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FILE NAME Quebec Asbestos Mining Association QAMA DATE 1968 Nov 25 DOC QAMA119 DOCUMENT DESCRIPTION Minutes of the 107 Meeting of the QAMA | MINUTES OF THE 107 MEETING OF THE QUEBEC ASBESTOS MINING ASSOCIATION HELD ON MONDAY NOVEMBER 25th 1968 AT THE CHATEAU FRONTENAC QUEBEC CITY Present Messrs W. K.V. Oughtred Lindell R.S. Colamen A. Main J. Merrill F.P. Smith I.C. Campbell Y. Couture R. Hebron J.O. Eby W.H. Foster J.R.M. Hutcheson L. Pluze 0. Poirier M. Prus P.H. Riordon E. Weber Geo Rocinson 1. Sabourin Peul Filteev The President the Association chaired the of the meetings of July 30th September 20th approved as submitted by the Secratary meeting and 21st Minutes of 1968 were The President then called on the Chairmen of varivao rious us of the various SMe standing standing committees TECHNICAL COMMITTEE The committee held its last meeting on November the 12th in Quater City at which Messra Woodrnoffe and Winer from Ottawa Dr. P.E. Auger and J.P. Boldue of the Quebec Department of Natural Resources fe ^'45s Coste woe were in attendance The following account the work in progress under the direction direction of committees S 1. Filtration Filtration of estratos representative of subject committee mixes - Following to Ottawa It was visit of agreed that ... 2 Srekebi-., 4SR SRTnT a f ArsS"ense atte GAs RMS FHeeeAOTE ABP,geese,2a gies.SMe oF Fg Same en Seth Mod nade EBT ee ite ON dd heeeb lta ee. oa - se . wha! , intpate tea.ye: ae ee iy OF. et at. wt 4 LE f ti. Saud OS ae oS set tree +N S ON twee le aTawe twee Saw PePest oayy ast se : aarti. or ee 4 oi. C abcd * _ aa . abet 1 rid wwe + . . ) fh) La Se OaSeat Oe, 20s wr iete . owt. vee . ~- oe Se 4 v4, m . * . C r Se cee eaten s thay et 2 the Minerel Processing nary program to define Division would the filtration carry out a limited prelimiproblem more precisely 2. Product handling - It was pointed out that the Manchester Line was about to inaugurate a new container ship service Mention wa made of the increasing use and wide acceptance of containers in ship- ments to London and other British ports Some minor however has baan encountered with containers at the Rivers due to objections from the stevedores difficulty port of Three- There seems also to be increasing requests from U.S.A. for unitized loads with coverings or strapping to prevent shifting within the railroad cars A proposal was made to hold a committee meeting shortly at which attendance should be enlarged to include members of the Traffic Committee atc \ 3. Fibre Strangth Unit - It was stated that the committee had j\i ---0 aes } submitted an interim report at the last Technical Committee H but that the meeting cy report had been left in abeyance pending a consensus of opinion among committes representativas the Concerning request for a review of the test procedures and for a second F.S.U. Round Robin by the Uniform Classification and Grading Committee it was deemed advisable to ask the latter whather the results obtained to date are acceptable or whether additional efforts at im- provement of interlacoratory reproducibility are warranted The inter / 7 pees me R labM or, atory variation has been showned been tobe significant significant significant api GTR of nace mig eee eer 4. Magnetic Rating - Since the variations on the first M.R. Round Robin ee were blamed upon the operators it was agreed that using the same ope- rator and standard at each laboratory would selved the problem and indicate whether or not the procedure as written is satisfactory ... s PSL Seer et a EET mw ee aa TR Bae HE tI - ' . C C ' . . ; . as, : h od Praag erie tects A Se... rare = = OSS ov Ain cat MR f f oe a ee OSE : votes ae ye LS tac ys Soh,O OR SRR 8 YO pean) Vaehl RatiBoagsS s A, ee st lod She vee Ray. agtataly Pid Cig OCS ARG . 3 , } ek wens i a Ande eraee we : * SRS Nt Shel 8 RL at , ay . week pe TURE mb ae AO Ree Cee . a Sa ect a aes Rar iai l e Coss . ' - ad . oy OD aA sa ee RARE AY Sy a e aw ri aU re ek R Rec Et eeu He BEREAN * 5. Miscellaneous - In his review of the work presently being done in Ottawa the Chairman reported that a request had been made to tha Mineral Processing Olvision of the Mines Branch to present a lecture at the next meeting of the Technical Committee to be held in Ottaws on the subjects of x } Optimizing design of experiments : Zeta potential measurements Manville research center has indicated out statistical analyses for the Q.A.M.A. at the costs involved its willingness to carry a fee which would cover UNIFORM CLASSIFICATION AND CRADING COMMITTEE Maines The report of the Chairman can be summarized as follows Maines de asFie. Sot. v0 KIM 1. Sherbrooke Laboratory - The Diiector has been having trouble in keeping personnel since the beginning of the year but after five changes it appears that ha has found a permanent junior technician as of late October , SAMLAR A revised price list for Sherbrooke laboratory tests by special re- SAMLAR quest from companies has been approved by the Committee ; Test : Number of Tests Price after ; Nov 25.1968 2 Saraa se) Air Classifications Clasifcations Classifications Classifications Classifications Classifications ClassificatiColasnsisfications : Color N Crudy Content ^' Dyckerhoff 2 Freenese Crit & Spicul : Kacquene ' 3 Sr 2 3 3 3 3 2 | i : Te St ee 10.00 10.00 10.00 96 REKA . hen ges PU 3.50 15.00 : 5.50 J i 5.00 { 20.00 7.00 ' . : ! | if i | / ve ... 1 | . a . eee , . eS fn ore mee yee te ee QT me fs A fang te nd . tee tw 1 en eye ad om pe Disab sakewe h a eee ] . . - ett i ES ons Cl tee 2 View eater lS 3. od . 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Wat Sudget = The Chairman 3.00 commented briefly his his can found SEP i Rel Rendom cedures been agreed cedures issue upon From now on the fibre report report member showing comps- ae issue between Q.5.maximum companies every 3 Carload Shipping Average Q.5.maximum Highest Test Average Test Test Cerload on Carload Production the Shipping Highest Random O.S. ee rr Inspector the Production the. and and Average Rendom - Q.S. Production Test Test, Ih * a was the the 12th meetingmeeting Committee sow se . ~ "" meeting ofthe meeting meeting the Committee Committee Committee November November was held on November November November the 12th Thare idea! ; 12th Thare Thare was SEES was held 15th Be asw is LR | { the also also meeting meeting November November safety director Mr.W. Mr.W. safety safety problems ! Montgomery problems Montgomery discuss general industry industry . we general Y Atablems tn the meraly There There seems to be interpretation of labour points points interpretation interpretation of ladour agreements agreements agrcaments, da i SON Tan ea tate ron ae. oe ie ane nos, ae St Ieee eeS e et arte /5 seo Maids ew i te ate ele Sr Se Eeee, . games mw,duaszee es$4.2 4X, fe ana 2 Wo at oe ee,wim estenes. hf Sete Smad, ey - wen. : C bt , LanddesSI stot Laer ens: EPearwy St Bes, att % otvad Seg we . Reet, rN te a auOe R t eae Sbebtaret . aw, EY akee Raeticy shy we eet Bryant . ae +e a Aye Be Tag TA RATES T ole : : wit aos te vee TE ne, ; be. AY et ay ~" penasdl PCAHRE core on ne eda? . Naren SLANGaaf an areas Eee Wh 1. Labour mands for Negotiations - The Union hes not submitted its de the next contracythese are expected shortly after Decem- ber the lat At one of the companies sollicitation is being con- ducted by tion will a rival union and a vote to be taken in December before determine actual representaOfficers of the Department 6P Labour 2. Minimum Wage Act - The meeting was informed that the Minister of Labour intended to propose an emendment to the Minimum Wage Act granting a by the Act equivalent minimum of 2 weeks annual vacation to after one year of continuous service to % of wages earned during previous all workers covered Vacation pay to be period of one year AEE or less _ cee 3. Pneumoconiosis Claims - Counsel was asked to explain the mecha- ~? rien To NiN bao SE nics of processing e the opportunity of a pneumoconiosis claim discussing at length the Counsel was glad to procedure involved have Ha stated that after completing and filing form S.S. 12 the cess is reviewed by the pneumoconiosis board in Montreal In most cases Menten awards are made without any personal appearance of claimants or [ey nearing of parties concerned In the opinion of Counsel time may Les HE have come to cell for a down in a typical case where the company PDA concerned and its doctor wish to object very strangly Such en WOLTER 4 a WW BUTE ve Te appeal would be made to the Workmen's Compensation Board in Quebec to Iscourse must be had It was also emphasize pressured pressured should brought on the Government to obtain better employer repte-sentation on the Workmun's Compensation Board It was also stressed that there could possibly be greater collaborating between the Asbes- $27 tos clinic and the Thatford Mines clinic the > Gees _ p p p p GR ae ee kn et _ ; Fey Bag Debs 4 . 4 ea ... 16 ~ ace ok te Se eeny eeeFala aWe th we ~ 2 . c a C \ \ caseLoeree foi setaont Senet iLER EOiysy . . an.aaya:RP eSA:T,dare a t iat -dsat7teee - ree an hid my supe cet DOS wr oa ee aE A?SE Ovn etsYee ~ ok See Sy Ag . -. a 2 : ' ye naa - When 4 De there on 4. Mine Rescue Station Expenses for 1969 - Rosolved that the allocation of costs of Roscue Station during 1969 be calculated Thetford Mines Rescue Station the Thetford Mines on the following besist x a Building and Equipment Capitel cost rent maintenance etc. ? , OMMAPA Solbec & Cupre 180 men 35 QAMA 331 men 65 b Superintendent's Salary OMMAPA South Shore QAMA Sll men 501 331 men men 100 _ c Superintendent's Travel Expenses - 832 men To Casp^' Solbec Cupra QMMAPA QAMA New Calumet and Oka Caneral Superintendent Mine Rescue Training Plan 100 nil Salary and Travel Expenses OMMAPA QAMA 4646 331 men men 937 yeetsaa e L rhs vere Fh DOES AS RR iti Te 4977 men ON 100 Pat %* Bee ad 9 SpatesL4oe gpa YA ee Wet, ne 5 ADOPTED The preparation of a resolution proposing the transfer of the mine rescue building and equipment Thetford Mines to the Department of Natural Resources was left with Mr. I.C. Campbell and Counaal for ap- proval of the Directors at the next meeting ve menitny ga ea ie toe gin ee tes tte ten ect ewer 2 ane! az Stevesee ee Rg ha + fs'8:" POL pombe ehh dnide Nae eet ra tel teste etn Fooato . t AEE eal er wan EMAARselene FETE aa ie auent Se at at a am, rie Crs oa . RE ee AS A Sean x erchca Nia a wee.Bier!vi, wa EERO . Sees wr ye OP tae, SON, seo:eat aia f- e e aM ene Ws noe"ee ew wefe em a eraped masa vet of DA ee isdRktencet r pa pechtmeenen Tee147 wane 34 Sot RSahee-niraeMEret SNE a NY Besededr ee e Fak . io. MO AesnggOres ae= egg FT TRAFFIC COMMITTEE eps oe eg sy ett The Chairman reported that at a meeting of his committee held on November Line for 14th consideration had been given to the carriage of asbestos to Continent employing the Arctic for the year 1969 This has Canadian been brought about by the unsatisfactory service from the Continental conference during 1960. It was anticipated that this could be arranged at no increase in cost over 1968 retes ---- requested approval in principle to negotiate such an arrangement Provided the approval of Lake Asbestos it was agreed that such .. negotiations could be undertaken LEGISLATION AND TAXATION COMMITTEE wath VAP TO Hee In the absence of the Chairman the General Manager reported on the recent changes In with reference to Federal Income Tax the Cartar Report Legislation the Minister indicating of Finance that had stated House that a draft bill would in due course be placed before the the Provincial Ministers and the public for study and di ees ne hs cussion Tee The Chairman of the Committea has expressed the view that the Commit- wets tee should undertake to investigate local tax matters municipal asassments school taxes etc. in this connection it was suggestad Bec that the Chairman Invite representation from each company and that drabre committee meetings of the be held at regular intervals Bd wheels et we he, seo RELATIONS COMMITTEE 2te SSy u fee 2 a ve PUBLIC a es : Ce Gea at Te iH Praag aa] +breneeaeare RGSS. Stee ee There have been questions raised from time to time as to whether the NTS Q.A.M.A. was getting full value for the amount of money it has been ROET ERol 0 ayes 7 S_ o pe Nlon. yon esNUae ras teeeTialaisoare wid Braise?7. Te Vates ... Ee em ee tee ne erie a teen aE ieee rays - a bara casts cee hates 4yiviney eds. nnfem'y Sweeties peo grean tls, . Samsaatetele dara . eso 4 were Nene oy eens: 1a3n. ookmn reeNRoaneettesSawnedrartetenk. of Penite r RS , a ee ea ut Nee ue 8 LEW a + a nytt hace tytn tiTnTeT a seen d nye tt PENIS. Sine eT ES Pe EO eO eRT SINE AL NO apnnnerhraetabe 7 aot -ahoa . oeOP lh) POLI a. me ~~ Leh mee aa wena e a povetine * 2 mSre a ; OS ne NOARES = cor tt, we a Te eee etrgrengl he aah oR aeinre TE hy Sia a SNe lal Ty PO _ soar Neft eetbeans EE wee Te Vel Wet Nea dd ras TF ; 8 spending on its P.R. Program At the last meeting of the Committee held on November 14th the Chairman suomitted an alternativa azte gement in an attempt to lower the cost Briefly the proposal re- commands that Mr. Gossip be hired by the Association as a full time thus devoting 100 of his employes reporting to the General Manager The immediate advantage is an estimated time to Q.A.M.A. affairg saving of approximately 15,000 to 20,000 a year The recommen- dation of the committee was left with the Directore till next meeting for review and decision ate4 + The P.R. Committes of tha Mining Association of Canade is finally functionning and preparing in collaboration with other mining essaciations a somewhet broadened program to further the public image of the industry INSTITUTE OF OCCUPATIONAL AND ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH COMMITTEE Some of the recent activities of the Institute were summarized by the , : . wet ge weaetesabetsyre. t+ Chairman as follows a A mesothelioma Registry Conference was held in tamber under the chairmanship of Ors Selikoff U.S.A. lata Sepand Kotin with representation from U.S.A. Canada South Africa and Japan to discuss the organization and purpose of a national registry of QRS BEAL coe ee b ee der c mesothelioma A mesothelioma Registry Confarence was held in Montreal on Novem- ber 15th 16th 1968 under the Chairmanship of Dr. Rolland Cuy to discuss the Canadian situation a ye y i * et fit STINT is to get the cases notified A study of Asbestos taken by Ors Cowle Insulation Workers in Ontario and Sutherland of Taranto has been under- SE, ... RRA OND pea ANTES ASTON PROSE ES EAT Ts { quem genni PEAS As AR SO 2 2S ow entt BM . ote weet . : +. Boat out ry er RA oe ; . : . . oe. = . eget, wtb Toe ae te eNO Ls >. a ee 8 SeNe eat . oe, rly. 2h aaels t altar. in of . & 1? Coarr Siwy a SNE ane . BG ao Le Pree gorse parwetnee SNK. 2 Bi | SAL PW wees PAP dee nte i. see es: d Dr. Geo W. Wright presently visiting asbestos research canters in South Africa France Wost Germany and Italy No doubt he will submit a report on his return e A paper on Ferruginous bodies given by a French doctor at a recent l Conference of the U.S. Industrial Hygiana Foundation and Mellon Institute in Pittsburg would indicta hat t eno ferruginous bodies in that limited study ha has just made would have any rapprochement with chrysotile fibre The author shows that ferruginous bodies are formed from an excess iron in the blood without the assistance of any foreign fibril agent Brief comments were also recantly appeared in the made Wall on those already known Street Journel and the articles which New Yorker eooste f Surcharge for medical sug-g se ugs ge tse ted d proper to cope equitably for all with the increasing chargas motivated by the HEALTH PROBLEMS could well be to build up a sufficient fund via an overall increase in prices The Chairman proposed that a meeting tors of seemed in order the Association in this connection a meeting of the date suggested December 19th where Directhe whole situation could be discussed said meeting to take place in the absence of Counsel to which objection was taken v.g. by Direc- reminrdeepdresenting Limited being the TSE ane panes te Bes te = .. tor cd in Canadian Manville Co. it it | arene representing representing , >? CanaCd anadi ian a on f 1 Jahns ManvileManvilManvilele Co. LimLi imitet d Lie mited dteeLimitietdit Leones that the policy of the Association was not to meet ne A : absance of Counsel which line of policy was confirmed ; In view of the concern expressed about the C.J.M. proposal to i print a warning on every bag of asbestos the meeting was advised : that this proposal had not been made effective as yet by said com- |. : pany However it feels very vulnerable on the U.S. market re POS at em pl ent 1 en COR Ne ta ed tn aE Or TY dardaba CR is ee 7 2 ca ae aims ca 94 Siteing 10 HiattMe CRANE | See te ee oe, Weert s* gars fMteegs se \ nesTapaPek OS ney * . Sage ~ : aa t Meee eh NT Fe Me BOR EG te SEM eae DCA o aeF,n y ee y we aliagdsty: w Sha C C , anvaraases PETIAapa Gr a5 So Ne SES FF brs fete!om tetasbins termes ye 2! ses. see = ; esr: Sarre . rahe NATEDEars on: wr ete So ela) Elan rye aes SOR IN TITER ae eet LURES oa . tele SE SOS ^' 3 . 2 = . g z u by 10 a & ' - rs ee The Institute of Occupational and Environmental Health recommends 8a that the giving of asbestos fibre specimens and asbestos for model- ey ling and moulding v.g. lessons in sculpture in school cleases be discontinued This acttor is to be reviewed at the next meeting FA ae Ae ENVIRONMENTAL CONTROL wee ere In a writtan report the Chairman reviewed the various projects EA study by his committee Copies of this report which outlines points and status of the several projects were distributed to WANE bers in attendancs under ~ key mem- ote Se J ; oh { : i . ; i : b id | | i i li : 4 . i 2 z i * pee 1 a ? : : r Proposed air pollution legislation - The Committee has studied working document concerning legislation proposed by the Quebec the De- partment of Heelth The Committee considers this document to be of extreme importance to the Asbestos Industry and made several yon comments which are to be incorporated in a letter to be prepared by the Chairman of the Committes and the Caneral Manager At the re- commendation of the Committee the industry should clearly indicate In the letter its wish to have the opportunity to participate directly in the preparation of the final legislation on air pollution by the Quebec Covernment \ EY eee i | | 1 1969 Budget ^' a The Treasurer tabled the proposed budget of the Association and the F Institute for 1969. Explanations of the estimates under the various a headings were given following which approval was sollicited from a the Directors 7. were es , LoR. 5 aa...rart Tete Sra TASRRA: ACCEPTED ACCEPTED ACCEPTED amrvsmrereri)* bree preg Tar aren rere a rean Se RO ... , iN Sok eeennerensVolant tend,ALN. ~ MO = Le Sees os nxt ate \nN \ . . Reyne * weehet lerepSs anaes lateet wh < tt ce catesMatas : SReITE ARPS IR nsne ia ain Pe Spi ee Ler . carers ae gt eee Mas amS ega ees APRN NES, te o2 SF. Et ye oe 7 hehe Ne 7 ast mee, PAZ. ALI Pee ; 11 te eee Sat eh TOLee RS Re CE WEN NN I ee AIO ew GRE OCT Counsel's accounts were submitted by the Treasurer for the approval of the Directors These accounts were approved for payment as 8 follows IAT a b Account with Account with Q.A.M.A. 1.0.E.H. for the For the years 1966-67 - 50,000.00 period from Jenuery lat 1967 to October 1st 1968 - 48,500.00 It was suggested that ete the future statements and of each year IE - by Counsel be submitted et eter ins et Ft ... ... . ...... ...... . ... ... ......................... ............ .... ............ ... ...... ... bt yv # 25A25A 25A et ee weSe eht 77a ae Sy Outside requesta PNAS e A request by Quobec for authorization to use research information on asbestos in concrete contained in the papers of Gillis and Collins granted by the Directora Lakin p^/^/kida p^/p^/k^id/a ^/kida b A request for financial assistance towards the Centre for East beyond Asian Studies at McGill University waseturned down the scope of the normal activities of the Association tobe BF ye p^/kida c The Directors decided that the Association had done its share in TVGuthra the erection of Level Geological Garden and a further request from TVGuthra Laval for finencial assistance it could not at this time give favo- TVGuthra rable consideration It was pointed out that several companies had been individually solicited by Lavel in recent months v^ : Ss haeain Sega h^tFUuTURESPECIAL MEETINGMESETINGGSare: \ eg Raeeage eee Owe tt pte nee sa h^t u futurespecial A revised scheduloef reservations for meetings of the #TUNELVT General Managerand general Association was submitted by the M^ NED approval as follows given PINTURAFTIYae! fees: BSR ia astiid ee aiir eer stag RR ate 2 ee yan ane wnpete+ r= s e Near PeLren - See . ee tpotFeeeSt malncon ee here as a te dec rd ee. o SNn e a sy NE : See AR of CTA NSrS abedad DAE aeerwieaeaes C C re -- ^' rss Spateant: Pinaceae osLP4FetEtoL:teTsasgest ipa ore a8 EN SPOS el SETAE Asia TENya e ae {| pecs oe. hae at we b pees 12 . _. ethrs IES ate swe LL, . bs ea YEAR Co-abeds es 1969 SEASON Spring DATE April 17-20 LOCATION Bellevue Biltmore Cleezuater 1969 Fall Oct. 7-10 Seigniory Club Quebec riety 1970 Winter March 19-22 Caribbean Beach Club Antigua SS Cine, 1970 Fall Oct. 7-10 Santa Barbara Biltmore Cal eee +" 1971 Winter March 18-21 Pierre Marques Acapulco Mexico tach 1971 7 Fell Oct. 10-14 The Broadmoor Colorado Springs 1972 Winter March 16-19 | Boca Raton Hotel Florida Leth 1972 Fall Oct. eneee S*eigniory Club Quebec ce ERTS NOMINATING COMMITTEE dS Mr. F.P. Smith wes elected Chairman of a Nominating Committee and TE will be assisted by two 2 other directors of his own choosing EIA This committee to propose a slets of officers and committee chair- men for 1969 at the annual meeting of the Association in January 1969 anes mew we ss LOPLI vee Ne ra tere aear ahbYMere. setfeeee ate oeea ORBITS Te, SE. Ga ESTSEES RO DATE OF NEXT MEETING aR The 1969 annual meeting of the Association will be held et 10.00 a.m. Lane on January 28th 1969 at the Mont Royel Hotel Montreal Tn res.at ADJOURNMENT We business was terminated ..:. eek, eo) Se no ieey ~? te git saa act EEE 2 Sy oe : ee There being no GAR SR oes pone ee:en further further tat businesfs re the meeting was s Aratheee Miyt dSg 244% Ee eaterminat.ed ngER Bis ar deve: A* spe es ret on | eae ha om yt . teWLS 1 . Poul A. Filteau - General Manager Secretary & Secretary . > . - sioner LD siete e se ;Pel enh! meen yxy se RY}wroniebuatigensoageiseg nee > oc FLUY A he cpa stpee ey se nAeye Sot tewe ore e ... e ... war Ah, Sale Mena ae pean Fe en AMET LG SATteeae pteoareaezisCOA HseNteO TASSC ae? T wahSaeynMae aat ie Sioned Sanna s ar beara Meese aE RAL Hg SaEAP ee DIC ie Re SMR PRAT Ne Sh 2