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FILE NAME Owens Corning OC DATE 1941 May 23
DOC OC068
DOCUMENT DESCRIPTION Detailed Trip Report Including Union's Concern
About Silicosis Hazard
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OWENS CORNING FIBERGLAS CORPORATION
COMPANY CORRESPONDENCE
General - ToleTod leo do Ohio
May 23
1941
Attention of
Mr. Harold bosschenstein
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Subject
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Mr. W. P. Zimmerman Mr. E. J. Marshall Hr C. G. Steelin - ~~
Kr T. 8. Rogers
Aspects Fibergla of Chicago
Tuesday
May 20 1941
Mr. W W. . Thomas = St.Louis St.Louis
Health Health
Fibergla
r
The detailed trip report follows
Results
. Assurance by Mr. Bartley that local No. 1 will take no action before June 3 and practical assurance that
the result will be favorable
2. Revelation that the union's concern is with the possibility of a silicosis hazard and that the dermatitis hazard is secondary and not nearly so important as we
had been led to believe
3. Com.lete Com.lete satisfaction of the questions raised by the
A.I.H. section
4 Contact established with Ertional Safety Council and way pava~ for earrying out a helpful program with then
5. Discovery of the role of Defense Comission investigators in re Fiberglas materials and Conservation of Manpower
program
At the request of the newly formed St. Louis section of the American Industrial Hygiene Association the following Corning representatives reached St. Louis Monday May 19 prepared to discuss the health aspects of Fiberglas products
Dr. H. h Campbell
Owen Morris
Tyler Stewart hogers Roy J. Scott Carl G. Staelin
Present also representing the St. Louis office are
George Beaker W. R. ThoRAS
Mr. Boeschenstein
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May 23 1941
Exhibit A
Exhibit B
and representing A. G. Brauer Supply Company St. Louis marketers
industrial insulation markstars
Cacar Brauer
.
William Thompson Three other representatives
s
.
A suite Room 434 was engaged at the Forest Park Hotel which was selected as headquarters because the dinner meeting of the A.INA A.INA was scheduled in that hotel at 6:15
Shortly after arrival we telephoned
Mr. Killiam H. Bartley .
of Bartley e Mayfield Chestmit 7163 Mr. Bartley in attorney for
Local No. of the Asbestos workers Union He confirmed his accept-
ance of our invitation to his and the members of the Executive Com
mittee of the Union to meet with us in the suite
~
Shortly before Deon Mr. Bartley arrived with
Mr. Gus Schmitter
business agent of the union local and the following officers and
members of the Union's Executive Committee
Mr. Gerry O'Connor President Mr. Blayter Becretary
Mr. Peopler
Mr. Brabizan Mr. Block And one other
Before their arrival ample displays of both wool and textile products were arranged about the suite together with mounted pictures
showing manufacturing processes and applications
In the meantime Mr. Ames had telephoned
Hr N. A. Thiemann Suite 1944 Pieres Building
St. Lunris - Tel Mlin 5540
... President of the St. Louis Section of the ...
te suggest pre-
cedure for handling the evening meeting Mr. Thiemann who is engi-
neer with the St. Louis office of the Hartford Assident and Indennity
Company agreed to some to the hotel during the afternown to discuss
the matter further
Mr. Boeschenstein
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In the meantime , too Messrs Strelin and
Dr. Roy Philip Schols St. Louis
Thomas
for surgical
surgeon who has
suturing material for three years
Dr. Scholz agreed to furnish us with a statement
ad been having with the material
visited the office of
been using Fiberglas
They reported that
about the results be
To Mr. Bartley Mr. Auss
evident that Mr.
gave the greeting of Kr Marshall and it was
ley
emphasised
Bartley
the
has
a
high
regard
for
Mr.
Marshall
Mr.
favorable impression that Mr. Marshall has
Bart-
upon him his willingness to meke information information available
many times his statement that his interest
created He reiterated
aspects of our materials
extends only to the health He was emphatie in his
titive propagands actual or
contention that expe-
determination to make
implied implied has no bearing whatsoever en his
an objective and disinterested appraisal of the
xhitit p
in groups of twos and threes
and photographs on display natured relaxation
and
The
fours soncerned principally the samples
atmosphere was one of comfortable
influence among them is paramount and his Mr. Bartley is a florid portly haired
55 years old He has a professional
gentleman approximately
legel business of the
manner and appears to dominate the
excellent
A.F. of L. building trades in St. Louis No has
several political connections in Jefferson City being a member of
state boards devoted to workers welfare He is
straight incorrutible incorrutible
sulate their
easy to talk to
The union mambers look to him to arti-
perplexities and they regard him as their shampion Ris
they will act anly on his
statement that
recommendation said in a matter manner aims
suggestion
of porpouaness
or bossting
is
borne
out
by
the
any
confidence
that they manifest toward him
Schnitters While a buffet luncheon was being served Mr. Bartley Mr.
and Mr. Ases drew apart at Mr. Bartley's suggestion Mr.
viewed his interest interest in the subject and took from his
Bartley re-
sopy of the resolution
briefcase briefcase a marked
issue
of the
Asbestos
relating to Fiberglas that appeared in the April Worker He dismissed as almost mamorthy of comment
the called dermatitis hasard siting the fact that
are
allergic
to
ingredients
of
cement
mixtures
and
many have
sement
workers
know how in handling lest they suffer skin irritationtoHeaeqsutirreessesdoms
oes
Exhibit E
a
Mr. Rosachenstein
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e fact that dermatitis is common complaint in many of the building trades and that when an individual is found to be allergic to a terial he ought to find a means of livelihood where he is not obliged
to expose himse toltf he materorisatil ck lon eno enu a g jobh to
condition himself and develop immunity toward the material
Oppermost in Mr. Bartley's thinking is the possibility of salled silicoxia hasard in handling Fiberglas No requested information about that
A.I.Hak pointed out that he was looking forward to the presentation at the A.I.Hak
meeting and emphasised thrt he had been in touch with Mr. Thieman of whom he had requested permission for himself and the executive committee members to atten not with the thought of introducing controversy into the mating but because be considered the meeting a good opportunity to
became informed
Nr Anes informed kr Bartley that we were looking forward to having the
union representatives attend the dinder as our guests He took a poll of the representatives and they agreed Mr. Anus poimed out that the attitude of the union representatives and that of the A.I.M.A. were parallel on the question of finding out the trus qituation in re possible hazard and therefore we were looking forward very much to the apportunity of putting all facts at their disposal
At approximately 2:30 Mr. Bartley lled the Union group to order To
introduce the subject he pointed out to the Union representatives that
he wan gratified that Corning should be idilling to met the issus
~
( with fairness and frankness The resolution from the Asbestos Farker
was read and at that point Kr Scott interrupted
to set the resord
stright by by reading the letter from Consolidatod Edison to the affect
that they do not regard Fiberglas as a hazardous material and know of
no effects deleterious to health
The interruption had a good effect for it illustrated that we were prepared to conduct a frontel action e unterattacking allegations with documentary proof
Then Mr. Ames spoke painting out that although Fiberglas is a new material it is already basic in hundreds of different applications He aited humanitarian uses like the use of Fiberglas by Dr. Schols in sur-
gical sutures battleship insulation inoer soles for policeman's shoes
and oil refinery insulation tracer threads in surgical spenges and ear
iceds of glass wol for refrigerator insulation Es mentisend mentisend airplane
uses and army and navy uses
Mr. Boeschenstein
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Exibit F Exhibit C
He pointed out that it is right and proper that anyone not familiar
with Fiberglas should inquire about health aspects of the material that we had received merous inquiries and had answered them all to the satisfaction of the interrogators that insurance companies state departments of welfare manufacturers industrial physicians safety
engineers all wanted to know
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Pennsylvania Safe Practices Conference which published Mr. Rogers
address as Bulleton No. 50. He called attention to the fact that we are not amateurs in the glass business and that although our company is comparatively new it stems from the research and development activity of two established glass companies which were pioneers in the work
of encouraging medical investitions investitions to protect their people against
the dread disease silicosis He said the danger of silicosis exists
only where free silica is in the and that when the fusion of silica
and the other miner1 ingredients of the batch takes place silica
becomes a silicate He compared this phenomenon to what happens when sodium a highly corrosive metal combines with chlorine a poison gns to make sodium chloride or common table salt He compared it also
to what happens when hydrogen a highly explosive gas combines with
exxygen to make water without which man could not live
Exhibit B
Exhibit
But he emphasized even though it was known to be true that a sili-
coais hazard exists only where free silice in infinitesimally fine
partiales is likely to be breathed good business sense told me that
we should anticipate questions about this versatile new glass and
determine whether in its fibrous form glass night conceivably mise
an unknown hasard Recordingly he acid we enlisted the services
of the most eminent medical authority in the field of lung disorders
Dr. Leroy U. Gardner director of Saranac laboratory whose experiments not only reassured us about the absence of any silicosis hasard but
made it possible for us to go ahead with an absolutely alear conscience as regards the welfare of our own production employees and the employees of memfacturers or contractors applying the materials as well are are
gards any possible ability that might Jeopardise our business
Mr. Anas also pointed out that our own group insurance rates are low
and that we enjoy an industrial compensation rate 95 per 100 af |
payroll for wool workers and 664 for textile workers as compared with
100 for asbestos manufacturers 1.10 for magnesia manufacturers | 1.60 alay products manufacturers etc.
a X
At.this point Mr. Staelin was introduced and discussed Dr. Gartner's
research
Mr. Ames then recapitulated Mr. Staelin's remarks calling attention to the final sentence in Dr. Gardner's report
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Axhibit
Exhibit Exhibit 1
Exhibit L
Mr. Boeschenstain
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Trusting these findings may allay any scepticism as to a theoretical hasard involved from the handling of glass wool I an ....
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Mr. Ames then introduced Dr. Campbell who bore testimony to the
health program at the Newark plant Dr. Campbell had assembled
figures showing the incidence of various kinds of diseases among
1055 production employees He pointed out that although the average
age of the employed group studied in 31 - the age where the inci-
dence of tuberculosis is high
there were fewer lung disorders
among our people than among other average groups He said that
as plant physician he is much more concerned about good housekeeping
to make sure that ship ing elerks do not fall from loading docks and
break legs than about lung or skin disorders that new workers 500-
times are concerned about skin irritation until they become accustomed
to handling our products under the tutelage of older employees employees on the
basis of whose experience we drafted our recommended practices out
forth in Fiberglas Standards F 4.2.1 Dr. Campbell mentioned Dr. Evans statement to him following a visit to the Newark plant in June
1940 that the difference between handling of Fiberglas by ont
employees and by Fiberglas employees wa one of attitude
Dr. Campbell cited an excerpt from an article by J. W. Miller and
R. R. Sayers en Response of Peritoneal Tissue to Industrial Dusts from the American Ceramic Society's publication publication Vol 20 No. 5 May 1941 reprinted from U.S. Public Health Reports The article lists glass wool among the inert dusts that cause no pulmonary
fibrosis
Mr. Rogers then spoke about other mineral wools and he compared then to Fiberglas in regard to cleanliness and dusting He described his experience before the Pennsylvania Safety Practiess Conference
Kr Ames was called from the room at this point to meet Mr. Thiemann The conferencs continued with Mr. Scott presiding and the discussion turned into an informal question session
When Mr. Ames returned about 5:30 Mr. Slayter the union secretary
songratulated us on the way we had put out the information and assured Kr Amas that they were well satisfied and when they decided to use Fiberglas they'd keep on wing it until the end of time
In his discuisn sRoi om o43n1 Mr. Ames prev upona Mri . Thl imme annd to
defer the business session and discussion of convention papers util
the Fiberglas discussion was completed He was persuaded to do so en the assumption that the union man would become restless if they were
sbliged to mit through an hour and a half of convention reports This
agreement was fortunate for it meant that we were to have the appor-
twuansity offreshtalling our story immediately after dinner when the audience
xhibit E
xhibit
Mr. Bosschenstein
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Approximately 75 persons attended the A.I.H.A.
included plant physicians industrial
meeting The
insurance company alain
muurses safety engineers engineers
agents personnal men from the St. Louis
1501. Seated at the head table were Dr.
Ames Mr. Thiemann and
Campbell Mr. Regers Mr.
;
Miss Agnes Rabbit pronounced RATult)
who is secretory of the section
t
She is an industrial mirse at
Anheuser In the audiance also were
Kr Hillman Actos safety engineer ' Mr. Young Astra clain agent Dr. Theodors Hanser or Hanser Anheuser-
Busch plant physician Ray M. Seeker Anheuser personnel
and anfety director
Following the dinner Mr. Thiemann turned the
who covered
approximately the same points
meeting over to Mr. Ames
representatives during the afternoon
covered with the union
He
the
audience
was
technically
minded
and
recognised we discussed
however
that
report in grester detail Mr. Staelin
the Gardner
ment progress report Just
read the latest inhalation
received from Dr. Dardner Dr. Campbell
in discussed the health record at the Newark
discussed quality control of the batch and
plant Mr. Rogers
glas materials
made the point that Fiber-
which
are a highly refined form of rock and alag wools with
industry has been familiar for fifty years Mr. Scott
of the psychological handicap which eur
spoke
products may have because they
Mr.
are known to be glass and called upon Anse to read the telegram pointing out the fact that the Ohio Industrial Commission has
us a rating lower than that enjoyed by other
given
industries
During the question period Mr. Bartley asked company representatives on their rating and
glass wool Mr. Hillman the letne man
for comments by insurance
experiance on workers handling , saying that Fiber-
Cc
as a ratrae te as for asbestos he said and spea he wkasispenakigng \___
Corning bottle mammfacturer he said his remarks applied alse was speaking (
EES SLR
eae te, all,
Mr. Boeschenstain Boeschenstain
union was to have meeting my 20 bust Pensylvani He told Mr. Anse that the Members of the audience were invited to
aseting to see our display
f the Gardner
come to 434 fallowing the
Mr. Bartley same and asked for a
report dated May 1936 as well as
sopy
the Pennsylvania Bulletin No. 58. Mr. Staelin had 7.4.2.1 and
with a co of Dr. Gardner's Interia
supplied kin
report of May 16 1941
that they would take no action without his a
though
he
said
he was
convinced
as
a
recommendation result of
Al-
that there is no health hasard in
our presentation
handling handling Fiberglas be said be
would tion This was an obvious saver He asserted
be a decision by the local at the
that there
June 3 and although he did not following meeting scheduled f^,r
that the decision will be favorabcloemmitto hFiibmesregllfasbe intimated strongly
hibit p
assistant general manger of the Anheuser
by one of the Corning men to have asked plant who was reported
would permit use of Fiberglas at
Dr. Hanser whether he
satisfied Dr. Hanser is reportedAn tohheavuesreeprlipeldant I am completely
Mr. Seeker also came up as did the following
Dibit
St. Louis Health Division
59 Municipal Courts Building St. Louis
Mr. Smaker's presence gave Er Lass
hima
letter
which
had
been
an exportunity to
handetdo .
discus
with
was written by
as at timer The letter
3. B. Herrall nami
The
Carey
Salt
manager at operations
Company Butshinson Kansas
Hr Horrell is a member of the
State of Kansas
National Defense Commission for the
en the difficulties difficultiHeis suln ettte erre asdkeidnkrthe Soaker how Sooker was progressing
use of Fiberglas at abuser Busch Busch
Mr. Boeschenstein
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May 23 1941
and whether a satisfactory solution had been found to the problam It so happens Mr. Horrell's letter continued that on a resent inspection trip for the U. S. Labor Department he visited a company t ag Fiberglas to insulate trailers being manufactured for the
K_ Department The reference apparently was to Truehauf in Kansas City He said he had been told that two man ware in the hospital
due to an infection caused after working with spun glass insuletion insuletion
He said be had been told that no solution had been found and that the
only thing they could think of whs rotate the employees The letter
asid he had written kr Guilbert but had had no definite answer
and he was suggesting that Guilbert take up the matter in Washington and see if some other material could be substituted for Fibergles
This in turn the letter added would be of great service to maZI en
facturers using this material on Government contracts The letter
said also that he was writing Hube Forney to see whether be had any data and it promised to send along to Seeker any further information
ne
Mr. Seeker told Kr Ames that Hube Forney is
R. L. Ferney
.
Director Industrial Division
National Safety Council
20 North Facker Drive
Chicago Illinois
and that ir Guilbert ia
xhibit P
Harry Gilbert spelling not certain
The Pullman Company
Chiego Chiego
Gilbert Secker added is a dollar man in the National Defense mission's program for the Conservation of Nampower in Industry and is in charge of the state region embracing Kansas
In Chicago Tusaday morning May 20 Mr. Ames informed Mr. Kimmerman of this situation Mr. Zimerman suggested that it was better to approsch Mr. Quilbert through Gustin but with Mr. Rimmerman's approval Hr Amma visited Mr. Ferney who called into the conference
Nr G. E. Jarm
National Safety Council
Chicago Chicago
.
Mr. Ames did not mention the Horrall letter introducing himself by mentioning his meeting in St. Louis the night before with Er Seeker That was so Mr. Farney said because the National Safety Council
2 ome ee
Weer tares
MMibitiMbibiit t S zhibit T
Mr. Bo schenstein
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recently had received many inquiries about the health aspects of F rglas He pointed out two on his deski one from Mr. Horrell of
Carey Salt obviously a duplicite duplicite of the letter sent to Mr. Seeker which Mr. Ames had seen in St. Louis and one from Dr. Kazlitt spelling uncertain plant physician of Vestinghouse in Best Fittsburgh The Testinghouse letter had samples of tapes and braided sleeving
attached end Forney indicated that the inquiry was about derma-
titis
ine conference lasted an hour end three quarters Both Wr Forney and Mr. Burns maintained a constant interest in the subject and a thorough presentation was made Three results may some from this moeting
1 kr Forney indicated that he may relay to us copies
of the im uiries received so that we may suggest replies to appear in the Council's monthly publication
2
The editor of the Council's publiertion will be ,
interested in obtaining a popularised account of
Dr. Gardner's findings to appear this autumn after he
has published his report in one of the medical
;
journals journals .
3 Suggestion was made that we participate in the Safety Council's National convention this October by taking a booth where we can display our products and emphasise health aspects for the benefit of personnel men and safety engineers who come to the convention
^ proposal already has been reseived from the National National
Safety Council on this subject
It is not unlthi at k we me ay l be ay ble to engi a pn lace e se o tr he
Convention program for a discussion of the subject
Mr. Mes then returned to Toledo Tuesday evening with Mr. Beatt