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FRICTION MATERIALS STANDARDS INSTITUTE, faiC,, E. 210 ROUTE 4, PARAMUS, N.J.07652
MINUTES OF THE MEETING
of the
ASBESTOS STUDY COMMITTEE
Thursday, August 17, 1972, at 9:30 A.M.
at the
Institute Office, E. 210 Route 4, Paramos, N. J.
SlBiBBRS PRESENT
I. E. Weaver, Chairman J. C. Henning
V. Spurgeon
E. Wagner
E. H. Felerabend
Raybestos-Manhattan, Inc. Firestone Tire & Rubber Co.,
World Bestos Division Bendlx Corporation
Bendlx Research) Laboratories Carlisle Corporation
Molded Materials Division Abes Corporation
American Brakeblok Division
MEMBERS NOT PRESENT
W. B. Reltze
Johns-Manville Corporation
OTHERS PRESENT D. . Stone E. W. Drislane
Bendlx Corporation Friction Materials Division
Friction Materials Standards Institute
The meeting was called to order by Mr. Weaver, Chairman, at 9:30 A.K.
MINUTES OF REVIOPS MEETING
The Secretary read a summary of the Minutes of the Meeting held February 10, 1972. These minutes had been released and a motion for their acceptance had been obtained.
Upon motion duly made, seconded and unanimously passed. It was
RESOLVED: To accept the minutes of the February 10, 1972 meeting as distributed.
INTERPRETATION OF THE OSHA REGULATIONS
The Asbestos Information Association (AIA) met with representatives from 0SBA late In June. The purpose was to Interpret various Individual requirements In the OSHA regulations. Letters from the AIA to their member companies, dated July 5, 1972 and July 12, 1972, were distributed to the Coamlttee Members. In the first letter, they covered areas such as labeling, clothes lockers,__________
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respirators, aenltoring and physical examinations, citations, OSHA Inspections
and employee notification. In the second letter, the AIA diattojBuishes be
tween non-locked-in asbestos containing
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and clutch facings), there are certain labeling requirements tied in to the non-locked-in containing asbestos -products, but this letter also discussed >. . the probleu of subsequent vorklng of -locked^ln asbestos containing products.
The mesfeers discussed some of the items in the OSHA regulations. One member
Indicated that during an inspection, there were 3 OSHA people at their plant
for 7 to 8 days. Interestingly, the 3 OSHA people came on site the first day
wearing respirators. `Whether this vaa for effect or is,a 'standard procedure
for OSHA was not known. One of the items pointed out by.*an OSHA inspector
on the scene was the dry sweeping of loose asbestos-type compounds vs. the wet sweeping or vacuum gleaning that OSHA calls for. Another member advised
that they had taken out all air hoses around briquette presses and other
machinery where loose asbestos is handled before it becomes locked in.
Surprisingly to some members, asbestos sampling indicated that the inspection
and drilling locations were problem areas. One meaber required that the
respirators be worn at all drilling locations.
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In an inspection at one mesber's plant, the OSHA people set up 5 stations and while 4 of them sampled below the 5 fiber/per cc 7HA, one station read 18 fibers per cc TWA. This member was cited (in averaging the readings).
When the Federal Government was considering the necessity for asbestos regula tions, two of the companies represented by Members on the Committee were asked to cooperate in a survey by NIOSH. This study by HIOSB was to check over medical records and other such items to attempt to put the problem in prospective. NIOSH bad indicated to the cooperating manufacturers that the information they were providing would be kept confidential. Hwever, as it turns out, the OSHA people have copies of the NIOSH studies which would Indicate that the confidentiality has been violated.
A meaber questioned what happens when the asbestos concentration in a work area exceeds 10 fibers per cc (tbe ceiling concentration in the OSHA regulations). The answer is that the employer must notify the worker so exposed, in writing, that he was exposed to such a concentration and the worker must wear a respirator in that area. The next question concerned what the proper means for notification of the worker would be. If an interpretation is officially asked of OSHA, they will indicate that a registered letter to the employee is the proper mearm of notification. In other areas, OSHA has indicated that meeting the spirit of the law is what counts and It is felt that bulletin board notification would suffice.
disposable The next question concerned respirators. It was Indicated that there were 3 / respiratorfipprovcdy the Bureau of Mines, and these are .manufactured by the
A. 0. Smith Company, Welsh, and Minnesota Mining and Manufacturing (MMM). Respirators furnished employees must have a proper fit and the employees must be instructed both as to the fit and the servicing of the respirator. Responsibility for testing and approval of respirators for protection against asbestos dust re cently was transferred from Bureau of Mines to NIOSH. Until NIOSH approvals are issued, it Is recoanended only respirators (reusable or disposable type) having Bureau of Mines approval specifically for use on asbestos dust be used in asbestos contaminated atmospheres.
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LABELING PRACTICES
There are 3 areas for concern on labeling. One ~is the handling of the loose asbestos fiber from the point where it is received to the point where it Is mixed and briquetted. .The next is the handling .ofsthe-products with supposedly locked-in asbestos during subsequent operations,vsuch*as -drilling, grinding, inspection and boxing. The last concerns the handlings of the brake lining or clutch facing by the customer where he may also do-some drilling or grinding
before the lined assembly is arfinished product.
It vas reported during this topic that there was a higher concentration of asbestos in the air in the Inspection Department titan most members had realized. One member Indicated that when pallets of brake linings were shipped there apparently is additional dust created during transportation. The question of surface dust on the working surface of a brake lining or a clutch facing was discussed. Where members have token action to reduce rthe dusty type surface, they have found that they have actually altered the 'frictional characteristics of the material during the early miles on a vehicle.iln other words, the brakes are not very responsive during the early mileage after reline.
In the AIA recommendations, it is suggested that where a manufacturer is shipping his brake linings or clutch facings (locked-in-asbestos products) he should notify the user of his product to the effect, "Power bench saws.without collectors should not be used in cutting ths product. If this is impractical, operators should be provided with a Bureau;of Hines approved respirator." It was suggested that a notification be i put in boxes of brake linings or clutch facings being shipped to customers. A sample of the caution labels suggested is attached to these minutes. Mr. Feierabend indicated that this recommendation would not be accepted warmly by many manufacturers. Hr. Wagner objected to the recommendation that warning notices be put in the brake linings as he felt it was another "red flag" that would bring more harm to the Industry than the alleged good that would come from enclosing such notices. Several members have had customers call in to their Sales Departments asking If the handling of locked-in-asbestos in brake linings and clutch facings Is a hazardous condition. Another asked If this notifcation was a requirement of the OSHA regulations. It vas indicated that this vas not specifically required by the OSHA regulations. The concern is, do those customers doing additional grinding and drilling of the brake linings or clutch facings create working conditions where the con** centration of asbestos would be a hazard. Since small manufacturers are exempted from the OSHA regulations, they will probably not be running tests. Larger customers will, of course, be covered under the OSHA regulations and it Is
expected that tests will be run in these manufacturers1 work areas. Whether
the Institute would recommend such iaiHng in finished products shipped to the customers was not decided. It was felt that this subject should receive further consideration from the Members of the Committee before a recommendation is made. One member consented that there were instructions by some manufacturers advising that bloving out the wear debris from used brakes vas not recommended.
This subject of recommending that brake Hiring and clutch facing manufacturers include a warning sheet in their shipments appears to be somewhat controversial and it is suggested that this matter receive some serious discussion by the Members of the Committee with those responsible at their companies. This item will most definitely be on an agenda for the next meeting of the Asbestos Study Committee.
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SAMPLING FOR ASBESTOS FIBER COOKTIKG
Mr. Stone questioned the possible movement of asbestos inside the filter sample when sent to the lab for examination. Hr. Weaver indicated that this possibility mas quite remote, ^.Apparently the question serose after an OSBA visit to the member's plant, 4. In response to a question,' one mesber Indicated it takes about two months from*the OSBA sampling runti lxthe OSBA report is received. Further, it vas indicated that tbe company hears'if it is to be cited and not if the conditions are satisfactory.`Uhe OSBA regulations call for an eight hour time weighted average (TWA) for the measurement of air. borne concentration of asbestos fibers. One member indicated that he runs his sample test for a continuous four hours to compute the concentration. With a continuous four hour sampling, 'there are sometimes reactions from the shop people.
Returning to the question on sampling for fiber counting,'OSBA recommends a
full straight eight hour sample. It vas indicated they used 8 filters during
this continuous sample. A member suggested using 90 minute sampling for most areas, or a complete job cycle if it took longer than 90 minutes. Be recommended four hours of sampling for specials. A member questioned as to vhat minimum time vas necessary in sampling to determine the peak concentrations that cannot exceed 10 fibers per cc. No specific answer was given, but Mr. Weaver indicated some sampling procedures which he felt were optimum for counting fibers entrapped by the filter. The number of tests for various conditions is suggested in this tabulation. One condition is where you ere measuring friction materials with asbestos in the compund, and the other is for areas where you are handling all asbestos.
Optimized time for fiber collection - depending cm TWA fiber per cc concentration expected in area. (Optimum for counting fibers on the filter)
Friction Materials TWA Fibers per cc
Optimum Number of Tests
All Asbestos TWA Fibers per
0-5 5-10 10-15 15-20
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1-8 hr. test
2-4 hr. tests
3 tests, 3,3,2 hrs. 4-2 hr. tests
8-1 hr. tests
0- 3
3- 6 8- 9
9-13
13-20
The question arose concerning the sample, where one Is trying to pick up asbestos
for counting. What about the otne*xf&&rials in brake lining that are nof0117ere<*
hazardous? Might these not be counted on the filter as well as asbestos? One
answer that is indicated for the skilled laboratory man making the examination is that he should be able to distinguish between asbestos fibers and other
materials. Further, one can go to 800X on the microscope and get a closer look at the materials picked up on the filter. Or. Spurgeon indicated that one can use low temperature ashing to remove resins and other organic materials (primarily friction dust).
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EPA AUTOMOTIVE EMISSIONS
Ur. Spurgeon indicated that the Bendlx Research Laboratories are working
under contract for EPA on particulate emissions from brake linings and clutch
facings
will not be finished until March -1973. -Ur. Spurgeon felt it would
not be proper to discuss results -and -progress .to -date' on this study under
contract to the government.
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THE STATUS OP EPA REGULATIONS
Mr. Weaver indicated that one of the reasons for scheduling this meeting in
August was to go over the new EPA regulations. However, this agency has not
finalised their regulations as yet and it is not expected to be published until
sometime in September. Mr. Weaver indicated that the problem was not with the
asbestos sections, but rather with some of the other materials and he expected
that their regulations will not be very much different from the earlier
temporary regulations on asbestos. Once again, those earlier regulations were more concerned with control practices (collectors and .disposal techniques) -than
with numerical emission values.' No further .action can be
in this area
until the EPA regulations are published.
CONSIDERATION OF SUBSTITUTES TOR ASBESTOS
At the Annual Meeting, in June, this Conmlttee was directed to consider a
recommendation that the Institute sponsor s research study to determine the
possibilities of substitutes for asbestos. The purpose of this suggestion
was that if an outside study were to show that certain materials might very
well be acceptable substitutes for- asbestos, the information would be made
available to the members. If the outside study indicated that there were no
satisfactory substitutes for asbestos in friction materials, this information
could be used as a defense should we have a recurrence of action similar to
Illinois' banning of asbestos based brake linings. The Committee discussed this
and as most of them are'working on asbestos substitutes and some, in particular,
havemarketed materials without asbestos (primarily metallics), they felt this
suggestion would not be warmly received by many members. One member indicated
that It would be very difficult for them to sanction the Institute
any
such study considering the work they have done in the past.
Upon motion duly made, seconded, and unanimously passed, it was
RESOLVED: That the Asbestos Study Committee does not recoamend an Institute study in the area of substitutes for asbestos.
WASTE DISPOSAL
Someplace between the point where the asbestos product is finished and the waste materials are disposed of, the OSHA requirements will become EPA require ments. In other words, we are moving from the condition of standards in the work place to standards in the atmosphere or environment. The area of waste disposal is a major problem. All asbestos hearing wastes, according to the OSHA regulations, must be collected and disposed of in sealed impermeable bags or other closed Impermeable containers. Whether a closed steel truck body is considered "impermeable" is a question. If the OSHA people mean what they say
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vhen they suggest that en employer vho is attempting to meet the spirit of the
law will not have difficulty, it will be assumed that removal of the waste
material in enclosed steel track bodies would be .an acceptable means of
disposal. Most members indicated that they had great - difficulty with polyethelene
bags - they are too soft and they tear when theyxare*stacked.>LThe next area,
which is a major problem,-is `the .actual disposal*oftthe dust.^Bsually,~it _is
unloaded as land fill. ^One member uses a screw-typeiconveyor'to fill a truck
with a fixed container, c The material is then dumpedilnto land .fill* - The
material is wet down after dumping and, after a'holedLs .filled, it is covered up.
Mr. Stone
a procedure he had seen where'they'turn the dust into
pellets and dispose of the pellets. One member Indicated a solution for the
disposal of the paper bags that are used to package the asbestos. They unload
the asbestos bag inside a hood where they cut the bag..-The hood has an empty
plastic bag which the asbestos bags are picked up in.
The topic of -proper disposal of the friction materlalrvaste products was
discussed. The most desirable method of disposing of friction material waste
products is to put It back into the friction material. * Where a manufacturer
has s one-foxmula product line, this is reasonable. * However, moat of the .larger
manufacturers would find It very difficult to segregate the various mixes picked
up in their collection devices and recycle It back into the friction material
without running into product problems. This la obviously the most desirable
thing to do with the waste material, but for turning out a quality product it
becomes very difficult. The most comnon
of disposal are to wet the
product down and dispose of it as land fill. In some areas the material is
bagged and sent to the dump. The problem of economical
to dispose of the
waste from friction materials has been a problem In the Industry for many years.
It is likely to become a much more perplexing problem considering the regulations
by OSHA and EPA. Hr. Spurgeon brought up the question of the possibilities of
the Institute sponsoring paid research on waste disposal. It was indicated that
within the Constitution and By-Laws of the Institute we could very well sponsor
such research but it would be up to the Conmittee to make recommendations in
this area. Generally, there are areas other than asbestos that are Involved in
this waste disposal problem. Among the items to be considered are: grinding
dust, asbestos fibers and bags, phenolic? which are pcked up in vet scrubbers,
lead and its compounds, and the solvents that are driven off during processing.
The Committee will consider this possibility at a subsequent meeting.
A member suggested a possible questionnaire to be sent out to the Membership concerning the problems of waste disposal to see whether the rest of the Membership could contribute some Information in this area and to determine the extent of interest in the study of waste disposal by the Institute. The Members of the Committee should consider items to be included in such a questionnaire for discussion at the next inerting of the Committee.
MATERIALS OTHER THAN ASBESTOS
Because the problem of waste disposal is not a problem of asbestos only, questions were raised about the possibilities of extending the scope of the Conmittee *s work beyond that of asbestos alone. The Secretary Indicated that it would be within the scope of the Committee to extend their activity to materials other than asbestos. Lead and lead compounds are among the hazardous materials being regulated by Federal agencies. As many manufacturers use lead and lead compounds
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In their friction materials, this might be a material to be studied by the Committee. On the other hand, because of the seriousness of the asbestos regulations, by.taking on other materials, the efforts of this Co&mlttee right be diluted. Currently, there are regulations on solvents, silica, and other materials considered haxardous or noxious by the regulatory agencies. It is requested that the members consider^the possibilities,of^expanding the activities of th*. Committee ^to cover* other^materials -
g* METHODS FOR 1EIAMIMATI0H OF FIBERS -T
Dr. Spurgeon questioned whether there were any other reliable techniques for the measurement of asbestos fibers other than the membrane filter method. The question was also aimed at whether the .regulatory agencies were considering other analytical methods. Mr. Heaver indicated that in conversation with AIA he had recently learned that the Department of Labor is considering a study on the possibilities of the gravimetric method, for sampling asbestos fibers. He indicated that the menbrane filter med?S> would be in use for some years to
come end possibly up to the July 1976 date when the stiffertvo fiber per cc requirement goes into effect. '- The Department of Labor Is considering a 15 man committee to study this possibility for-sampling the asbestos. --The make-up of such a conmdLttee would be as follows: ^A-from industry, A "experts,** 1 from HI OSH, 1 academic, .2 from labor, 1 medical, .1 from-the American Industrial Health Association, and 1 consumer advocate. It is suggested that members of the Asbestos Study Committee consider whether their companies might wish to volunteer for service on such a Federal comzdttee.
OTHER BUSINESS
Some of the Committee Members are operations oriented and others ere environment oriented. It was requested that those individuals responsible for corporate decisions in the hygiene environment area be listed. That list is as follows:
Charles, Borcherding
Abex Corporation - Chicago, Illinois (Corporate Industrial Hygiene)
James Armstrong
Bendlx Corporation - Southfield, Michigan (Safety Director)
Ike Heaver
Raybestos-Manhattan, Inc. - Manheim, Fa. (Director of Environmental Control)
George Wilson
Firestone Tire A Rubber Co. - Akron, Ohio
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There being no further business brought before the Comlttee, upon motion duly made, seconded and unanimously passed, it was
RESOLVED: To adjourn
Adjourned at 4:00 F.M.
Distribution: Committee Members J. Greenen L. Stickles British Council AXA/HA
E. H. Drlslane Executive Director
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