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( f- otel IN ATTENDANCE: Minutes '' GENERAL i'EETING Asbestos Textile Institute June 4 , 1965 Le Provence, Thetford Nines, Canada At-TRIGAN ASBESTOS TEXTILE CORP. H.K. TORTER CONPANV, I NO. J M, Weber J.T. Griffis J .L. Rainey J.D, LcCluer G-S. Fabel D.E. Childers J.W. Christenbury Wm. Naaskant PAYBESTOS-i ANIIATTAN, IRC . D.F. Quealy J.A. Brown, Jr. L.C. Williams ASBESTOS CORPORATION LTD. J.P. Wronski G.F. Jenkins i-'.'v. Oliver P.E. LeClerc (A.C.S. Ltd.) R.2. Smith E. L. Alexander (A.C.S. Ltd.) J.W. Ha',Ac ins W.K. Ought red M.P. Carson TALL2/AK-i.:c CLUSKEY FABRICS CO. A.L. Penhale Ted D. NcCluskey G.F.A. Brink N.C. Pharo TURNER & KEWALL LTD. Bernard Lincoln BELL ASBESTOS LINES LTD. G. V;. Smith U.S. RUBBER CQNPANY F. T. Smith A.C. Link Wm.J.W. Smith a D.T. Austin, Jr. R. Dodds-Hebron -'S.J. feele, Jr. Norman-L. Barr B.D. Hubbard J.H. Wolfsie (Dr.) CASSIAE ASBESTOS CORP. J. D. Christian BRITISH.BELTING Sc ASBESTOS LTD. H. Gritzuk J.L. Litchell T.T. Tigert R. Larson (Ontario Research CAD'/A LASER, HI Ck G RS HAL <0 TAFT Foundation) . P.Jay Flocken (Legal Counssi ) JOHUS-LANVILLH CORP, IV.S. Hough E.A. Schuman VJ.C. Atkinson C.L..Sheckier Dr. IC.VJ. Smith ASBESTOS TEXTILE INSTITUTE II.E. Sunbury (Exec. Secretary) . SCCIETE ANCNTLE FRALCAISE DU FSRO Konsieur Collineau ,T Decaestecker LAKE ASBESTOS OF QUEBEC LTD, U.S. PUBLIC HEALTH SERVICE L.J. Messei Dr. L.J. Cralley E.A. Farrell K. VI. Kelson . JOHNS-NAHVILLE CO. OF CANADA LTD. ii.W. Hendry' ** GUESTS ** ICarl V. Lindell, Chairman, Canadian Johns-Nanville Co., Ltd. J.O.Eby,Vace Pres.& Genl.i gr. ,Jeffrey Nine,Can.Johns-Nami lie Co-Lt V R. Gagnon, Lake Asbestos of Quebec, Ltd. L. Piuze, Line Ngr., Lake Asbestos of Quebec, Ltd. L.J. Lessel, President, Lake Asbestos of Quebec, Ltd. A.L. Penhale, Chairman &. President, Asbestos Corporation Ltd. G.F. Jenkins, Director, Asbestos Corner at ion Ltd. : inn tcs Cues ts : General Meeting continued: 2 L. Montpetit, Manager, Nicolet Asbestos Tines Ltd. Ivan Sabourin, Q.C., Montreal C.rJ. Brown, Hell Asbestos Mines Ltd. J.A.D. Marcotte, Director, Asbestos Corporation Ltd. Dr. R-J. Terrill, Mgr., Carey-Canadian Mines Ltd. F.P,. Hodgson, Manager, rlintkote Mines Ltd. .nchance, Q.A.M.A. Dust Engineer, Thetford Industrial Coleman, Manager, National Asbestos Tines Ltd. M inic v Hr.N.L.Barr,Director,Bell Asbestos Mines Ltd.,Sales 1 Dr. R. Marson, Director, Ontario Research Foundation , At las Asb.Co Ui J. l 2 IS , ."iS S i . to Genl. oa_ r assrar Asbestos Corp., Ltd. Dr. Paul Cartier, Thetford Industrial Clinic, Thetford "i re s Geo. S. Fabel, American Asbestos Textile Corp. A. Collineau, Societe Anonyms Francaise Du Fercdo M. Decaostecker, " " "" u In addition to the above guests we were privileged to have thirty ladies accompany their husbands to our luncheon on Friday, Jure 4ti ----- Minutes of the Meeting ----- 1. The meeting was called to border by President J.A. Drown, Jr., v;ho expressed our appreciation for*'the opportunity of holding this meeting in Thetford Mines, and thanked our hosts. Asbestos Corpora tion, Ltd.; Dell Asbestos Tines Limited; Canadian Johns-Manvilie Co., Ltd.; Cassiar Asbestos Corporation Limited; aid Lake Asbestos of Que bec Limited, for their wonderful hospitality, and meticulous handling of the many details incidental to the meeting. The miners' committee who handled the local arrangements consisted of P.F. Carson, Asbestos Corp.; H.M. Hendry of Can. Johns-Manville Co.; Roland Gagnon, Lake Asbestos of Quebec; Wm.J.lv*. Smith of Dell A.sbestos Mines representing Cassiar Asbestos Ccr p.; and F.Parkei- Smith, Dell Asbestos Tines, who was Chairman of the committee. To all of these gentlemen we extend individual thanks for a job that was exceedingly well donePresident Brown then introduced a number of the special guests who were attending this meeting, following v:hich he explained that due to the fact that some of the men had to leave before noontime in or der to catch a uidafterncon flight out of Montreal, the usual agenda had been reversed to enable them to hear our several guest speakers. 2. Our first sneaker was Hr. M.J. Vessel, Fresx1 ent of Lake Asbestos of QCuueelbec, Limited, who welcomed the re nbers of A.T.I. with these remarks: "President Brown, Members of A.T.I., Guests: It is a pleas ure, on behalf of the Canadian Asbestos piners, to welcome you to asbestos country with its man-made mountains and to tell you how released and honoured we are to have you hold your meeting in Thetford I have not been very active in A.T.I., I have followed its wo: have been doing with the Quebec asbestos . itung Association, vaiich { .Vinutcs - General Meeting - continued -3 MUC.il an n r c : in ted. and mutually beneficial. I know the work c: an association such as yours is a difficult one due to wide r_a_n_ge_ and complexity of problems that have to be dealt with and wish to con gratulate your association in the srlendid and effective way that i + conducts its affairs and copes with your industry problems. " As yet there is no shortage of Group 3 spinning fibres from the min<^ in Canada, as I can still see plenty of order-1 alters around. How- there ace indications of rossible shortages in some of the as bestos cement grades. At one time the spinning fibre grades were the mainstay of the asbestos producing industry, but this has now been supplanted by the asbestos cement fibre grades together `"ith expanded uses of the shorter fibres. During 1964, the Canadian Asbbestos producing industry employed over 6000 people ?r.d exported apn roxinately 1,333,000 tons of asbestos * with an approximate gross value of $155,000,000. Cf this total only 34,6m7 tons were crude and spinning grades with an approximate total value of $14,000,000. The U.S .A. market consumed approximately ~ 14,600 tons of crudes and spmnl:ing_ fibres with a value of anproxi- mately $6,400,000, and this has remained rather constant for the past 3 or 4 years. The only other large suppliers of spinning fibres are Russia and Rhodesia* The figures we obtained during our visit to Russia would indicate approximately 20 to 25 thousand tons of spin ning fibres out of an estimated total production of 1,600.000 tins; so Canada still holds its dominant position as supplier of textile f ibres.. The cooperative work that is being carried on for improved fibre testing re thods and standards should lead to a better understanding between the producing and consuming asbestos industries. IT. Sabourin, as attorney for f'.A.r.A., will tell you somethiig of the work that is being considered with respect to the health of the workers in our industry. I feel there should be room for cooperative work between the A.T.I. and .A.Ir,A. I hope your visit among us will be a most happy and pleasan t one and will result in a better understanding of our mutual problems, aad I know the.Local Committees of A.T.I. and the Canadian Asbestos "iners have done a splendid job in making your stay amongst us both happy and memorable.*' . 3* President Drown then introduced Dr. SCenneth W. Smith, Medic al Director of Johns-tfanville Corpcr ation, who stressed the desirabili ty, indeed the necessity, of the asbestos industry telling the truth, about the health of its employees and giving me aningful reports as to company experience. He pointed out that some of the more prolific writers on so-called "asbestosis** have relatively little background of actual ''cases'* on which to base their theories or conclusions, as compared with our collective and also individual company experience over many years tine. Dr. Smith urged full cooperation on the part of various companies to open their records, and full cooperation with the work of the U.S. Public Health Service. lie stated that the gen eral overaj favorably wi ponding re mb 4. Tresidcnt Drown then introduced f-r. karl V. Lindeil, Chairman, Canadian Johns-?anville Co., Ltd,, who expressed his pleasure at hav ing the opportunity to attend this meeting, and*.sard that i'.e would. ] ii:e to have If. Ivan Sabourm, -i.C., attorney fer the G..A. ,tell us about the work that has been done in past years to protect the notes - Gene cal\ - continue' -4i health of asbestos workers, and about the outline planned for the f`-v:iy forned O.A.H.A. program for Research in Gining Pathology f0y tiie Study of Respiratory Diseases as related to Chrysotile Asbestos Some of the very interesting points brought out by t;r. Sabourin v/ ' Carolina csrare t>oarci or Health was contacted to compare methods fo-- dust counting and for X-ray procedures. Also worked with those hos pitals an Canada that had compiled background experience in the o : r e s nr a t or y d 1 s e as e s. ~' Paid tribute to Dr- PaulL CCaarrttiieerr of the Thetford Industrial Clinic, pointing out that Dr. Canrttiaee.:: had conntlrbibuuvtCed nmavnyaviualauabblle papers and reports on asbestoses over a span of many years. Also that ' knowledge regarding asbestosis. Stressed that the mining industries require their doctors to keep up with the work being dene by others on pneumoconiosis research. aiid~ to attend meetings both here and abroad, and participate in the dis cussions at those meetings. He stated with great emphasis that the knowledge possessed by the industry's doctors on the biological ef fects of chrysotile asbestos was not surpassed elsewhere in the world, mentioned that contacts have been made with doctors in Rus sia, Hast Germany, Finland, Italy, England and other countries,. Expressed his belief that cancer is not necessarily involved due to association with asbestos. Pointed out that the A.fi.A. article that appeared only about two weeks ago was not convincing - only informa tive - indicates much further work is needed - regrets adverse oublicity that results from such articles. Expressed the opinion that while the welfare of the worker should be the responsibility of management, we need to know more about the worker:s environment after he leaves the plant. Explained that the Q.A.U.A. program is still, in the formative stage. They seek alliance with some university, such as McGill, for exrsple, sc that authoritative background for publicity can be had. The pro gram wi-r start modestly, with competent men coming into it - men with a vast background of actual experience. They recognize the neec to consolidate experiences, and also having traveled widely in other they find that research units are usually located adjacentc a >. rge, well equipped hospital- Frequently, the worker has a condition that is riot attributable to association with asbestos, dis covered through cooperation with the hospital staff* t-.-. -us.ion Mr. Sabourin expressed the thought that it would be wonderful if the Asbestos Textile Institute could join their efforts tc the Q.A.Ii.A- program for the benefit of all - deplored.the isolation of efforts and poor liaison between research laboratories and research units. Suggested that a coax.on-council as a governing body might be the answer and result in more rapid progress. o. The next speaker was Dr. L.J. Cralley, oftke U.S Public Health Service, who f-or the past severa-l years has- Vb.een supervising the ex tensive Environmental Study of asbestos employees in texuij.e p*ani.s in the U.S.A. Dr. Cralley said that the Stud'- was going well, and _ fine cooperation from both management and employees has been experi enced. The U.S. Public Health Service is r.ow extending their work into other asbestos industries sucli as asbestos-cement, Clc. Ft.e_s that the results to date certainly justify the program and its ru thur expansion. smites Ge ieting - continued: - 5 la other areas of activity the U.S.P.H. Service presented a paper at the recent African Industrial Conference at Houston, Texas, which * summarized their study experience in five plants. Draft copies of two papers were distributed to our Air Hygiene Committee on June 3rd. The first paper by Jeremiah B. Lynch of the Dept, of Health, Hduca- tion and Welfare, titled "Asbestos Study - Procedure and Findings" and the second paper, titled "Relationship of Impinger Counts to Fibre Concentration by Membrane Filters in .Asbestos Textile Plants". .`Doth of these papers are covered more fully in the. report of our Air 4/Ogiene & Coremittee which is attached co these minutes.) Dr. Cralley plans to specie at Seminars frequently in the future, such as University of Texas, insurance companies, etc. Mentioned that since the conference on "Biological Effects of Asbestos", held in New York last October, the New York Academy o? Sciences has now established a 'Division of Environmental Sciences". At the cocci u- sion of his talk Dr. Cralley answered several questions from the audience. 6. President Brown then asked Mr. N.V/. Hendry, General Sales Mana ger for Canadian Johns-I-'anville Asbestos Limited, to report for the Fibre Committee. Air. Hendry stated that inventories of spinning fibre are am.p3e but substantially l^elow the levels of one year ago. Demand for'Group 3 fibres remained relatively flat in 1964 in most countries of the world-with the exception of the U.S. and Europe. The increase in demand in the latter area was considerably greater than in the U.S. Business conditions in Japan are fair, Italy poor, Germany fair. United Kingdom good, and the remainder of Europe relatively good in the asbestos textile and asbestosrcement ^fields. It is expected;, however, 'that the second half of 1965 will show an improvers nt over the first half in those areas of the world, in which business cd ndi- tions have been below average. The average reduction in the -200 mesh McNett content of spinning fibres from 1953 to 1965 is in the order of 50 - 75 per cent. New asbestos fibre production projected from new properties in Cana-- includes the Clinton Creek' property of Cassiar in 1968, Asbestos 1,600,000 cons exceeded th or Canada ror first time and trend is expected to. continue in the forward years. is