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File Name Customer Visits: GAF, Bendix, Anaconda
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Start Year 1972
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1972
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agenda, report, minutes
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AGENDA
ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH PRESENTATION TO BENDIX CORPORATION EXECUTIVES SOUTHFIELD, MICHIGAN - AUGUST 8, 1972
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I. INTRODUCTIONS
H. G. DONOVAN Product Marketing Manager Asbestos Fibre Division
A. Introduction of Johns-Manville personnel
II.
MEDICAL ASPECTS OF ASBESTOS/HEALTH
GEORGE V\ WRIGHT, M. D.
Director of Medical Research
St. Luke's Hospital
Cleveland, Ohio
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Medical Consultant to J-M.
III. OSHA REGULATIONS %
H. M. JACKSON Director of Employee Relations
E. M. FENNER Director of Environmental Control
IV.
CUSTOMER RELATIONS
W. L. VAN DERBEEK Vice President, Mining and Canadian Products Divisions
V. IMPACT OF OSHA REGULATIONS ON ASBESTOS MANUFACTURING USE H. B. MORENO Vice President, Industrial Product;
C. I,. STAKE
Production Manager, Indus trial Divisions
VI PUBLIC RELATIONS ASPECTS
OF ASBESTOS/HEALTH
F. J. SOLON, JR.
Vice Pron iclon r.
Corporate Relations
G. W. Wright, M.D. /
1. Biological effect: in humans and experimental animals.
2. Is the biological experience the sane in all types of
commercial operations:
Mining and Milling
Canada - Italy - Russia - South Africa
Textiles - Asbestos Cement - Building Materials -
Friction Materials
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Insulation trades
3. Reasons for variations observed in "2n (above)
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Kinds of fiber:
short '
^ thick
Chemistry - geometry and size^-=------------
Nlong
> thin
Dose: Generated - Inhaled - Destroyed - Retained
Location of fibers: Bro'nchi - Alveoli - Pleura
Co-Factors: Cigarettes - Trace Metal - Other
4. Risk to employees in BL manufacturing
McDonald
Chrysotile - size of fiber - dose/
data
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OS HA
5, Risk to Public from BL use General Public Garages Fate of Fiber Animal Experiments
bllQ - Asbestos Fiber Sales August IS, 1972
tv. K. Hendry
cc: W, L. Vanderbeek J. R. ilutciiensoii F. J. Solon, JrH. B. Moreno C. L. Stake E. M, Fenner H. Jackson
BCNDIX CORPORATION SOUTHFIELD, MICHIGAN ASBESTOS HEALTH SEMINAR 3/8/72
A seminar on Asbestos Health was held at the Executive Offices of the subject company on the above date. The format is
attached, as is the list of Bendix attendees. This presentation can form the basis for future J-M presentations on A/H as well ay for the A.I.A. regional seminars now being planned.
Our presentation was very well received, and from the Chief Operating Officer on down, all Bcnclix personnel expressed their appreciation and acknowledged that the information presented is of considerable help to them.
During our visit we had an opportunity to hold meetings with B.J3. Burton, J. Armstrong, H. Stolar and C. Manz. These occurred at dinner, breakfast, and lunch as well as immediately before and after the seminar.
Questions were as follows:
1. Cost per employee to meet 03HA TVL Requirements
a) of 5 fiber/cc (Arthur 0. Little Study estimate $1,600/employee
b) of 2 fibers/cc (estimate $2,800/employee)
2. Accuracy of Tests for fiber content in ,n.ir (our <*muw< r 2 0-JVW'. ;\\: TLV ol! h)
J. How is brake lining dust disposed of
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(Resulted in general discussion
covering pelletizing, land fill, etc.).
4. Questions by Heilman to Dr. Wright during presentation
Wt; r C' '> n;wv * r O 0 \ j y 17 right*': r. o i: *.i piH'tioit .if. ion . At * o x " m [ > 1 o
v/AO riot on grinding linings m arngois.
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Answer: Do not flow dust off brakes. Use vacuum. 5. Any time limit an employee can be on a job that is
hazardous and do we rotate people on such jobs. Answer: No, we correct the problem so that the hazard is controlled. 6. Can technological approach work in controlling yrobj ems? Answer: We do the following a. reduce forming and finishing by technical
changes. b. educate personnel to reduce costs and work
better c. work. tov?ards least expensive solution. Ex
use of wet or damp resin mix.
7. Have wc been cited by OSHA. Answer: Yes
8. How do we handle OSIiA Requirement to notify individual employees of stations that arc hazardous? Answer: (1) Post on bulletin board results of station surveys that are over limit, (2) advise what is being done to correct.
9. Any value in taking your own dust counts side by side with OSIiA Inspector? Answer: We try to take simultaneous samples.
10. Does f(9 help in getting more cooperation from OSHA? Answer: We really can't tell any difference. Bendix hue; tried thin and wlicr^ il: w;i:; done no citation.15 uo f.' r l n m n:;iiA .
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11. General questions on air samplers and pumps.
a, Ilow many do we have
Answer: 100
b. Cost
Answer: 5150/pump (note we do have some Bcndix pumps)
$ 50/ch.arger
12. Hov; do you secure Industrial hygenists, what type of man and hov/ much training.
Answer: (1) Secure man with 2 yr. college or college grad. (4 yrs.). Train in house, Takes 6 months for man to become fully operative.
13. How many do you have.
Answer: 20 full time
14. If glass fiber lodges in lung, what damage.
Answer:
a. glass has almasc no effect vs. asbestos
b. However, there is some evidence that very thin glass (micro-flbors) can cause a problem. Still under .i nves tig at ion.
c. some coatings have been found to render glass inert in the lung.
d. if we could determine the method of coating particles or fiber similar to the natural method in the lung (by iron & protein) problem would be solved. Work going on in an attempt to do this. PVNP (Polyvinyl U Pyridene) works on some silicates and quartz). On quartz PVNP destroys free bond present on quartz surface.
15. With advent of OSHA have we found any marked increase in compensation claims.
Answer: Wo great increase
16. How do you comply with requirements on including employees in Environmental Control Committees.
Answer: We've done this lor years in our employee safety committees - just changed the group's name. This is an excellent employee communication media.
I discussed the. possibility of our securing business at the Cleveland Plant with Harry Stolar and Charlie Menz. They were encouraging and I will pursue it through our contacts.
I talked with Bob Burton on August 13 and discussed it with him. He said there was some discussion at tho top level on this. I expect our visit will pay dividends. Will keep you informed.
H. C. Donovan
Attachments:
1. Attendees From the Bendix Corporation
2. Agenda
3. Health Aspects of Exposure by Inhalation of Asbestos Fiber
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J.R.fll* Hutcheson
VISIT TO GAT CORPORATION, HYDE PARK, If EftBONT
This past nonday, January 3ist, J. 0* Eby and X visited*
the CAT mine at Hyde Park* Ufs went there to discuss
the proposed CPA regulations and also to assess the
operation* They were very courteous and fairly open
in answering questions*
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PRODUCTION
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Their production in 1977 east
2,000 - 5,000 tons Group JY
20,000 -21,000 tons Croups V and VI
23,000
tons Croup VII
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TOTAL
46,000
tons
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They have bean on a five-day week since early December,
19?1 but expect to produce approximately the same tonnage
of fibre in 1972*
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They mine 1 million tons of ore per year with an.
average recovery of 4*6Jt,
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They h8ve two main pits which we visited and three smaller
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ones'* To date their hauls have been very short, for both ;
ore end watte, end usually with the grade in favour of the
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load. Their w/o ratio in recent years has been 1M, or * . 7. il
little higher* They are forecasting 51 for 1972* end
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M or less for the next few years*
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Pits snd roods were in extremely good shops and ths pit , V 7 7 S
mining seamed reasonably efficient* They quoted s cost.
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of 52 cents per ton for ell mining, plus primary snd the ' V-Y*-*7
first wst stags of sscondsry crushing* for equipment -they-.Y 7*7^;-7
have four electrie shovels - approximately 3 cubic yard * 7-ir* ;
sire, three 3$--ton trucks with one 22--ton stand-by, and e t
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O.R.ffl. Hutcheson
Visit to GAf
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1 was told that the mein pit adjacent to the plant eaa enginseted another \00 feet in depth and assuming this to be solid ore they have about 4 million tone - or four years1 ore supply in this area* with little or no waste removal* 1 would guess there is probably the same amount of ore developed in the other pit*
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The ore is crushed through a jew crusher, end a Symons Cone end put on e wet ore stockpile eith a reclaim tunnel and two draw points* They did say that they had mueh trouble with freezing during the winter months* The ore then goes to two horizontal dryers which have no dust controli then to another stage of cane crushing, plus impacting with 3-ffl fiberizere and Siaplieitlye.
Despite the feet that we thought they had made some effort to elean up the mill for our viait it vas a reel jackpot* Tailinga are conveyed from the mill by conveyor with three stackers operating around the top of the pile*
This peat year extra cock screening capacity was put in for low grade ore - less then 3*5$. They were rather embarrassed as since the installation of this screening they have not been able to find any low grade ore*
ENVIRONMENTAL CONTROL
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12e discussed the proposed EPA regulations with the CAF .
people and they said if these regulations were strictly
enforced ae proposed they would probably go out of
business* They have estimated very roughly that it will
eoet $250,000 to put dust control on the dryera and .
tailings transfer points* I think.this figure looks
low* They have installed a Pulsaiss collector on one
of the tailings transfer pginte and it eeemed to be .
doing e good job*
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While ve were in the office a quote was received in the o mail from 3-H to diagnose and recommend corrective action
for environmental control* It was for $30,000 and
staggered then no end* They were visited this past
September by the U5* Bureau of Mines personnel from ! *
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Hutcheson Visit to GAf -3-
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Oenvet who took dust counts'with an impinger, and said they were still using the old standard of particles per cubic foot* They received these counts in Oeceaber and said they were not as bad as they had expected* They have had several citations fro* the State of Veraont but at the present time are not planning to apend any large amounts of money. They era in a depressed area and ara counting on State lobbying to help thea out*
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A.P.D. ASBESTOS June 2, 1972
J.R.M. Hutcheson K.W. Hendry J.O. 9jy R.E. Sampson J.M. Fletcher D.L. Monroe R.W. Kinson A.R. Dennis
C.A. Greenlay R.B. Gresham
JM* Gauthier G.A. Campbell E.B. McKenna E. Stevens M.D. Webb l.J. Gagne D. Carlin
G.A.F. VISIT Thursday June 8, 1972
GAP scheduled a Plant Managers meeting in Montreal during the week
of June 5th and they would like to visit Jeffrey mine on Thursday,
June 8th.
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Their interest is thought to centre on dust central methods and air
sampling techniques.
Attached are copies of the proposed program and a list of the visitors who will represent GAP.
You are invited to attend both lunch and dinner and the discussion sessions.
D.P.R. SMTCH
c.c. C. Voracek H.G. Donovan D.P.R. Smyth File
PROGRAM GAP VISIT June 8. 1972
9:30 - 10 a.m.
Visitors arrive by car from Pfentreal
- coffee
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10:00 - 11:00 a.m.
Pit Tour - J.O. Eby - Transportation Guides
11:00 - 12:00
Conference Room
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Industrial Hygiene Eng. Services - Jack Garber, Skip Lindsay
Jeffrey Dust Control Program * Ray Gresham
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Air Testing Equipment - Ed Stevens
12:00 12:30
Iroquois Club . . Demonstration Dust Control Equipment - Ed Stevens
12:30 1:00 p.m.
Cocktails
1:00 - 2:00 p.m.
Lunch
2:00 * 4:00 p.m.
Mil) Tour - Quides Briefing by Glen Canpbell
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4:00 - 5:00 p.m. , *
Conference Room Questions and Answers
5:00 - 6:15 p.m.
Golf Club - Cocktails
6:30 - 6:00 p.m.
DinneT at Iroquois Clife
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6:00 p.m. (?)
Visitors depart for Montreal
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GAP Personnel
Bob VanBuren Leo Faneuf Ed Kirkley John Cahill Den Berg Prank Guistiani Paul lasley Elliot Briscoe Harry Andrews Leo Sands Kay Gunchin
J-M Visitors
Kike Dcnovaiv Jack Garber )4n*ray Lindsay
GAP VISIT June 8. 1972
Director of Mfg., Floor Covering Division
Director of Mfg., Building Products Division
Division (Floor Products) Controller
Mgr. of Product Services (Floor Products)
Mgr. of Planning 5 Development (Floor Products)
Mgr. of Mfg. Services (Floor Products)
Plant Manager, Whitehall, Pa.
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Plant Manager, long Beach, Calif.
Plant Manager, Houston, Texas
Plant Manager, Vails Gate, N.Y.
Plant Manager, Joliet, 111.
Product Marketing Manager Manager Industrial Hygiene Services Sales Bigineer, Industrial Hygiene Services
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10:00 - 11:00 a.c 12:00 - 12:00
12:00 - 12:30 22:30 > 1:00 p.m. 1:00 - 2:00 pA. 2:00 ** 4:00 p.a. 4:00 - 3:00 pj. S:00 - 6:13 p.m. 6:30 - 8:00 p.m. 8:00 p.m. (?)
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PROGRAM GAP VISIT June 8. 1972
Visitors arrive by car frco Montreal
- coffee
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Pit Tour J.0. Eby Transportation 8 Guides
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Conference Room
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Industrial Hygiene Eng. Services - Jack Garber, Skip Lindsay
Jeffrey Dust Control Program - Ray Gresham
Air Testing Equipment - Ed Stevens
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Iroquois Club '
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Demonstration Dust Control Equipment - Ed Stevens
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Cocktails
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Lunch
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Mill Tour Quides Briefing by Glen Canybell
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Conference Room Questions and Answers
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Golf Club, Cocktails
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Dinner at Iroquois Cl:&
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Visitors depart for Montreal
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The Anaconda Company
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February 28, 1872
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MR. J. H. Fletcher General Manager Canadian Johns Manvllle
Box 1500 Asbestos, Quebec, CANADA
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Dear Mr. Fletchers
Reference your telephone message of the 26th; the *following personnel will be arriving Asbestos March 7, 1972;
Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr.
Mr. Mr.
Dave Piper, Director Operations Engineering a Planning
Dan P. Griffin, Chief Project Engineer
F. j. G. du Toit, Director Mining Researcb
T. m. Rilroy, Assistant to the General Superintendent,
Berkeley Pit
D. K. Gill, Manager of Planning
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B. A. Kennedy, Senior Mining Research Engineer
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At the present tine, it is not positive that Mr. Don Gill ~
will make the trip but we would like to proceed on the assumption
that he will. Should we find out differently, we will notify
you in anple time.
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Sincerely yours.
BAR: we cc: P. J. G. du Toit
Bruce A. XENNBW /
Senior Mining
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Jeffrey Bine flsrch 6, 1972
R.E. Saapson O.t. flonroe t 0*f. florton R*6* Evans 0-C* Richard
VISIT OF ANACONDA COMPANY RESEARCH CROUP
The following croup from Anaconda Company have arranged to visit with us on Tuesday evening and Wednesday -- flarch 7th and 6th;
flesars. P.O.G. du Toit Dave Piper
t Den P. Griffin T*B. Kilroy
Bruce Kennedy t
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Director flining Research . Butte, flontana
Director Operations Engineering
A Planning -
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Butte
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Chief Project Engineer ' Butte
Assistant to the General Superintendent Berkeley Pit
Sr* flining Research Engineer Butte
. Manager of Planning . -
,?;'T*in Bettes
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You are invited to dinner at the Iroquois Club et 6 p.e. Tuesday
evening - and lunch on the ?th*
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Details ere sketchy but I believe they plan to see the Pit on
Wednesday norning and then have a round table of trucking, slopes, etc* following the,visit*
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