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FILE NAME Painters and Allied Trades PAINT
DATE 1974 Sept
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DOCUMENT DESCRIPTION Conference Proceedings - International
Brotherhood of Painters and Allied Trades
PROCEEDINGS
OF THE
Twenty General Convention
OF THE
International Brotherhood of
Painters and Allied Trades
September 1974 Los Angeles California
PROCEEDINGS
of the
Twenty General Convention
of the
International Brotherhood of
Painters & Allied Trades
Los Angeles Septe- m Sepbteembr er 9-13 1974
ET t ee
THIRD DAY
Wednesday September 11 1974
GENERAL PRESIDENT RAFTERY Will the Convention please be in order
Before I ask for the invocation one of the Brothers in the hall has
lost his identification card It is Franklin P. Abling Local 1514
I have got it up here on the dais
if
if somebody wants to come up and
get it for him
Let's have a little order Brothers
The Chair now recognizes for the invocation Father Lewis P. Bohler Jr. of the Advent Episcopal
Church
Father Bohler
FATHER BOHLER Almighty God amidst the splendor of this
grand ballroom we are reminded
that that
it was not always this we now the laborers
way
were
once the servers and the host obvi-
ously was not us but we are grateful for the long journey that we
have made rather successfully from
the early dreams of organized labor
through the craft unions through men like Samuel Gompers and John
L. Lewis looking to budding giants
like the American Federation of
Labor and then finally the merger of
AFL and CIO
This meeting this great meeting illustrates that we indeed have come
a long long way and some day the collective strength of organized unions organized labor will more
than rival that of management and the executive branches of our gov-
ernment and we will then be able
to negotiate and to engage in dia-
logue as equals complete equals rather than as persons asking for
favors
.
INTERNATIONAL INTERNATIONAL BROTHERHOOD OF F
Remembering this past when we
a group of little people came to- SELE
a gether and formed giant we hope SELE
that we never forget that we are SELE no larger than the smallest indi-
vidual
SELE Recent events on our national
"
scale have suggested that perhaps giants get out of touch with little
people from time to time and fail
rhe to represent them adequately When we some day become not
only bastions of strength but also of leadership may we never forget
from whence we came and may we never lose contact with the smallest -
h man on the scale May all of our endeavors be to
this end and may we ask your guidance in carrying this out
Amen
y
GENERAL PRESIDENT RAF-
TERY Will the Delegates take their
seats
Will the Sergeants clear
the aisle
The Convention will please be in oe
order
7 This is one of the highlights of
this Convention as 1 indicated to
you that it would be and am happy and proud and it is indeed a
privilege this morning to present to
you not only the Vice President in S
District S this
who will Chair this ne
part of our program but who is also
the Chairman of our National
Safety Committee Vice President
Cox
Jack Cox
mew
Applause)
f
COMMITTEE
CHAIRMAN Ie
COX Thank you Mr. Chairman
EEDINGS EEDINGS
of the
.
General
General Convention Convention
.
of the
Brotherhood of
Allied Trades
ia - September 9-13 1974
that that
ince
it was not always this we now the laborers the servers and the host
way
were
obvi-
icic fouulslyforwas not us but we are grate-
the long journey that we
have made rather successfully from
the early dreams of organized labor
through the craft unions through
m .S en like Samuel Gompers and John
L. Lewis looking to budding giants
like the American Federation of
eatin,
Labor and then finallfinyally the merger of 5
me. AFL and CIO
merger
men ilustrates This meeting this great meeting
illustrates that we indeed have come A a long long way and some day +
the collective strength of organized
unions organized labor will more
than rival that of management and the executive branches of our gov-
ernment and we will then be able
to negotiate and to engage in dia-
logue as equals complete equals
rather than as persons asking for
favors
:
asking
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17
Remembering this past when we
a group of little people came to-
gether and formed a giant we hope that we never forget that we are no larger than the smallest indi-
vidual
Recent events on our national
scale have suggested that perhaps giants get out of touch with little
people from time to time and fail
to represent them adequately
When we some day become not only bastions of strength but also of leadership may we never forget
from whence we came and may we never lose contact with the smallest man on the scale
May all of our endeavors be to this end and may we ask your guid-
ance in carrying this out
Amen
GENERAL PRESIDENT RAF-
TERY Will the Delegates take their
seats
Will the Sergeants clear
, the aisle .
The Convention will please be in
order
ry
This is one of the highlights of
this Convention as I indicated to you that it would be and I am hap-
py and proud and it is indeed a privilege this morning to present to you not only the Vice President in this District who will Chair this
part of our program but who is also the Chairman of our National
Safety Committee Vice President Cox
Jack Cox
Applause
COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN
COX Thank you Mr. Chairman
We have been in progress for considerable period of time in put-
ting together program that we
feel is of vital interest to you as individual representatives of your Local Unions and District Councils
for and on behalf of the membership
of your Local Unions
would like to have your full
attention this morning This program will take approximately one
hour and 50 minutes
I know many of you sitting in the hall this morning have already tak-
en your medical exams I think you
will agree that they are extremely thorough in what they are doing I know you realize that there is a
purpose behind this The exams that you have taken and the infor-
mation of such is strictly between
you and the doctors not to us But
we have a purpose because we wish
to find out what is occurring with our members in the health and safety area within their jobs the materials they are using
Now we have the privilege to
work with a man that has unbelievable energy Dr. Selikoff from the
Mount Sinai Hospital in New York
The man continues to amaze me how fast he can accumulate what
I would call evidence within our
health field and feed it back to us
so that the General President and the members of the General Exccu-
tive Board are up to date at all
times as to what is occurring with
new materials on the market
what may be destructive to a glazier or a floor layer in his everyday work and which we have found have occurred what is occurring to the taper and the painter which we find is occurring and which you are going to see this morning in this
program something that quite
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frankly I am = sure you will find
shocking
realize how little I knew what was occurring in the field with our mem-
It is not the intent and purpose
to lay before you a program to
bership and quite frankly I was
shocked with what I found
shock you into wondering what you
I could not believe that these
should do in your work day but to lay before you a program of facts of what is occurring in our industry so that you as representatives will
things are happening and when it is presented to you you probably will not either But gentlemen the
facts laid before you are correct and
return to your home areas and put forth your efforts to protect your members in the health and safety
field
the truth
,
At this time I would like to call upon the General President Emeri-
Without asking I know you will
agree with me after you have seen this program and heard the pro-
tus for a report Now I did a little background on this gentleman and I find that this is his 12th Convention He attended his first one in
gram the necessity of fulfilling your 1921. 53 years ago and this man
duties and of your cooperation we has never stopped beating the
m
need of working with us so that we drums and particularly in the field
can extend our investigation in order of health and safety It is a pleasure
to protect these members
to introduce him at this time Larry
Now for many months we have
had a joint committee working in the field of health and safety and
on that committee I would like to
read to you the names and I am sure will know most of them
We were honored to have our
General President Emeritus Larry
Raftery serving on the Committee
as Chairman with me General
Vice President James Wolford General Vice President William Duval Bill Duval Director of Legislation John Pecoraro and Busi-
ness Representative John Alfaronc of the Tapers Local 1974 in New York City
On Management's side we had Glen Craven the Executive Dircctor of the PDCA Avery Boyd Chairman of PDCA's Safety Com-
mittee out of Alabama Earl Dixon
of the Carpet Linoleum Layers Association in Denver Colorado and Chuck Haynes of PPG
Raftery
Standing applause)
PRESIDENT EMERITUS RAF-
TERY From its very inception our Brotherhood has had a deep sense of concern about the health and safety conditions prevailing on the job sites where our members work as well as a more general interest in improving working conditions throughout our
industry as a whole
Our Brotherhood is determined
and fully committed to correcting
the hazardous conditions of the
working environment to prevent sickness disease injuries and deaths among our membership in the United States and Canada
Many employers have a deep
and sincere concern for their work-
ers health and safety However unfortunately a view prevails in some portions of our industry that
a job means the lives of workers
did not take me very long to
or parts of their bodies lungs
livers kidneys legs arms eyes aTC
INTERNATIONAL BROTHERHOOD OF
expendable for profit in the work place and in exchange for a job
In contrast our position is that the employer must provide a safe place to work and local unions
and international unions have the
right to insist on the most effective
ways to protect the health of its members
.
safety
and
We believe that the man on the
job is entitled to know the complete facts about the safety and health
problems to which he is exposed
and the most effective way to prevent and control them
Dr. Irving J. Selikoff of the Mt. Sinai Hospital School of Medicine
in New York whom as you well know our Brotherhood has been
cooperating with stated that of the
approximately 500,000 workers
now or previously employed with
asbestos 100.000 will die of lung cancer 3,500 of abdominal or chest
cancers
mesotheliomas
and
about 35,000 of asbestosis scar-
ring of the lungs
All of this makes a frightening account The point however is not to be frightened but to do some-
thing about it
it None of it is inevitable none of
it is necessary The time has come to see to it that workers in our coun-
try live healthy lives To say this plainly to see to it that workers live
long enough to collect their pen-
sions
_
It's like a major war going on all the time The casualties aren't
fighting however just trying to make a living
is Every citizen of the United States is guaranteed the rights to life lib-
erty and the pursuit of happiness Working under dirty dangerous
TROENERAL TROENERAL CONVENTION
in
USC to
realize how little 1 knew whatwhat was ,
occurring in the field with our mem-
was hership and quite frankly I was
shocked with what I found
will either corect .00 tS CES
trv vill
out
I could not believe that these
things are happening and when it
is presented to you you probably
But gentlemen ,
the
facts laid
laid
before you arecorrect
and
and
the truth
Our
.
background sty
At this time I would like to call
upon the General President Emeri-
tus for a report Now I did a little
=
on this gentleman and
5485335 I find that this is his 12th Conven-
0- tion He attended his first one in
5485335 1921 53 years ago and this man
5485335 has never stopped beating the 5485335 drums and particularly in the field
5485335 of health and safety It is a pleasure
to introduce him at this time, Larry
Raftery
Standing applause)
e PRESIDENT EMERITUS RAF-
TERY From its very inception our Brotherhood has had a deep sense of . concern about the health and safety
Conditions prevailing on the job sites here our members work as well as
^
^ more general interest in improving
working conditions throughout our throughout
industry as a whole
Our Brotherhood is determined
and fully committed to correcting the hazardous conditions of the
working environment to prevent
sickness disease injuries and
deaths among our membership in
the United States and Canada
Many employers have a deep and sincere concern for their work-
ers health and safety However
unfortunately a view prevails in some portions of our industry that
a job means the lives of workers
or parts of their bodies lungs
livers kidneys legs arms eyes are
INTERNATIONAL INTERINTNERNATIONAL AINTTEIRNOATNIOANALL BROTHERHOOD BROTHERHBOROTOHERHDOOD OF PAINTERS AND ALLIED TRADES
6
r)
expendable for profit in the work
and in exchange for a job
place
In contrast our position is that
the employer must provide a safe
place to work and focal unions
and international unions have the right to insist on the most effective
ways to protect the safety and
health of its members
We believe that the man on the
job is entitled to know the complete facts about the safety and health
problems to which he is exposed
and the most effective way to pre-
vent and control them
Dr. Irving J. Selikoff of the Mt. Sinai Hospital School of Medicine
in New York whom as you well
know our Brotherhood has been
cooperating with stated that of the approximately 500,000 workers now or previously employed with asbestos 100,000 will die of lung
cancer 3,500 of abdominal or chest
cancers
mesotheliomas
and
about 35,000 of asbestosis scar-
ring of the lungs
All of this makes a frightening account The point however is not to be frightened but to do something about it
None of is is inevitable none of
it is necessary The time has come to see to it that workers in our coun-
try live healthy lives To say this plainly to see to it that workers live long enough to collect their pen-
sions
It's like a major war going on all
the time The casualties aren't
fighting however just trying to
make a living
Every citizen of the United States is guaranteed the rights to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness Working under dirty dangerous
'
and unhealthy conditions is an infringement of these basic rights
Through long years of struggle and
effort workers have established the
right to organize themselves for collective bargaining with their ,cmployers over wages benefits and conditions of employment
Although the Occupational Safety and Health Act of 1970 guaran-
tees that every worker in a union
on not has the right to file a complaint without being discriminated against by the employer in reality it is the rare individual standing
alone unsupported by an organiza-
tion of his fellow workers who
will use this right
Despite the guarantee against discrimination the fear of reprisal will keep individual workers from using OSHA In addition when dealing with a huge government
structure the most effective way to
cut through red tape and utilize the benefits of the law is through another structure a union
Our experience has shown that when a local union attempting to enforce safety and health laws channels their complaint through our International they have the as-
surance that our International will
follow through every step of the way prepared to fight for enforce-
ment This is the way the law can be
used most effectively
When the Occupational Safety and Health Act was first proposed
our Brotherhood was among the
other Internationals spearheading the movement for enactment of the proposal It wasn't easy Each
standard that became part of the
law had to be fought over each rule was contested Most importantly sufficient funds had to be appropriated for inspectors testing
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> PROCEEDINGS OF THE TWENTY GENERAL CONVENTION
facilities research and that enforcement of the be possible
so on so
Act would
by If the government is swayed
the influence of the business com-
ravel some of the mysteries of the
harm to humans from chemicals via
the work of Dr. Irving J. Selikoff
of the Mount Sinai School of Medi-
cinc in New York
munity then we must see that
4. Our Brotherhood's work in
through our International we exert safety glazing was started late in
a counter influence
1969 and it is one of the most
e: We must see to it that no one unique legislative experiences un-
has to pay any price in health dertaken by any union group Our
me
safety or dignity for trying to earn Brotherhood assumed a leadership
se
tee role in the National Safety Glazing
a decent living
Committee This Committee in-
When OSHA went into effect on cludes members of the glass indus-
April 28. 1971 our General President Bud Raftery said Organ-
ized labor must shoulder much of
the responsibility for realizing the full potential of this Act Our efforts must include the work site the State Legislature the Congress and the Executive Departments responsible for its conduct We must equip
ourselves to understand and use in-
telligently and with discernment the
important protections and rights which are provided for workers by
the Act
try government safety groups and other related organizations
Our Safety Glass Bill is now law in 33 states covering 92 percent of the population of the United
States
Our Brotherhood's work in safe-
ty was recognized in a national award presented to General President Raftery by the National Council on Safety at their annual convention held in Chicago in 1972
Besides the also legislative our
Brotherhood has also been involved
on other fronts
Shortly after the enactment of
OSHA an eight National
Joint Safety and Health Committee
was established with General Vice
1. Through collective bargaining many locals have been able to
pursue better job enlight- condi-
. tions thanks primarily to enlightened cooperation from management in the painting and coating indus-
.
President Cox as Chairman myself as Honorary Chairman General Vice President Duval General Vice President Wolford Director of Legislation Pecoraro and including others that have been mentioned by
Vice President Cdx
2. Through union education we have sought to close the gap between safety in theory and safety in practice making sure that as many members as possible not only know but use the latest safety Techniques
3. Now through medical science our Brotherhood hopes to un-
One of our first acts upon meet-
ing was to revise and update our Brotherhood's Play It Safe manual This manual is designed to insure that workers employed in construc tion jobs and plants receive the ben-
efits of the latest advances in safe-
ty equipment and have job standards that meet the requirements of
OSHA
INTERNATIONAL BROTHERHOOD OF PA
Play It Safe is a most popular safety manual Our manual is bc-
ing used by the staffs of 35 labor
education programs in universities
throughout the United States
Going further General President Raftery recognized that it would be to the mutual benefit of the major producers of paint products and our Brotherhood if some additional areas could be explored
The National Paint Coating Association representing manufacturers who produce 95 percent of all paint
products endorsed President Raftery's concept A committee was formed pledging cooperation in
efforts to minimize health and safe-
ty hazards
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On
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ph
cas mc
lev .be
the
ru
,
of
Some of the areas the Joint Com----
mittee is working on are
29
th 1. Reformulations
2 Development of OSHA and
11
safety programs
3. Development of continuing programs regarding federal legisla-
tion on coatings and resins
4. Participation in lead poisoning detection programs
5. And any other related areas
One of our outstanding programs is the work being done with Dr. Selikoff We are providing staff assistance record management.com- management.computer department cooperation field staff and local union participation
.
Ongoing research is now being conducted in the analysis of mortality experiences and in assessing long-
terni effects of hazardous exposures
Particular reference is being given to the detection of possible toxic ef fects from introduced materials such as exotic paints special
WENTY THIRD GENERAL GENERAL CONVENTION
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ould
1 by
11771-
ravel some of the mysteries of the harm to humans from chemicals via
the work of Dr. Irving J. Selikoff
of the Mount Sinai School of Medi-
cine New York
that Wert
One
1th
arn
on
esiaan1 of
the efthe and
4. Our Brotherhood's work in safety glazing was started late in
1969 and it is one of the most
unique legislative experiences undertaken by any union group Our Brotherhood assumed a leadership
role in the National Safety Glazing
Committee This Committee in-
cludes members of the glass industry government safety groups and other related organizations
Our Safety Glass Bill is now law
in
in 33 states covering 92 percent of the population of the United States
... Our Brotherhood's work in safe-
quip
in-
ty was recognized in a national award presented to General Presi-
the dent Raftery by the National Coun-
cil on Safety at their annual con-
-! vention held in Chicago in 1972
our
ved
tin-
: /
idight-
cnt us-
Shortly after the enactment of
OSHA an eight National Joint Safety and Health Committee
was established with General Vice
President Cox as Chairman myself as Honorary Chairman General
Vice President Duval General Vice President Wolford Director of Leg-
islation Pecoraro and including
by others that have been mentioned
Vice President Cox
4317
teety
as
nly
ety
iC.Jn-
ing One of our first acts upon meet-
ing was to revise and update our
Brotherhood's Play It Safe manual
This manual is designed to insure
that workers employed in construc-
tion jobs and plants receive the ben-
efits of the latest advances in safe-
y equipment and have job standards that meet the requirements of
OSHA
INTERONA TIPINAL TIPINAL BRONEERICARDION BRONEERICARDION OF PAINTERS AND ALLIED TRADES
177
Play It Safe is a most popular
safety manual Our manualis being used by the staffs of 35 labor education programs in universities
throughout the United States
Going further General President Raftery recognized that it would be to the mutual benefit of the major
producers of paint products and our Brotherhood if some additional
areas could he explored
The National Paint Coating Asso-
ciation representing manufacturers who produce 95 percent of all paint
products endorsed President Raft-
ery's concept A committee was formed pledging cooperation in
efforts to minimize health and safe-
ty hazards
Some of the areas the Joint Committee is working on are
1 Reformulations
a
2. Development of safety programs
OSHA
and
3. Development of continuing
programs regarding federal legisla-
tion on coatings and resins
coatings spray paints and new solv-
cals
Why do we do these surveys One reason is the danger of the workplace Only accidents extreme
exposures to toxic substances and
physical hazards result in acute easily identifiable illnesses But most workers are exposed to low
levels of these agents which may
be just as deadly in the long run though less apparent in the short
run
Exposure to level agents can
cause chronic illnesses The onset of these illnesses is often not no-
ticed Therefore they go unrecog-
nized uncounted and uncompensated
We want to put a stop to all this nonsense We want to search out
those dangerous areas and remove
them
The focus and main thrust of our health and safety demonstration today is on chemicals used in our in-
dustry and the exposure of workers
to toxic dusts fumes mists and
gases
4. Participation in lead poisoning detection programs
5. And any other related areas
For years attention has been on
accidents on what you can see happen the loss of an arm a leg an eye and the loss of life
One of our outstanding programs is the work being done with Dr. Selikoff We are providing staff as-
sistance record management computer department cooperation field
staff and local union participation Ongoing research is now being conducted in the analysis of mortality
experiences and in assessing long-
term effects of hazardous exposures Particular reference is being given to the detection of possible toxic effects from introduced materials such as exotic paints special
The accidents are sudden the effects are immediate and you can see and recognize the physical cause
that was responsible
What we are concentrating on today is what you cannot see materials that the microscope measures and the laboratory analyzes
The harmful effects of these
chemicals can be just as disastrous just as disabling just as permament and death just as certain
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PROCEEDINGS OF THE TWENTY GENERAL CONVENTION
INTERNATIONAL BROTHERHOOD OF 1
The serious findings of cancer
and cirrhosis of the liver among
workers in vinyl chloride operations a comparatively new process illustrates the need for continu-
ous studies
These findings now pose a ques-
tion that affects all workers How many other health hazards exist or
have gone unrecognized during the
will be the safest place to work
and
healthiest
Thank you
( Applause )
COMMITTEE
CHAIRMAN
COX Thank you President Emeri-
tus Raftery for your remarks and
your continued dedication on behalf
of our Brotherhood members
trol or die of a fatal disease or acci- 5. /
dent because awaited inspec- in
tions are made only after the body 0
is carried away
ci
The statistics of his research are
not just numbers They represent EL EL
human beings working people do- J. ing their job sometimes at the cost
of their lives
past 30 to 40 years
The point is if industry does not know if government does not know if we as labor leaders do
not know how is the average work-
er going to know
Now Brothers we would like to
move the program right along If time permits after Dr. Selikoff's
presentation we are going to open the floor for questions as you may
have some on your mind after hear-
He has transformed computer tapes and research plans into flesh .
and blood through hope and kind-
Fa ness His works include the discovery
of the link between toxic materials
Worse yet how will these harm-
ful
ful effects be recognized and identified How will industry labor and
the government ever know unless
these industries are investigated and
studied
ing and seeing what Dr. Selikoff will
present to you
If time does not permit because of our schedule then we will not open it up and we hope it will so
we can move along
in the workplace and disease His li
success has been in the treatment
of those diseases and his hope in
the elimination of them
35
In every important development in the field of occupational safety
The fact is man has created a
new environment but he has not
tes created a new man We still have
the
mewn that
same physical
our ancestors
characteristics had we still
need clean air to breathe and clean
Now as you know there is always
a work horse that we use and we
turn to in order to provide for us information that we need daily and
our work horse is in the person of
one man
ge water to drink We have developed
no second sight that tells us when a seemingly harmless vapor is doing
At this time I would like to introduce to you for him to introduce Dr.
ome insidious damage to our health There are many things that can
Selikoff our Director of Legislation
John Pecoraro
ee he done to make your workplace
safe and based on our survey we
DIRECTOR PECORARO It is
an honor and a privilege for me to
will present suggestions on how to introduce to you today a man whom
achieve this
we greatly admire not only as a
and health in the last decade he has
been vitally involved in black lung
among the miners and similar dis-
403 eases among other workers More recently he has been in the
wh forefront of the important reve-
lations about vinyl chloride and has
eres battled valiantly for the cause of
worker safety in the highest offices
of our nation
C
We are extremely proud and men
pleased to have his guidance in our Brotherhood's program of job safe-
ty
When I was installed as General President Emeritus I took a vow that I would dedicate the remainder
of my life on behalf of safety and ask all of you to join with us in
guide but as a loyal friend and teach-
er ^ man who gets emotional about unnecessary avoidable disease discases suffered by workers workers
who are simply trying to do their job
* President Raftery has declared that this is going to be the decade of job safety in our Brotherhood and
our determination combined with
the expertise of our next guest will make it so
our battle for safety and health
He actually gets angry that workers should die of cancer because they
It my extreme pleasure to pre-
If you study and put to use our must handle chemicals in factories
sent to this Convention the holder
recommendations then we are con- or die of silicosis because of dust
of the Lasker Award of the Ameri-
K
fielent that with your help America nobody bothered to collect and con-
can Public Health Association the
highest award the highest award
a
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GENERAL GENERAL CONVENTION CONVENTION CONVENTION
incer
nong
wd Proc-
tau.
will be the safest safest
place work
Thank you
( Applause
anadnd
hheaelatlhitehsitest
INTERNATIONAL BROTHERHOOD DE PAINTERS
.
AND
ALLIED
TRADES
170
troolr die of a fatal disease or acci-
dent because awaited inspec-
tions are made only after the body
is carried away
that can be given to any scientist in the field of medical research the Director of Environmental Medi-
cine of the Mount Sinai School of
Hes-
low or
the
COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN
COX Thank you President Emeri-
tus
Raftery for your remarks
and
your
of
continued
dedication
on
behalf
our Brotherhood members
The statistics of his research are
not just numbers They represent human beings working people doing their job sometimes at the cost
of their lives
Medicine and friend of all working
people in America my good friend
indeed our good friend Dr. Irving
J. Selikoll
;
Applause )
Now
Brothers not
we would like
He has transformed computer
DR SELIKOFF I will shortly
HotHot move the program right along tIof
tapes and research plans into flesh review with you some of the proh-
do time permits after Dr.
and blood through hope and kind- lems in the painting trades that we
Selikoff's ork- presentation we are going to
ness
have been reviewing with your
the floor for questions as
open
people in this past year
have some on your mind you may
His works include the discovery
m- ing and seeing what Dr. Sealfitkeorffhewairl-l
of the link between toxic materials
in the workplace and disease His
Before I do however I would like to precede what I am going to
ati- present to you
ind
success has been in the treatment say with a preview
If time does not
ess
of
permit because
our schedule then we will
of those diseases and his hope in
the elimination of them
We have with us this morning Dr.
nd open it up and we
not
Justin Stein President of the Amer-
we can move along hope it will so
In every important development ican Cancer Society
of Now Now ,
the field occupational safety
Dr. Stein is a remarkable man in
i
as you know there is always a work
and health in the last decade he has many ways First he is a native
i 5
_ horse that we use and we
been vitally involved in black lung of Los
son
formation to in order to provide for us in-
among the miners and similar dis
Angeles having been here
formation that we need daily and
our work horse is in the
eases among other workers
at the University of California for
the last 41 years and been involved
one man
the person of
More recently he has been in the in cancer control and cancer re-
duce At this time I would like to intro-
Selikoff Selikof you for him to introduce Dr. Selikoff our Director of LegislationLeLgeLeiggissliatlisonlaattiioonn John Pecoraro
DIRECTOR PECORARO It is an honor a privilege for introduce to you today a man wmheotmo
we greatly admire not only as a guide but as a loyal friend and teach-
er a man who gets emotional about
unnecessary disease sufferedavoidable .
by simply
eases who who who are are are
job simply trying 1
dis-
workers , workers trying
simply
their
job
to do their
He actually gets angry that work-
ers should die of cancer because
must handle chemicals in
they
or die of silicosis becausefaocftodruisest
nobody bothered to collect and con-
forefront of the important revelations about vinyl chloride and has
search for this time He himself suffered from a virulent almost invari-
battled valiantly for the cause of ably fatal kind of cancer that goes
worker safety in the highest offices by the name of reticulum cell sar-
of our nation
e We are extremely proud and
me pleased to have his guidance in our
Brotherhood's program of job safe-
.
ty
coma 29 years ago and he was
successfully treated In other words he is a cured cancer patient
With this background he joined the American Cancer Society as a
President Raftery has declared that this is going to be the decade of job safety in our Brotherhood and
volunteer 24 years ago because he as so many others felt that we have to conquer cancer in our lifetimes
our determination combined with
the expertise of our next guest will
make it so
As sit in places like this with friends and with happiness and ideas and comfort we sometimes don't re-
It my extreme pleasure to present to this Convention the holder
of the Lasker Award of the Ameri-
alize because it is out of sight the tragic toll that cancer is taking in our country
can Public Health Association the
Many of us don't realize for ex-
highest award the highest award ample that this year 1974 we are
250
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losing 200 deaths a day of lung
cancer
In 1974 we now have 250 new cases a day of cancer of the colon
This is simply a disaster what is happening in our country
Well it is the remarkable efforts
of this society and my experience
with them it's a society with guts
You have to have guts I think to
take on a problem such as cancer
but they have always let the chips fall where they may
They had no hesitation for example in taking on the giant tobacco industry as you know and they have no hesitation in reaching out to solve the problems of cancer in the work place
Sometimes when somebody tells me that I have been practicing for over 41 years and realizing I am getting a little older I think of a Statement made by Jimmy Durante on reaching an advanced age
.He said If would have known
I was going to live so long I would
have took better care of myself
( Laughter *
It is a great pleasure for me President and on behalf of the
Board of Directors of the American
Cancer Society to bring to you the greetings of this Society which is the largest volunteer health agency in
the world which is political
with over 2.250.000 volunteers of whom 50.000 are physicians
made a study using 68.000 volun-
teers from this Society
H
The habits and life stvics of Ci
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these more than 1,000,000 individ-
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uals has been tabulated including
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the history of industrial exposures
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and the replies to many other ques-
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We have maintained a study of ti
. 95 percent of this over 1,000.000 ud
enrollees those who are now living R
and tremendous points are being ti
found which are going to be of great ti
help to all of you
f
In 1971 the Board of Directors
k of the American Cancer Society es-
tablished an Environmental Cancer
Research Project to study the en-
vironmental causes of cancer Your
union has been most helpful in par-
Dr. Stein has other firsts to his
credit not only the first Cancer Society's President who himself had what is usually an incurable form of
cancer he is also the first President
of the Society who served when in a
It is the policy of this Society to award research project grants insti-
tutional research grants grants in support of research personnel and to
conduct research on epidemiology of
cancer
ticipating in this project
Our Society is happy to make
available its statistical services and the services of its volunteers to
your union The estimated value of
this contribution is 250,000
year which for the first time the Can-
cer Society has raised 100 million
to be used now for cancer control
The overall goals for research for
cancer control includes prevention
cure and other means for control
comeges
And finally he is the first Presi-
Now this Society has had a great
dent of the American Cancer Soci- record in the field of epidemoliogi-
oe
ety who has addressed a great and cal research..
major labor union in the United
States
In 1952 a study was made on
188.000 men between the
of we
ages
So with all these firsts I introduce 50 and 59 22,000 volunteers from
Drs Hammond and Selikoff have met often with President Raftery of your union It is important to know now which chemicals and potential
carcinogens to which individuals
are exposed in the course of their
daily occupations Sometimes it
takes from 10 to 15 or 30 or more
years after exposure to certain agents before the hazards and the
to you a remarkable man Dr. Jus- our society participated in this
harmful effects are known
ome tin Stein of Los Angeles
( Applause DR STEIN President Emeritus
study The study was made to evaluate the effects of cigarette smoking
a
Four years later over 99 percent of the living individuals were still
Dr. Hammond and Dr. Selikoff
are actively engaged in the environ- mental study of vinyl chloride asbestos and of the many chemicals
Rattery President Raftery Vice under study and as a result of
and carcinogens to which workers
President Cox Dr. Selikoff Officers this the results of cigarette smoke
are constantly being exposed
=
=e and Delegates to this 23rd Conven- ing in relation to lung cancer wefe
You will hear more later from
Tena t of the International Brother very definitely shown
Dr. Selikalf who has been
hood of Painters and Allied Trades
In 1959 thus Society enrolled
1
very
active in epidemiological cancer 10
Ladies and Gentlemen
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Sometimes
Sometimes statement when somebody tells
me that that have been practicing for
41
over
years and realizing am
getting a little older I think of
a
made by Jimmy Durante on reaching an advanced
age
age
lloorrttss
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guts
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long He s saaiidd If would going was
was going to livelive so
have took better care
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have have known knownknown I would
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greetings
this
plepalseausruree ffoorr me as
on behalf of
of the American
to
bring bring
tto oyou
thethe
greetings of this Society which is the
largest volunteer health agency in
with world which is political
with over 2,250.000 volunteers
.
whwhoomm50.000 are physicianvoslunteers of
his
50-
of
atuionalwaarwdard epidemiologyinsti- is the policy of this Society to
research project grants
tutional research
support
research
grants grants
.
grants
in
support of research
.
conduct research on pepeidemriologseypiodenmionloegyl and to
cancer
of
The overall goals for research for
on
cancer
cure
control
includes
prevention
and other means for control
Now ;
record
this Society has had a great
record epidemoliogi- ;
in the field of
77 cal research
epidemoliogi-
77
1952 a study was made on
188.000188.000 50 and men between the ages of
50
volunteers :
59. 22.000
from
.. our society participated in this
study The study was made to
ate the effects of cigarette smoekvailnug-
Four years later over 99 e
or the living individuals percent
under
were still
study and as a result of
e the
of cigarette smok-
this resultss hown definitely se in relation to
very
lung cancer
cancer
were
were
In
over
1959 this 1,000,000
Society enrolled
individuals and
INTERNATIONAL BROTHERHOOD BROTHERHOOD PAINERS AND ALLIED TRADES TRADES
AT
muude a study using 68,000 volunteers from this Society
The habits and life styles of these more than 1,000,000 individuals has been tabulated including the history of industrial exposures and the replies to many other questions ;
We have maintained a study of
95 percent of this over 1,000,000
enrollees those who are now living and tremendous points are being found which are going to be of great help to all of you
In 1971 the Board of Directors of the American Cancer Society established an Environmental Cancer
Research Project to study the en-
vironmental causes of cancer Your
union has been most helpful in participating in this project
Our Society is happy to make
available its statistical services and
the services of its volunteers to
your union The estimated value of this contribution is 250,000
Drs Hammond and Selikoff have
met often with President Raftery of your union It is important to know now which chemicals and potential carcinogens to which individuals are exposed in the course of their daily occupations Sometimes it
takes from 10 to 15 or 30 or more
years after exposure to
agents before the hazards harmful effects are known
certain and the
Dr. Hammond and Dr. Selikoff
are actively engaged in the environmental study of vinyl chloride asbestos and of the many chemicals and carcinogens to which workers are constantly being exposed
You will hear more later from Dr. Sclikoff who has been very
active in epidemiological cancer re-
search
|
has been stated by the World Health Organization that 85 percent all cancers originate from en-
vironmental causes In other words
the majority of cancers are caused by what we do to ourselves excessive exposure to sunlight smoking of cigarettes the type of diet we
consume the use of food preserva-
tives contaminants to our lungs from the atmosphere exposure to many agents as a result of our occupations to chemicals in the preparation of many things we use and so
forth
There are over 100 different
kinds of cancer The different types
of cancer may have different bio-
logical methods of spread different etiologies and may require different
methods of treatment or combinations of treatment
Since cancer does not represent
a single disease but a whole group of diseases it is not reasonable to anticipate that a single cause will be found for all types of cancer This Society represents you the consumers and a major effort to control and or to prevent cancer
The use of volunteers will reduce the cost and increase the effective-
ness of epidemiological research
programs
We delighted to be able to he of service to you and we wel come your support in the Society's
efforts to control cancer Thank you
Applause )
COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN
COX Thank you Dr. Stein We
are deeply honored to have you with us this morning
It is a privilege sir for us to have before this Brotherhood and de-
liver your message
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I am going to ask Dr. Selikoff to
take the mike on the floor
eralogist Dr. Langer to see what is in the lung
Dr. Selikoff are you ready to have the lights dimmed
DR SELIKOFF Yes
COMMITTEE COX Will you
lights and turn please
CHAIRMAN
please dim
the camera
the on
May I have the first slide please
We did And we found that in
Mr. Esposito's lung there were lit-
erally billions
statistically we
would say that he had 10 to 12 fibers
in his lungs That's over a billion billion fibers of asbestos in Mr. Es-
posito's lungs
Now Brothers let's have your immediate attention with no talk
please as you are going to find the importance of the message that Dr. Selikoff is going to bring forth very
The surgeon successfully removed
the tumor but unfortunately it had
spread and nine months later he
had died
.
interesting so we ask your attention and indulgence in this please
Dr. Selikoff
We got a bit of a shock with this
Now let me tell you in these next
few minutes why it was an unhappy
shock
DR SELIKOFF About a year and a half ago John Alfarone of
May I have the next slide please
your Local 1974 came up to see me
I didn't know John but I soon
mie found that like so many leaders in
your Union he was direct When he
oct had something to say he said it and
Fifty years ago it was found that scarring of the lung these lines here indicating would occur when people inhaled fine asbestos fibers
he made no bones about it
e When I say fine I would like
And what he said presented a you to understand that you just
ytimena problem to me that we just hadn't
thought about John said There's a man in the taping business in New
can't even see these with a micoscope You need an electron microscope to see them There are about
ea York who is in the hospital now
with a lung cancer
a million within an inch They range around in our lingo around 350 Angstroms in diameter
His name was Esposito I think
ee
is Sal Esposito
Next slide please
+
And he said He is going to be operated and the men in the local have a hunch that maybe the dusts that he's been working with had something to do with the can-
CUT
said Fine We will try to help
you We will look into it Tell the *** that when he removes the fung to send the specimen to our
laboratory and I will ask our mun-
We found also in these next 30 or
40 years that very often the covering the lung would often get scarred
also That's these white lines here
indicating ..
This is calcification of the pleura
Now you know of pleurisy that's the covering of the lung and the lining of the chest and technically - am going to give you a few technical words , technically this is
INTERNATIONAL BROTHERHOOD OF P.
known as the mesothelium That is
what we call the lining of the chest
Next slide please
This is a post mortem You are looking down at a body now on the post mortem table
You see these placques Whenever somebody has breathed in asbestos why we don't know but the lining of the chest as well as the lung itself gets these scars indicat-
ing
ol
Bp. Next slide please
Sometimes the scarring is very dif- rig
fuse as you see here indicating ;
Next slide please
is And at post mortem this how
thick that pleura was This man
... died He was a Business Agent of the
Asbestos Workers in New York He died because his lung just couldn't
move anymore because of this thick
scar Indicating)
Next slide please
One of the most important things
we learned as we looked into this
with the Pipe Coverers in New York Local 12 and Local 32 in Newark
is on the screen now and if you for-
get everything I say this morning and
only remember this slide you will know pretty much what I know
For example out of the 725 men who had begun work less than 20
years before most had normal X-
rays And when they were abnorm-
al not very much so
On the other hand once the 20
years point had passed most had abnormal rays after 40 years 90
percent had abnormal rays and very often the abnormality was ex-
tensive
ret
NTY THE GENERAL GENERAL CONVENTION CONVENTION CONVENTION
" cralogist Dr. Langer to see what is in the lung
May I have the first slide please
We did And we found that in
Mr. Esposito's lung there were lit-
crally billions
statistically we
would say that he had 10 to 12 fibers
in his lungs That's over a billion billion fibers of asbestos in Mr. Es-
posito's lungs
The surgeon successfully removed the tumor but unfortunately it had
spread and nine months later he had died
We got a bit of a shock with this
Now let me tell you in these next few minutes why it was an unhappy
shock
May have the next slide please
Fifty years ago it was found that scarring of the lung these lines here indicating would occur when : ople inhaled fine asbestos fibers
When I say fine I would like
you to understand that you just can't even see these with a mico-
scope You need an electron microscope to see them There are about
a million within an inch They range around in our lingo around 350 Angstroms in diameter
Next slide please
We found also in these next 30 or
40 years that very often the covering
of the lung would often get scarred
also That's these white lines here
indicating indicating
This is calcification of the pleura Now you know of pleurisy that's
the covering of the lung and the lining of the chest and technically
-I am going to give you a few
technical technically this is
INTERNATIONAL INTERNATIONAL INTERNATIONAL BROTUERIDOL OF PAINTERS PAINTERS ANDE ALLIED TRADES TRADES
1833
known as the mesothelium That is
what we call the liging of the chest
Next slide please
This is a post mortem
looking down at a body
the post mortem table
You
now
are on
You see these placques Whenever somebody has breathed in asbestos why we don't know but the tining of the chest as well as the lung itself gets these scars indicating
Next slide please
Sometimes the scarring is very diffuse as you see here indicating
Next slide please
And at post mortem this is how thick that pleura was This man died He was a Business Agent of the Asbestos Workers in New York He
died because his lung just couldn't
move anymore because of this thick
scar Indicating
This gives point to what Dr. Stein has just said that many of the things in our environment many of the things that you work with won't show any effect at all for 20 or more
years
We have been very apprehensive
in these last two days as we have ex-
amined many of you
Incidentally your response has been remarkable We have already
examined almost 15 percent of all
the Delegates at this Convention
and the education that you have given us in these first two days has been a revelation to us
We have been very apprehensive when you have been telling us about what's been happening for example with epoxides because they were only introduced about 10 years ago we have been told and whatever they are going to do besides the acute effects we won't know for
another 10 years
Next slide please
most One of the
important things
we learned as we looked into this
with the Pipe Coverers in New York Local 12 and Local 32 in Newark
is on the screen now and if you for-
get everything I say this morning and only remember this slide you will know pretty much what I know
We had a surprise like this for example with your vinyl chloride You people have been working with vinyl paints made with polyvinyl chloride which is contaminated with vinyl chloride We have now been
finding cancers of the liver a cancer called hemangiosarcoma which is
invariably fatal rapidly fatal six
months
For example out of the 725 men who had begun work less than 20 years before most had normal Xrays And when they were abnormal not very much so
On the other hand once the 20
years point had passed most had abnormal rays after 40 years 90 percent had abnormal rays and very often the abnormality was ex-
tensive
We have been finding it in workers in the factories making vinyl chloride and using it but the average duration from the time they began work was over 20 years
So everything we have been seeing follows the year.rule That's what we found with the Pipe Covcrers in New York with regard to scarring on ray that nothing much happened until after 20 years
28-1 PROCEEDINGS OF THE TWENTY GENERAL CONVENTION
had passed from the time they began work
Next slide please
About 20 years ago it was shown
that something else happened when
you inhaled these fibers that's on the
screen now
For reasons that we don't know very often cancer of the lung would
scarring occur This is a cancer of the lung
in a man who has the fine
that I showed you before a worker who worked with asbestos
Next slide please
How often does it occur because after all anyone can get cancer of
the lung especially if he smoked cigarettes
( Applause
Thank you I'm glad that I have so many friends here
( Laughter
With the American Cancer Soci-
ety Statistical Department under Dr.
been Hammond we found that among the
632 men there should have
given their ages 203 deaths in the ordinary course of events had their experience been the same as everybody else's
deaths Instead there were 255
50 men died who were not expected
to die Why
Well there should have been six or seven deaths of cancer of the
lung There actually were 45 Seven times as many men died of
lung cancer as were expected to die Interestingly there should have
been nine deaths of cancer of the
colon stomach and rectum There
were 29 three times as many
You know as well as I that any-
one who inhales dust also ingests it
There of course were deaths due to scarred lungs or asbestosis
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The entire lung is covered with cu
mesothelioma tumor This is a
It CC
occurs virtually only if you inhale SC
asbestos
I cannot tell you why We only ne
know that it occurs
ho
Next slide please
For reasons that we don't know " be again and as I talk you will
amazed at how much we don't
know the fibers also get into the
abdomen and when they do they also affect the lining of the abdo-
i men the mesothelium of the abdomen and give a mesothelioma of the abdomen This is a construction t worker in New York with a
mesothelioma of the abdomen
Next slide please
At operation this is what it looked
all like All these nodules of cancer
over the abdomen and because it is so diffuse because it is all over it |
When President Mulhancy of the
Next slide please
Pipe Coverers asked about 30 years ago What's going to happen to my men who have been working with
= asbestos I think you knew him
well President Raftery he was told
cancer of Don't worry
Well we worried Let me tell you how we found out what
actually has been happening
Something else we found Remember L mentioned the pleura to
you the mesothelium We found that unexpectedly many of these tumors mesotheliomas which
means cancer of the lining of the
chest were occurring
This caused a lot of raised eyebrows because in general this was
is again invariably fatal
Next slide please
In 1963 until the end of Decem-
ber 1971 in New York the Ameri-
can Cancer Society found that there should have been among the 370
men still alive of the first group in 1963 there should have been an-
other 85 deaths statistically
Instead there were 168. Twice
This is a pipe coverer as you
know
1943 there were 632 members | in their Local in New York Re-
member what I said now 1943-
because if we wanted to know what
happened we had to have at least
20 years to look We have been
following all of the 632 men
very rare Somewhere around one out of 10,000 deaths ordinarily occurs with mesothelioma
Here was a man a pipe coverer with this white shadow on the left side of the chest
Next slide please
When he died this was what we found This tumor this white tu-
as many pipe coverers died in New
York as were expected to die from 1963 through 1971
Next slide please
All together out of the 632 men
who were in this union in 1943 by
the end of 1971 there should have
been EE deaths of lung cancer 84
occurred
Next slide please
mor covering the entire lung You are looking at a post mortem now
WX0002
There should have been no deaths
WX0002
of mesothelioma which never ve
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they
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hen the the
With the Anterican Cancer Society Statistical Department under Dr.
Hammond we found that among the 632 men there should have
behaednas given their ages 203 deaths in the
ordinary course of events
their experience been the
same as
everybody else's
11
Instead
50
there
died
uld 50 men died who
die
ing to die Why
were were
255 255 deaths .
expected
notnot exepxepcetcetded
lung ing
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Well there should have been or seven deaths of cancer of the
45 lung There actually were
Seven times as many men died of
sc
cancer as were expected to
lung of
Interestingly there should have
been ed
been nine deaths of cancer of the
colon stomach and rectum
were 29 three times as many
There
inhales ingests oneYowuhokninhales ow as wellwell as I that any-
ie
dust also
it
ee,
There of course were deaths due ees scarred lungs or asbestosis
n
Next slide please
S Something else we found Re-
te ,
I mentioned the pleura to
member you
,
the
mesothelium
We
found
unexpectedly many of these
mttheuaamtnosrs chest
mesotheliomas
cancer of the lining lining
were occurring
which of the
brows was This
caused caused
a
lot of
raised
raised
because in general this
very rare Somewhere around
out of 10,000 deaths ordinarily
curs with mesothelioma
ordinarily
eye-
one oc-
a Here wwa as s man a
pipe
ne
with
this
white
man a pipe coverer
with this fluid ee side of the white shadow on the left
Next slide please
eee
When he died this was what we
found This tumor this white tu-
e mor covering the entire lung You
mortem are looking at a
now
INTERNATIONAL BROTHERHOOD OF PAINTERS AND ALLIED ALLIED TRADES
.
The entire lung is covered with
tumor This is a mesothelioma It
occurs virtually only if you inhale asbestos .
I cannot tell you why We only
know that it occurs
;
Next slide please
For reasons that we don't know again and as I talk you will be amazed at how much we don't know the fibers also get into the abdomen and when they do they
also affect the lining of the abdo-
men the mesothelium of the abdo-
men and give a mesothelioma of the
abdomen This is a construction worker in New York with a mesothelioma of the abdomen
Next slide please
At operation this is what it looked
like All these nodules of cancer all over the abdomen and because it is
so diffuse because it is all over it is again invariably fatal
Next slide please
In 1963 until the end of December 1971 in New York the Ameri-
can Cancer Society found that there should have been among the 370
men still alive of the first group in 1963 there should have been another 85 deaths statistically
Instead there were 168. Twice as many pipe coverers died in New York as were expected to die from 1963 through 1971
Next slide please
All together out of the 632 men who were in this union in 1943 by
the end of 1971 there should have
been 11 deaths of lung cancer 84
occurred
There should have been no deaths of mesothelioma which never oc-
there were 32 and the cancers of the intestinal tract the
scarred lungs et cetera
This is simply a disaster I have no other way of describing it It is heartbreaking
Each of these men knows what is in store for him and I don't know what to do to prevent it
The dust that they inhaled in 1930 1940 1950 that dust is still in their lungs just like Mr. Esposi-
to in your International when he
was operated on and when he died the dust of ten years and twenty years before was still in his lungs
Next slide please
Industry said Well maybe that is something unusual in New York
We have therefore been studying
the entire International There were
17,800 insulation workers in the United States in 1967 and we have been following them
Of the 12,000 men who were in the trade for less than 20 years nothing much happened
On the other hand out of 5.000
men in the trade for more than 20
years we five died
of every and one
found one out of every
of lung cancer One out 15 died of mesothelioma
out of every ten died of
gastrointestinal cancer
Imagine One out of every five men in this trade dies of lung cancer and through no fault of their
own
They went to work each day expeeting that they would have a safe working place and they didn't
Next slide please
About ten years ago we got a second shock Dr. Newhouse at the
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PROCEEDINGS OF THE TWENTY GENERAL CONVENTION
London School of Hygiene looked
at 76 cases of mesothelioma member this only comes from as-
bestos virtually their files and they found that sure enough 31
had worked with asbestos in the factories but of the 45 who had not worked with asbestos nine had sim-
ply lived in the household of an asbestos worker
These were wives who had washed
their husbands clothes when they came home from work 11 out of the 76 had simply lived within a
half mile of one or another of the
asbestos factories in London
Those of you who have been examined may now realize why we have been asking you whether you wash your own clothes whether you take them home or not and if you
take them home who washes them
whether your clothes are washed with your kids clothes
Now you know the reason for that question that we have been ask-
ing you
Next slide please
You can understand then our dis-
may when looking at the construc-
tion industries we found that as-
bestos was being used under conditions in which it was actually being sprayed throughout your buildings
insulation Here for example is spraying of insulation on a building on Wall and
Water Street
But the other 25 percent went to all the other trades at your building sites
Next slide please
That was an iron worker
Here is a front end loader
Next slide please
Now you can see why we were
apprehensive with what we found in
the lung that John Alfarone brought
to us
.
I came to Washington and I checked with John Pecoraro and with your President Raftery and found what we were seeing in New
York was true around the country
The first thing we did was to look
at your materials that the tapers were
using and we were taught that not only your tapers use it but other trades painters and so forth can use spackle and other compounds
Dr. A. N. Rohl of our laboratory did an analysis of ten drywall taping and spakling compounds that the industry gave us through Mr.
Pecoraro and Mr. Alfarone
We found nine out of the ten con-
tained chrysotile Chrysotile is a name for one variety of asbestos
Nine out of ten compounds that were being used a year ago in New York contained asbestos Many also
contained quartz and mica and other
things which can destroy lungs
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Here it is being sprayed at the
World Trade Center We found that
it was pretty good work that almost
as much as 75 percent staved on the beams
actually
We then put our sampling devices on your people Here are three tapers in New York and here are the samplers that test how much
dust in the air #
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We got dust samples when you were doing dry mix work
ir
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Sanding
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f All kinds of hand finishing
Now I'm going to give you some technical information You have Pr
got to understand it It is tough
but you have got to know it It is
"
your life at stake
We are talking about 2. 3. 5
fibers per cc
What does that mean A cc or
thimble cubic millimeter is a
of
air A man inhales around 8 million
cc's a day 8 million thimblefuls of
air a day
The Department of Labor has
said that it is safe for a man to in-
hale 16 million million long fibers They don't count the short fibers even though there may be 100 times as many short ones as long ones million long fibers a day
and retain an unstudied percentage
So when you see two fibers per cc on the next slide we are talking about 16 million long fibers for a
day's respired air
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This is what we found Taping work mixing of drywall taping com-
pound produced almost 60 fibers
per cc That is about a billion fibers
in working day that a man would inhale
We found that in background to
dry mixing the legal limit is going to he two fibers per cc which is
too high 20 feet away it was still
13 fibers per cc or about 100 mil-
lion fibers in a working day
THIRD GENERAL
CONVENTION CONVENTION CONVENTION
But the other 25 percent went to
all
all the other trades at your building sites
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That was an iron worker
Here is a front end loader
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Now you why cancan see we we were apprehensive
apprehensive
apprehensive
with
were
with what found in we
tahpperleuhnegnsive that John Alfarone brought
I came to WashingtoWasnhington and with
checked with John
found your Pecoraro and in President Raftery and found what we were seeiseeningg New New York was truetrue around the
country
The first thing we did was
look
tapers were at your materials that the
using and we were taught that not
only your tapers use it but other
+es painters and so forth can use
_ kle and other compounds
did
Dr.
A. Rohl
analysis
of
our
laboratory
an analysis of ten drywall
did tap- and spakling compounds
ingthe industry gave us through
Pecoraro Mr. Alfarone
that Mr.
nine
We found the tained
nine out of
ten con- -
tained chrysotile Chrysotile is a
name for one variety of asbestos
NNiinene out of ten compounds that
York being York
contained
used a year ago in New contained asbestos Many also
things contained quartz and mica and other
things which can destroydestroy destroy lungs
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We
vices
then
put
our sampling de-
three on your people Here are
vicves ices in
York and here are
tapers New the samplers that
dust is in the air
test
how
much
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AND
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187
We got dust samples when you were doing dry mix work
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Sanding
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All kinds of hand finishing
Now I'm going to give you some technical information You have
it got to understand It is tough
but you have got to know it It is your life at stake
We are talking about 2 3 5
fibers per cc
Even in the next room we found as much as 25 million fibers to he
inhaled in working day
We found that after sweeping the floors after sanding Alfarone told me they take a little brush and they sweep it up they don't wait for the laborers fibers per cc which is somewhere
around 300 million fibers to be in-
haled in a working day
You don't see these People feel
comfortable because what you don't see you don't worry about
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What does that mean A cc or a cubic millimeter is a thimble of air A man inhales around 8 million cc's a day 8 million thimblefuls of air a day
The Department of Labor has
said that it is safe for a man to in-
hale 16 million million long fibers They don't count the short fibers even though there may be 100
times as many short ones as long ones million long fibers a day
and retain an unstudied percentage
So when you see two fibers per
cc on the next slide we are talking about 16 million long fibers for a
;
day's respired air
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This is what we found Taping
work mixing of drywall taping com-
pound produced almost 60 fibers
is
billion
per cc That is about a billion fibers
in a working dayday that a man would
inhale
Here we have hand sanding of drywall taping compounds Take a
look at the fiber concentrations on
the hand side anywhere from 8 million fibers in a day to 120 million fibers in a day
We found that in the same room We found it in the next room
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Pole sanding exactly the same thing hundreds of millions of fibers to be inhaled and many to be retained in your lungs as you do pole
sanding
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With this as a background we then rayed 17 tapers in New York We took only the fellows who
were in the trade for more than
10 years We wouldn't have seen
anything
in
than anything anything in less
than
matter how much
10 years no asbestos there
was in the lungs It takes a long
time to show an effect
We found that in background to
dry mixing the legal limit is going
to be two fibers per cc which is
too high 20 feet away it was still
13 fibers per cc or about 100 mil-
lion fibers in a working day
We found that 50 percent or 9 out of the 17 men had scarring
on their rays of the sort we had already seen in the Pipe Coverers
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oe
set
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oe
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PROCEEDINGS OF THE TWENTY GENERAL CONVENTION
INTERNATIONAL BROTHERHOOD OF
We also saw the same kind of
scurring of the pleura this white
arca here the same kind of scar-
ring of the pleura
This was very little information with only 17 men With this initial
data which we first showed to Loc-
I came back to New York and
we have since examined about 70 of the tapers in New York and we find is a comparison with the
Pipe Coverers find that the percentage of abnormal rays year for year is virtually identical
Lake City to see what the levels actually are of titanium among fe painters
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We found among the solvents and thinners that there was a re- vi
al 1974. we visited your Interna- for Tapers and for Pipe Coverers
, markable display of the competence us
tional in Washington We first went to a meeting to which we were in-
vited in Miami Beach We met
President Raftery and your full
General Executive Board and it
was at that meeting that your Committee was appointed to review the
matter with us with the President
Emeritus Raftery Mr. Duval Mr.
Cox Mr. Wolford Mr. Pecoraro and Mr. Alfarone I had a liberal
education that day
I think you can appreciate now why we truly were dismayed in this
past year
please
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With what I had been told we
began to look into current paints Dr. Kingsley Kay the head of our Toxicology Laboratory recently gave a seminar to our laboratory
staff and he said What I have
found out about paints used now-
-
.
and ingenuity of the American W
chemical industry
ri
Not only did we find benzene
which can produce leukemia but
we found toluene xylene turpen
tine coal tar solvent naphtha and
the various kinds of alcohol Here el
is a series of them Chlorinated hydrocarbons ketones and esters
tt
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This is only a summary
I was told that it is all right to worry about the tapers but what
about ...... and then I was
-
given a whole list of things
adays would take a full year's toxicology course to review
For example there are pigments there are solvents the plasticizers
We found various which were used which
tremely toxic
hardeners
were ex-
the catalysts the additives the
i
I had thought that paints were stabilizers the hardeners et cetera
paints I now found that they were
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chemical compounds I had thought
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celerators the catalysts the stabili-
that floor tile sanding was an innocuous little thing and I soon found out that sanding of floor tiles sometimes gives so much dust that
you couldn't see across the room
asbestos dust
And this is only a summary Among the pigments we have cadmium which gives kidney damage titanium about which we know
nothing
zers
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The
various bacteria additives
planned to kill bacteria for exam-
ple to keep the paint good
1 soon found that you people al-
So did sandblasting you straightfor-
ward or in preparation for painting and 1 knew what sandblasting did
was told about your hardwood finishers with solvents with sand-
You people won't believe this-
at least I didn't Titanium which is
used in every paint that you use is virtually completely unstudied with regard to what it will do to the human body
When we looked into more about
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These are fungicides They will . kill fungus Nobody said What are
they going to do to the human be-
ings
es blasting and wood dust which I
knew could also give cancer of the sinuses and nose
this about blood levels for exam-
ple we found the only thing that
had ever been done was in 1936
gy-
We found all kinds of effects on
the body on the nervous system
1 remember yesterday Dick Fer-
sete This was gone over with me in
detail
Now you know why we are taking blood samples from you We
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are sending them to the Public
es
Health Service Laboratory in Salt
ris- think he is from this area-
was telling me that when he uses lacquer sprays if he takes a half can of beer afterwards he is drunk
eta
ane
can
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70 "
came back to New York and
vo
we have since examined about 70
> of the tapers in New York and we
the is comparison with this raysthe Pipe Coverers find that
percentage of abnormal
identical year for year is virtually identical for Tapers and for Pipe Coverers
{
I think you can appreciate now
why we truly were dismayed in this
t past year
Lake City to see what the levels
actually are of titanium among
painters
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We found among the solvents and thinners that there was a re-
markable display of the competence and ingenuity of the American chemical industry
Not only did we find benzenc
This is true It is a combined ef
fect
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We found a whole series of plasticizers such as for example the vinyl chlorides that are now being
used chlorinated biphenyls a whole series of chemicals polychlorinated biphenyls
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series
of
:
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;
With what I had been told we
began to look into
paints
the head of our Kingsley Kay
Dr. Laboratory recently seminar
gave
Toxicology gave a seminar to our laboratory
staff and he said What I have
which
produce
leukemia but
which can produce xylenexylene turpen-
coal tar solvent naphtha and
tinethe various kinds of alcohol Here
is a series of them Chlorinated hy-
drocarbons drocarbons . ketones and estersesters
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found
We
We
have
found
a
whole
serieosf
resins being used nobody
what knowing to painters what will wall they do they know
will do on the wall
but we don't know what they will do
to painters
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now- out about paints used afdoauynsd would take a full year's toxtio-xi-
ology course to review
This is only a summary
We
which
which
found various hardeners were used which were ex-
Now with this we also began to get some first information about
sandblasters
example there are pigments
there solvents catalysts plasticizers there
the
,
the
catalysts the additives
stabilizers the hardeners et cetera
Next slide please please
is
And this is only a summary
cad- the pigments we have
Amongwhich gives kidney damage
titanium titanium about which we kknnooww
nothing
used You least people won't believe this--
at
I didn't Titanium which is
in every paint that you use
used virtually completely unstudied
wwiitthh regard to what it will do tothe
human body
When we looked into more about
about blood levels for exam-
this we found the only thing that
hadhad ever been done was in 1936
Now you know why we are tak-
We ing blood samples from you
sending them to the Public
Health Health Service Laboratory in Salt
tremely toxic
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gres, We found celerators
oxidizers
oxidizers
the
ac-
ac-
the catalysts the stabili-
Many people can sandblast and nothing much happens to them but nobody really knows There was one study done in New Orleans last year 1973 and reported here in
'
ten
zers
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this city of 22 cases of sandblasters in New Orleans By the time they
saw these men eleven were dead
bacteria Op
The
various
additives at an average age of 48. eleven
nee
kill bacteria for exam- were still alive and seven of them
planned to
had disease on the ray
good ple to keep the paint
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mt Next slide please
We then looked on our expe-
will
fungicides
These They are fungicides will
ne kill fungus Nobody said What are to do to the human bethey going
ings
e We found all kinds of effects on
ee the body on the nervous system
it I remember yesterday
mee yesterday this - ris think he
from
Dick
Dick Fer-
area-
rience Here was one man that we saw with a little scar up here in the
upper part of the right lung indi-
cating
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Two years later you can see al-
very mostmost destroyed lungs Once it gets often destroyed going very
going once it gets going
because TB may be present it pro-
~ was telling me that when he uses
lacquer sprays if he takes a half
can of beer afterwards he is drunk
gresses
gresses
very
very
rraapipdliy dly
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PROCEEDINGS OF THE TWENTY GENERAL CONVENTION
Here finally is another mesothe-
lioma This is the last slide and it
is worth remembering
This is again a mesothelioma looking down at the autopsy on the autopsy table Here is the tumor
These red nodules of tumor all
through here indicating these are the calcified placques that told you . about before of a man who had
worked sanding floor tiles and breathing in the clouds of asbestos
that occur
.I understand now that I have been
told that this only happens to mem-
bers of your union west of the Mis-
sissippi that east of the Mississippi
the carpenters have the privilege
Laughter
so that the entire audience will be able to hear you
I do apologize to the Delegates
on my right and left in the corners
for not having had the opportunity
to see the screen itself but am sure that you heard Dr. Selikoff's remarks and understood them well
On I Mike in the front
BROTHER COLE Waldo Cole Local 861 Kansas City Missouri
From my experience I find that the employer and the employee not the employee but the insurance companies can get a medical report but the employee cannot
I wonder if your association can
help us along those lines
I May have the lights please
Obviously we have a lot to learn
a a tremendous amount and for that
reason we are terribly grateful to
DR SELIKOFF Let's get one
thing straight because you have raised a very interesting and very important question
you for the teaching that you are
Don't depend on us depend on
doing with us in our survey now in yourselves Your union can get any-
telling our scientists what the condi- thing
erete tions of the trade are and we will
even be more grateful to
for You are going to get reports from
this in the next several you
us every one of you independent-
come when we work with years to ly with nothing going to the em-
y=
you to cor- ployer and nothing going to even
rect the conditions that we are find-
ing Thank you
your union
me, Standing applause)
COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN COX Ladies and Gentlemen you have just expressed yourselves the feelings that the entire General Ex-
But reports now can be made .
available of your
union will see to
union doesn't see
rience is that very be done
health if your it and if your to it my expe-
little is going to
centive Board and the General Pres-
e ident Emeritus has felt for this won-
derful man
We are going to open the floor
for questions if you have them di-
I spoke think it was Mr. Valekis here of California 1 pronouncing it right Mr. Valekis a
sandblaster and he told me that in
yg rectly to Dr. Selikoff
will ask if you do have ques-
tions that you go to the microphones
his trade and he is a foreman now
that in his trade his experience in 25 years one ray of the lungs had been taken not one examina-
INTERNATIONAL BROTHERHOOD OF I
tion had been arranged by the cm-
ployers and here is a disease sili- h
h cosis that we have known about for
100 years since the end of the 19th century in Great Britain so that
your reports can be gotten from in-
surance companies and from others
if you ask for it
eons
Pa Now very often they may say
they won't send it to you Write to me I will write to them and get it
as a doctor and see that you will find out what the information real-
ly is
BROTHER COLE Thank you
COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN COX You may obtain Dr. Seli-
koff's address through the office our
office if you so desire
I recognize the Delegate on Mike
BROTHER FEDORE Brother
John Fedore Local 6. Pittsburgh
Pa
What I wanted to say is this I
have been in the painting business and I done sandblasting and we also done a lot of blowing of dust
flue dust on blast furnaces
Now I went there and took an
examination but what bothers me
more than anything else I told them all of this history it's on the record
there
Now they give they put
five different shots into me Now I
don't even know what it was for
The blood they took I didn't mind but the shots
DR SELIKOFF Very very good question May answer that
BROTHER please
FEDORT
Yes
DR SELIKOFF Right
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... so that the entire audience will be
able to hear you
be
1:17 I do apoalgize poloagpologizie ze to the Delegates
my right and left in the
2 for corners not had for 2
having
the opportunity
to see the screen itself but
that you heahred ard Dr.
Selikoff's am sure
ill
and
Selikoff's remarks
remarks well re and understood them
,
On Mike 1 in the front
id
d
BROTHER COLE Waldo
35 Local 861 Kansas City Missouri
employee- From my experience I
the employer experience the
2- not the employee but the insurance
' ...companies can get a medical
> but the employee cannot
report
help help wonder if your association can help us along those lines
DR SELIKOFF : straight
Let's ggetet one
thing have straight because you
* ised
a
very
interestinginteresting
and
very
very
> portant question
te yourselves depend yourselves depend on us
on
thing om
yourselves
yourselves Your unionunion can get any-
tomb You to are going get reports from
Lt us every one of you independent-
us with nothing going to the em-
ployer nothing ployer and ployer
your union
goggoioiinngngg
to
even
even
1 But
available
reports reports
now
can
be
made
available of your health if your
will see to it and if your
ruineinocne doesn't ee rience
is
be done
expe- see to it my
little that very
is going very
going
to
little is
to
kis spoke think it was Mr. Vale-
e
kis here of California pro-
et
nouncing it right Mr. a
Valekis and he told me that in
ee
tshtaahtnatdblaster his that
trade and he is a foreman now
years
trade his experience in
25hadyears not one ray of the lungs
been taken not one examina-
INTERNATIONAL BROTHERHOOD OF PAINTERS AND ALLIED TRADES
tat
tion had been arranged by the em-
ployers and here is a disease sili-
cosis that we have known about for
100 years since the end of the 19th century in Great Britain so that your reports can be gotten from insurance companies and from others if you ask for it
Now very often they may say they won't send it to you Write to me I will write to them and get it
as a doctor and see that you will find out what the information real-
ly is
BROTHER COLE Thank you
COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN
COX You may obtain Dr. Seli-
koff's address through the office our
office if you so desire
o
I recognize the Delegate on Mike
BROTHER FEDORE Brother
John Fedore Local 6 Pittsburgh
Pa
What I wanted to say is this I have been in the painting business and I done sandblasting and we also done a lot of blowing of dust flue dust on blast furnaces
Now I went there and took an examination but what bothers me more than anything else I told them all of this history it's on the record
there
Now they give they put
five different shots into me Now I don't even know what it was for
The blood they took I didn't mind
but the shots-
DR SELIKOFF Very very good question May I answer that
BROTHER please
FEDORE
Yes
DR SELIKOFF Right
Those skin tests that your Brother had made were only made in small number a small percentage of the
men only those who have done sandblasting Let me tell you why
When there is silica in your lung it lowers the resistance of the lung to tuberculosis Why we don't know again but we do know that anybody with silica in the lung is subject to
developing tuberculosis
There is some evidence now that
the lungs are destroyed among sandblasters much more if they have
some bacteria tuberculosis bacteria of various kinds in them
So what we have done is to start to skin test for tuberculosis five different kinds of tuberculosis bacteria so that those men who we find have positive skin tests will be told about this so that they can get proper treatment to prevent any damage occurring to their lungs
Applause)
COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN COX I recognize Mike 3
BROTHER ARTEAGA Daniel
Arteaga Local 560
Dr. Selikoff I appreciate your in-
formation I have been very interested in this field
In fact through my initiative and the cooperation of the California State Employces Association a resolution was introduced in 1971 Senate Resolution No. 137. I hope that I can be able to give to Vice
President Cox this information
But Dr. Selikoff while am on the mike I would like to ask you have you had consideration of heart conditions in damaging within the painting industry
14,2
PROCEEDINGS OF THE TWENTY GENERAL CONVENTION CONVENTION
DR SELIKOFF That's one of
the many things about which we
have no information
Mind you what we are doing now should have been done 20
years ago We are 20 years too late am sorry but these are the
facts and nobody should kid you
DR SELIKOFF 1 have two
parts to my answer
The first is that's the wrong
thing to do They shouldn't get into the air in the first place You should have a working place where you don't have to work all day with a respirator
We do know that the heart is of-
ten damaged when there is scarring of the lungs scarring that can come
either from the dusts you inhale or from the fumes and vapors and solvents and thinners that can pro-
duce emphysema This then puts a
strain on the heart in two ways
First the heart has to push the blood through the scars which is difficult and secondly when the lungs aren't good there isn't enough oxygen in the blood there isn't
enough oxygen to feed the heart in its work so therefore there is
reason to believe that the heart can
he damaged under these conditions
( Applause
That's not for human beings
Moreover you are aware of the respirator when you see the dust but there's lots of dust when you
don't see it so keep it out of the
air That's number one
For example to get back I don't think there should be dry mixing of taping compound anywhere in
the country
Now New York Local 1974 has banned it and the contractors maybe didn't like it It is cheaper to have dry mix but I'm sorry it's more expensive in human life
That's number one
But the studies that will demon-
strate this unequivocably have not
yet been done
Secondly there are good respirators now for these finc particles of dust disposable respirators that the
COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN COX I recognize Mike 8
Pipe Coverers did the research on to develop -
Brothers while he is on the mike
let me request so we can get as
many questions in as possible that you concise your questions We
would like to attend to as many mikes as we can If you will do
that.'we would appreciate it
They are made by three com-
panies by Three M by Welsh Welsh and by American Optical These are thin light effective and will keep the fine particles from getting into your lungs so they can be used but only in
exceptional circumstances Other-
Mike 8
wise have a clean working place
and don't wear a respirator
ny, BROTHER MC CURDY All
right Don McCurdy Local 1137 Warren Pennsylvania
COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN
COX The Chair recognizes Mike
4
When are we going to get corrective respirators to take these minute particles out of the air
BROTHER CAPONIO Sam Caponia Painters Local 127 Oakland
INTERNATIONAL BROTHERHOOD OF 1
In the San Francisco Bay area la
Dr. Selikoff a local hospital is of- a
fcring a test for lead zinc and
...
mercury This test uses a human --
hair in its testing How accurate is
that test
DR SELIKOFF It is generally very accurate It is a very good test
I don't know how much it will
help It only tells what happened five years ago two years ago or
three years ago but it will give you some information It is a good test It is an accurate test and I think
they should be congratulated for offering it to you
COMMITTEE COX Mike 5
CHAIRMAN
BROTHER WOODEN Wooden District Council 48
Earl
What respirator is the best respirator that we can use today
DR SELIKOFF The best res-
pirator that you can use today is
an air supply respirator This is al-
most impossible to get the employer to give you It cuts production all
the way down Canister respirators
of special types are also very good
There are throw respirators
for dust that causes scarring in the
lungs that are very good
There are very good respirators
now and the Public Health Service
has a special laboratory for res pirators that you can approach and they will give you excellent infor-
mation
Write to Dr. Joseph K. Wagnor
of NOISH in Cincinnati and he
will get the right people in touch
with you and you will get to know
the best respirators
If you get into any trouble if
you can't find out write to my
Fats
1ARD 1ARD GENERAL GENERAL CONVENTION
DR SELIKOFF I have two parts to my answer
The first is that's the wrong
thing to do They shouldn't get into the air in the first place You
should have a working place where
you don't have to work all day with
a respirator
Applause )
That's not for human beings
Moreover you are aware of the
respirator when you see the dust
but there's lots of dust when you
don't see it so keep it out of the ,
air That's number one
For example to get back I don't think there should be dry mixing _ of taping compound anywhere in
anywhere
; country
Now New York Local 1974 has banned it and the contractors maybe didn't like it It is cheaper to have dry mix but I'm sorry it's more expensive in human life
That's number one
Secondly there are good respira- .
tors now for these fine particles of
dust disposable respirators that the Pipe Coverers did the research on
to develop
They are made by three com-
panies by Three M. by Welsh
Welsh and by American
Optical These are thin light ef-
lective and will keep the fine particles from getting into your lungs so they can be used but only in
exceptional circumstances Other-
wise have a clean working working
and don't wear a respirator
place
COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN
COX The Chair recognizes Mikc
Caponio BROTHER CAPONIO Sam
Caponio Painters Local 127 Oak-
INTERNATIONAL BROTHERHOOD OF PAINTERS AND ALLIED TRADES TRADES
41
In the San Francisco Bay area Dr. Selikoff a local hospital is offering a test for lead zinc and
mercury This test uses a human
hair in its testing How accurate is that test
DR SELIKOFF It is generally very accurate It is a very good test
I don't know how much it will
help It only tells what happened
five years ago two years ago or
three years ago but it will give you some information It is a good test
It is an accurate test and I think
they should be congratulated for offering it to you
laboratory to Mr. Duncan A. Holaday and he will see to it that you will have accurate information with
regard to respirators
COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN COX Brothers when you ask your questions first give your name and local union number
Mike 8
BROTHER LABELSON My name is Sol Labelson Business Representative Local 1511 Brooklyn
If you would allow me at this
time I want to compliment the General Board for their interest in this
COMMITTEE COX Mike 5
CHAIRMAN
BROTHER WOODEN
Wooden District Council 48
Earl
What respirator is the best respirator that we can use today
DR SELIKOFF The best res-
pirator that you can use today is an air supply respirator This is almost impossible to get the employer to give you It cuts production all the way down Canister respirators of special types are also very good
There are throw respirators for dust that causes scarring in the
lungs that are very good
There are very good respirators
now and the Public Health Service
has a special laboratory for respirators that you can approach and they will give you excellent infor-
Selikoff research and I
thank Dr.
personally want to for not only being
a great doctor but a great friend to
this trade
I have had a personal experience
Applause)
I have had a personal experience on one of my jobs in the Brookdale Hospital where the kitchens were to be steam cleaned and painted with
epoxy
-
When the men complained of this
Jimmy Bishop our Secretary urer of DC 9 and Morris Levy
was very interested
I got in touch with Dr. Selikoff
and he was kind enough to send Dr. Kay down personally and I want to tell you they stopped the use of epoxy on that job because it was dangerous to the men
mation
So when we receive the para-
Write to Dr. Joseph K. Wagnor of NOISH in Cincinnati and he
phernalia from the General Board telling you about safety I think we
will get the right people in touch
with you and you will get to know
the best respirators
owe a real vote of thanks to General Board and to a great
. man being Dr. Selikoff
the hu-
you get into any trouble if
you can't find out write to my
Thank you Applause
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COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN
COX The Board agrees on your
comments certainly about Dr. Seli-
koff and thank you for your comment to the Board
Mike 6. I'm sorry
BROTHER TOPP My name is
Eddic Topp Local Union 51 Dis-
trict Council 9
In 1971 when we became aware
of the danger of asbestos and other
materials in the acoustical mate-
rials we submitted a sample to the New York State Laboratories and
at the same time I was the Safety Director of the Council or the Safe-
ty Committeeman and they sent it
back 100 percent clear
It was purely by accident that we came in contact with Dr. Selikoff and he sent Dr. Kay out to different jobs and he took samples and we submitted it to Dr. Selikoff's laboratory and lo and behold the Gypsum people's material the report came back It was 50 percent asbestos and 50 percent fiberglass
And as a result of this we went and got samples of every material that was used and it was banned from further use on the cclings in the City of New York and I am
sure throughout the country
What happened in New York State in that case was that they looked at it with the ordinary mi-
croscope You can't see it with the
ordinary microscope remember I told you that
You have to have an electron microscope We have three One of
them cost us 100.000 for example and an ordinary laboratory doesn't
have one
You can also use ray diffrac-
tion but then you have to have a
physicist to run it An ordinary laboratory doesn't have it
But don't make a mistake If you think that this has been banned
throughout the country you have got another think coming and it
hasn't been
I was told by one of the floor
tile sanders I examined yesterday
that he not only has the problem of the floor tile sanding but very often the sprayed ceiling material that you are talking about falls to the floor
and when comes in to do his work it's part of the dust that he
raises in general
This is a big problem and you have solved it in New York but there are many places it has not
been solved
Now my question is this Since we had submitted it to the State of New York and it came back with an okay it was purely accidental that it was submitted to your laboratory where can we submit the material that we have doubts about so we can get an accurate report on
them
DR SELIKOFF It is almost impossible to believe but there are virtually no places you can get such
a report
COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN
COX I'm sorry Brother
Microphone No. 9 please
BROTHER DOBRICK Art Do-
brick Local 275 Chicago Illinois
My question to you Dr. Selikoff is 1 realize that respirators in asbestos are probably very good hut I have always known that your body your entire body breathes so it is not only what you get through your nose or through your mouth
INTERNATIONAL BROTHERHOOD OF
What about protective clothing This certainly would be a great help ool and it should be urged to other
people not only to use respirators
but also to use protective clothing such as plastic coats which cover
your entire body while you are working and also protective shoes so that your entire body will be cov-
ered
DR SELIKOFF 1 agree with you First of all some of these ma-
terials can be absorbed through the skin and can go to the liver can go to the kidney go to the brainthe brain being a very important organ here because we frequently see brain damage through the blood
stream after it goes in the skin
I would suggest however that the procedure that your General
Executive Board is now following be considered wise because they plan after this Convention to sit down with the paint manufacturers
to see how we can get safe materials
in the trade and not have to go around like a zombie in a plastic
uniform
COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN COX We have time for one more question
Brother we have two minutes left
Microphone No. 4
BROTHER GREGORY Thank you
My name is Chester Gregory Lo-
cal Union 10. from Portland Ore-
gon
To conserve time I'm speaking for two people
Several have asked that the Doc-
tor's address be included in the min-
utes so contact can be made
se,
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1 Whatin happened in New York
State f fr rlooked
that case was that thethyey
at it with the ordinary
11-
croscope You
can't
ordinary mi-
ordinary
can't can't see it with the microscope
told you that microscope remember I
themYou have to have
an electron mi-
croscope We have three One
cost 100,000 for
of
and an ordinary laboratory
example example .
have
ordinary laboratory laboratory laboratory doesn't doesn't
r
You
d.
tion You can also use ray
tion
but
then
you
have
to
diffrac-
have
physicist to run it An
a
laboratory doesn't have it ordinaryordinary
t make don't
a mistake If
tthhrouighonutk that
this
has
been
you
banned
throughout the
got
country you have
got
another think coming
hasn't
coming and and
hasn't been coming
are talking about
and
falls
to
the
floor
when he comes in to do his
work it's
raises
part
of
the the
dust that
he
raises in general
New York and it .
This is a big big
,
big problemproblem
you have solved in
btheeerne soarlevedmanymany places iitt has not
COMMITTEE COX
COX
I'm
I'm
CHAIRMAN CHAIRMANCHAIRMCHAIRMAN AN
sorry Brother
Microphone No. 9. please
Illinois DOBRICK Chicago BROTHER
brick
brick Local 275
: Art
Do-
your body is My question to you Dr. Selikoff
is
realize
asbestos
that
respirators
in
are probably very good
have always known that
but
your
your entire body breathes so is
not only what you
nose or
get through your
through your mouth
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197
What about protective clothing
This certainly would be a great help
and it should be urged to other
people not only to use respirators
but also to use protective clothing
such as plastic coats which cover
your entire body while you are work-
ing and also protective shoes so
that your entire body will be cov-
ered
:
DR SELIKOFF I agree with
you First of all some of these ma-
terials can be absorbed through the
skin and can go to the liver can go
to the kidney go to the brainthe brain being a very important organ here because we frequently see brain damage through the blood stream after it goes in the skin
My personal question am wondering the Doctor's comments are appreciated so greatly - he could give us a relative rating of the dangers involved in this smoking
habit as related to those involved in
exposure on the job
Since we are after the contrac-
tors to improve our working situation should we perhaps not have some kind of regulation in a meeting such as this relating to smoking
in
Applause
DR SELIKOFF I have the answer to that Let me give you the
answer to that because it is a very
interesting one
I would suggest however that
the procedure that your General
Executive Board is now following be considered wise because they plan after this Convention to sit
down with the paint manufacturers
to see how we can get safe materials
in the trade and not have to go
around like a zombie in a plastic
uniform
:
COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN COX We have time for one more question
Brother we have two minutes left
Microphone No. 4
I think you will appreciate it The question was asked us ten years ago How do you know that the lung cancer that you are finding in
all the asbestos workers is not due to
the smoking A fair question
What we did was we asked each
of the asbestos workers throughout
the country about what he smoked Some never smoked at all Some smoked cigarettes some smoked pipes and some smoked cigars
I can tell you now that asbestos
workers who don't smoke cigarettes have no history of cigarette smoking don't die of lung cancer
BROTHER GREGORY Thank you
My name is Chester Gregory Lo-
cal Union 10 from Portland Ore-
gon
To conserve time I'm speaking for two people
.
Doc- Several have asked that the
tor's address be included in the min-
utes so contact can be made
Applause )
Now this is the fact Now if they do smoke they have eight times as much lung cancer as all other smokers so it is not the asbestos hy itself it is not the smoking by itself but the combination is terrible
Dr. Hammond of the American
Cancer Society has calculated that a pipe coverer who smokes has 92 times the chance of dying of lung
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cancer
doesn't bestos
compared to someone who smoke nor works with as-
.
Also out west out west in the
uranium mines uranium miners who don't smoke don't die of lung
cancer
Now if they do smoke
a terrible death rating of
cer much greater than
smokers
they have lung can-
all other
Now it fits your problem be-
cause you are exposed to many
things that the combinations may be terrible One by itself may not
be enough to cause trouble but
by gosh what I have learned in the last two days indicates that you never are exposed to only one thing You are exposed to a whole slew of things
until I had an opportunity to sit down with this wonderful man Dr. Selikoff and begin to realize what we had been facing all of these years but did not say
Now you will possibly realize why Dr. Selikoff has provided for the General President and members of the Executive Board approximately 20 scientists doctors and nurses for the tremendous response that you have been giving to us and to them in these physical examinations
I'm sure you realize that in us-
ing the terms we have somewhat been using you as guinea pigs The
purpose of that is to have you in a
able collective audience and to be
to learn as much as we possibly can as soon as we possibly can
Applause)
COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN CON Thank you Dr. Selikoff
Brothers Sisters I wish we had more time for questions I did extend the time because of your intercst I know that we could spend much more time because you have shown tremendous interest in the presentation made here this morning by Dr. Sclikoff
I wish to make clear to each of
you in your individual trades that it is the intention of the members of the General Executive Board
that we extend our field of research
not just in taping or painting but into every industry covered by this
Brotherhood
You saw in front the laboratory
bus that unit When this Convention adjourns that bus will then take off that medical unit and in
behalf of the entire membership of
this Brotherhood, will travel mebrship the
United States
It will stop in various cities and
towns to examine our members We
are going to do the most thorough
job we possibly can because
Dr. Selikoff said we know
as
we are
way behind schedule
Now I know that the General President and each of your General Vice Presidents in each of your Districts is going to be interested in the
response from you and your Local
Union membership of the interest
that you will take
You have responded this morn
ing us of your interest I told
in
you
my opening remarks how little
Knowledge | realized I had the
field of my work and it was not
Let me point out to you that in your packets you have a hook called Play It Safe
Hi hook after OSHA went into
effect was brought up to date by
INTERNATIONAL BROTHERHOOD IF
your Committee your Safety and
Health Committee
You have 211,000 members to day in this Brotherhood and yet we had a response for only 30.000 of these books to be given out to the membership
We intend expanding the knowl-
edge in this book It will be inter-
esting to see what the response will
be for requests of knowledge that
we can extend to you
We sincerely hope that you and
each of your individual crafts will
respond to us when we come and
say we wish to examine X number of members
field While this Convention has been
going on Dr. Selikoff's scientists
have been in the construction
in the City of Los Angeles taking
samples of air on job sites where
taping is being done where chloride paints have been applied
to walls on floor cleaning jobs where sanding has been performed of the asbestos tile into the glass shops because of glass dust
We will continue to extend and we thank God that we have the
privilege of being able to have someone of the tremendous dedica
tion of Dr. Selikoff working with
the Board
Thank you very much
Applause )
GENERAL PRESIDENT RAF TERY think it goes without say
her ing as I take the mike again the dais that all of us are in debted to the good Doctor for th
tremendous job that he is doing i
working with us to help take car
of the problems of these jah si situations in our health and safet
se
rent
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until had an
opportunity to sit down with this wonderful man Dr. Selikolf and begin to realize what we had been facing all of these
years but did not say
Now you will possibly realize why Dr. Selikoll has provided for the General President and
mem-
bers of the Executive Board ap-
proximately 20 scientists doctors and nurses for the tremendous
re-
sponse that you have been
to and to them in these phygsiivcianlg
examinations
I'm sure you realize that in us-
ing the terms we have somewhat been using you as guinea pigs The
purpose of that is to have you in a collective audience and to be able
to learn as much as we possibly can as soon as we possibly can
You saw in front the laboratory
me
bus that unit When this Conven-
GF
tion adjourns that bus will then
me
oO off that medical unit and in
Malf of the entire membership of
this Brotherhood will travel the
United States
;
It will stop in various cities and
towns to examine our members We
e e are
job Dr.
going to do the most thorough we possibly can because as
Selikoff said we know we are
way behind schedule
e General Now I know that the
President and each of your General Vice Presidents in each of your Districts is going to be interested in the
e response from you and your Local
Union membership of the interest
hat you will take
Let me point out to you that in our packets you have a book called Play ft Safe
a This book after OSHA went into
effect was brought up to date by
INTERNATIONAL INTERNATIONAL BROTHERKULOBROTOHERKUDLO D BROTHERKULOOD O IM 1 fi VADO ALL TW *
al
your Committee your Safety and Health Committee
You have 211,000 members to-
day in this Brotherhood and yet
we find a response for only 30,000 of these books to be given out to the membership
We intend expanding the knowl- knowledge in this book It will be interesting to see what the response will
be for requests of knowledge that
we can extend to you
We sincerely hope that you and each of individual crafts will
respond to us when we
say we wish to examine
ber of members
come and
X num-
While this Convention has been
going on Dr. Sclikoff's
scientists have been in the construction field in the City of Los Angeles taking
samples of air on job sites where
applied taping is being done
chloride paints have been
where
to walls on floor cleaning jobs
where sanding has been performed
of the asbestos tile into the glass
shops because of glass dust
and 1 would like to make a little
Brotherhood presentation presentation which e token of the
esteem of the
out the nation amnedmbtehirsship througgly
and the officers and members of General secutive Road Road
the
equipped Wi have pinchased for Dr.
Silikott a mobile unit a specially equipped piece of equipment that I know that he and Mt. Sinai Hos-
pital_need_ pital_need_ desperately in New
York and t would like to him the key to that new unit pornesebnet-
half of all us
Standing ovation
DR IKOFF May 1 express my thanks and the thanks of our group of scientists industrial hygienists nurses physicians who are working here with you this week for the help that you have given us in these last days and for this
throughout generous gift that you now give us
that will help our work
the country
Thank you very much
Applause )
We will continue to extend and we thank God that we have the
dedica- privilege of being able to have
someone of the tremendous
tion of Dr. Selikoff working with
the Board
Thank you very much
Applause)
GENERAL PRESIDENT RAF-
here TERY I think it goes without say-
ing as I take the mike again
at the dais that all of us are in-
debted to the good Doctor for the
tremendous job that he is doing in
working with us to help take care
of the problems of these job site situations in our health and safety
GENERAL PRESIDENT RAF-
TERY The Chair now
the Chairman of the
recognizes Credentials
Committee for a
of the CredentialsconCcolmumdiitngteerepboer-t
fore we move into the special order
of business
COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN BOCANFUSO President Raftery
General Secretary DiSilvestro Gen-
eral Officers and Delegates this is the Final Report on Credentials
Your Credentials Committee concluded their duties as of 9:00 a.m. this morning and this will be an updated final report to the cooperative Delegates to this 23rd General Convention
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