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The RDDDRCTD Co York, N. Y. February 5, 1964 / Diet. February 4 TD: Messrs. D-Stcli - Davis - Dent - Dermody - Frohman - Hell - Limerick - MilstciaG:Leary - Van Akin MINUTES 1\T.J PRODUCTS STEERING COMMITTEE EUILDINO INDUSTRIAL PRODUCTS DIVISION MEETING - FZ3RUARY 3, 1964 Subject committee met et the Hew York Office on February 3, 1964. In attendance verc: Berbers Guests F. M. Oveeney, Chairman D. A. Davis T. A. Dent J. G. Hall C. T. Limerick VI. J. Van Akin W. G. Neel PRODUCT DISCUSSION (A) - INDUSTRIAL PRODUCTS DIVISION 1. Calsilice DuPont's accelerated tests for chloride cracking of stainless steel pipe in sulated v.-ith calcium silicate (Calsilite), Y/ith inhibitor added, indicated a breakdcY.-n of all calcium silicate products, including Johns-Kanville's Thamobestos and Ower.s-Corning's Kaylo. The accelerated tests are considered to have been overly severe. Our Research people and W. G. Neel and/or R. W. Henry will/'tic'presenc at DuPont's laboratory next week to discuss further test procedure. It was decided that we would proceed no further with the development of the equipment or manually adding any inhibitor until after the DuPont meeting. 2. Ntoorer.a Saturated Asbestos Felt Msmington Mills have run tvo rolls of our Neoprene Saturated Asbestos Felt ar.d satisfactory performance was indicated. The person who made the test runs died and the ns/ Superintendent prefers to run the remaining roll be fore he -./ill make any comment. Research is following for the report on the --M- c-.j nO-r^anic Fel Csr.sidering the limitations of our Gloucester Plant, there is serious question on Y.-hecher we can produce a Resin Saturated Organic Felt without a substantial outlay for additional equipment. W. J. Van Akin is of the opinion that our GAF 14061 ?aga 2- system of adding the re2in, by saturating with an aqueous resin solution after thu felt is partially dried, is probably inherently too enpensive to ever be competitive with the patented cystem of adding the resin at the beaters. It is felt, however, that in consideration of the very t.:;or investment we have in felt r.iils, we should continue research cn possible products our s.ills could produce. '.'o accelerate the progress of this research and development worh ca felt, it is roscretenscd that we aid a fulltir.e technician at bound brook, to coordinate the work at the laboratory wroth that done at the Gloucester ?lar.t by Mr. flood. Process Engineer, who does not have sufficient cine for research and development work. D. A. Davis will submit a reecttsendatisa for the hiring of such a technician. The Organic felt Program will also require an additional ISA of $5,000. Via primary objectives of this program are: (a) - Vo determine the commercial feasibility of developing a basin Saturated Pelt ia competition with Cor.goleum's product. (b) - Vo determine the characteristics available as a result of treating dry felt tnith various additives. The end uses of such felts should not be considered as confined to roofing and flooring usage. (a) - To develop improvements ia roofing felt from a cost or quality standpoint. i. Milltsard The only project ia the hands of Research : Development at the present time is t'ca adaptation of Millboard for moulded bralce linings. Cur product is in the hands of Thermoid. 3. W. Henry is the sales contact and is foliowring Thermoid for a report cn the acceptability or the samples we submitted. R. W. Henry should find out from our Automotive Dept, the names of other manufacturers of bralce linings. 5. link Veit Co. 3io Plates This is a development by the Link Balt Co. for community sewerage disosal units. A-C sheets are used as panels in the effluence tanks to ffer surface for bacterial growth which is an important factor in the sewerage disposal process. H. B. Hutten's department has made the initial contact with this account and it is felt that H. R. ICuhllcen ar.d D. A. Davis (or somebody assigned by Mr. Davis) should visit the Link Belt plant at Kolmar, Pa. at a very early date to inspect the process and develop a recommendation on what we can offer in the way of asbestos-cement sheets. Utility Corrugated presents a good possi bility because more surface is presented. 6. found Deadening Membrane Veseareh is still awaiting report from tha Detroit testing laboratory that is ievaieping primary data upon which we can base further develop ment. van Akin, mentioned that the firs resistant characteristics of anything davtlcptd would be vary important because of its probable application cn firtproof structures. D. A. Davis will confer with Gorier. Katell on the progress being made with door manufacturers and prefabricators on the use of a high density Sound Deadening Membrane. P. o :e >. 7. aad that wa wtuid not make any attempt to fabricate a dispoary pot t; recommended in J. H. Church's 1 at ter of January rould, however, send Hr, Church temples of our various Serin ~2 Saturated Felts as well as aceptable Saturated Felt. D.A. supply Mr. Bottoll with the samples to be submitted so that L can answer Mr. Church's letter. f'CTS DIVI5ICJ1 2 1. Fire-Rated Gyosum Board It ut; concluded that we should initiate the manufacture of Fire-Rated Gy?au:.) Board, attempting to obtain a license from U.S.G., national Gypsum or Destwall Certain-ceed, whichever process would be best adapted to our ora and equipment, If it is found that we can produce under a license arrangement without being subject to the $15,000 Underwriters' testing requirement, that would be the course we would follow. R. Hedges and D. A. Davis, through contact with Underwriters' Laboratories representatives and our competitors holding patents on Fire-Sated Board, will determine what approach we will take. tie will continue to try to develop a board of our own composition which will r.ot fail within the patent claims of others and which we feel reasonably sure will qualify for the Underwriters' label. If this is accomplished ar.d the volume iiLS_tifi as it. a recommendation will be cade at that time for Underwriters' testing. 2. Lew-Density Asbestos-Cement Ciaoboai-d J. G. Hall indicated that the national Gypsum Co. is throwing its whole promotion on asbestos-cement to VJoodrock, their new low density Clap board. The conclusions of the A.C.p.A. field survey would indicate that this product overcomes cost of the objections against A-C products and emphasises the desirable characteristics. The board is 2/8" thick, 12" wide and 12' long. It is factory primed but not finished. The product has been released on a marketing and research basis in Memphis, Tern., ar.d Mr. A. H. Fay of Rational Gypsum has indicated that the acceptance has been remarkably good. He are sending G. J. Garthwaite 'to Memphis to locate.jobs and get as much preliminary information as he can about the handleability, application, appearance, etc., of the pro duct. D. A. Davis will cake a test run of our low density version of A-C Clapbeard within the r.s>:t two weeks. J. G. Hall will determine from Mr. Fay if their Hoocrock has any patented features and gee the reference as well as a bundle of the product for our Research Laboratory. a non-brittle lew density A-C Clapboard has 1 F.esearch GAF 14063 O * r ^ A 3. T--J t Shin-.lc -- run ij c;.is product his passed the screening sect. Cr.a isro mi :xi will be mode today and thin the release will be submitted to lr.i_-- --iters' Leboratorias for tasting. Id is anticipated chat we will hivi Underwriters' Luboraseries' clearance on the shingle by the cr.d of February and we should 02 able to have Joliet in production by June or July. If it is determined to proceed with sound Brook simultaneously, this plsr.t could ilso hive s Cliss "A" Sbinglo ivlilible it obout tbs 4. y-207 Tyva Asbestos Hoof Shingle In response to continued requests from our Mobile District for in Ameri can Method type shingle, J. G. Hell requested that further consideration bo given Eo the production of this type of shingle sc Mobile to tike core of the Ho;; Orleans market. Inherent limitations of our Hotsche!; process in prcduiing such a shingle were explained. It was agreed that Research should not abandon an attempt to develop a competitive shingle of this typo but it is considered in fifth or sixth place in priority. This matter is being brought to the attention of H. R. ICuhlken. 5. Rigid Vinyl Siding D. A. Davis has been in couch with Goodrich, producer of Geon, the best presently known ?V Resin for exterior use, and received some recommenda tions for further contacts on the working of this resin. The primary users are Sieberling Rubber Co. of Ohio who calender the U.S.G. sheet, and IJavaco Co. of Dallas v;ho are the foremost extruders of this plastic. A small extruder, Petro Plastics of Garwood, N. J., was also contacted and it was found that wa could use their equipment on an experimental basis on an annual fee basis that would not be prohibitive. X. A. Dent suggested that we contact Chardon Rubber Co., Charcon, Ohio, who are primary extruders and who are making the base for our Floor Tile Division. T. A. Dane also suggested that D. A. Davis talk to Bird & Son to deter mine the possibility of using their extrusion equipment to produce ex perimental vinyl siding of our own design. Cur present attitude toward solid vinyl siding, or in fact any solid vinyl products, is a program to gain experience with the product, whether wo use someone else's extrusion or calendering equipment or our own. We should carry on a parallel laboratory program to learn as much as possible about the handling and characteristics of vinyls. Research & Development vd.ll need a man to follow through on this solid vinyl program with a background of chemistry. D.A.Davis will submit a recommendation for tha hiring of such a man. 5. Simulated Cedar Shir.ole engineering is building a hopper to try to get the desired color effect as reccruaaudad by Tabor Birrer.. J. G. Hall suggested the elimination of the t/ice slots in this shingle, substituting slits. It was agreed that this shingle should be made in a self-staling shingle only. ?. IC. SMUTTY Chairman GAF 14064