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INDUSTRIAL & POWER CAPACITOR DEPARTMENT Hudson Falls, N.Y. December 22, 1969
cc: LP Hart, Jr. A Pezgfsky DJ Meyers JJ Llchlello
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PE Fuerst
JF Repko - Syracuse
MEMORANDUM: Meeting - Monsanto Company
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JS Kelson - Schenectady
Paul Benignus and Howard Bergen
December 17, 1969
with LP Hart, Jr., PE Fuerst, ME Scoville, and JJ Lichiello, part time
Object - to discuss:
' 1. Pyranol -II agreement status
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2. Capacitor film making at British Cellophane
3. Polychlorinated Biphenyl (PCS) contamination.
The Pyranol IZ agreement status is summarized by Mr. Lichiello as follows:
"We reviewed the proposed Pyranol II agreement with Monsanto, with Messrs. Bergen and Benignus. We.explained that there were a number of unanswered question: concerning a sublicense agreement between CFTH, France and Prodelee, France under which it is believed that our P-II patents are licensed. This explains Prodtlec *s activities in selling P-II throughout the world. Upon clalrlflcaclon of this agreement, we will be in a better position to make an equivalent offer to Monsanto.
We further indicated that an equivalent royalty rate to that of Prodelec may make a patent only agreement unremuneratlve. In that event, we proposed a form of continuing P-II "handling" kind of know-how agreement, together with patent licenses, on an annual stipend Basis.
In the interim period, we assured Monsanto that our royalty basis would
be appropriately reasonable and responsibe so that their major concern in
sales should not be adversely Influenced by a potential royalty rate yet to
be decided.
It seems that P-II licensing has deteriorated to the point of utilization of P-II as an Inducement to further purchases of chlorinated diphenyls generally. Consequently, it does not seem that P-II licensing will be a source of significant income."
Capacitor film making at British Cellophane discussion included:
. Visit Co British Cellophane by L.P. Hart, Jr. on September 25, 1969, during which factory facilities were not seen to evaluate Cellophane's capabilities as a film producer and impression was indicated that an even trade off in technology might be a basis of negotiation. This approach and attitude did not appear promising to a future satisfactory agreement with Mr. Hart. Mr. Bergen expressed hope that British Cellophane would change their attitude and that a future meeting tentatively possible early in 1970 could result in better understanding.
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Further progress toward agreement confirmation appears to await
such a meeting. Mr. Bergen expressed opinion that he would act
in changing the British Cellophane attitude to be more receptive
to an exchange of compl- T.derstanding relative to business values
to British Cellophane ar.
ral Electric.
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Discussion of British Cellcpnnne relation to Monsanto^ revealed that the worldwide market distribution system Monsanto has in place is proposed to contribute to that phase of the capacitor film business cycle, 'somehow dealing in General Electric technology on application requirements to compete with Prodelec and La Cellophane, France. Monsanto may have to establish a capacitor film application service laboratory operation to fully compete with the La Cellophane-Prodelec combine. `
Polychlorinated biphenyls contamination or PC3 biological relationships
have been the subject of several published reports in the U.S. and Europe
(refer to memorandum of October 27, 1969 on meeting with J.S. Nelson for G.E.
internal action). Mr. Benignus reports continuing buildup of press releases
and research activity going on in several universities. So far, he reports,
?C3 has not been related to deleterious effects on biology as has DDT, both
of which happen to be in the same Infrared spectrographlc wave length or
frequency range and overlap in analytic records. The PC3 radical found in
birds and fish from widely separated selected areas has been duplicated in
synthetic analysis of pentaehlor diphenyl and higher^!eve1 chlorinations, but
has not been found in trichlor diphenyl 1248 or 124?*andlower level chlorinations
which are used primarily in capacitors. Transformers made by G.E. use 75%
#1254 Axoclor or #1476 Pyranol, pentaehlor diphenyl shown by synthetic tests to
have the PCS radical. Why tests for trichlor do not show up in the same way
is not yet explained scientifically. Ed Saab in Pittsfield has scheduled a program of tests and meetings bearing on this subject for the transformer
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departments. Generally, since transformers are sealed tanks, the only oossi- 1
bility for contamination of water appears at manufacturing plants or in disposal
or waste from transformer drainage in service. It is possible consideration may
be given to elimination.of Aroclors 1254 and 1260. However, since Aroclor 1242
used in capacitors is reported to Include up to 6% of pentaehlor material because 4
the chlorination process always results in some distribution of chlorination
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levels, a concern by industry using Aroclors is that adverse and inaccurate
publicity may result in inappropriate action to restrict usage. The present
conelusion is to avoid any possible disposition of waste or scrap Pyranol which
could contaminate water systems. We should have record of I&PC Department
instructions in writing confirming practice which has been in use for some time
since first learning of contamination possibilities.
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