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FILE NAME: Colonial Sugar Refinery (CSR)
DATE: 1949 DOC#: CSR013
DOCUMENT DESCRIPTION: Legal - Arbitration Proceedings, Australian Workers Union vs Australian Blue Asbestos Ltd
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IN TOE COURT OF ARBITRATION
OR WESTERN AUSTRALIA---
NOS. 4 1 /4 8 ,
1 2 '4 9 , 22/49.
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AUSTRALIAN WORKERS UNION,WE3TRALlAi
FANCH, INDUSTRIAL UNION OF WORKERS CuATAL DISTRICT COMMITTEE, AMALGAMATED ENGINEFRINC UNION, ASSOCIATION OF ROBEERS, and o t h e r s .
A pplicante, - and AUSTRALIAN BLUE ASBESTOS LIMITED.
R esp o n d en ts.
RIFERISCE OF INDUSTRAL DISPUTE.
THURSDAY . 2ND JUNE. 1949.
BEFORE: JACKSON J .( P r e s i d e n t ) E.MCKENNA, Esq. T .G.DAVIES, E sq.
MR. C .T . OLIVER: a p p e a re d on b e h a lf o f th e A .l.U . C a r p e n te r s , 4 P a in te rs Unions.
MR. H . SIMON8: a p p e a re d on b e h a l f o f th e A.E.U . MR. S . V. CROSS: a p p e a re d on b b h a lf o f th e R espondent Coy.
THE PRESIDENT: T h ere i s no a p p e a ra n c e f o r th e C a r p e n te r s , J o i n e r s and P a in te rs.
MR. OLIVER! I h av e no w a r r a n t to ap p e ar f o r the, b u t Mr. Hendley asked ae l a s t n ig h t i f I would take care of h is i n te r e s t s .
THE PRESIDENT: What a b o u t the p a ln te r B t
MR. OLIVER: I u n d e r s ta n d i t i s a j o i n t aw ard which w i l l c o v e r
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c o n ta c t re p re s e n ta tiv e s o f b o th u n io n s, b u t w ithout success so f a r aa th is m orning's proceedings a re concerned.
UR. OLIVER. I do n o t th in k I t would be p o s s ib le to r a i s e them ae I understand one is in K a lg o o rlle and the o th er in Frem antle. F ra n k ly I do n o t t h i n k , a f t e r h a v in g a d i s c u s s i o n w ith Mr. C ross
and U r. 0111 y esterd ay a fte rn o o n , th a t U r. r enley has anything to worry ab o u t.
UR. CROSS: I oan con f in * t h a t U r. v en le y s a i d t h a t he was a c t i n g f o r Ut . W hite, and th en he a s k e d U r. O liv e r to m at fo r b o th Unions a t the C onference y e ste rd a y .
THE PRESIDE!! Very w e l l .
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UR. CROSS! Z h av e p l e a s u r e In h a n d in g In th r e e c o p ie s o f each
o f th e a o h e d u le e , D o s. 41/ 48, 12/49 and 22/ 49.
THE PRESIDENT! T here I s no cone o i l da t i on T
UR. CROSS. No, in t h i s c a s e , they w i l l a l l be s e p a r a t e . I
w ould a l s o l i k e to s u g g e s t an a l t e r a t i o n to c la u s e 43 - re s e rv e d
a a t t e r s - in r e f e r e n c s No. 41 M 8 - th a t la th e A.w.U. R eference.
S u b -c la u s e (b) say a t " C la u s e 5 ** D i s t r i c t a llo w a n c e F ollo w in g o u r d l s o u s s lo n y e s t e r d a y , we w ould a sk t h a t t h a t be amended to
r e a d " C la u se 4 - s u b c la u s e ( 6) - and c la u s e 5" That I s re g a rd in g
d i s t r i c t allo w an c es. In t h i s c a se the Union want the m atter
o f the percentage of the D is tr ic t allow ance fo r ju n io rs argued. A s im ila r aaendaent, I th in k has been aade to each of the other re fe re n c e s.
THE PRESIDENT! By th e way, in t h i s c a s e do you w ish to p u t In any re fe re n c e to c o n s e q u e n tia l amendments!
UR. CROSS) S o. We h av e c o v e re d a l l th e c o n s e q u e n tia l aw endaenta h e re . In re fere n ce 12/49, i t should read "Clause 4 - subclause (c)
and c la u s e 5 " ; and In r e f e r e n c e 22/49 I t sh o u ld re a d "C lause 5 ( 0) an d c la u s e 6" - D i s t r i c t A llo w n n c e s".
THE PRESIDENT! T here l e j u s t one q u e s tio n on page 7 o f re fe re n c e
N o .41/ 48. T here l a a s t r i p p a s te d o n .
UR. CROSS! I t was a ty p in g m is ta k e . P a r t o f the annual le a v e clauae aaa om itted.
THE PRESIDE!T: I mas w o n d e rin g , b e c a u s e on t h a t page you have
16 (a ) an d (b ) and 18 (a ) and ( b )
UR. CROSS! T hat l a p a r t o f 1 6 .
UR. OLIVER! With y o u rp e ra lB B lo n I would j u s t l i k e to run through the sc h e d u le and t e l l you w hat we have a g re e d to and what we c o n s id e r we sh ould d ls o u s s a .t a fu tu r e d a t e .
THE PRESIDENT: lo u mean a s i m i l a r ty p e o f p r o t e s t as you made in the l a s t case?
V.R. OLIVER: There l a very l i t t l e p r o t e s t In t h i s , in f a c t no p r o t e s t a t a l l . We have a r r i v e d a t s u b s t a n t i a l agreem ent in t h i s m a t t e r , b u t I am in c lu d e d to th in k t h a t > o u t s u g g e s tio n t h a t th e r e should be som ething, so-.t w ords In c la u se 43 - Reserved m atters -
' T hat any c o n se q u e n tia l amendments" i s a good one, because th ere
a re s e v e ra l m a tte rs c o n tin g e n t upon the 5 day week, in t> ls
sc h e d u le a ls o . *e d is c u s s e d i t a l l y e s te rd a y , and th ere nr* s e v e ra l
m atters th at follow .
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I have no o b j e c t i o n , b u t I 'annot r e c a l l any a t a l l .
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THE PRESIDES!: S upposing we Bake I t re a d T e fo llo w in g r a t t e r s a r e re s e rv e d f o r f u r t h e r c o n s i d e r a t i o n by th e C o u rt w ith any c o n se q u e n tia l am endm ents".
MR. OLIVERt We a g re e w ith o la u s e No. 1 - Scope
lou w ill
n o tlo e t h a t the word g lu e * h as been In clu d ed b e fo re "asbestos*
to d e f in e the type o f a s b e s to s m ining he sch ed u le r e f e r s to .
Area i s agreed to , and a l l the occupations are agreed to w ith th e e i c e p t lo n o f o c c u p a tio n s N o.26 - r i g g e r s and s p l i c e r s ;
27 . r i g g e r s and s p l i c e r s ' a s s i s t a n t s ; 29 - tra d e s m e n 's la b o u r e r s ; 36 - b l a c k s m i t h s s t r i k e r ; 44 - b ru s h a n d a ; and 45 - brushhands
u s in g s p ra y . With re g a rd to th e se o ccu p atio n s I t i s agreed th a t
we w i l l a rg u e them a t 6ome f u t u r e d a te In t vl s C o u rt. The q u e s tio n of an a sb e sto s bonus, is a ls o In d isp u te In su b -clau se (d) and sub-clause (e) in olause 3 o f the c la ln .
Ju n io r workers Is agreed to w ith the exception of th is q u estio n of percentage of d i s t r i c t allow ance fo r a ju n io r. This
d i s t r i c t allowance - clau se 5 - I s a n a tte r re ferred fo r fu rth e r c o n sid e ra tio n .
We can a g r e e to e v e r y t h i n g In th e h o u rs c l a u s e , w ith
th e e x o e p tlo n o f su'o-oAAuse ( 0) - l i n e 3 , th e words a f te r* ,
" p ro v id e d " and we w a n t to h a v e t h a t m u tte r re s e rv e d f o r f u r t h e r d is c u s s io n . \o u w ill fin d in th e overtim e cla u se fsu b -c la u n e b)
In th e f i r s t l i n e " e x c e p t a s p ro v id e d in s u b -c la u s e (0)
of clause 6".
TPE P R E S ID E !: T hat I s c o n s e q u e n t i a l upon o u r d e c is io n u n d er t h a t .
MR. OLIVER! T hat i s t r u e . 8unda> and h o lid a y work I s agreed to ; o la u s e s 6 and 9 i s ag reed to . 8 h l f t work i s agreed to ; p iecew o rk ers Is agreed to . With re g -rd to clau se IP, tra n s p o rt p a ra .(a ) la reserved fo r co n sid eratio n . P ara.(b) Is agreed to. Absenoe through sic k n e ss - c la u s e 13 - i s agreed to . D ust allowance
l a a g r e e d to . H o lid a y s - c l a u s e 15 - I s re s e rv e d f o r f u r t h e r
c o n s id e ra tio n .
lo w , In the m a tte r o f a n n u a l le a v e we ag re e , to e v e ry th in g w ith th e exoeptlon o f the l a t t e r p a r t o f (b) which In co n se q u en tial
o f c o u r s e , on th e h o u rs o l a u s e .
IRE P R E S ID E !: In o t h e r w ords i f w e .a g re e w ith h a t you w i l l
b e s u b m ittin g to u s in t h a t r e s p e c t , t h a t l a s t p ro v is o w i l l come
ou t t
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MR. OLIVER! I w o n 't b e t h e r e . Wet p la c e s l a ag reed to ; s p e c ia l ra te s is agreed to; p ro teo tlv e clo th in g Is agreed to ; casual
worker* i s agreed to ; and th is nored u ctlo n clau se is agreed to u n d e r c irc u m s ta n c e s o f t h i s p a r t i c u l a r aw ard, lo u may n o t be
aw are t h a t Mr. B ro a d h u ra t h a s a lr e a d y a g re e d some t i r e ago to pay th e s e m argins a s g iv en i n th e sc h e d u le wit*- the e x c ep tio n o f course of those In d is p u te , and of course the no-reduction c la u s e I s o cv lo u aly d e s ig n e d to m eet t h a t s i t u a t i o n . Re would n e t w a n t to re d u c e any o f th e r a t e s you may o r d e r , and m ost of th e r a t e s a r e a lre a d y a g re e d t o . However we ag reed to t h a t In t h a t p a r t i c u l a r c a s e , a lth o u g h we would n o t l i k e to a g re e to 1 1 in any o th e r s .
The mixed f u n c ti o n s c l a u s e i s a g re e d to ; re d u c tio n of hands I s agreed to ; a c c id e n t pay Is agreed to ; f u ll payment for a s h i f t i s agreed to ; resu m p tio n c f work a f t e r holiday Is agreed
0; u n d erg ro u n d w o rk ers i s a g r e e d to ; e x p lo s iv e s i s sg re e d to;
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f l r s t - a l d 1 ag reed to ; f r e e e a te r 1b ag reed to ; d rin k in g e a te r
le agreed to; ohange rooae la agreed to ; B leeping q u arters la
agreed to ; payment o f wages le agred to ; dT y -clo th in g p lan ts
and w ater Je ts la agreed to ; Ju n io r workers c e r tif ic a te le agreed
>o; e a p lo y a e n t I s a g re e d t o ; r e p r e s e n t a t i v e I n te r v ie w in g w o ria rs
i s a g re e d t o ; and ag ed and I n f ir m w o rk ers I s a g re e d o; the term
o f one year is agreed to, as I think m e reserv ed m tuters. That
lo a l l 1 have to say*
.
MR. 8YM0I8I I th in k a l l th e m a tte r s a r e s e t o u t in c la u s e 33 o f our agreed sch ed u le. U r. O liv e r has oovered the p o in t In r e la tio n to p re fere n ce. I do n o t agree In the m atter of a l t e r a t i o n to th e a p p r e n t i c e s h i p r e g u l a t i o n s 37 ( ) and *d)
a s d e f in e d on th e l a ; - t p a g e .
TPI PRE9IDDITi Too w an t t o k e e p y o u r p o s i t i o n opened in th e same way a s . I n th e A u s t. Iro n and S t e e l c a se ?
MR. SIMONSi Ho. I t i s d i f f e r e n t h e r e . T h a t one was ag reed t o , b u t th is I s n o t agreed to .t a l l .
THE PRESIDENT: What l a th e p o s i t i o n !
MR. CROSS! U nder th e c irc u m s canoes, I do n o t m ind. I a s p re p are d to a r g u e I t b e c a u se I th in k I t w i l l t e a u to m a tic . Mr. Symons o b je c tio n ana te a a s , however I aw p rep ared to a rg u e i t .
THE PRESIDENT: The mere f a c t t h a t i t amazes you lXr. C ro ss, has n o t h in g to do w ith I t . We nad b e t t e r I n c lu d e t h a t a s m e o f the r e s e r v e m a tte r s under award 1 2 /4 9 -- new s u b -c lo u s e ( f ) Clause 33 regu latio n 37 (o) (d) - A pprentlcesuip re g u la tio n s. Is there any o th e r p o in t Mr. Symons?
UR. SYMONS; T h at i s a l l .
THE PRESIDENT: lo w , Mr. O l i v e r , u s f a r ae y o u e r e ware s r e th e r e tiny o t h e r q u e r le e In r e g r d to 22/49 C a r p e n te r s snd P a in te r s ?
MR. OLIVER; Mr. H en ley h ae a p r o t e s t t o - make a b o u t b la t o o l allovEnc
THE PRESID2RT; T h at la n o t one o f t h e r e s e r v e d m a tters? What i s
th e p o sitio n thsre?
MR. CPOSSj p reju d ice.
Mr. H#nley w ants the r i g h t to argue I t next year without .
THE PRESIDENT: He 1 m aking a p r o t e s t a b o u t th e to o l-a llo w a n c e q u estio n - to keep I t open u n til next year?
MR. CROSS; T hat l e s o .
THE PRESIDENT; A p e rt fro m t h e t , i s t h e r e any o t h e r c o r r e c t t h a t M r. HAnley w ants t o make?
UR. OLIVER: Mr. H enley a p p e a rs t o b e q u i t e happy au o u t i t .
Uj rv'OSR I l u s t want t o esv as i n th e YaPt c a a e , B a n y ^ c la u e e sto 'w h lc h we a ls o o b je c t , but
so 1 1 i s no u se ay go in g * In to d e t a i l s .
taat there ^RVe got*
oh ck S I S S ' n o r ^ f n S V r ^ S l t r l l U ^ a i . e any o b j e c t i o n on b e h a l f
? ,* .{ i S f i e ^ a v e 1J i v U r i S V S t V S e i i b i i g i '^ o u t any o b j. t l o i e t a l l w niohe h f d ei S n o t even ask f o r . They n ,v e been in c lu d e ;
in tn e achedule becuuce ne u s u a lly ska fo r them.
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Th* lasu e* w i l l t e ty p e d today and copia* ta n t t o th e u n io n s a* e a rly as p o s s ib le ready f o r th e hearin g tom orrow. I w ill also
send copies to th e Court so th a t.th e Court w ill he ab le to see c le a r ly what i s r e a lly in d is p u te b e fo re th e h eerin p tomorrow.
TH P3Z3IDQT: Mr. Symons, t h i s was th e c rs e where th in k you w ere i n some t e c h n i c a l t r o u b l e b e c a u se o f en e x i s t i n g a^-.rd w ith
s th re e year term l
UR. 8YM0H8;
TH PR3X0rBT: T h a t d i f f i c u l t y has now b ee n g o t o v e r ; t h a t 1 I ta k a i t the em ployers have decided not to ra is e th a t d if f ic u lty .
UR. 3YUPW3* 1 ta k e i t t o be ao by t h e i r a c t i o n i n coming b e f o r e th e Court t h i s morning and subm itting a sohadula to th e C ourt.
UR CR033: I h av e had no i n a t r u o t i o n a t o r a i s e any o b j e c t i o n , and I presum e t h a t U r. Symons p o s i t io n w i l l be q u ite c le a r now.
TH PRilDINTj a f a r as r e f e r e n c e 22/49 i co n cern ed ta n t i s a very recen tly f ile d re fere n o e, w ith in th e le s t week.
UR CROSSj T e s , i t i s f i l e d on th e 31/5/49
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answ er on th e 1 s t Ju n e fo rm a lly answ ering. Z w i l l apply tomorrow
H n d the enw es in a l l th re e m atters so th a t c e rta in m atters
e c * a g re e d upon w i l l be shown i n th e new i s s u e s .
TH P irsiOtNT* F o r m y s e lf and 1 am s u re X sp e fk f o r my . e llo w S b T o o t t h i S an in s ta n c e lik e t h i s -b o u ld be pc.euea
by w ith o u t some p ro p e r r e fe re n o e b ein g mads. h e r e mas t h a t t h s A.W.U. r e p r e s e n t a t i v e , Mt . O l i v e r , hsa a
r e f e r e n c e pending f o r some tim e w hich was due f o r
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o th e r unions concerned had no pending re fe re n c e s.
The A..T w ished c o n s id e ra tio n to be g iv e n to an
P.wKTd f o r i t s e l f a t* t h e same tim e a s t h e A.W.. * a u" ' j ^*11
te c h n ic a lly i t could n o t do so snu i t could n o t oe be*e
.
t o S htd i t n o t been th a t th e employer in th is case has obviously
a iv e d the d i s a b i l it y u n d sr whioh th a t union
f 1
a s t h e p a i n t e r s an d c a r p e n t e r s axe c o n o e rn e d , th e y Came v e ry
l!x e in to th e p ic tu r e , having f ile d th e ir referen ce only im si
l a s t Tuesday, h ic h in th e norm al c o u re e o fe v e n t* have g iven them a b earin g fo r sev e ral E o n tts. But i n t a e ir ca se,
a l a o , g i t a p p e a rs t h a t s p e c i a l e f f o r t s w ere " & de.* * * $ * * ! * " i t s re p re se n ta tiv e s to g et a l l m atters hecrd a t th e suae
tim e *s the A .I.O . re fe re n c e .
I t h i n k t h a t M r. Sym oni, Mt. H enley and H r. 1 * . should ap preciate the fa c t th a t th is step haB **" r S policy*
r is a 3 S
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to k e n jy the u n io n s c o n c ern e d .
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n a o r i t 3nob j o t s . 1949.
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MH.OLXVXAl Hew S ir 2 again want to say that W believe
the foundations are being la id a t Wittenoom Gorge fo r a ast snd yery wealthy In d u stry. 1 would euggeet, and I think Mr. Broadhurst would grow, that most o* the wort th a t has been oarrlsd o u t a t wittenooni Oorgs hai been
dons In the nature o f an experim ent.
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made te tr e a t asbestos in W.A., i f not the whole o f A u stra lia .
There Is a eery r e a l attem pt te At tltten o o e Odrre, not
o n ly to e x tra ct the asbeetoe from theroek, but s o grade i t
and market I t in th e proper form. Bren the nli^ng operation,
a s you w ill see on an in sp e ctio n o f not only yqttenoom Jorge
but t he other Gorge, hay been in the nature f an experiment
though you w ill see a wary modern mine eet up tlttenoom
Gorge te ic h has been introduced in e ery recent drear -e probably
the la e t 2 year.
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The production i t e e l f has bssn on a yery frnall su^ls. low would not sxpeet i t on i t s present eoalc to?be ^ ro flteb le . I d on 't thin*, the present operator expect i t te bej bat Z understand i t is the in te n tio n o f the present operators to in crease the production enormously, increase the oapaol^y o f the .lent and the output o f the mine. And we sugges . that when th at 1 done p r o fit w il l aoorue. Ilf f o t, ee b e l l ere th a t with Mr. Broadhuret In oharge o f the operations,
th ey i l l be produoing aebeetos a t a prloe o f between 1}o
and 40 a ton .
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s earn only Inform the Courts on the experience o f the market In the p a ct a s to te a t asbestos i s north b u t^ t p i have to keep in mind th a t the eyetem market .ng asbestos In A u stralia has not bssn the system te d b y cJ.o r important asbestos produoing oountrios in the te rld . J belisTOa f i r . that grading has not bssn considered in ,-- tunt and probably for th a t reaSon a l o t o f the T .lv ^ o f the product h !s not been obtained but I do know that
dueed a t Bunnyery, t e i t e i e on ly a few nil ttg * tlttenoom
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HR.OLZTKRI I am not sure but i t sound lik e t ^ s to and i t l e a s asbestos d e p o sit not f a r from fittsm o te Gorge but perhaps Hr. Broadhurst oould t s l l us how to sp^ll I t .
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mw a m v ir i Yes. Hansocks work i t e x te n e iy e ly .* te t p*1" 1- . . i l l * w " # . ; >>" 1 "
b asis of 'ru n o f mine*. teat i s ths overall asbestos far
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Gorge?
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d o a lln g .
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MUQbXVSRl A dlatanoa o f 50 a il In th Borth-f 1 a
ar on* thro. Z think w *an a l l agr th at the w thod o f produotion a t Wlttonooa Oorg would b unooonotoleal. Z would c a r th a t to t r y and argua th ooonoaios o f th industry at th la tag would b perhapa, I f not f u t l l , thh werjr d i f f t a u l t . Z know th a t a t a la t r atag Hr. Croat i l . produe a at o f figur which w ill how a l l or o f lose but w a ro xpootlng th at S i r . Kowirr I want you to kp ln win* That Z haw to ld you th l morning about th p otan ti liti o f t h i s lv ta n a dopoa it o f aboto which is rated i* o f tho largo in th r i d . to think th a t th inortatd production
and than I oay ineraod produotion I noan o*thing
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l t 1 * t a t i * t l * a l l y * ta t* d , thmt A u stra lia 1 not produdng b
S e r M n t. o t l t * ra q u lra a a n t* . Y*t you har# tha* I bbsm*
*pe*lt* a t th* BanersUy Range*.
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1 w i l l pro due# flg u re e to th* Court baaad on s t a t l* -
t l o a l lnfonaatlon hloh w i l l in d io a t* th a t w* har* lnported
1^,000,000 worth o t asbestos ln tti* la a t * f r * ig h t y*ara.
At th* pra*nt tin* X an inforued bj a ponalbl* o ffic e r o f th* Housing Ooauisslon that l t 1* or o t th* fa*tor* holding op 1h*lr building program*--th* : k o t asbestos-- and in fa et they ar* r*lying on th* at*lor rtAoru o t th*lr suppli** aoaing fron I ta ly , io you w ill i* th*r 1 an lna*na* surk*t In Australia for aab*ato*.
low X propoa* to d*al with son* o f th* *1story of asbestos production In A ustralia, to t* U you o f I ts use* and to max* son* ooaparlaon with th is d*poslt a f wittaar-ui gorge and th* rest o f th* available seuroos o f Asbestos in A ustralia. X think w* an eonvlno* th* Court that Vlttw son Corg* la probably tha only aouroo o f aab*stos supply worthy o f oonaidoratlon. I t appears ao to u s, aftor our xaninatlon,
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adnlng. I ts offaots on ih* workore, for ono thing, and Than
X ro to r to that X man tholr haalth genarally. X w ill not
worry tho Court a t thi* stag* with wnat X would;o a ll if.*
h istory o f tho d lo a b llttlo s o f th* worker* In th* amtn* in
dustry generally, but X suggest th* h istory o f th*
ns,
aaa* la available to you, and n considerable aaeunt o f rtat-
lo tlo a l information was put In on hint oooaoionjwhich wtuld
bo applicable to conditions a t Vlttsnoon Oorgo.|
1 yMBXB9BiTi You man tho la a t pldn&nlng awird t
KR OLTYSI Xas. those tabla* X har* her* w ill* give you
aoaio Idea of tha use* to which asbesto* 1* being put at
proaont and, sa I haw* told you, Its uses ar* opntlnually
lnoronslng. X w ill put a mpy o f th is in,
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Xbu w lll by i* tabla hoadod Consxsfrtion o f AobootM ln Australia by Urna* that aabeatos ip usad f*ri
Asbestos oomnt produots, bulldlng atera l, pipo, oto. lUboard, b ollor lagglng, Insula ti on n torlal, brako lin lnga, p l stic aaphalt, aobootod oaaont, o to ., ropo yam , gaskats, asbestos *lotm ng,*t*.
the tabla lo* glv** th* p*rontag* o t lt us*d, and 1 agaln wsnt to oujhaoloo that lto uses aro oontlnuall^ ea thc la -
n phBBXOBiTi Apparently th is ls also an xtTset froc that
p a sjh le t.
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a r l.H . ludhrook.
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itatement showing sonparisons f A u stra lia n production o f C aids Asbestos by typos.
the f i r s t pags o f th s ta b ls g i r t s you the A ustralian . produotlon s f oruds asbsstos by types during *ha period
1918- 1935, and from 1936-1944. I t also g iv e s you ths
comparative T alus parton o f typas o f asbsstos. produoad.
fh t remarkable part about th is doouaeni i s ths ln orsast In ths production o f O ra p h llltss, a t against ths
fad in g o r reducing production o f what i s known as Chryso-
t l l s - that Is whitt asbsstos.
TBS Pfti5lD*XTl And C r o s id o llts i s th s blue asbestos?
W.OUVCRl Too. Tou w ill saw what is rwferrod to at
Other Asqphlboll has nsrsr played a big part lh asbestos
jrodvetien.
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t u t is important la th is dlsoueslon is it h a foot
th a t during 1918-1935
* t 93? ton* f t C fe rysttlls
produced a g a in st 10y tons o f C ro o ld o iito , whl}e In the a
period 1930-1944 the production o f g r a s ld r t llw was reduced
to 1.341 ton e, and the production o f C reo id dllt# haf
In e rta sod to 1,629 to n e.
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Another Important factor is ths fact that ths Vulue p er ton o f C rosU ollte had inert a tad from approx. to 416 par ten which i s e<fual, or almost equal, *n th e prlao o f O bryoetile. fho next table is Compiled with th s Idea o f g i n * you, * lr , sows comparison ioi tha talus o f asbestos production lnusstsrn A ustralia. J
Tern, w ill se ir that production in h.8^Waist during the years IMO to 1944 cat approx. 3,546 tond. Xn f* r in g the period 1899 te 1944 I t mas 541 toga. fouth Aus tr a lia 1915 to 1944. 75* tone and .A ustralia during 1' period 1908 to 1944 i t mas 3603 ton s. tou h i l l no-*aterago/ ths /Taluo o f th is asbestos oror those period wms.Zn ' approx. 424 a ton, Taasaaia 118/10/- a ton, fouth Australia 114 a ton andwestern Australia approx. 3$ ai ton . the lateretin* part of the table o f our iefcttoe produotlon o f Crooldollto with which ww are dealing. !
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Oroeldolita haa nly beaaprofiuoed in S a ith Australia and
Wastsrn Australia and a ll so ara attewptlng to oowpara ls
tha production o f Crooidollt# 1 tJh Australia and *'x
Xn South Australia oTor thaporlod 1915 to l944 approx. 682
tona wtrs produosd &t a walus of 9(99 with an ftyyr^ * 0, 7
alus of 4 /1 0 /- a ton. Zn W.A. durili
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to 1944 * produoad 1054 'oM wlth ax **|uo o f
jiTing
an ararago Talut par ton of 43/10/-. X thinx 1* *
that la a Tory in tero stin g `tablo booausa jOy**
iaportaaos o f aaboatoo produat^n. p a r tlo in ^ y Oroeldoli'*
oonaams tha rortion 't tha OtaV wito phieh w* ara
dOallng.
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MX.tLXVSXj | o u li say th a t I t lr>dleate to* q u a lity o f too
proto to
fax PhSOXMNT) X mo ontoring hotoor i t a because i t
oa predated la tbo ea rlier years and 1 possibly not of oo auto tola thou*
WUOUYW) P ossibly, hut to production dea not appeur to Juro hOOftlMroasoA roa in ron* years and Z think i t aaat ho a poorer type o f Creoidolite*
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to se t think tha f l euros oro quito eorrest. Z tuvo sines
eheoked oa thtoo to 3 Z took then froo in to n a tio n given by
the Popt o f ftapfdy and froa tn is booklet X find oa a
careful ahato o f asbestos produos d in too Hanaersley JUnge,
th a t I t to to mot xaedly agree ith th is ta b le . Ko*ver,
X hava prepared a ta b la o f a l l tha recorded produotloa o f
C ruatieiita l a w.d* and till t is tab le i l l giro yo >eoaa
infers*tic a tor, X og|<t tto t th oorrect tubio is too
ato X t o l l no hand to you 1
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d ta tto tn t shoeing rooordod production Of fetoidolito la V.A.
X thinh d ir tha table ith unlto are no dealing
covers the tool# o f hat is k;n>n as tha;roduotion o f
Crooidalite la the B aw erslsy Ranges. That la th only
souroo of bloc adboeteo hoing orkod la o.A. although tnara
aay bo ooto in other parts* Xou t o ll 000 hoc production
has laoroaood over those yearn froo ap;rex. 5 tons ia 1933
to f f l teas la 1945 althoto> production has sines decreased
u t i l l x l f t l i t as 607 tons.
X tolmk toal i s iaportunt fo r our ,urpose la ths faot that ,,hilo tho valu por ton *s X40 i s 1943, i* 194& i t cao <4ia X toggBto Xir th at tn tatole dota indcate th a t tho voleo o f tho product to s realnd dreaeonably statole, toto lo e t o ll note that tho averog valu perton evsr a perlod o f IX jroars has bes* 443 esto a feo ahiilings
TXK mBXPttTl u ! do you Sun by valu ln that ubie Pe jtu sean tho parios ebtolaed f.O .l. rros^ntle, er toatt
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TU PM8XKXTI X M tioe tto t y ur a la is ln regard to tos asbestos toaos lo hesed oa eurreat prioo F.o.B. rreaanti
KX.OLXVXRl IOS I t o l i s v t t o t lo nr* t o r f ig u r a s a re
Ultaa fho prlss f .e .b . freaantlo In ht tout is
as i t is quoted la th is booklet.
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t o u htT* boon produoad, th/ auat Kivi b u sp irita* 7 , vaknaan lo the Mino* Dapartaant. Ih*/ lo ia tal* 1* ti&a #bolo rooordod produolion o f blu u b u t o i in vastar Aus tr a lia .
S X tolnX i t Might ba o f vala 10 feo Court i f I i* o*m* information oa th* laportatlon o f arud* a*b**t** A ustrali ad th* aaount* o f u b a to o -ttM la , aruAa sbasto ad *b**tos gooda--ohloh aro apartad trom Aus tr a li . Za riaw o f tho quanti t j o f sobostos vo havo 1/1g m i t la thl* Stata, Z uggast l t 1 a astonishing
it /.
KIWT. HIBIT 0. 4.
Tabi* shoving Australi laport* Ad xport* o f ruda sbasto* sud asbastos p o to far 1
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by *suapandai* ba nsana fea t instead o f keeping ** 08 fle e r to keep fees up ae fea t they 111 be sept elean. Aa I ata ts i , fear* should be no need fo' f e ls alne. i t should b# parfeot, and I think Mr Broadhuret d l l asa feat l t is parfaet.
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Mi fiWM Xha, a f aourso, n i aat la ba aiautaa.
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a barafora raa aur oaaa ttr s tly aa ia a b llity lo pay and saaondly bai ba aaployaaa 111 noi ba eubjaot lo aay lajuatioa by ba auapaaaloa o f basa margina baaauao, aa va bara ahown la aur raturno yaatarday, bay ara raaetrtng ora ov ban bair aoradaa working In otbar plaoaa in Xalgoorli abara aow, aadar ba Industriai allowaaoa,reatilag aubstantiallj aara tbaa bair aoaradaa."
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sxpootod th* quisaloni of shat os lookod sn as a stand* Barg,
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Bst glvoa lsd do to tho prsuBptlon th at tbs industry allomaoi
Bust hays oovsrod tho oonsldoration o f tho slalB
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MJUOLXVSfti I t i s gsnoral to tho Engineering ind try in this Stats and ths BStropolltan awards for th# a*w i trads a l l had thoir bsb outs i do tho 8outh-*o*t land Sinaloa fhsro h* aovor boon any ouostlos sn thoso sards
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TXE PREttIDEMTl a* that n uaenda*nt of au sittin g a*ord or a ass asardt
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MJUIro>t x* toe A*.U. * party to th a t a**rd?
MR.OUYKftl The A .i.U . put to * for e *** ** ^ ,,
qthweiUtooratof uthiet tmi ^orrglntoor**23*rPdda1nuth*.oi7uli19Qf4t8v.# fbo refersnoo fiTs ^
2? o f 1947, and it 1 ootneen too inalgaaatcd S ^ M o riB f
liaioa oa4 Australian Iron ond Stool* Xou 111 ooo In thlo o-
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tho occupations * have indloputo oro paid atoording
to tho schsdul of rate *o oro claiming.
there is o pooullor story attuano4 to th lo . In too a*
o f Australian Iron and stool, ro port* In too
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to tho undertaking ot
S J ,* Io iIrid USn4o r ^ o ^ *
t S I 5* 3 Snlmed too rato, of pay. and I t has boon rood that thooo occupations bo tr*Mfrrod Into our
! t o t J m n g yiu the rates, (txtraot hondod to Bosch).
V I think VO 111 leave tho natter o f narglns at th a t. o
i l l ondoaiour to give you o il tho inforn.tion * ^an on to
hi tory of goldmlning allowanoe, or ay other
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progress.
on th . ... o n of . . u m o .
hao taken too point o f^ ^ "^ ^ fe n o d o r ^ that aoboatoo ohoold
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Jl\ i e n and a lo t of oonoidoratlon
s w - y t S s r a s ^ T S 'K i s . ^ r ias t , * * --
production at Uttonooa cshlaoiumldthshaat raeasotonoo oftf otooj p rbofitsa,
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OIE FASSZPOiTl Bo* did you arrive at your point of coaaancsmsnt
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IHS FESSIDEBTI Ho did you naoafct to asoertain toatt
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HR. OLIVER! Y ob. did
THJC pasaxoaiTi a*t p rofit ds* you reckon you ould giro tbs saplsysrt
HR. OLIVER) # had in Blod the Qussnsland ssthsd of fixing fed load bonus, ad thsy thought f t , a ft or allowing for orkiag
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THE PRJCSXDEMTl f t of hat!
HR. OUTER! o f tbs ovsrall.
HUE PRESIDENT! X*u bs*b f t o f tha gross Talus of produotloBt
HR. LXVK&I I f i t ooBt 1 B illion pounds to aork tbs Bins for tbs ysar, and tbs Bins Bads 2 B illio n pounds for tbs fanr, tbs 1 BllllSB pounds orbing coat ns dsdustsi. Tbs saplo/ar as thsh nllsvsd 7 i on tbs 1 m illion pounds and tbs s w t t s root a s dlTldsd up into tbs load bonus.
THE PRESIDENT) Tbs reaulning 93^ of tns ons allllOB pounds profit!
HR. OLXVKRi Yss, that i s bo Z follossd it*
TUS PRESIDENTI Of oourss, I t Just ooours to ns tbat tbsss
figures a*y r* ry e ll bo su lU bls at obs stags o f produstion
nod not at another sta g s. Z do not Ifioi rtsthsr th is Bins
i s yst in fu ll produotloa.
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HR. OUTERS Zt is M ( In f UL1 produstion at th is stags
IBS PRESIDENT) Ho doubt ibsn It Is In fu 1 produstion i t should bs nbla to produos a bigger quantity at a lassar sost psr ton, should I t noti
MR.OUVErl Tbatis bat S SDTlsagS.
THE FASTIDENTI And tbsn you oui4 bops, at tbat Stags, to soaa bnsb and as* for a biggsr bonus, but at tbs frasant tlBS sbsn I t lus not rsaebsd anything libs fu ll produstion you sonsldsr tbs basis you bars nsatlonsd is fa ir for a bonus payasat.
HR.OLIVERt ts sonsldsr tb. t 1 tbs basis on etoiob s ouId bs s a tltls d to clnla.
THE PRESIDENT) Has the oonpany nads any profit so farl
MR.OLXVER) I do not think so, but 1 think thsy havs spsnt a lo t of aottsy.
THE FAESIDENT) Do you think thsy ^.11 aaka a profit in tbs aszt 12 Booths?
HR.OLIVERI Hot in tie noxt 12 nontbs, but in tbs futurs bugs p ro fits.
THE PRESIDITI But on tn is quostion of toe tin t han t b s x ^ ' ars not Baking vrofits at a l l , i s i t your opinion that tbs i s toapaay should Wiv a bonus tbsn. on tha jrios o f a a b s e to s l
HR.OUVKKI fs think tns basis should now bs nslghod. I t aould psrbaps bs vari ad to our advantags in tbs futur of
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I OtfVJBU l t oould taom% to thi*l Xf you start lite bu ilt- ' a bausa ad fi U ln e i t with furai tur, you re M l bovina \ , profit on four wag ta t you aro lattatine i t la your house and famitura. X aaM, you veuld not bava auob lo ft ta pani, X agra# that this aoapaay 1 not taking profit oat /, o f Vlttaaooa barge tut lg_jaiXtle tbaa took lato tba nlaea. ij
1M PKKilWKTi haro la a diffrant belvean not king /
f r a n t a ad nt>t asking dltldoada.
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Ift OLXYXRi that la vhy va ara attar terj aatisflad with the p a n t that ve taka a half abara ef the profita btaauaa tu a a Juat # M k tbaa atout ad attar boy any pronta.
Vaa put rasai!** {bon not th cld nduatry Ueoanoa rie** m alie a prosperity aliavano t
m OLITSIU Xt ha baon rafarrad te aa a ll aorta of thinge, tut I don't think va hats ter praaunad i t vaa a profit Baaed on the proeparlty baaauae, after a ll, the galdalaing aUavanaa la paid in alalng lanate, vhethar In produatlaa ar eut af production.
W rkSBiDBiTi but did i t not originato In tinea af proapony and taaauaa af the proeparlty t
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Ml OLTVKRi X mink i t vaa baaauae of Pie lnoraaalng prit af fold, that 1 that It vaa basad an. Oeld had previously bean leaked upen aa tosething standard and than I t at a r ted ta gallop avay, and the verkara thougit they ooulA gat a hare af I t. that la hov President boyar basad the alloy* nao. X don't think i t vao attuali/ a proeparlty leadlag an ma indu try.
Mb MCXBULX ma bonus vaa fixed on tha atandard priaa a f geld.
ah oLXVXftt At tha Una, X think gpld oaa about d$.
m Chusa the standard priaa had been 4. 10a ., and han tha
baaua one fixed i t vaa 8.10a. The Court decided to fix i t
an anythlag above <4]Oi. a t a aartaia rata.
Mb bdvxxa bona ninaa vhioh vara aaall produaars and net proaparoiia had nevarPialas to pay i t , the aas aa tha larca nines vhieh oere r ela tiv e ly proaparpua.
big PMftluttt; Xt aaeaa that tha payaant o f tha geld in dustry Havanas m i parhapa a prsiudo to tha iapoaitlon o f the geld tax also at a Intar stage, on produatian only, they ora bath roughly on tha anno baala, are they not V
ifi OUVKJU Xa.
UK PASSIM** Xou vould not Ilka to an eabvataa tax. '
Mb OUYSEt The gold industry haa not been unduly taxed, thou# .It ha* had a lo t of tria l and tribulation.
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/ tSS FBKSlSUTi But suroly any bonu* should only too paid out f profits. ' Ml.OUYKRi Boot toonusoo paid in ib is oountry srs baaed on tha prloo of tho product. Xt has always boon contended toy tha other side that a bonus i s not fa ir . Xf they oould perhaps o ffer ua something Just at ttraetive, in a different fhra, o say too preparod to oonsidsr i t .
TUK t&SXDnTi They night offer you $0$ of the p ro fits.
MJl.OLIYtftl fnoy B ig h t. 1 think I said in ny opening reaerke t iu t X bus not e tte a p tin g to shoe that they have undo any p r o fits U S PAS&XBKXTl X any perhaps bo Juaplng s l i t t l e b it ahead, tout the point 1 an g e ttin g a t i s th .t in v le o f that o;*ning rsaarfcx that the ooapany had not been Halting any p r o fits X aa querying whether your union la right in asking for s bonus. Bhso no p r o fits ore bein g node. MR OLXYEKI lo o . tout so take the v ie (although 2 nay bo ooaplotoly srong) th a t t h i s ooapany i s layin g tha foundations s f aa l-.oustry. than th ey eat there, there * only the Oorgo. Tho aln ln g m l eh hod boeo done up to that stage boo s la o ly hors the a sb e sto s sa s exposed on tlis s U s o f the h i l l s . Xt had tosoB tosaohsd o f f end the asbestos taken a say. This ' soap,ay has gone in to i t in bigger m y. They hevs driven tunnels in to the nouatain and they are mining, th e plant o f oourss m *a they f i r s t oat there ua very erode, tout they or*
a t t h is atS developing m at i l l too in tho future a etaadajd p la n t. They have not been prepared to la s t e l any plant oth er ' than h . t eolsb they had there u n til thsy knee hoe i t as going to aorfc out.
Bo Bay they re laying tne foundations of mat suet bo an ! -- * industry, and * f e ll i t ill to a very oelthy aad ee at to share in eoae of the p rofits. UK PRkSIDaKT* Before hand or hsn they aoerueTAssunlag th^pp r o fits are a i l at tho moment, do you thlnh you should share in theat KR.OUTCR! X think tho foundation of a toonua should be la id 1 tfas a sard. lou nay think our request is too high. Xsu nay drop i t eonaiderably. u t FfuTiiXDEKTi It i l l largely dap and on ahat evidence the
Ben give aa to m at i t s profitable produetion is .
MfUOLTVohi 1 have nc doubt Mr. Croat w ill deal very ably with that.
MJUMC9<H11 But y:u say the bonus should be r a a e d on the
vers,: p rise per ton re c e iv e d . X think you sold tne **^**? had not aide any p r o f i t * . Going back to your Kxnlblt to .? and
the v a lu e per ton ahos th ere , the -.rice iw i -ever approached
X2S. Xt h^s always been considerably bore t h . t . The la s t Odd you quoted aa *4b per to n . On y'-ur e la la , eoold not the
Bn th a t ovary ploy* would be titled to cother J ^ i. pdF
vH.niivi:(n v ... MJUMsdmhitli And th* ooapany Is asking no profltel
hB.OLXVItfU That is righ t.
rn, UVXhj l i f e n 41 ad fr fe fcf a ar Xunah m u , ir, aaka w
%* aAmtout U pravlda roa wlth tha QtMti oonUUlaf fea
raarm u ta fea gal* laiaatry U n m fer 1934. fea S u itM
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pp.82> 24>, Z *on toniar fel U fea cM,
V t i l MiMMur i t later atas* to prenda | w lfe u
u t r M t Crea fea Quaaaalaad Qasatta la eetuMaUea 1 Iba
leed bernia a Ht.la* and fea aafead by hlofc 1 la glvi
niara, and lfe aaaa InferaMloa aa fea aafead a f tadoatnal
allaaanoaa la Hila aoaatniatlen aaard la Vaa^ara AuatraXia.
fe* rBMZSairi a lee Hia raferenae lo tha aaard far U U tanuaa la Hila u ta.
rn OUTVXJU Xaa, feat aaa be giran alaa. la faat, X fia I hora et a aepy af aur aaa award aerarla* fea l u indultar/, but fel la m extrae froa tha Oorernaent analta aenaeralnf Uta Xnglnedrlrera and ttranea'a Union ahah aa/ ha af aaaa .ala ta yen. Z aaa laudar be,34/48 fbr tha Inferantien af fea Cour.
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Produced in the matter! Asbestos Personal Irury Cass;.. A b ram Lead & copied to.......--
Richard F. Scruggs. .... .
UK)K KCaUMPCOH AT 2*15 T A .
M1UOUVRR) * M n dealing wiVi the question o f asbestos
bantu bofort adjounment. 2 would like so refer back, to ttu
tralBii btOiUit it
boon brought to iy notloo that cron
bofor tho tin t wo l i l t e d that sahodulo of margins too O'Ith
Oourt hod further increased tho margins wo ore opri/ing far
I t o ll not bother tho Court with *11 the increases, but in tho
0*10 of tho rigger uid ip lio er, he 1 now in rooeipt i f t p9
oatk, to lth fllToi hin * mergln bniod on tho 4b hour week o f
l 5 d*y, o f 4/Sd. K alee cfooarso, in tn lo Fodorel hotol
tradei * wird, gets 3 .. hito ho also roooiwo ln the Metropolit
fir PHS81WJITI Inore i t no loading asked for ln tnis aeard
MJl.GLIVfchl ho. m are a&Jtlng for nrgln but not a loaning
THK rBialDhitli Shat was culled a war loading
MR.OUViR* Yes, 1 undarstand i t wu* giren during tne *-r ys*TS. 2 underetand It ae giro by agreement* hr* Creel oes Tory genoreue on that oooation
101.CROSSt lo go' eometning for it*
MW.OUVKF.t In the m atter o f the aebsatos bonus * probably
btoultl fohrartthesompuerthpionsge toof eouyr application 1 think we wi iilil' i e '
i t at toot ha* been said*
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MR.CROSS) that does that rean
KlUOLXYEP.i t o l l. 1 t&ki i t wo tollnavs tn right to ask tome quosticns -fto r our case on th is action i e olosod*
MJt.CROSr.| ThO Regulations iroTiis that no do'" S^h"*** aro permitted unldeo at the exprssa request o f the bench.
SMI MSSXDT* hat regulation ie that
KR.CROSSt I do not know, because 1 hanot got i t here but
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Upon the case being called on, the applicant ahall state the fnote of the oaee and shall thereupon ja il h is ......................... .. Mo eoneluding addresses shall otherwise be made*
So i t IS up to uo You own ask, i f you want to.
MH.OLIVER 1 don't think we t o ll h*ro much to ay at the oontomsiom
WI hKibXWi Tne po: nt is i f any points were le f t r^rtioulax
S eortain in o r ninde, *e eould probably i
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aradid,redss themnseewlwaesatttoer thceaml)11ng for a reply ffrion^fu0^^ woall
probably ask you. Sut i t 1 * up to ue to deeide thto
UR.OUVKM I feel uro you to ll be genoroue. Sir. because
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. . Rfb&icSd in the matter o' Asbestos Personal Inji AbramsTead & cpiei Richard F. Scruggs.
nftox a l l | M 4IW sot iuah accomplished advwoatse u --y W a d , All Z aak la the right to state oireoeo. OT course, I f we ara to ba bound by tha atriat fom alltlM aa la id daw la tha regulation, l aaj ba hart for 2 or 3 daft*
MUDaVXBSi I t Bay even ba a questlonof adjournment,
MJUOLIYKftj Zt ou7 ba. However I don't aant to . Mr . ocndwet la prarloua oases nay cot always hava baaa Wat i t ahould hava baaa. But Z aaa always allowed tha privilege a f a faw words at tha ooneluslonof tha oaaa.
MB*GBOSSt Za ay orperienoe tha Court hurn always baaa vary a tria t la that regard, and slowing addresses, to a7 knowledge hava aavar boon allovad.
U I FBlKtfTs Vo i l l a that no person la endluded f n a pladmg tha faata bafbra thaOourt.
MJUOUVCf! Z think, tha gsn ersl provlaioaa governing tha question of tha asbestos fumaos fo lio on tha llaaa e f tha payaent of tha land buraara'ln other awards, auah aa faatarm Aaatralla Brabas M ill and Mtlsa. Shtaa are tha eondltlkae adar ahlab tha boaua la paid in thasa awards, and a fee l aura they eould ba 17 v a il applied to thia particular laduatrj. However, they would ba consequential oa the Oourt i n a t l i g M at for o f aaboatoa boaua.
Ma 0 ooaa to tno question *f Junior orlara aad
you d ll find haro the ployar lo hla apsuar olalaa that a
Junior worker ahould raawlv# * percentage of tha W ill w ee
aad d latrlot a l l s anos. Boa, ua aay thia la a new prlaoipla,
or aa attaapt to Introduc a aa principle Into our hoard*,
personally, u n til sa lta r of * f * days a"u, Z had aa
knowledge c f aay award In .Australia which contained a
previaloa Viaraby a percentage of tha dlatrlot allowance
Would ba paid to tfe# Junior worker. To ay knowledge tha
Junior worker la a ll o f our awards has always beta paid
tha f u ll d latrlot allouanoo,
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X tote i t that han tha nutt*r 0 discussed la tvs in it ia l d a lu a , a ease ws* put up ac to hy tha Junior f^xksn ahould gat u a fu ll d istr ic t allowance, Frankly, Z do not kno any I t ahould bo denied to than. By knou* ledge o f Jw lor workers Is that tnlr req-lrsaents art considerably greater than ny own.
Xfce Janlor worker paye Just as nueh to tr a v e l, and B uffers the eauw lroor.veaiuoe as scat Is known as ... a u ls worker, and X would aay tn at a good husky Junier vowdd oat fa r a e re than the avr*cw a d u lt. Be, why anyone W ould woaw to t h is Court and ask tiu .t Ills allowanee, * prpTldo fo r h ie need* In the d ie t r io t In wtileh thin operates* IiL.u-14 not be granted to h la l a f u l l , 1 an ooapkbtely at a la s s to understand.
Be, i t has bean sa id thars have bean eeae agreenasits an th is q u estio n o f tha pereentage o f d l s t r i s t a lio S T p l d to Junior workera. v a i l . I So not kno o f any
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m OUTYKRt xt ha van baaa said that tha goldainlng award ho* V ia provision. Well, I ant to say that tha *ueatlou vm newer at laaua In Va goldulnlng oaaa, Tha union alainad no alteration la Va rata o f d la trlo t alLov&aoa that W paid far Junior worker#, and naithar did tha player, tha question o f paroantaga payment o f dlatrlot aHavana to Junior vorhara vaa newer in laaua. I f tha goltalning atadard haa aahlng whatever to da with tha atandard of payuant * t vittaaoan Gorge. than X aan truthfully aay that Van va daalt with tha pplloatloa for tha no goldaining award, tha fuaation vaa never raiaad by althar party.
SIX pHSSXUKhTt Art Junior vorkara In tha goldnlnlng lndantry paid tha fu ll goldnlnlng allaaanaa t
m OUTVSkt 1 * |, in whatever d la trlo t tha/ art in.
V CKJhht ha. I t aaya la tha award. "Percentage af baala vaga, diatriat allovanaa and Industry allevanee."
m OLXTKBi X ahallanga Mr Croaa to find anything la tha mnutaa a f tha oaaa o f V ia allagad agraaaaat. I ahallanga Mr Groaa ta find any part a f thoaa nlnutaa hiah vaa avar in laaua.
PWnuTJ Tha quaatlaa la , vhat doaa tha award any t
MMVLXVXIU X w ill produo Oovemuaat Oaxatta la V i eh tha
award la given. lH*nda Oasatt# ta Banah). Xt la eoastiusd
fra V a warding that that naan a paroantaga of dlatrlot
aHavana, haala vaga and indua try allovanaa. Xou i l l aaa,
aftar tha arda "dlatrlot allovanaa*, thara la n fu ll otap.
That la a aoaplata aant#aaa. Xt gaaa an to aay. "paraantoge
a f haala vaga and Induatry al l ov anaa par shift* X rapaat
that n t no tin s vaa that nattar war in laaua, and X would
hawa hoan vary aurpriaad i f thara had haaa any paroantaga
naatlenad an this ooaaalon, haaauaa tha nattar vaa nawar in
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Mh CAOSVt I f tha Court wl 11 look at tha original typad aapy a f Via award, i t la wary uuah laarar. Xt la quite alaar that tha wards "dlatrlot nllovaaa* vara euittad, aad a lln a put through "hasla vaga", and "industry allawiuis" put up ahowa. I f you look nt v a anginaart* award, i t la aat out wary alaarly thara.
t BX PRXSXU&Ti Thara ara no Junior vorkara. Va had hattar try to gat V is point alaar. May X ank Mr 1laons vhat ha aonaidars tha position at Xalgoorlia to ha ao far as apprvatloas ara oonoamad f ho you eonaldar thay gat tha f u ll dla tr lo t a lio van, or only a paroantaga o f I t f
aaya kh XMOUUi tha petition la that hat Mr Ollwar/la oorraat aa far as tha A.v.U. la oonoarnad. Xt la a nattar whtah vaa aswar la dlaputa so far aa the sattlauaat of Issuaa la oonaarnadi hut so far aa tha angina ara oonoamad, V ey applied under the lnoreaaed rutea tor appraatloaa, and tha Court daaldad, for aona unknown reason ifeeaius Vara von no nrgunant ndwanaad hy Mr Valah azoapt tha faat that tha induatry vaa not in n position ta pay lAaraaaas), ta ahaaui V a t pareaatag. Vhan V a avurd vaa originally dallTaredX 11 i t atatad vaa a paraautafa a f V a huala a , plus a w paautaga af Va induatry allowanaa. But Vaa, Vaa VaT attar vaa dallwared, Mr Valah had sut fexwOrd Va laahll&tr Of taa taaustry ta pay. Mr c n h lll aaid tha Induatry allowana vaa a d isab ility allevanea and Mr Valah, la raply, Midi "Aa far aa Va submissions ara oonoamad X ....... inability o f tha induatry ta pay".
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Ihay than alterad ba ptrcinUgi froa th fu11 d lstrlo t i l l w u e fop apprantiosa to a psrosatags of tha dlariat aliovanse and, la saklng that dsoislon, ha prealdsnt of fea Court said that, tinllka a l l ofear avard*, hay hAd dasldsd ta da tt t.
9 U FAR*Xlh*ft Caa jrou giva ss tha refarsnos, Mr Croas T
Ife Chotsi Zt la paga 868 o f fea Judgsant o f fes Court, lssusd oa 2Dfe Ootobar, 1948 AppUoatioa B0. l l / 46.
1 FASSXBUXyi Ihat la tha A.M.U. t
Mi CBbSSi Bo, i t applica te a l l fea uhioas, and saya, *la tha appraatioaahlp avarda . . . . la faot, 1 la tha a l/ p ssslb is nathod o f doallng v ife auob a al biatlon.
IBS FRiJIDaT Mhat doaa ha atan by aaylag unI lla averia alaabara* f
* CBjWi Bost o f tha Court'a avarda prior to tbat data prendad to r a f u ll d ia trlo t allovanoo for Jniora and,.fer tba flr a t tla a , tha Court adoptad hla prinolpla.
ZUS FjtKXfiSMTt zt doaa not naan outalda tba State Oourta.
m Cfessi Be.
"
MR BuaatiO; V took. l t tbat tha raasoa for tbat oaa Mr falah'a arguaant about in ab iU ty to pay. Xf yon look a t tha avard la fea goldsining aaaa thay hora altared tha standard of apprastioaahlp ratas but tbat dld sot apply to tba A.W.8,
MRClXVBH At tha outalda tba diaeusalon la bsenlas a llVtla involvsd. I ant to daal nltb tha appUoatlon nada bf tba Aus tra lla s Vorkara Unios to aoTtr saabars o f tha atalas Isduatry. I bao so t gpt tha original tbraaooluHB asfaadala l s vhlofa olalaa and anavara ara glvas. Z as quotlag tros a oonpllatlon aat up by tba Cbaabar o f Minas l t s a l f . Xeu vi 11 sao l s thla doounant tba unin'a olis tha anavor o f tbs raapondants and tha prasvnt avard o f tha Court and l t aust bo s raaartabla aat o f olrousatanoaa l f , slthout tha asployar roquastlng lt tha Court has raduoad tha d iatriot allovanoo to bo paid to Jnior orlara. Zt vas nevar roquastad by tha asployar and ha navar cada any a la is fbr l t . thars la tha a la is s t tha anavar and tba avard oparatlng at tba tlaa. Zt vsa navar ls disputa, (fiehsduls hended to tha Court).
SUS PJGUXBXBT* Ihat appaara to ba aorraot Mr Croaa.
(i CJttttBt Xas. Z unAsratend l t vea ratead durlng tba oasa, Ur Mil vas os tha Bancb at tba tina, and ba saya ha sannot flnd tha rsfaranoe ln tha tranaert.pt, and ba undarstood a ll along tbat Mr Olivar bad agraad to l t .
IMS FKSUXDWTs Ma a sid l t vita what vea agraad to in ha H la A.V.U. rafaranoa. that doaa not aay ba A.V.U. veuld hava agraad to l t . Xt aight bava baen agraad to by be Court. *haa you look a t tha o l is and tba anavar of oourss l t raaos tha qusstlon o f asbit.
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OKMKSIMS AT. you a*ying u r . o U n r tlu t *t tho
w
u n lir IhiAaitU `Hitlllliilng n ttr i 1 1
lelgoorlia am goulag fUll i l . t r l r t n o L n ^
MlOUm> I * w r t l* that le tu position.
m T K b lK k tt UT. Croit u / i tboy r* not,
X 1axi o f An ta^lortr no 1 aot r t y i u *J2J2Jt2irU2 l Cwourt"l?a0o"sd?la1te,lJyunieodr Iw ks*yr thHot tt ul lrl ib1^. nq*u&i tae
MH.080381 And t e judgment 1 very ole*r too.
MA.QLIYeri There i s no Judgnent o f an A.v.V. m r L i
y**1,
lr to the treasorlpt from * u d
fiWM (jiotit* Xt 1 Quito aifAr ond m"j t
. *2 do not think thoro la any reason to question tho * t^ p-iLu i^r<lbMii* BW#*,Jp diwi.lrl4do. p pfhjojs inoroonod
Xt g s i i on ta 147 | -
aadUke word* liiW u ri the roroenUr* i l l not oppl/ .. and Industry allowance*.
2 d t to s*y 2 know nothing bout apprestleoahlp
**J'4* 1
eren been In any 1 eusloe os
apprenti eeshlp a*urds| and ho anyone oan sy that 2
srood tu Junior worker* la A..U. o*rds gottlag part o f
** allouasse, X a a t leas to U4br<t'0 <.
THS 7fi31MHt At ';*reseot ln tho Oold Unir* ard tho eppreatleee only got a pereeatage.af tho ollewnaee. MH.RMMSI That aao subject to tho teaersl Oold Mining
tho Oold lin in g award eu/ports Hr. Ollrer'* orguaont. 2t aya# *A poretag* o f tho b asis wag* aad lndoatry
tHS JKESXDlSTi Apparootljr th at as 1st or changed by 164/ 48
ItiURHOaSi Zt . an Engineers* a p p lica tio n .
THE rREdlfiftfti fo r a percentage o f tho baole ago. 41t r ie s
ellow eaoe aad industry allow ance.
'
MJUOtoSfH I f Ur. O llr e r 's son ten t l on so oorreot I d o n 't know what tho lin o ; f t e r "busla ago* la tho printed ard o r aeaha, and Z suggest the Court should look at tho o r ig in a l.
UA.OlJVkHl X d o n 't know ahether 1 have any foundation fur h o lle r in g I t . hut 2 do know that ln the typewriting the Mark fallow s tho l e t t e r . 2 suggest ln that <uio i t la u typeograpb l e a l e rr o r . Thors i s no sense ln th e erk being th ere. Xt donotoo nothing.
MH.MaEEStiAt That usually denotes there la eoaethlng to be Inserted?
MA.QUVEhl Xes but there ssena to be something le f t out. I f that la ao.
Produced in the matter of
Asbestos Personal Injury Cases; Abrams Lead & copied to Richard F. Sauggs.'
2b the duplisate o f the original, the Ilo* aa i* Ink* tM H is t r i at allsm as** m i *l*o la ink* ahowlng Bat tB*y m n written 1 b hU tmH i - apparently a fta rth * %mr m
MA.OLXVSRI Z a suggesting i t vould b* an extraordinary act f air aimstaams i f eoaethlag aa inserted la tra amrd tolen aa aarar in lam a. I t i s a noat usuami aireuasUnss I f *to thing 414 sssu r. toat happened aa the question * f Inorasse* argina as auapendad, pending inquiries lata ' a irsanatane* * f th* Industry as wan daallng with - i t s abl i l t / to pay --and th* question o f aaalatan** to to* Induetay tram tha O'Ite.Sort.
tosa m *aa* to th is Oourt late in 1947 r 2948 2 plaeed th* *aa* bafora th* Court ahlah scoured for tha worker* to* payaeat of th* 1 *r*a-2*4 aarglns. Vevar at any tin* tosa to st loan* ma b*fora th* Court as th* quaatlon of Junior mrfcars* allsmns** raised, and It ma la ter, during an apyli*atlaa nato by hr. Cahill and Mr. Glbsoa for th* lnor*as*4 rato* tor appronti*** to ba paid that apparanti/ thsy ay this aagl* rapt into th* lsauas hut Z aa suggesting noa that i t ana navar an lasu* o f th* A.v.U. alala and it aaa navar 41a* sussed. 2 think that th* faot that tha old fra1dant has aatlenad It Mb 1b tosa* alnutss la SUarly due to lnadrart* aaa* Zt hat nothing toateoevar to 4o vith th* A.v.0. alala a t a l l and It m* norar agreed to . lavar haa I t haan a lai and a btoalf of an waployar that a Junior mrkar ahould got a psrsestage of th* d la tr lo t a llo vanta. It haa alaoys naan a raaopOsad principia that ha ahould gat tha fu ll dlsurlst__ alloaemee and to ay knoeledge ho ha* almya paid i t , mtXMM w.myw toatovar into rm t ion Hr. Croat Bay hav* to too eontraxy *d aa Z say i f I find any aaployor ano i s net ^aylngsak any ja d a r aadar to* A.V.U. a m r d l 4U attaapt to Innodi ataly praaaauto him.
I think at a la ta r stoga aa w ill aall aoaa svldsna* 1b aannastion vith Junior vorkara and a* a l i i probably ba ahi* t* giva you ooaa ldaa a t thalr oondltion* at llt t a nooa Cargo. Za fa st you my ba abl* to lnspast soas of th* Junior vorkara to i lo t you art thar* and g o t aoaa ldoa o f too ir naoda.
Ob tha quaatlon o f diotrlat allomna* you a l l l not* ir , a* you sort lnform d thia norning, that our olala for d io tr la t allsmao* ha* boon aaandod. *# aiah i t to b* olaarly aadaratood that an a p r i i atlon o f tala nutur* oould only apply to ttttoaosn Oorga. *a do not lntaad that I t ahould apply to any other piaa than vittaaooa Gorga bemuse of th* peculiar
alreuastanseo. to ara act aking for any inora*** in hat you
*ght farm too general d is tr ic t allomn*#* paid at Vittenooa JkSta and I ouppoee generally tna vork*ra at vittonoea Oorg* ara alngl* aaa.
V* to say teat any *r.r*i*d nan too orto a t I t t o
oeswa nnd aaeanta a l l to a d ia a b iU U a a lnautooat aa am*
Vittaaooa Oeras* ahould ba paid a graatar d iatri*t
S i s s . i. iiir s n u s .. u .
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MAMO&a tor our s ia la in thia raspaot. I m ink oa*
^ r b t a r i S S i i J v o u l d ba to* terrific torneear o f labour
t^i US iUt a mt oi .i <u S ;. to*ltofotool l*l aint sloutda*ntaosaUuyab*ar of marriaA
*"*** umiouaiy. me laudani of diatriat allomaos to lto h a iT p I u d S vittaaooa Oorga tor a nuabar o f ysrs J i t o l s i haaapyllad gaaarally *$ $ }* to laarsaaad sad aoaa
4P
HA UklVto,
M M U in ttM should bo gittn to O r r le d nan Oho goos thsro, ' and noeta tho eoapsay'a Mods for Ubi 11 sod labour. Uuroly, soao son*1doratios ahouU bo sir s* to fasdly soda t W plan, sod I oajduLslss I t should apply only la suah a plaeo as fltd B M s Sorso.
UE fJttaiDT l that i s ths purposs o f a d ls tr ls t sU m m n V
M OUYSfti 1b a sst ths oddod post o f It tin s and to o ffset ths d l a b llltlsd * n d look o f sooni t i t i la outbask srsas as acalast oorksrs la Ma aotivpllt arsa or ths nor# so ft ltd
fk l PRESIDITI Is thoro say In*Unto to #ileh you osa rofsr la uhlsh ths Court has hi Worts aado a distinction bstvosa ths d la t n s t aUovaast pld to a slagls sad a asrrlod aaa t
MROUYXRi Me, I eonfeaa that i f you did I t la this sast you would ba krtakinf Wo la s.
W pftEblDWTi that la ao raaaoa vhy va ahould aot da l t .
Mere auat bo a sta rt fer storythlng at soaa timo, but I aa
waauaa to kan
you lsh i t rsatr&otod to tttenoon Sorgo
l f a d lstr lo t aUouoaoo lo to aako up or look of ansai tles
sad sortala entrai oost te shlah a uorksr Ma put. la suah a
aass, l f ha cara a aarrlod asa, woulda*t ha be ju l t
ostro sdata la aay s f ths outbaok parta o f tha stata t
m OUYKIU far sonal ly , X know o f as other eontra a u * aa itteaoda Sorga la the Morthrfest.
WS PRESIDE*fi t* a t about Xanpi hound V
aa LIVER; 0 ourss.lanpl Sound aay hate Ita o n patellar p osition s, l a aot, I aee hy Ws U ln , idxlehwaa drafted by ao, o f oourso, that wo aro asking or aoao laeroase, l o t la th is osso l t la parti solarly to r f it t a n e Sorga.
WS pKSflJMh** fh a t about tho d is tr ic t allessane a 8s.<d. for aoakathsrro, Mt. Magnat aad Qua t Xhty ara rasaoaably outbask piasse, aro May aot t
i OUYEJU fou w ill aotloo that ths ollowaneo lnorsasss * o a l t sots boyond satan M iss o f a railway, that is to s i a the added d isa b ility o f bslng a n y roa a railway.
WS PREbDEHTi In nsny outbaok Mnlns areas ths d lsa b llltlss ust bo just as groat to asrrlod non aa they would bo a t flttanooa Sorgo, r o la tlto ly .
* 0UTERI S8, 1 would oay tho dlaahtU tlas Mat n a J gxoa aay ba groatar. But obtloualy thojr hats not r**, T*Ad Wa attention o f t u Court, or tho d isab ilitin e oauld hats*
booa allMaatad.
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WS PRESIDIMI*. Thsrofors, la l t not s uusetlon of prlnelpls* y . . . . . . . ou ssy to us in ths oaas of Tflttsnoon terga you auat aake an extra nllowanoa for a nsrrisd non, thon Jum1| ssuaona* so t nscoasarlly yo, but sonoona firos your aida of S ^ b i e V o o u ld o o n to Z n d aay, Obtlously ths logis
Mat ateppsi)a#0e%t 9pltstrssauoaoda# OthosrgCo oaulrntofeaoptlalss' t^oMothSoTreoSubtabaasRx
U H g aS j*
K.TjJSepll* ltSSXf.
HP OLIVER; I want to aaka ths point that this appltoation, n fe r ns T an personally oonoornod, oould only apply to
flttanooa terga.
UK OUTER.
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KM yjotdXPSBTi Xes. X loo I t eonoeras only Vittenoon Serge.
W i t aiiM to m to raise a fetter of asrs gsasral appUtn-
tlsa . M i I f m pwatod four applUatlea to
be hiri pal
t o l l to rsfuat sap other.
* GlXYXRt X think a a u r lo i ana la entitled to receive m m eoaeKoratloa at ouoh a place as Vittenooa Oorge.
fe* vaxsxoxMTi A ll r if e t . But i f that is ao( lo t us argue aa the general jirlnelple and M l particularly ea ltteaoea Serge. ....................................
M OUVSRi hat you aeaa is that X should argue fee principle for the fe e ls e f the Borth-Uest. tHX rasaxi>TJ Xea, so that you o*n m f u t give us sons car11 eular reasons ohy 1 1 is needed aore at vittenoon Gorge than. aay( a t Dre Baida, or any of fes ether outbaok areas. I do M l think you e*n r e str le t your aguaait degleally to nttenoea ergs in this lnstanoe.
OLZvm karaonally, I knew o f only two eentree in fe# e r fe -v e st fesre there i s any eonesntration e f labour sad that i s a l Vlttsnoea Oorge end, e f oourse, Xaapl. outside e f the teu u in fee Berth-*set. Gscorally, the d lstriet allowance paid In fe s d lstrlota 2 haws asatloaed i s far la exease e f y , n week.
MB UCXihMAs fee t would i t he la e pleo lik e Marble Bar or Bullagine T MB OLXVXKt Xt la 33e. In that area.
lit MCJCSUiAs Xa there any dlatlnetlea between aarrled and single nee
MR OUVXRl Me.
ah MCXDUtAt Mow would those d lstr le ts eoajared with H tteM ea Stage fa r aaealtlea and ee en
MROLXTCR] XB this w*Xi A le t of fee workers work la fes se ssts l towns.
fe MCXXBMAt Bullagine is M t s eoastal town.
fe ULITERi There are not toe aany a t Marble Bar. X do M t knew I f there are any. Certainly, there la m gpLimning going on, aa far aa X know.
TUX FAkhXBHiT; Do you aean to asy that there are no aeabero e f the A.V.U. at Marble Mar 7
fe OUTOit 2 do M t think we hers a aaaber goldalnlng There day.
IMg yKls>2UtttTi hot a aaaber doing any work 1
fe OUVSKi Xes, they are doing road work.
IMS yiUB>ZD9lTi Po they get a d ls tr ic t allowenoe 7 MR ULXVDll Xes, BMa. 33a.
fek Pfu>2Pkli? o fe e / get aa extra allowenoe to r aarrled neat
f e OLlYXRj Bo. Aa I hate said, i f yuu do i t in ease you w ill Be Breaking fee le e .
rXiiXOSttT 2 aa only eaying that by restrletlng yoir olein
A2.
m OUVRR.t-d-AI
l a fkla M i M d, i f l t la gr*Rt#A, l t 111 anka l t n r | t f ( l M l t Ib ua and va vi 11 ba hard put V 11 to rafuaa u ; atlwy ^ | tt a .
in OLTViJd th la p a rtic u la r aaaa la b u llt a iba a lr to a a ta a ttt I i l t t a i o o a O o rii, >d tha avara, o f ta im a , aovara a a l r a ara a f 30 a ila a la and trovad V l t t a w a torga a t aa va f o l | 1h*t aa appU aatloa auoh aa thta oovld a o t bo aad l a r t m , Afta a l l , va aogld aomanoa aa lnduatrp a t H all'a Croa* and praboblr aanvlnoa tha Court th at thoro vara a l l aorta a f p a v a d lf f la u ltla a to ba faoad a t auah a plaaa, t v t vevld a a t ba a a t la a t n a auah aa Parb) aad va vould 1*7 th a t a parata llT lng a t H a ll'a Croad vould ba a a titla d ta aoaa aoa> a U a n llM a r a r a paraoa l l f l n i a t Paa^r aad th at vavid applj la lia aaaa.
Vil JfCSHIMQift Xh , but th at la a o t aa tha quoatloa a f aa laaraaaa aa bataaaa a uairlad aad a oiAglo a u , aad th a t la fav polat.
I* o u v x at 2 vould aay l t ould applj to vtttcnooa to rca,
aa ara a a tia fla d th a t a alarla aa aaa cat along v ith a d a-
t r i a t allovaaaa a f y ia ., but a arriad a u a t Wittaaaau
targa toaaot da aa.
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(Continuad on paga 44)*
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**1^!**'^ Rpraaiaia iha l l f f l c u l t y yau vere f.oad ita#.
**A X tu* U t va '111 bave io >to4um eoa ridano ai
tttW aeoa OTt* i* prove otr ontentlon.
W PREDlDteTl X# you v i l i bave t ( l r t ua 1011 r t u o i
iJjr m ebete* (art tre temi o fa r Jua ba tne t t a n t a
n in i.
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R.OLITE*i tk evi? roseen X v ili be ubi# io g* >u la iba pvallar tereBeieneae t vlttenooa (Jorge, tea added voti
f lv ln g , la frelgbts -
t u PRESIISMi Poae 1 se tte r io >ou teut alsuee la affeet
vl aava diaralastlo a agalnat Barrivi aant
UUCUYKJ SO. thore la bla u<i*d banafli va tne apio r tesa ba caia Barrial vaa *e t ile ! dowt in ih toan, ha t e li bava a a ta b llla e l labour fbree. X ihlnk han hr. Breedtaurst aMlyavv bla vaia brougnt about by tea ontlaual tumovar f laboor, ba vichi avalla l i le un addad adv.ntuge io hia Va bava a tesa a f aoniontel vaa.
t * l PRESIDENTI 1 1 . Cresa, va l i . iroa<'hnrat'a beh.lf, alght ib i ab i l ru U fM U io aaant your alala in thli reepeet.
HR.OLITIHi Xaa. . X iblnk iba baet vajr v i l i ba io produoe . Wllane ai ia bai goas aa ai Mtienooa Oorga, end ! thlnk
a an do t e li lian aa gai there. Zi alrht ba tne tee way ia prova otr a la la . 1 knov Ur. broudhurat h*e a vry
tk*potute lavaialga af tha w a t of llving et tlttenooa Core. a ivi aa tha eihar <Uy iteti oh an _var lt tool ore uua
*3 tv pay i ingle aan'a food b i l l .
n x PISSIDE*?] ( I l ba export io ba quotai In teaCoarti a ili giva bla oaa avilan on tbat, bai I a 1 1 prmalaia balp Irta yoiaraalf and fa llo * dvooatoo In gl ring aa aoaa t t a m x vaab parhapa, raforoneos In tea Industriai Gasolio io Jvdgaoate o f osai Fra Ideate on in qaoetlon of tha priv ai piaa applylag io d is tr iv i allow.no generai ly, just aa yva bava bava goal aaougb io ir.fora aa on ih prlnalploo appUaablv io latei* t r i a l lloM iooa.
bJUOUTUU Mtboat a i ib is tugo balng ablo io giva you tai lafM aatloa, X turno ite) la ta praaldani Dwyar elveye a l l l i b a i ia ba ts a a l iha llst-dvabisgee of uny glvaa a iri a r a ltv a ilo a . X Iblnh itasi la no ha aunvad up
aa pesiti
Parfcapa ai tela tata 1 hould giva you on of tea paai hi ater? a f tea dia t i l et alleo**, leu a ll! aa l f yau fa bvak t* ava efour aarllaet *trdr, ttu di trini a lla vana bivi lnaraaaal alte a*g*.
X aa vetlbg nea frea a*rd Pe.33/!*? telati la batacan
t w b lalaier for w rke, tea Initer for *tr sepply. mg * Eralnaga, .tea bini atar fa r traci ng concoma, ina Colonial l i v a U r r . tea Mlnlater eontrelllng th stufe Shlrpme Service, vtd tea Nlnlator for ita borita Veet, applicanti, nd rarto
pinebara* alee. l i 1 T al.3, l e .} , poga 12o of tne t . i .l . w .
Rara you teli tea , t i r , ih ut dietri ai ullovanan la
p a li ai cute polnta aa Onalev, Pori Saneen ani pi. Hedlund
vaana in test r w , 4/61 par oeb. l t 70U look a i tea V^k.Oovi. Gaietta, T o l.ll Ko.l, j-aga
16, yoa t e li fiad test tea beale aura eea adjuated on tea
i t harte 1.931 atei ih* mi a f te anta nu? vare laorauewd i n a X4/ 5/ te <3/17/ - la ** Biuta ganarallf, end In tea
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o w o y o iti^ a a r a s m 4 1 /7 /1 . f c r th a lo u th -M o t filv ia l on / /a .
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ood ho u m cool
0 I t should ho 4 7 /4 por 000k .
f m sX K B T i StA you not o ll oo tho o t r l o t allovenoo
"isolar dlstrlotsT#*t o f liv in g and look o f aoooUloo la p^or
MUOUTKRI 100.
t B WUIXarri to l t ho no c o s e ra i rolotloB O hlp ta tho solo asgo.
KB.OUTSR1 1 ouggost tho d i s t r i c t oU ooboo s B a d ov# oso ro latlo sjh lp to tho basis .go.
t B n i n n i t i M Xu slklog shout a p a rticu la r 41a t r i a t 7 f t * I odio i . h ilo ho haolo oago oppllOahlo to A ustrali*. o l # t 1* VOOM hy g l por oook, tho p a rtic u la r ooat of liv in g
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Mo ho Posporlo*, ho pola 1 aa making lo hat thore notas o ha sasa l a s i n astioa h r toso in erv a io tho d l a t r l c t a l lo seo ha so paid in 1931. aad aero aa Boa you ocri s i or ho diflohUltioo lsrolvod in rotldlag l a a plaoo ouoh aa ntttoaoos targo. B i t * of oouroo lo oooo 20^ allot by roa a lolssd fros ho fort
B S T K M B O fi On ho okhar hand l t io p ro tty d o t o toy a l r .
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tta proOttitloa flguroo for Ha laai ala oantha o f Ha aeant yaar do net ntfloaio H it Ha 4P-fc>ur m k has aay datria t a l e ffe o t oa thla induatry. XI eoold
rather sopear V a t V e pmduesloa ot ero par tea-par aaa kaa iaaraaaad la i a i f fantaseen. 4
H a Keaeer pt HM happy atata of i f a l n santa V * t ha teraed-fhe ratlesaliantlon of houra. Va aerea lth kU . va a i| that H o -ia r k a r ,|iw Hit oeeb-end H m i , 00aaa va w t aad orto .a la t hallar for lio jHUy veek.
/ersonally, va aro la alaost ovar/ in su m e w iy
planead vi Va tha hours gim a la tha m alas aoard. Va hayo e *
aet-ep govaraias tha eeatlnoous preoaaa oorker, a eeV-ep p t -
ese&ag H* w k o ip iM * oorker aad a aah-vp p n i t l a i Vka
M m l eurfsee verkar. The oarfaoa ooiaer aad m ifp m H
oorker verk e 5-417 oaak Croa vendar va Friday. Sha eootia-
nems prooasa oorker, that xa, tha plaat oorker oa a o e a tln -
eos poaasa, oorka a reatar ayatan, aad dees this by ayao-
aaat vlth h ls ap loyar aa v e l l as Hat tha asar laya sv*.
l o volteo a 4-hour veek Croa Monda/ vi Batuiday. l i a v a
lo aproad ovar olx da/o. l a aaa heve aa/ roalera da/ o ff
le tha veek, n d tha avard allooa that ha mrka erdlaary tina
Meada/ va tatnrday. ha la paid l f ha oorka a aixth eoaaeea-
Uva a h ift a t tha rata e ( u s e aad a h alf. Ofenda/, a f eouree,
la traatadaa.a aaparata d a/, vlth penalty rata.
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Shat la tha i H p m tha goldaiala* laduatry aad~tt eould v a l ha appUad vo thia in d a s /. Va aaa aa aaad Cor a apartare Croa tha prlnelple oX t&at wa l a tha standardoorklag vaak, Mr B n a d m n t haa a iraataaal plaat a t Vlttee00a Herra ahiah a a / la tha Cutara intuir aoaa eoatiaaeus pmeeae oork. 1 thlax that Car M*a purpoaa a f h is oerk aad tha battar uitflerat*ndlng betoeen hla aad hia aeploya. ha eoald v a l adapt tha prlnelple that aparatea la tha goldalala s ladaatry. Cha oonttnuoua verksra la tha gsldalalng l a dost r / oark a roitar ay* tea by asraeamt, hiah elvaa thaa aa avaras?# vaak o f 42 hours. Sha/ vork orar a a /U aC i l H t oaaka, alo veska a f 4P honra and tae vseka o f 40 houraythat la , afia r aaarahlns * U Ihe roalar s/staaa la a l laaal tha Kasliab-speakiag aeuatrlas, tha baal roslar oa aaa fiad, aad la oorklRC aoat a a tlifa a to r il/ ln tha soldalalns Induatry. X easseat th a ahould ba aa depature Crea that prlnelple, aad va trT -ait te tha atalayar tha prinoip la a f v a l malar.
Mov va eeao te tha queatlen ot tr*naport, aad V ilo oa aay oo ara aot ala im n s that tha aploya ahould aot pay for truAport oador oartala eondltlona, va de aay H i t tha romee arraasoaaal ahareby ha la wund to hla m lo p u M for a parlad af ala saxk aontha, lo oarn a a rooard hla Cara V Vltteaoea Harga, va thlnk a fa lr propooitloa eould ba ta allav hla a parlod o f Ibur aoaths. To ba quita fraak, tha aplalaa a f our paopla la 1ht V a / ahould aat ba oslad V
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m OLXVSU Zoo, and X hop you w ill pl aoa a voir geasroua latarpratatloa on tha natter o f allowing m to clear Up any pointa in regard to ahloh X hawe not spoken on thia oaaaaloa.
UK /WaiDUm tha) hava you to U / , Mr filaona 9
MR aiMouii Mr 11war haa wary capably cowered tha geneinl la in and therefore X hawe not isuch to aay.
As regards Clauaa 4(a), wa 4aalt with that nattar previously and, aa Ur ( t ill aald in oonfereneo tha othar day, tha aaai diatrlat allowanoa la for tha apprantioa and tha junior worker, there w ill ha no naoaaalty to oeaaant on that aattar.
MR ELAVlkbi that did you a*y nr b i l l akid 9
lOi GHibrn X ebjaot to aay rcmrka rapaatad wkiah hawe haan anda at a conference, A eth er thay ara adnlttad or not.
n s PKiyxua.iri 1 1 1 you ara saying la that Aa me point la in your argument aa Ur Oliver haa arguad la hi* aaao.
MR sxmuuUi Xas, and X cannot aay aay nora thaa ha haa aald. Xn ralatlon to tha hours alauaa, i f tha lattar portion la lnnludod la the award and i t la desldad that *rkara anployad on nalntanaaaa n r k mad othar aoaaaaary work, tha waah*a work . . . 5J days iron Monday to Saturday inclusive** that noaa to aay, i f that la lapl aneaf d aur w i m tty thara w ill newer receive a $-dny weak haoauaa a l l Mtair work la ea nalntanaaot.
though * appraalata hr hroadhurat'a aotloa la lwsleceatlivg tha 4>-hour vaak, our aanhara haws expreaaed raaaatnaat of tha m ot that I t la w r M la daya, and oa aawsral occasions they have aakad aa A n t tha union haa haan doing about tha noising waak. That la ona of me aia raaaond X have oona to tha Court on thla (i h i i U.
Whan tha hlua labaatoa Applloation ho.26/46 wan
aattlod, tha hours la tha aiming award wars agreed upon,
whan tha union wanted tha
waak in five daya la tha
alnlng award, tha Chaabar o f Mines offarad tha aaaa houra
alauaa aa in tha blua aabaatoa award aad tha Court gramtad
tha 4P-hour waak in fiv e days.
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The President, rsvleelng tlie 4U-hour week daotsloa, approxiasttly 12 nontha Into, on tha 2Mth Ootober, 194c, s a lt what, owing to tha rationalisation o f hours, produc tion had lnoraasad. What la asant by *ratloMUeatloa o f hours* 9 Aotually, tha Court la i t s decision proTided tar y>day waak for our aaubera on a aoraal A t f t . (b) pro wldad a spread over s ix daya for tha continuous proesen workers. And furthar they-directed a 5 par oant. paaalty for sh ift work.
Tbta was only included in tha engineers' *A tha a. w.U. award* In the ldnlnln* Industry, because they war tha only people with continuous process or m itt work to do.
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alauaa, aubalauaaa (h) aad (h), aa la tiia Boldalaiag wrd,
baaauaa a raallsa aeaa o f tha d lffia u ltla a Mr BroMhurat
b n U p thart ln ratf^rd b labour,
fa acnaidar tha la a i l 10 aireuaataaaaa, tabla
lata aonaidaration that tha lata Praaldant af tha Court ta l4
that avlng ta ratlonaliaatiaa a f heure aad tha aaj tha/
haro baaa vorfced aut to eever a i l eaergtneiee, raplaeeaaat
a f plant and aatnteaaaoe, tha aaaa houn elauaa abauld applj
aa aad appliad prerloual/ la tha oihar aabaatoa aaard, aad
tha aaaa hours alausa ahauld npply ta botb aaarda la tha
futara.
Hr OUver daalt *lth tha othar aattara, aet he M l/ aaa l wlah ta touoh oa no* la tha approatleeahlp rgulation,
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thaa Application 26/46 aa befort tha Court tha ualoa aad tha aaaageaant af Ilua Aabaatoa agreed ta tha Court'a ataadardiln tha goldaining aaaa, tha Court*e^eta-- garft u t t r u t t*.
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A ctu ally the court standard does so t provide fo r the in clu sio n o f th is regu lation 37 in the G oldfields awards. *ed a c tu a lly there hue been o n ly one apprentice eaployed a t the Blue Aabeetoe und th a t apprentice subsequently l e f t beoauae e fth e high ooet o f liv in g even though he ** g e ttin g 3. d le t r l c t a y y l allovan o e. 2 have been
lu d q r In g e ttin g h lu elloo& tcd dona h ere, so Hr. Croc a
vould have to ahow ehange o f elrcunstanoes a t to efcy the apprenticeship regu latlon e ebould be a lte re d la r e la t io n to
X understand in the very near future *n application 111
out before the court iron boto -the unions <jid the employers
to auend the apprenticeship at <ndard regulatlone In reepeet
o f the present clause "O'. X think there should be provia loo
in the appreetloeehlp regulations for lib erty to apply to
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