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To: Deborah Swackhamer[dswack@umn.edu]; Minoli, Kevin[Minoii.Kevin@epa.gov] Cc: Bolen, Brittany[bolen.brittany@epa.gov];Dravis,Samantha[dravis.samantha@epa.gov]; Kaviock, Robert[Kaviock.Robert@epa.gov]; Lyons, Troy[lyons.troy@epa.gov]; Packard, EiisefPackard. Eiise@epa.gov] From: Jackson, Ryan Sent: Mon 5/22/2017 8:23:16 PM Subject: RE: Congressional testimony BOSC one-paqer.docx Deb, I would appreciate the call. The attached are talking points which we have used internally to advise what we are simply doing to review applicants. The unfortunate fact of the matter is that is appears that given the other witnesses, the Democratic invitation was principally meant to elicit testimony from you concerning the stories running in the newspapers. When might be convenient for you? I'm happy to call you. Ryan. From: Deborah Swackhamer [mailto:dswack@umn.edu] Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 3:28 PM To: Jackson, Ryan <jackson.ryan@epa.gov>; Minoli, Kevin <Minoli.Kevin@epa.gov> Cc: Bolen, Brittany <bolen.brittany@epa.gov>; Dravis, Samantha <dravis.samantha@epa.gov>; Kaviock, Robert <Kavlock.Robert@epa.gov>; Lyons, Troy <lyons.troy@epa.gov>; Packard, Elise <Packard.Elise@epa.gov> Subject: Re: Congressional testimony Mr. Minoli and Mr. Jackson, I would be pleased to connect with you if you feel it is necessary, but my testimony is submitted (and embargoed). I assure you my main message is mine alone; and is that strong science is needed to ensure public health, whether done by states or by EPA. I am not niaive to think there will not be questions about BOSC; I will answer them with facts and only speak to information that is publically available. 17cv1906 Sierra Club v. EPA - 6/22 Production ED 001523 00004990-00001 Please let me know if you would like to connect by phone. Thanks very much. Deb Swackhamer On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 3:12 PM Minoli, Kevin <Min.oli.Kevin.@epa.gov> wrote: Hello-1 had not noticed your email before I sent mine. Looks like you got a lot of helpful advice leading up to today. If a quick call is still possible even just to introduce ourselves in case there is follow-up, let me know and we can set a time that works for you. Thanks, Kevin Kevin S. Minoli Acting General Counsel Office of General Counsel US Environmental Protection Agency Main Office Line: 202-564-8040 On May 22, 2017, at 3:02 PM, Deborah Swackhamer <dswack@,umn.edu> wrote: Mr. Jackson, I apologize if there has been any confusion about my role in tomorrow's House Science Subcommittee on Environment hearing. I am testifying as an environmental science and policy expert, and retired professor, and have explicitly stated in my testimony that I am not representing EPA. In spite of the media interest and attention to the BOSC membership non-renewals, I have been asked to speak about the role of science in environmental decision making. I was not asked to speak as BOSC chair. To ensure I cross no lines as an SGE, I checked with the BOSC DFO (Tom Tracy) and was referred to Kacee Deener, In the Office of Science Policy. She has provided me with 17cv1906 Sierra Club v. EPA - 6/22 Production ED 001523 00004990-00002 excellent guidance, which I have and will continue to follow. I am happy to share those email exchanges with you. I hope this clears things up as to my role. Please let me know if you have any further questions. I can be reached at 612-309-0637. Deb Swackhamer On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 12:45 PM Kavlock, Robert <Kavlock.Robert@,epa.gov> wrote: Ryan Deb Swackhammer did reach out to us on May 15th asking how she could respond to a request to appear before the Science Committee on the 23rd. We replied to her: Since you would be speaking in your personal capacity, you cannot speak on behalf of EPA nor can you share any nonpublic information. Additionally, if you mention your role on the BOSC you should also include other relevant details from your resume that highlight your achievements as a scientist. We did not hear back from after she replied that she would abide by the rules. I am cc'ing her on this email so that you can reach out to her directly. I don't have a phone number for her, but will send you as soon as I can locate one. 17cv1906 Sierra Club v. EPA - 6/22 Production ED 001523 00004990-00003