on Tuesday, January 2flth, 1969, .at the Mount Royal Hotel, Montreal, P.Q.
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RINUTES OF THE 108th RESTING OF THE QUEEEC ASBESTOS WINING ASSOCIATION
HELD ON TUESDAY, JANUARY 28th,1969, AT THE WONT ROYAL HOTEL, KONTREAL, P.3.
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, Hessrs. K. \j. lindell R.S. Coleman J. A. Wain R. J. Herrill H. J. Wessol W.U. Oughtred F.P. Smith
I.C. Campbell R. Dodds-Hebron ~ ' J.O. Eby W, H. Foster J. R. W. Hutcheson l. Piuze
0. Poirier P.H.Riordan Ceo. Robinson I. Sebourin Paul-A. Filteau
W.V. Oughtred, President of the Association was in the chair.
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Rinutes of the meeting of November 25th were approved as written.
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The committee Chairmen were then asked to report to the meeting.
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The committee met in Ottawa on January 14th and 15th last, !
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1. Filtration of aabeetoa-cement-eilica mixas - Hr. F, Nemmeth, of
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analyaia of the problam, together with recommendation*. On the
following day (January 15th), after a discussion of Kf, Kemmeth's
report, it waa agraid that an attempt should be made at developing
laboratory apparatus capable of producing a sheet which could be
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eeaured for water retention and green trngth. The ubconmitt plans to communicate with the Pulp tnd Paper Reiearch Inatituta to determine if a similar problem haa baan aolvafl for rood pulp,
2, Editorial Subcommittee - The representative from the JohneBsnvills Research Canter informed the Committee that statistical analysea carried out by the research center for G.A.M.A. would be charged according to the amount of work involved rather then at.e..,_.... fixed rete per study. Delivery of the french translation of the aummariaa of tasting pro cedure ie slated for January 15th, 1969. Ths translation rill be submitted to french language senior laboratory technicians at each company for thair comments, prior to publication.
3. Wet Classification - The statistical analyses of the Round Robin Data prepared by Professor White and the Johns-Wanville Research Center were studied by the subcommittee at their-'last'meeting.'^'^'--^' It was explained that comparison of the WcNett method and the T4N method was not fair, since technicians are thoroughly experienced with the WcMett apparatus but not for the most part with the T4N unit. It was moved that a cne year period be taken to acquire ex perience with the T4N method prior to repeating the Round Robin. Therefore, adoption of the T4N procedure at this time would be premature.
4," fibre Strength'Unit - It is felt that the iubeommittSB.should continue its sfforts at improving, this method with a view to ob taining a significant degree of reproducibility. A new subcommittee Chairman will have to be appointed to replace Hr, l. Wontpetit who haa racsntly resigned.
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5. Msgnatic Rating - Presently a Q.A.W.A, - A,T,I. Round Robin Taat ia baing conductad under tha auapicaa of ths A.T.I. Technical Committss. Air. Walter Smith of Bell Aebeatos Mines has complatad his test and observations at tha A.C.L. Laboratory and conductad hi* tour of the other participating laboratories tha araak of Janua ry 13th.
, 6. Color Teat - Correlation teats have bean delayed due to difficul. -.-.ty axperiancad with the Sherbrooke Laboratory Color apperatuei as a
result test date was not available for study at tha last seating of the subcommittee (November 27th). Pending receipt of correlation teat results, it was agraed that the write-up of the test method should be undertaken and that the procedure be submitted to Q.A.N.A, for proper sanction prior to final presentation to A.S.T.W.
7. Miscellaneous - At a special afternoon session on January 14th, two representatives of the Dominion Bureau of Statistics presented en"1ntroduction 'to statistics, which was followed by a lecture by a representative of the Atomic Energy Commission on the -application of statistics to the design-of experiments. Tha next day, January 15th, Mr. Siroia of the Mineral Processing Division presented a captivating lecture on the fundamentals of Zeta potential. Mr. Zcldnera of the Industrial Minerals Division reviewed certain observations on the testing of cament.
UNirORM CLASStriCATION AND CRAPING COMMITTEE .
This committee met on January 22nd and matters of interest to ths Directors of ths Associstion were rsviewsd by ths Chairmsn,
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1. Sherbrooke laboratory - Work ia being pushed on the Zai-as par-
i ticla size analyser and the "image-shearing" device. -The Committee la convinced that the project ia wall worth-while and ehould be puraued vigorously as practical.
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fibre Inspector - The fibre Inspector ia taking on the task of
calibrating the various companies' colour machines aa requested by
Companies to do so.
\ 2. Random Production Sampling for Q.S. Teat -- Some refinements to present procedures of random templing for Q.S.,,Teat.were approved. The use of rubber balls in the racks of the Q.S. machine will be in vestigated for use in the testing of floats.
3. fibres Containing Additives - It was agreed that the "Monthly
Shipping Test Report", aa produced by each Q.A.M.A. Member Company
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will, effective January 1969, show the sub-grade identification of
shipments containing additives. These will be identified by the
letter "S* for C.J.M., and the letter "f" for A.C.L.,. at the moment.
As reported previously these will not,"ret* the*momantv^be-'sampled by '
the fibre Inspector for either the yearly inter-mine testing, cr for
Random Production Sampling for Q.S.
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4. fibre Strength Unit - The Committee recommends (to the Technical that the new modified f.S.U. procedure should be adopted,
and that a good standard cement is desirable. It was pointed out that a standardized cement is available from C.J.M. with controlled avaluation,..-,.Such e.-aervict could eventually ..be-centralized at the Sherbrooke Laboratory.
5. New Test Methods, Asbestos Clsseificetions 4 Ottawa Research Considerable time wes spent reviewing this subject and at good sumstation for desirable future action obtained. The basic fibre data
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required end suggested methods to be investigated ere established.
These era to be checked, and then, presented to Ottawa for diecus-
aion. A further step way be to request acceleration of these inves
tigations which are felt', by this Committee, to be necessary and
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important if better classification methods are to be found soon, or
if mill automation is to be attainable.
industrial relations committee
following the last meeting, copies of the dust counting procedure used by our ventilation engineer were distributed to all companies. There is nothing confidential in this erite-up; it is not necessa rily the best method, it is merely a description of the procedure used by our engineer.
Two meetings''of the committee were held to review the demands of ..
the syndicates concerning e new labour contract. Demands are for
flat increases, but there is considerable variation in the amounts
asked.
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The resolution on the transfer of the (line Rescue Equipment to the
Department of Natural Resources is delayed pending a meeting of
Counsel with a local Thetford Mcnes Notary, who prepared the original
deed.
"Conseil du Patronat" - The Ceneral Manager attended as an observer
*v e meeting on Janusry 20th, at which time the structures of the "Con-
'.sell du Patronat du Qubec" were of ficially"extabliihed. o/The 'primary
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objectives of this Council are to insure a permanent liaison between
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manegemont Qroupa, a better coordination of their activities and
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interventions before public authorities, and to promoti the eccnomic
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ocial and professional interests of aanagamant. On of ita first tasks is to eat up prooar channels of communication and consulta tion between the Provincial Labour Department and the Council. It it hoped from no on no legislation ill be submitted by the Depart ment prior to consultation ith the Council.
Membership for a management Association is J200.00 per year. Asso ciation delegates must be persons actively engaged in the management of a business or company; they can be accompanied by a permanent officer of their Association as an adviser. On a motion duly seconded, it as resolved that the Q.A.M.A. apply for membership in the Council.
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The Chairman reoortad that there had been two meetings of the Com
mittee since the-last meeting of the Association, Further meetings
are scheduled for January 29th with U. Australian-New Zealand and
Continental Conferences. In addition, in view of the fact that it
seems unlikely that any effective arrangement can .be Bade ith the
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Continental Conference and because the tentative agreement with the
Arctic Lire is not acceptable to all members, meetings heve been
arranged with two non-conference carriers who are interested in
carring asbestos to the Continent this coming year.
The Chairman reported that the Canadian section of one Inter-American
conference had raissd its rates by 10J(, effective with the opening
of navigation.
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The labour situation on tha St.Lawrence river is still a caust for concern.and, combined with the procrastination of the Federal Covernmant in passing legislation governing the operation of hipping con ferences, has resulted in an overall deterioration of line service to Canadian porta.
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LEGISLATION AND TAXATION COWfT!rTTCe:
The Governments i n looking for now sources of revenue, which means increased taxation, commantad the Chairman. Presently under conaidaration by the faderal Government is a capital gains tax.
In order to supplement information on the mining industry, it is , proposed to distribute new forms so that each comoany may file statis tical date on taxes, contributions etc. payed during..thev.years- 1967- _ ... 68, with the Association's Audi tors,Riddell, Stead, Graham and Hutchi son.
As soon as representatives of all member companies are appointed to subject committee, a meeting will be called to study local taxation matters.
PUBLIC RELATIONS CQffiHITTEE
The proposal tabled at the last meeting was reviewed by the Chairman
of the Committee. Following comments from several doctors, it was
resolved to terminate contract with Ediiaa and negotiate a personal
contract with John Gossip. This may call for a notice of three (3)
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rep or tar., from ...the Canadian Prase is_.p reaantlyjpreparing ^ s arise cf articles on the asbestos industry in Quebec, The advisability of reviewing theee articles before publication was underscored. There was good latent posaibility present) counsel suggested having such opportunity.
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INSTITUTE Of OCCUPATIONAL AMD ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH COMMITTEE
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A Qreat number o f pertinent pspers, statements and clippings have
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btn circulated inca tha last meeting. Tha Chairman qusationad
tha proposal concerning tha allocation of reiearch expenditures,
whereby companies mould aharo tha expensaa on tha baaia of \% of
teles, according to figures praparad by Riddell, Staad, Craham 4
Hutchison. It was not clear whether this formula was meant to
establish the actual budget estimates or an additional fund. Dr.
Merrill indicated an additional fund was meant; so did Mr. lindall.
/ Raferanca was made by Mr. Lindall to a Montreal Club unofficial
meeting of some Q.A.M.A, members (Messrs. Oughtred, Lindell, Smith,
Merrill, Coleman, Sabourin attending, Messrs. Messel and Main having
been forcibly prevented from attending).
Dr. Wright thinks he may not be able to maintain the scientific committee together, if insufficient funds are available. The Chairman pointed"out that the members of the Scientific Committee ere being aollicited from various quarters and that their advice and prestige have been so far most valuable to the Institute end the Association. Their leaving the Scientific Committee would therefore be a great loss and this should not be allowed to happen. The In dustry has a serious problem and cannot leave the matter to others; it must fight its own battle, for instance, General Motors is holding a meeting on brake linings this very day (January 28th); results could be damaging to the Industry, should it be demonstrated that dust from the linings as an air pollutant affects human health.
ENVIRONMENTAL CONTROL CQMMITTCC
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Ths Chairman tabled a report in which ha rsviawad tha major projicts now in progress at tha Jeffrey Mine (C.J.M.), Aebestoa Corporation, and Lake Asbestos of Qusbec Limited.
The Chairman pointed out that the current British etenderd for dust and industrial environment, is two (2) fibres per c.c.; it it expected
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that the U.S. standard will ahortly be revised to twelve (12) fibres per c.c. or two (2) mppcf. Johns-flanville proposes to use a provisional standard of 6 fibres per c.c. measured by a membrane filter.
At the present time there ere no dust counts taken in town -Aabejtoa snd Thatford Black Lake Areas- as an environmental control measure,
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Laval Geology Garden Univeraity to member the financing of the ith each compeny.
- It seems that letters have been sent by Laval companies soliciting a contribution towards Laval Geology Garden. The matter was left
Treasurer - Financial unaudited statements for the year 1963 were circuleted to directors end associates.
AOJOURNFE NT
There being no further business the meeting wes formally adjourned.
1969 ANNUAL WfETING or THf
QUEBEC ASBESTOS WINING ASSOCIATION
The meeting was brought to order and the President called on the Chairman of the Nominating Committee.
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Election of Officers for 1969 The Chairman of the Nominating Committee reported that hie Committee had been unable to arrive at a decielon es to a elate of Cfficare and that therefore the Committee wished to tender its resignction.
The President then asked for nominations from the floor. As none were being made, it was then suggested that the Directors meet alona to. discuss the matter) A.C.l. and C.J.H. Directors elected to abstain.
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H.J, (tassel be appointed "pro tem" Chairman of the meeting of Directors.
CARRICD.
At this point the following nominations were proposed end seconded). President, K.V. Lindeli, Vice President, R.J. Kerrill, Treasurer, George Robinson^ Counsel, Ivan Sabourin, General Manager and Secre tary, Paul-A. Filteau.
It was also moved :that nominations'be-closed. All-in favour.
This slate of Officers was then unanimously carried with all seven Directors present.
Appointment of Auditors - Proposed and seconded that Riddell, Stead, Crahem and Hutchison be appointed Auditors of the Association for 1969.
DATE OF NEXT MEETING
The next meeting will be held on Kerch 25th, at a place to be decided
by the President.
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ADJOURNMENT
There being no further bueineis, the meeting was formelly adjourned.