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MINUTSS OP ARCOLOR "AD HOC" COMMITTEE First Meeting;
Date: September 5, 1969
Present;
M. W. Farrar P. B. Hodges, Secretary E. V. John
W. R. Richard E. P. Wheeler, Chairman
Objectives; (Agreed to by the Committee)
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Submit recommendations for action which will:
1. Permit continued sales and profits of Aroclors and
Terphenyls.
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2. Permit continued development of uses and sales.
3. Protect image,,of Organic Division and of the Cor poration.
Background Discussion of Problem:
1. Agreed that we should concentrate on Aroclor 1254 and
1260. Anoelor 1242 has not yet been incriminated for
these possible reasons:
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a. Nature of uses of 1242 minimizes environmental contamination.
b. .It may degrade biologically.
c. Unless analytical techniques are performed care fully, 1242 can be destroyed by oxidation during the analyses.
2.- PCB has been found in:
a. Fish, oysters, shrimp, birds.
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b. Along coastlines of industrialized areas such as
Great Britain, Sweden, Rhine Kiver, low countries,
lake Michigan, Pensacola Bay, in Western wild life
(eagles). It may be a global contaminant.
3. PCB has been tied to DUT in effects on disappeaiance of
wild birds which have fish diets. Ratio of PCD to ddt
has been about 40-50;1 generally. Dr. Relsboro reported almost 1:1 ratio. PCB may be contributing to or exag gerating the effects of other chlorinated aromatics.
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Sample acceptance from the numerous researchers was
discussed. This has been done on a limited basis.
Our corroboration of testing of their samples adds to our knowledge and demonstrates a willingness by Mon santo to help define the problem, but it is expensive and also tightens any possible legal cases against us-it rules out possibilities that Aroclors are not Involved.
5. Toxicity levels:
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Aroclors have been shown to be safe for man in rea
sonable exposure concentrations. We arc testing 100 ppm in diet of rats and dogs on a rule-of-thumb basis that 1/100 of toxicity level is safe and 1 ppm is probably the upper limit in total diet.
"Allowable levels" are probably lower than OCT. The worst example to date is the test at Pensacola where
5 ppb was found to be toxic to shrimp in 18 days exposure.
One problem we are facing is to keep the "safe level" (?)
- --.ror-ahrimp^Trom .being-applied Jfcfie.g. .Lake.Michigan
where more tolerant fish species probably exist. We
need to show the safe level in shrimp, clams, oysters
and several species of fish.
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Many toxicity studies on PCB are underway and It was agreed to be desirable to keep contact with all lab oratories which have requested Aroclor samples. One-
--haTf-to-two-thirda-of--the -amp-le-requests-have .come from state labs (who would let us know what they are doing) and about 1/3 have come from universities (who
- may give us the "brush-off"). Question of who should call on the laboratories was not resolved.
6. Escambia River Problem:
For a clearer understanding of the general problem, the situation at Pensacola was reviewed. From a rela" tively negligible discharge of 1-3 gal/day into a large river, 1/4 oile downstream levels of 42 ppb in water and 476 ppm in mud were found. Although use of Aroclor was halted immediately, we can expect the water contam
ination to continue for a lengthy period by leaching from the contaminated mud. No downstream samples have yet been taken to measure the decrease in contamination
(as of 9/5/69).
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7. Problem in Producing Plants:
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P. Hedges reviewed what was being done to stop gross
losses at Anniston and at WOK. Basically, the work
to date consists of stopping or trapping any sewering
of free Aroclor with return tc process or land fill
disposal of the trapped Aroclor. This will reduce
levels in plant effluents to below solubility ranges,
particularly as we move to install traps (or sumps)
back Into the waste source points where flows are small
and as yet undiluted by Aroclor-free waste streams.
The question of exactly how far to reduce (how much
money to spend) is not yet clear and expenditures to date
have bean comparatively small. It was agreed that, until
the problems of gross environmental contamination by our
customers have been alleviated, there is little object
in going to expensive extremes in limiting discharges
from the plants.
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One problem that has been interfering with logical development of our plant Aroclor waste reduction pro
grams has been delays In obtaining analytical results from in-plant and ex-plant sampling. It was agreed*
- -that-addltlona-1 -help -was-necessary- in-Dr"Tucker's lab but no specific actions were proposed. In addition to in-plant work, the plants are sampling the receiving streams.
Air pollution reduction has not been consldered-by the plants to date except as incidental prevention of pro duct contamination during tank car and drum loading - --operafront..--tony-range (1-~S year).. Improvements at
Anniston are planned to reduce product contamination
(and air emissions) In car loading operations. It was - agreed that a comprehensive air-sampling and testing
program would be very expensive and is probably not
Justified at this stage of the problem-
8. Environmental Contamination by Customers:
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. Our in-plant problems are very small va. problems of i : dealing with environmental contamination by customers.
; ! In one application alone (highway paints), one million
' i lba/yeer- are used. Through abrasion and leaching we
can assume that nearly all of this Aroclor winds up in
the environment.
Because the rste of natural (blo-degrsdatlon) is very low, other degradation must destroy PCD equal to the rate of environmental exposure In order to avoid build-up
of contamination.
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A general discussion was held on philosophy of controlling sales or working with customers to prevent pollution by PCB^
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Each member of the group will submit to the other members for consideration possible Ideas and programs to help accomplish the overall objectives aet by the Committee. Following review of the suggestions, the Committee will meet again at an early date to be arranged by the Chairman.
P. B. Hodges Secretary :Ju
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