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i otcl IN ATTENDANCE: I unites GENERAL i EETC.NG Asbestos Textile Institute June 4, 1965 Lc Trovence, Thetford l ines, Canada ALERICAN ASBESTOS TEXTILE CORT. J.W. Weber J.L. Rainey G.S. Fabel J .V/. Christenbury Nm. i*. aaskant D. F. Ouealy ASBESTOS CORPORATION LTD G.F. Jenkins I. E. LcClerc (A.C.3. Ltd.) E. L. Alexander 'A.O.S. Ltd.) W.W. Ought red M.P.Carson A.L. Penhalc G.F.A. Brink I'.C. PJiaro BELL ASBESTOS HUES LTD. G.W. Smith F. P. Smith Wm.JSmith R. DocV's-ilebron Norman L. Barr CASSIAR ASBESTOS CORF. J. D. Christian N. Gritzuk T.T. Tigcrt R. Larson (Ontario Research Foundation) il.iv. PORTER COiTANY, INC. J.T. Griffis J.1). LcClucr D.E. Childers RAYBESToS-i ANitATTAW, J.A. Brown, Jr* L.O. VJil li ams J.P. Nronski L.VJ. Oliver R. B* Smith J .W. Hawkins INC. TALLiAN-iC CLUSI3Y FABRICS CO. Ted D. ; cCluskey TURNER Ci I JEWALL LTD. Bernard Lincoln U.S. RU ;BER CO. TANY A. C. Link D.T. Austin, Jr. S. J. Peole, Jr. B. D. Hubbard J.ii. Wolfsie (Dr.) BRITISH HELT'iJG & ASBESTOS LTD, J.L. i itchell C/V MALA')ER,1; OB.,RS;iAi k TAFT T. Jay Flocken (Legal Counsel ) J01 INS-1 YU IVILLE OORT. W.S. Hough E.A. Sclm.;ian W.C. Atkinson C.L. Sheckler Dr. K.W. Smith ASBESTOS TERT-LE INSTITUTE ii.E. Sunbury (Exec. Secretary) SOCvETE AUCwYLE FRAkCAISE DU FERODO ionsacur CoDineau " Decaestecker lake asbestos of duebec ltd f . J . I'esse l E.A. Farrell K.W. Nelson U.S. PUBLIC iPIALTiI SERVICE Dr. L.J. Cralley JOHNS-DANVILLE CO. OF CAi.AUA LTD., i;.W. iiendry ** GUESTS ** Karl V. Lindell, Chairman, Canadian Johns-Lanville Co., Ltd. J.O.Eby,Vice rres.fi Genl.i gr., Jeffrey line, Can. Johns-i-anvL lie Co.Ltd. R. Gagnon, Lake Asbestos of Juebec, Ltd. L. riuze, Line Lgr., Laic e Asbestos of Quebec, Ltd. I .J. I'essel, President, Lake Asbestos of Rucbec, Ltd. A.L. Penhale, Chairman ft President, Asbestos Corporation Ltd. G.F. Jenkins, Director, Asbestos Corporation lid. I inntcs - General Meeting - cnut nuccl: Guests : 2 L. iontpetit, rana^cr, Uicolct Asbestos lines Ltd. Ivan Sabourin, Q.C., Political C.B. Brown, Bell Asbestos Pinos Ltd. J.A.D. larcottc, Director, Asbestos Corner ation Ltd. Dr. R.J. Perrill, Pgr., Carey-Canadian Pines Ltd. F.P. Hodgson, Panager, Flintkote tines Ltd. f. Lachance, B.A.. .A. Dust Engineer, Thetford Industrial Clinic R.S. Coleman, Manager, Wational Asbestos i incs Ltd. Dr. L.J. Cralley, U.S. Public Health, Service, Cincinnati, Ohio Dr.Jv.lv. Smith,! edical Director, Johns-Panvi lie Corp., Pew York, K.Y. Dr J .11J Jol f sie , 1 ed ica 1 Director, United States Rubber Co.,Hew YorktI!Y Pr.H.L.Barr,Director,Bell Asbestos Pines Ltd.,Sales igr.,Atlas Asb.Co Dr. R. Parson, Director, Ontario Research Foundation P. Gritzuk, Asst, tn the Cent, Pgr., Cassiar Asbestos Corn., Ltd. Dr. Paul Cartier, Thetford Industrial Clinic, Thetford iincs Geo. S. Fabel, American Asbestos Tortile Corn. A. Collincau, Societe Anonyme Francaise Pu Teredo I . Uecaestecker, M " M " 211 * * * * * * * * In addition to the above guests wc were Privileged to iiave thirty ladies accompany their husbands to our luncheon on Friday, June 4Hi * -----Minutes of tlie Pccting------- _ 1. The meeting was called to order by President J.A. Brown, Jr., who expressed our appreciation for the opportunity of holding Hi is meeting in Thetford fines, and. thanked our hosts, Asbestos Corpora tion, Ltd.; Bell Asbestos iincs Limited; Canadian Johns-;anvilie Co., Ltd.; Cassiar Asbestos Corporation limited; aid Lake Asbestos of Que bec Limited, for their v/onderful hospitality and meticulous handling of the many details incidental to the meeting. The miners' committee who handled the local arrangements consisted of P.T. Carson, Asbestos Corp. ; P.'7. Hendry of Can. Johns-Panvil! e Co.; Roland Gagnon, Lake Asbestos of Quebec; VJm.T.'V. Smith of Bell Asbestos lines representing Cassiar Asbestos Cor p; and F.Parkef Smith, Bell Asbestos .incs, who was Chairman of the committee. To all of these gentlemen v/e extend individual thanks for a job that v/ns exceedingly well done! Tiesident Brown then .introduced a number of the special guests who v'orc attending this meeting, following which lie explained that due to the fact that some of the ren had to leave before noontime in or der to catch a i ibafternoon flight out of > ontreal, the usual agenda had. been reverse:! to enable then to hear our several guest speakers. 2. Our first sneaker was I r. I.J. Mcssei, Prcsi1 ent of bake Asbestos of 'ucbec, Limited, who welcomed the members of A.T.I. witn these re marks: "President Crown, Penbers of A.7.1., Guests: It is a pleas ure, on behalf of tiie Canadian Asbestos jiners, to welcome you to ---- asbestos country with its man-''ado mountains and to tell you how pleased and honoured we are to Iiave you hold your meeting m Thetford iines While I have not been very active in A.Y.? . 1 have followed, its work very closely through the reading of the f:ne and comprehensive re ports which your Secretary so ably puts together. I have also fol lowed closely the cooperative work which your technical committees have been doing with the Quebec Asbestos . inmg Association, which Minutes - General Meeting - continued: - 3 - is much aprreciated and mutually beneficial. 1 know the work of an association such as yours is a difficult one due to wide range and complexity of problems that have to be dealt with and wish to con gratulate ycur association in the splendid and effective way that it conducts its affairs and copes with your industry problems. As yet there is no shortage of Group 3 spinning fibres from the mines in Canada, as 1 can still sec plenty of order-takers around. How ever, there arc indications of possible shortages in some of the as bestos cement grades. At one time the spinning fibre grades were the mainstay of tlie asbestos producing industry, but this has now been supplanted by tlie asbestos cement fibie grades together with expanded uses of the shorter fibres. during 1^64, tlie Canadian Asbestos producing industry employed over 6000 people and exported approximately 1,333,000 tons of asbestos with an approximate gross value of $133,000,000. Of this total only 34,6^7 tons were crude and spinning grades with an approximate total value of $14,000,000. The IAS.A. market consumed approximately 14,600 tons of crudes and spinning fibres with a value of approxi mately $6,400,000, and this has rer*ainod rather constant for the past 3 or 4 years. The only other large suppliers of spinning fibres are Russia and Rhodesia. The figures we obtained during our visit to Russia would indicate approximately 20 to 23 thousand tons of spin ning fibres out of an estimated total production of 1,600,000 tons; so Canada still holds its dominant position as supplier of textile fibres.- _ The cooperative work that is being carried on for improved fibre testing methods and standards should lead to a better understand, ing between the producing and consuming asbestos industriese I'm Sabourinr as attorney for AA.i-.A.. will tell you somethin: of the work that is being considered with respect to the health of the workers in our industry. I feel there should be room for cooperative work betwecn the A.T,J. and g.A.A.A. I hope your visit among us will be a most happy and plcnsrn t one and will, result in a better understanding of our mutual problems, aid I know the Local Committees of A.T.I. and the Canadian Asbestos miners have done a splendid job in malting your stay amongst us both happy and memorable" 3. President Grown then introduced Dr. Kenneth HA Smith. Medical Director of Johns-1 anville Corporation, who stressed the desirabili ty, indeed the necessity, of the asbestos industry telling the truth about the health of its employees and giving 'lie aningfui reports as to comnany experience. He pointed out that some of the more prolific writers on so-called `'asbestosis" have relatively little background of actual "cases" on which to base their theories or conclusions, as compared with our collective and also individual company experience over many years time. Dr. Smith urged full cooperation on the Part of various companies to open their records, and full cooperation with the work of the IAS. Public Health Service. He stated that the gen eral overall health of Johns-i anvilie longtime employees compared favorably with industry in general, and pointed to the steadily ex panding membership in their 25 year club as evidence of this fact* 4. President Brown then introduced br. Karl V. Lindell, Chairman, Canadian Johns-i anvil le Co., Ltd.., who expressed his pleasure at hav ing the opportunity to attend, this meeting, and-said that he would Hue to have ir. Ivan Sabourin, AC., attorney for the J.A.i .A. ,tell us about the work that has been done in past years 1o protect the iV, 1 1 .V >i '-4 ** V Minutes - General Meeting - continued: - 4 - health of asbestos workers, and about the outline planned for tMe newly formed !)ArD.A, program for Research jn Dining Pathology for the Study of Respiratory Diseases as related to Chrysotile Asbestos. Sene of the very interesting points brought out by Mr* Sabourin were: In the year 1935 the mining industry started X-raying their employees at regular intervals in order to safeguard their health* The Worth Carolina State Board of Health was contacted to compare netheds foe dust counting and for X-ray procedures* Also worked with those hos pitals in Canada that had compiled background experience in the field of resi- i ** at ~ ry c j. c eass Paid trtbi-v? to "A;. Paul Cartier of the Thetford Industrial Clinic, pointing rut rhr.t Dr. Cartier had contributed mmy valuable papers and reports on asbestos's over a. span of wary years. Also that Dr. Grainger of Canadian Jekes-Danville Co. bid - , Or* George bright or Cleveland, are! dr- A.,;.. Voiwald of * iotuo.it deserved much credit for tneir work and contributions to the increasing fund of general knowledge regarding asbestosis. Stressed thru: Hie mini rig industries reonire their doctors to keep up with the worh. being dene bv others on pncrooconiosis research, and to attend muetirwis both here and abroad, and participate in the dis cussions at those meetings- lie stated with great emphasis that the Ic-cwle'kee possessed, by the industry's dorters on the biological ef fects of chrysotile asbestos was not surpassed elsewhere in the world, mentioned that contacts have been male with doctors in Rus sia, East Germany, Finland, Italy, England and other countries. Expressed his belief that cancer is not necessarily involved due to association with asbestos. Pointed out that the A,I .A. article 'that appeared only about two weeks ago was not convincing - only informa tive - .indicates much further 'work is needed - regrets adverse publicit/ that results from such articles. Expressed the opinion that while the welfare of the worker should be the responsibility of management, we need to know more about the worker :s cir/l ronment after he leaves the riant. Explained that the i-AJ'./u program is still in the formative stage* YKcy seek alliance with some university, such as iicGiii. for example, sc that authoritative background for publicity can be had. The pro gram will start modestly, with competent men coming into it - men wath a vast background of actual experience. They recognize the need to consolidate experiences, and also having traveled widely in other countries, they find that research units are usually located adjacent to a large, well ecuipoed hospital. Frcouently, the worker lias a condition that is not attributable to association with asbestos, dis covered through cooperation with the hospital stable In conclusion/ I- r Sabourin expressed the thought that it would be v.'ondcrful if the Asbesros Textile Institute eouj.d join their efforts to the Q.A.D ,A- program for the benefit of all deplored I he isol?.tion of efforts and peer liaison between research laboratores and research units. Suggested that a common-counci1 as a governing body might be the answer and result in more rapid progress- 5, The next speaker was Dr, L.,T. Crallcv, ofthc U.o. Public Health Service, who for the past several years has be en supervising the ex tensive Environmental Study of asbestos employees in textile plants in the U.S.A. Dr- Crallcy said that the Stud'- was going well, ?nd _ fine cooperation from both management and employees has been experi enced. The U.S. Public Health Service is now extending their work into other asbestos industries such as asbestos-cement, etc, Feels that the results to date certainly justify the program and its fur ther expansion. Minutes - General Meeting - continued: - 5 - In other areas of activity the U.S.P.ll. Service presented a paper at the recent American Industrial Conference at Houston, Texas, which summarized their study experience in five plants. Draft.copies of two papers were distributed to our Air Hygiene Committee on June 3rd* The first paper by Jeremiah B. Lynch of the Dept, of Health, Educa tion and Welfare, titled "Asbestos Study - Procedure and Findings" and the second paper, titled "Relationship of Impinger Counts to Fibre Concentration by Membrane Filters in Asbestos Textile Plants". (Both of these papers are covered more fully in the report of oir Air Hygiene h Kfg. Committee which is attached to these minutes.) Dr. Cralley plans to speak at Seminars frequently in the future, such as University of Texas, insurance companies, etc. Mentioned that since the conference on "Biological Effects of Asbestos", held in New York last October, the New York Academy of Sciences has now established a "Division of Environmental Sciences". At the conclu sion of his talk Dr. Cralley answered several questions from the audience. 6. President Brown then asked Mr. N.W. Hendry, General Sales Mana ger for Canadian Johns-Manvillc Asbestos Limited, to report for the Fibre Committee. Mr. Hendry stated that inventories of spinning fibre are ample but substantially below the levels of one year ago. Demand for Group 3 fibres remained relatively flat in 1964 in most countries of the world with the exception of the U.3. and Europe. The increase in demand in the latter area was considerably greater than in the U.S. Business conditions in Japan are fair, Italy poor, Germany fair. United Kingdom good, and the remainder of Europe relatively good in the asbestos textile and asbestos-cement fields. It is expected, however, that the second half of 1965 will show an improvers nt over the first half in those areas of the world in which business condi tions have been below average. .. The average reduction in the -200 mesh McNett contend of spinning fibres from 1953 to 1965 is in the order of 50 - 75 per cent. New asbestos fibre production projected from new properties in Cana da includes the Clinton Creek property of Cassiar in 1968, Asbestos Hill of Asbestos Corporation in 1970, and the possible Reeves proper ty of J.M. in Northern Ontario. This new production will supply the asbestos-cement market principally. Russian production in 1964 at 1,600,000 tons exceeded that of Canada for the first time and this trend is expected to continue in the forward years. 7. Mr. ".Jay Flocken, our Legal Counsel, on being introduced by President Brown, gave an interesting talk on the subject of "Reci procity and Antitrust Law Enforcement in Relation to Reciprocity". A brief summary of his remarks follows: The subject of reciprocity is receiving renewed interest from antitrust enforcement agencies. Reciprocity generally is the rracticc whereby companies make concess ions to one another in order to promote their own business interest. The most common form of reciprocity is reciprocal buying. Although__ several recent merger cases which in part involved attacks on recip rocal buying practices, no court lias yet held nor lias the government yet charged that such practices are illegal in and of themseLves. Except for one merger case still pending in the courts, no government antitrust suit has challenged reciprocal practices as illegal and unreasonable restraints of trade or anticompetitive practices with out also attacking some other conduct. While it is still an open question, therefore, whether such practices may be illegal without Minutes - General Meeting - continued: - 6 - evidence of other anticompetitive conduct, it seems likely that in the near future reciprocity will be made the sole target of a govern ment antitrust suit. This discussion included consideration of the recent decision by the United States Suorcme Court upholding tlie FTC ruling against the acquisition by Consolidated Poods Corner ation of Gentry, Inc. Other merger cases discussed included the G.i . Diesel locomotive case; the General Dynamics Corporation case, the Ingersoll Rand Company case, and the Reynolds Tobacco Company-I'enick & Ford, Ltd. case 8. The Report of Funds was presented by E.A. Schuman, Treasurer, and is attached to these minutes. 9. It was moved by S. J. Poole, Jr., that the reading of minutes of the last meeting be omitted - seconded by E.L. Alexander - so voted. 10. The Committee Reports as made by their respective chairmen are attached to these minutes. J.P. V/ronski gave the report for tlie Fibre Testing Committee as its chairman, 1. Barnett, could not attend this meeting. 11. President Drown welcomed J.L. Mitchell as a representative of British Belting ft Asbestos, Ltd., stating that wcvcrc greatly pleased that he would be in regular attendance at our meetings. 12. President Brown announced that our next meeting would be held on the 7th and Gth of October, (arrival on the 6th) and tentative location was Hotel llcrshey, Bershey, renna. Subsequent to the meet ing, it was found that the Hotel llershcy could not accommodate our meeting on those particular dates, and it has been decided to hold the October meeting at "The INN", Buck Hill Palls, Pcnna., October 6-8th. The liliJ is a famous iiostelr'- delightfully located in the scenic Tocono Mountains. It should be on ideal time of year to be there, with autumn foliage at its height. Located 100 miles from either New Vorlc or Philadelphia, it nay be readied by Erie-Lade awanna train to Cresco (3 miles to INN). Limousine meets pll trains. By air there is commercial service to Scranton-Vlilkes Parre or Allentown-Pethlehem-Easton Airports. Trivate or chartered planes nay land at Mount Pocono A.irpcrt. By car froi.i New York or Philadelphia is a three hour drive over excellent roads. The INN operates on the Amer ican Plan, and the daily rates, including all weals, is Double Room $19-$21 per person; Single Room $20-$22 per person; single occupancy of cbuble room $25 per person. SO -- MARK YOUR CALENDAR - nThe INN:>, Buck Hill Falls, Pa., October 6th to 8th ----- and bring your WIFE! 13. President Brown paid tribute to A.J. Scanlan, Treasurer of the Institute in 1953 and 1954, and Vice President in 1959-1960, who passed away on February 13, 196*?. President Brown stated that le had sent a letter of sympathy to Mrs. Scanlan at direction of the -----Board of Governors of the Institute and had received a nice letter from her in reply. lie then asked the members to observe a moment of silence in memory of "Ank" Scanlan. y- \ \ i Minutes - General Mooting - continued: -7- 14. President Brovm reported that "Jnck" Bettes, of Ioybestos ^anbatv.nn.Tnc. , wr.c unable to attend this mooting due to the fact. that he w\c not yet fully rccbverod from a recent major operation, hov/over ho is now back at his desk on a part-timebasis, Jack, always a staunch supporter of A.T.Iprobably hasn1t missed a meeting in the last twenty years, and v.e felt bis aboeno most ke ar.ly. P.ls many friends in tho Institute wish him a speedy return to complete good health, 15. The mooting then adjourned for luncheon, to which the wives had boon invited, and it proved a most enjoyable affair. 16. Adjournment of tho mooting followed luncheon. respectfully submitted, /, i; ii! ii/; 3uribury - ^-e>V-S-c-cr etary '{ i > S