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mCTIOif MATERIALS STANDARDS liwiTTUTE, INC., E-210 ROUTE K JtMUS, N.J. 07652 . MINUTES OF 'THE MEETING . . of the . : 'ASBESTOS STUDY COl-ggTTEE : Thursday, January 19, 1978 at 9; 30 A.M... *>''**, > "<* r b' i-a Y . j. Institute Office, E-210 Saute 4, F&TaamaB, K.3. ... .... MEMBERS PRESENT B. Vagner, Chairman G. Nicholson (for B, J. Iwarsson) D. E. Stone I. S. Weaver , ... .. J. Dunderdale -- , J, W, Armstrong Carlisle Corporation ' . . Abex Corporation . . Rendix Corporation, / l' ' Raybestos-Manhattant Inc. ' -.* - Royal Industries Brahe Products Bendis Corporation s;. /' OTHERS PRESENT <s M. R. Cole, Attorney E. tt. Orislane, Secretary R, J. Lavezy ... , J. F. Reis ^ E. M, Fenner . /' * rrrj?r - Gorman & Cole* **' . Friction Materlals*.St andarda Institute Royal Industries Brake Products '* Johns-Hacville Corporation * Johos-Manviiie Corporation- t' ; The meeting was called to order by Mr. Nagncr, Chairman, at 9:30 A.M. _ MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEETING . . ... The minutes of the meeting held March 28, 1977 had been distributed. These ` minutes were reviewed and a motion for their acceptance was made; f '\ ' Mr. Weaver advised that while the minutes reported what was stated at the v> meeting, the second paragraph on page 4 concerning the Raybestos slide program was incurtent. Section 8 of the program dealt with asbestos control. That section was not 8 minutes long. .. Upon motion duly made, seconded and unanimously passed, it was; '* ' _ RESOLVED; To accept the minutes of the March 28, 1977. * ,"V : seating as written. ` ' " ' ' COMMITTEE MEMBERSHIP ' * *' * * The Secretary advised that Mr. J. V. Armstrong of the Bendix Corporation, Southfield, Michigan, was invited to serve on the Asbestos Committee. ?lr. Armstrong accepted and was present at this meeting. ' : \)11 1i 1 i i1 ; * I ! < i 1 I VW-06170 SBESTOS STUDT COMMITTEE -2- January 29, 1978 *-K>RR PRACTICES MUTUAL FOR THE FRICTIOS MATERIALS IWPUSTRT ha Secretary had been In contact with Mr. Reis of Johns-Manville Corporation cncerning the possibilities of the Institute preparing a work practices manual or seder.-, in the friction naterials industry. . Mr._Reis. sent the Institute opies of work that the Asbestos Cement Pipe,Producers Association bad done n this area. One booklet by the A/C Pipe people was entitled,- "Raconbended ork Practices for AfC Pipe." They also published a booklet, "a/C Pipe and *ealth." This discussed the risks in use of 'asbestos iii k/C Pipe. It 'mentioned studies that had been made with animals, and surveys of people exposed to asbestos in A/C Pipe. It concluded that there was no evidence :bat the proper use of asbestos cement pipe poses e hazard to health y reason of ingestion of asbestos fibers. :t was suggested that the Institute right consider working on a bocklet on fork practices for those in brake repair shops using asbestos containing friction materials. Perhaps the IMS! could develop work practices and distribute hen to users. Coverument agencies might rely on or adapt such a program if :he industry had a work practices manual in use. lx. Reis presented a slide program with audio prepared by the A/C Pipe Producers .. Association and which supplemented their booklets. This slide program covered .-esplrable sad ingested asbestos and minis!zed the risk to the public from ingestion of asbestos from A/C Pipe. A/C Pipe would be entirely satisfactory 'here the water is"not'aggressive'(aggressiveness has to do with the hardness *nd the pH value of the water).' The slide program concentrated on risks and Binitdzed the public's risk from exposure to water carried in A/C Pipe. The ** slide program did not touch on work practices as such. The k/C Pipe Producers Association was aiming this program at larRer users of A/C Pipe such as water works, utilties and the general public. It was stated that the first concern for FMSI would be a work practices menual rather than a study of the overall risk from exposure to asbestos from friction materials. It was also stated that Sr. Jacko of Bendix had addressed the risk to the general public from asbestos in friction materials in a paper prepared in 1973. A question was asked as to hcv difficult it would be for the FMSI to set up a program similar to the A/C Pipe Producers Association. Mr. Reis indicated that Johns-Manville would be willing to Help in preparation of such a manual. It was stated that 'the objective for such e manual would be the usera in the replacement market. Original equipment users are generally large organizations aware of the asbestos problem and can plan do their own work in controlling asbestos in their work places. Original equiptaent manufacturers might be involved where dealing with car dealers. It was stated that General Motors is working on a program for their dealers in this area. It was stated that there were two tasks at hand: (1) work practices in the friction material manufacturers1 factories and (2) work practices in the | customers1 brake repair shops. The Asbestos Information Association had addressed the problem of work practices in factories and rebuilders in their I *>ork practices booklet entitled, ''Fabrication and Gse of Asbestos Friction j Materials." There is information in these book6 concerning the OSHA standard, exhaust and dust collection, and methods for making fiber counts. The main * target for an FMSI work practices manual would be the brake repair shops rather than manufacturers or rebuilders. It was stated that there would be little progress without management commitment. If the shop foreman is cot behind the program there is unlikely to be true progress In asbestos control,. It was 53EST0S STUDY COMMITTEE -3- January 19, li usgested that a work practices manual should not he lengthy, and perhaps can e consolidated to four or six pages. Mr* Fenner indicated that color would dd to the value of a work practices manual. If the manual is directed towards anageaent and supervisors it will have to explain why it's important to put hese practices into effect. For information directly to. the worker, a_ simpler nd perhaps shorter message should be used. The Institute had earlier published . one page "Recommended procedures for. Reducing .Asbestos Duet During Brake ..* erviciag." This vas inserted in Inet^tute,.c^t^ogs,.d3^tribute4aij5 loose _for*, tnd was sent to the trade press.r *i-r.v;5 llvz t. to?. 4T<`;r.o^ n ; \ ; i. . i 5 f . rf. *>*:.;* -r ' yt tfi- . o :* I member questioned whether the Institute would support preparation of a work . . >racticea manual. The.Secretary indicated.that if,the committee endorses these .. recommendations he believed chat the Board of Directors would concur. Mr* Fenner .ndicated that FMSX would have to write the.manual. Some of the material already >repared can be of help; It was stated that it'was better that a manual of this :ype come from FKSI rather than from an individual manufacturer. Mr. Fenner .. Indicated that in addition to help from J-M, the Asbestos Information Association rechnical Committee should be willing to help. He pointed out that information Is available and the questions are "How will it be written?" and "How will it >e circulared?M its rot rc;?5 hercalL.-.i tr,;iznl "r * tlr.rv Jpos mottoa duly made, seconded and unanimously passed it vas;. * . ' 'v/rr ' - RESOLVED: t ' ' s;; i ^ ' *:* ., That the Asbestos Study Committee recommends that the Institute prepare and circulate a work practices booklet for users -of friction materials in auto .. . * _. repair and industrial ehopa.. - >. *.\ A member stated that car dealers and national brake service shops such as ~ Penney's, Goodyear and Sears may or may not have equipment for. drilling and grinding brake shoes. In most cases their lined shoes are purchased finished ground ready for. installation. Most of these shops would have drum and rotor lathes for re-surfacing those parts, but most would not grind, drill or other- . wise machine the brake lining. However, it.ie likely that some of these shops have grinding, and perhaps drilling equipment,that would have , tin be properly . exhausted for collection and disposal of dust. A point was made that if it all possible these shops should not grind or drill linings but should purchase. . linings lined to shoes or ready for installation on* shoes. In hew cquiprjent, .most blocks can be bought with several oversires (X, XX, XXX). There will be more grinding of segments in heavy duty. It is recommended that shops avoid grinding if et all possible, and purchase blocks and segments to the thickness needed ready for installation from the brake lining manufacturer. Inhere special bevels or other cutting must be dons the shop oust follow, specific recommenda tions as regards dust collecting and dust disposal. While some heavy duty brake shops will mount end rivet or bolt blocks to shoes, most will not grind at this particular point. However, these shops would probably have capabilities for grinding* recommendations will have to be made for keeping duet levels to a minimum in these shops. - It was suggested that rather than one or two or even three different series of work practices for different level shops, it might be better to have one all encompassing work practices manual. Frota this complete manual, the authors could highlight certain sections and indicate which would be applicable. If the customer grinds or machines the product in any way, he will generate dust and will need proper dust collection equipment. Not only will the OSHA regulations be applicable but SPA regulations on disposal of asbestos waste will also apply* An incentive to purchase materials finished and ready for SBESTOS STUDY COtfdTTEE January 19, 19* installation t*ould be that if a abor. does not machine the reduces nose , squirerants of these regulations will not apply* For example, if they install aterials directly to the shoes without cutting;, drilling ox grinding, dust . ... avels would likely be'Tcw enough that* regular monitoring, protective clothing ,, ? .cur. ad change room requirements would not 'apply "-t.T N . *. r. a ./ ** 7wit;( ...*d <-y,,;:; 7 %.* ; ; "L .f-,'j ; i. . he Secretary suggested that it would he yell to* set up a task force to study .;, roblems of *a work practices 'manual to get this particular project started. *:.r e indicated chat it is not possible for a full comittee t sit down and* ;~.ti rite a manual, Mr. Heaver stated that Raybestcs will be proceeding with a ork practices manual on their own and will nor be able to wait for the**!;.3;. nstitute to produce theirs'.' The Secretary indicated that in his recent * conversation with Hr. Marsh he'understood that Rabyestos wanted the Institute. ; o proceed with a work practices manual. Kr. Heaver indicated that while;. ;. he Secretary may have discussed this more recently with Mr. Marsh, it was rr/.o . is understanding that Itaybestoa was going to proceed on its own because of-1.* * hat they feel to be a very "urgent requirement to have such a work practices ; manual. -:<**- =*' ot.rl .'ll -'*v Zi. -. !r. Sets and Ur. Fenner both indicated that Johns-Maavilla will be most willing r_- , i. o help with art work and graphics if someone would tell them what art work ind illustrations would be required.- The "problem is not ab much the mechanics;.-?: >f getting the manual printed and distributed, as it is getting a write-up usd a decision to proceed vich the* manual . <v- " * s* * cz: ::= 7* :CT"w"I. . !he Secretary suggested that he and the Chairman contact Mr. Marsh at laybestos to determine the Raybestos position. Committee metiers suggested ippoiatment of a small task force to include not only Mr. Wagner and Hr. Dtislaae mt Hr. Heaver to go over this question with Mr. Marsh, and find out exactly ;hat the Raybestos plane are as regards a work practices manual. If the ' rT; . - Institute would be proceeding`with a manual, they could outline the concept c . jf a work practices manual. Decisions could be made as to whether one manual-- 3houid be prepared, or tr>o:of three manuals: heavy duty applications, light ' - duty (passenger car and light truck) applications, and other applications such- as industrial and construction shops which . *V /i tailor friction matesr.iala to order. A question arose as to how such a manual would be distributed to the -field. 1 w/l- < It was suggested that marketing groups of the various members would have k*< see that work practice manuals were distributed to the user. It was pointed*; out that there eight be a few areas`of-special, .emphasis such as those working *;r: with clutch facings and thbse'Vorking with roll lining. It was stated that-, while a manual would have to address the worst possible conditions, it could;, - . help foster a trend towards less machining in the user's shops. : - * v.-.-? * c C `lr. Armstrong cemented about the two*distinct approaches taken by the Asbestos Cement lips Association. One booklet, the Hork Practices Booklet, indicated that there is a problem and here's what we should do about it. The other,.. booklet discussed the risk of exposures to water carried in A/C Pipe and .... indicated that the facts force a conclusion that there is not a problem* with A/C Pipe with non-agreesive waters. Should the Institute similarly address . . . . * rwo areas and indicated that we have a work practices booklet and also a. booklet to indicate that exposure to asbestos in friction materials is not a : r. real problem in the brake shop? The question of the type of pamphlets or -..- * 1 booklets to be published by the Institute would have to be worked out by the task force. The Secretary was directed to contact Mr. Marsh to set up a ; meeting to go over Raybestoe plans as regards a work practices manual. :r. Wagner and Hr. Heaver will join the Secretary in any contact with Hr. Marsh. C SBSSTQS STUDY COMMITTEE 5 January 19, 19 COMMUNICATIONS TOR FJtFtOYEES AIR) USERS OF FRICTION MATERIALS . . he Secretary distributed: to the Committee members copies of Raybestos "Do1 ad Don't's" as regards asbestos# They include this as an insert in their * rake lining packages. It has a brief statement on how to minimize problems ith asbestos in the workshop.*".Li-? tcar*'oi **- J-4 - . ' vfr:. pUrtm*:-**;':'*3* : *:U&OKTiT ,n`*> *' ;* / i : -i r> -:,r:rri-' ;i J. - - - ASBESTOS tJ5T HAZARD . v ; t ^ . s ; V . Do not breathe dust; .. ,, - . > ` PQ not `use air hose, for: cleaning.-'. -. -^.sy jr<f* r:-j >; *-*. -- v. no hot machine without..dust.eoUactWequipment.,: _ - -.-..a.! r-c:# ' `t-.-rn 51* ? * : l2. se vacuum or wet. cleaning methods. ., *>* . Do dispose of dust in sealed container. Do wear mask if unable to avoid dust. t was stated that this was a good condensed set of instructions which might ;ct the message across, A lengthy one page or longer report would prcbably ' iot be of much use at this point. It was suggested that other menders' might. * ise euch an insert for distribution with their brake linings, blocks, and \ ;lutch facings. ** . -j-* * "t "* ``:L ....... Ir. Weaver showed a part of a Raybestos slide program aimed at brake personnel. * ~ he section on asbestos was but one section of an eight section slide program >ith audio) on brake servicing. ;_The slides were in the fora of a question md answer program to indicate good practices in control of asbestos dust ,n the brake shop. These slides where Section 8 of the Raybestos brake clinic rogram. *' : ........ :c was suggested that perhaps the Institute should make a public relations release on work that industry is doing to control asbestos both in their own * ' 'V " (hops and in their customer's shops. Perhaps communications with employees md users might be supplemented with communications with the gwierai public md the media. It was stated that this might be better done if the Institute i&d s voxk practices manual and could then make it known that such a manual ' ras available. Were the Institute to attempt coverage in the general media .t is more likely Dr. Selikoff and others would get the last word and early releases by the Institute would be of no positive value. The general media .s more likely to accept statements by groups such as Hount Sinai and might ilninri*e or distort any contribution of industry. It was suggested, that releases might be mad in automotive trade publications. The Secretary .ndicated that when the Institute published the ''Recommended Procedures for deducing Asbestos Dust During Brake Servicing" releases were made and published Itt several magazines for the automotive trade. tt was stated by one member that an avenue that is open and should be used, and that he personally had used, was that individuals should give Congressmen r>oints of viex* from industry. letters to the editor and to'legislators may ifilp in arriving at some balance before decisions are made. A Committee .t * > stubs c^phttes 6- - Junuary 19; 1978 pointed out that there was a recent release from.OSBA concerning the industry which was less than complimentary to the American foundry y, In any public relations encounter in the general media it is .most : that the industry position will cone in second best. * i. ' - o: -r:' ;o. sr `:al\ 2 s m : J .. ;;. rde comunications with employees, Hr. Stone indicated that the Bendix .. a IZaterials Division used the Johns-WaavlXle slide snd audio program d, forking with Asbestos,*' and showed lt_to new employees. This program lable in cassette and slide fora from Johns-Uanvilie in Denver, Colorado. Bandix program, they added their, own slides witlTpictures of presses ting equipment showing dust collecting equipment added to control levels in the work place. The slide was narrated by a Bendis Safety sor and particularly mentioned names and described the operations of lopes. This program was tailored well to its 'audience, and it was ed that other members might wish to use the Johcs-Manville "{forking bestos'1 program in similar fashicrw- It was suggested that no ucanned" j can work satisfactorily for all members, and by tailoring J-H's a to their own employees* as Bendix did, it may. be a valuable tool tectrinating employees. rd further communications with users of friction materials, it was ;ed that a work practices manual could serve as a outline for preparation Lide program. Hr. Fenner indicated that he would be happy to help put er a slide program if he could receive input as regards what shouldj . on the slides. Based on g work practices manual as an outline, - .. aner felt that it would be a reasonable job to prepare a slide program ;r. ember could arrange for him to take slides either in one of their .own s or in a customer's work place, tilth photographs developed in this*-:/*' n, J-U could tie a slide program into a work practices manual. AST .ASSOCIATES--05HA TRAILER'S GUIDE . ,,r cretary indicated that this item was made an agenda item as the agenda - epared in December 1977. Subsequent to preparing the agenda, the : ute assembled a critque of the Abt Associates work for OSRA. The ute replied to Aht Associates on December .28, 1$77., .The comments - - - . Associates were based on material prepared by the Secretary and . -- ed by Ur. Vagner and >5r. Weaver. In addition to the comments by the : . :ute, the Asbestos Information Association replied. Also Hr. Armstrong d for the Bendix Corporation and Johns-Manville forwarded comments.. . - ,r -ed by Dr. Kotin. - *-* " * ' ----- . ; generally commented that the Abt Associates Trainer's Guide appeared an amateurish presentation which had not been researched sufficiently :ablish the facts. It was felt that industry had responded to this and that if their comments are considered it vill have benefited all rood. DRAFT FOR PROPOSED AU PA2EPHUT <t.H. UEAVRR) vetaber 197b Hr. Heaver prepared a draft for a pamphlet for AXA entitled, stos Dust Hazards and Brake Lining and Clutch Service Operations.M r aaver distributed copies of this recommendation to several parties and no nts were received. Based on a How-up by Hr. Weaver, the Sec' ary wed Ur. Heaver's suggestions and made comments concerning various sections ASBESTOS STUDY CO^UTTEE 7- Januarv in, 1978 of his write-up: This W26 covered in his memo to the Asbestos Study Committee _ on January 11, 1978. Mr. leaver felt that most of the comments in the Secretary*s critique were valid but that he didn't agree concerning removal of the second sentence concerning toesothelial -tumors in persons involved with * autoiMbile brake servicing.' .r*. i.;. *:*. t-.r '. ? v. ;r- .'.,,ojr/;V / 2 :a: - r nr. ;:u-;."V -* ; It was stated that this pamphlet would assumingly be no longer viable if the RiSl is to work on writing up "a work practices manual. It is unlikely that"i- the Asbestos Information Association will put out a pamphlet on this" subject : if the Institute prepares a work practices manual; Eowever, information in 1 this write-up would be of value in writing up a work practices manual.. It was suegee ted that anyone using the introductory section of Mr. TJeaver's' draft be particularly coreful of the wording. No further action la contemplated os concerns this draft pending action taken as. regards the Institute preparation of a work practices manual. ..-. .*...........i . Ci, ,. *l 4T CONSUMER PRODUCT SAFETY COMMISSION RECALL PROCEDURES* -- ' *J v **-- z. ..* / (4 ..il < The Secretary advised that he had been contacted by Mr. 'Adrian Cptdns of the : Auto Friction Corporation concerning the Consumer Product Safety Commission **and its procedures for recall. He was particularly concerned that if in the .* future the Consumer Product Safety Commission were-to ban the sale of asbestos containing friction materials, chat disastrous costs would be Incurred in a major recall. Mr. Condns expressed Ilia concern in a letter'that be wrote to " r the Consumer Product Safety Commission on procedures used during the Iris recall, Mr. Comins wrote indicating his concern that' the economic burden of any recall should be borne equally by all members of the distribution * chain. He wrote this as a private citizen on his own'letterhead and did not* - bring in the subject of friction materials. The Secretary indicated to * *. Mr. Comlns that ha did not want to raise the question of banning the friction materials for fear it would put the idea into motion, . * *- V ' " ' 'K'- ^ The Secretary recently.wrote Mr. Obtains when CPSC banned the use of artificial emberizing materials and patching compounds. The Consumer Product Safety Commission issued the regulations under the Consumer Product Safety Act (CPSA) rather than under the Federal Hazardous Substance Act <7HSA> By proasolgating under CPSA the regulations do not require the re-purchase of products by* manufacturers, distributors and retailers. Mr. Corains feels that individuals in the Friction Materials Standards Institute should make their concern known to the Consumer Products Safety Commission by writing them directly. He does not feel that the Institute or Corporations should be involved at this.time. *, Be indicated that he was asking the Institute to make a recommendation to its members concerning recall procedures by CPSC. At this point the Committee ceTtbers indicated that they endorsed the idea of encouraging .. individuals to write the Consumer Product Safety Commission concerning recall procedures and to advocate that the burden bft borne equally. This would be the case if any such regulation were to take place under the Consumer Products Safety Act rather than under the Federal Hazardous Substance Act. ; Mr. Fenner indicated that there is a question as to whether friction materials can be considered a eoasuser product. There is an effort on hand now to * expand the definition of a consumer product. There is a litigation involving the Anaconda Corporation concerning wiring used in the residential housing. This has to do with the susceptibility to fires under certain installation conditions with alurataum wire vs. copper wire. This issue is now being ASBESTOS SIXIDT COMMITTEE -fi January 29, 1978 ll tigated as to whether aluminum wire in residential housing can he regulsted.^ by the Consumer Product Safety Consoles ion. In addition, Hr. Tenner pointed; . v<( out that the study which is. now. under way hy H. T. Kearney Associates is, c examining the question of asbestos products, that may be considered consume^ s./.--. products. The Institute had been-called by Mr. Strickland of Xeamey.Associates; concerning whether asbestos was used in various friction devices used on equipment other than automotive brakes.j- This, included such items.as typewriters. X-ray machines, bicycle brakes; tape.recorders and so.forth. At that tiaec* > Mr. Strickland indicated that his firn was working on.a study for the.Consumer,- : Products Safety Commission where asbestos was used, in consumer, products.,;. It > ;<; was suggested that the Institute take no action as regards the Consumer Product *:* Safety Cccnission until the Kearney report has been completed. ' ' ' l vo; it-. institute'SPONSORSHIP OF ASBESTOS'SEMINAS - -' 7'7' "7 The Chairman indicated that in response to a suggestion by Mr. Messier, President of the Institute, It was considering sponsoring a seminar similar to that which was held in 1975 on the asbestos, problem.: At that seminar, the Institute had a presentation by Johns-MShville Sales'Corporation vith V" featured appearance by Mr. Byung Xwon of OSHA. . This, particular seminar was -. well received because it was held within six to eight, weeks after, OSHA. had - .. made proposals to revise the asbestos standard in . October. 1975. ?c- :: Mr. Wagner indicated that he had talked with Ferro Tech and they would b*?\ happy to sake a presentation at such a seminar. , Mr. Wagner indicated that.;-< *- Mr. Kvon who spoke at Cur Deceober 1975 Seminar is no longer with OSHA. la; v,, ,, response to Mr, Wagner's inquiry to OSHA they indicated that perhaps they . could provide a speaker for aa THSI seminar, hr. "agnar had contacted - - Mrs. Helen Farrington at OSSA. .Mr. fanner indicated that if we were to hold such a seminar he would recommend that Mr, Grover Wrenn, OSHA's Director of - the Office of Health Standards Development be invited to .address those attending. He stated that Mr. Wreaa is a personable and interesting talker. The Secretary . advised that he had contacted companies such as Amoco Toole, Nilfisk of America, Par-tux lac. <md Tempo Products Company.,, These companies sell- equipment used in the brake shop and some have devices for exhausting dustr from the work area and from brake assemblies. It was suggested that the--^ ( - seminar be planned around the brake repair shop rather than the imnsufacturing plant. It was suggested that Mr. Jerry Cusanano be invited to such a . r: seminar. Mr. Cusamano is a consultant on dust collection. The Chairman -- asked if Johns-Manville would help with the presentation.' Mr. Tenner indicated that if such a seminar were held they would be.happy to assist. .r.,, t in some fashion. ' . *:* ~ 1'*.**- :~.s; .. It was stated that a seminar at-this point night detract from the Committee's . work on the work practices manual.; Zc was suggested char the Institute not ^ :. dilute the CoasLittee's efforts by scheduling a seminar .at this tirae._ As there v has been nothing further on OSHA plans a seminar might be premature. Also, it was suggested that if the Institute prepares a work practices manual it might be well at that time to schedule a seminar to introduce the.work, practices manual At such a seminar the Institute could promote the idea of using this work practices manual in brake service shops. Reporters from trade magatinea could be invited. It was generally agreed that it would be well to hold up on the-- idea of a seminar until the Institute has taken action on the work practices - manual* At cor-pietion of the work practices manual a seminar might be the . - proper place to promote the work practices booklet. No action will be taken on a Seminar at this time. j ASSLSTOS STUDT COMMITTEE * 9 January 13, 19?8 StAIUS OT OSHA. REGULATIONS OS ASBESTOS .1 The Asbestos Information Association has advocated the work practices approach ?*. as a means of controlling asbestos dust for the construction industry standard. The construction industry* is'different than the manufacturing industry because';' of the transient work force and other such characteristics. There is some-T: > possibility that* 05KA* may' possibly go with a work practices oriented regulation for the construction industry standard.'- If a contractor was using certified . - work practices it tcight relax the heed for other control procedures. : T; As regards the manufacturing standard, no public hearing has been held end none * has been scheduled. It is possible that the construction industry standard might be part of any nubile bearing where OSHA is considering further action on the-- ' manufacturing standard. Hr. Fenner indicates that to his knowledge nothing ,t tt. ' has been done on the construction standard and he does not foresee any action r in 19 78. The proposed changes in the manufacturing standard that were cade la t: 19 75 arc awaiting evaluation in e study by a group contracted for by OSHA. .* Consad has yet to complete a'etudy of the economic impact of the proposals ;;.: which were in the October 1975 proposals for the manufacturing segment of the industry. Further, the'Research Triangle Institute was* to make an economic ::i study for the construction industry. Drafts of these studies will not be ready before April 1978. In summary, there appears to be littie action that can be expected in the sear future as regards either the construction standard or the rnanufsecuring standard.__ >*__;_ ___ ____ ___ ]___ _______________ -r - OSHA GENERIC'* STANDARD--SUBSTANCES POSING AN OCCUPATIONAL CARCINOGENIC RISK -'l The proposed "generic'' standard for identification, classification and regulation of toxic substances posing a potential occupational carcinopenlc risk rea published in October 1977. These proposals are referred to as the ''eeneric" standard. The proposal is to have a basic standard written, and then the blanks could be filled in depending upon the' particular suspected carcinogen. Any comments concerning this generic standard were to be in by January 31, 1978. * * (Subseeuantly postponed to February 18, 1978.) This proposed 7'generic" standard* is a major step by OSHA and apparently is the thinking of the new Assistant Secretary of Labor, Eula Bingham. The oaio larger of this fjenerlc -standard would be the chemical industry. Industry has set up a group to present their viewpoints as regards this generic standard. Several manufacturers formed the American Industrial Health Council (AIHC), As asbestos will still be regulated'! under the earlier asbestos regulations there is no action that the Institute" ^' ' could take at this tire. It is,rof course, a,standard which* could have d moat - substantial impact on all industry. '* . UAH PFTITIO,? FOR EMERGENCY ASBESTOS STANDARD In July. 1977 Hr. Douglas Fraser, President of United Automobile Mockers petitioned-the Honorable Ray MarshallSecretary of "Labor, to establish an emergency standard for exposure to asbestos, in line with the proposed changes OSHA made on September JO, 1975. There was a Question as to the statue of this petition. The UAH's petition for an emergency standard was denied by the Department of Labor. The Department of Labor politely denied the petition because there was an existing standard in effect, and the issues raised by the proposed revisions to the standard had not been resolved. * J AS3ESIOS STUDY COMMITTEE -10- January 19, 19 73 riOSH CONTRACT--INVEST!CATION OF HEALTH HAZARDS m BRAXZ LIMING REPAIR SHOPS On January 5, 1978 there was a meeting held at Mount Sinai Hospital concerning the NIOSS contract for investigation of health hazards in brake lining repair .. shops. This was a session with industry, NIOSH and Mount Sinai people to . .. review the progress of this particular study. . Mount Sinai Hospital received . ... a $180,000 contract from HXOSB.,for this study. , The Secretary attended this, . ' session along with several masters of this committee Including Mr; B.J. Iwarssoo, ' I. 8, Weaver and Dr. .. Stone.*; Also attending were Hr.. Marsh free Haybestos,- . , Mr. Chase from Johns-Manville, and Mr. Mereness frot;the Asbestos Information Association. Two representatives from NIOSH hardly*participated in the session. , _ The session vas controlled by both Dr. Selikoff and Dr. Nicholson of ?}ount Sinai. w A brief report was written on the session in which some questions were raised - about the impossibility of locating a cohort exposed to short fibers only who*,,. ^ would not also have beea exposed to longer fibers. Also there were several comments concerning the use of workers in New York Municipal garages. From..' the comments made by the union representative there is considerable difficulty .. . in not only locating the garages but in locating the workers and knowing the types of exposures to which they are subjected., This discussion was apparently, , . held in line vith instructions when the contract was issued. As indicated, there, was no actual report from NIOSH as to the progress of.the study; ... . QUEBEC PROPOSALS FOR ASBESTOS MANUFACTURING INDUSTRY. I Mr. Reis felt it night be of interest to know the outcome of a recent study concluded by the Province of Quebec, with input from among others Arthur D. Little Company. Quebec is attempting to bring more manufacturing jobs involving asbestos into the Province rather than just shipping asbestos outside the ares. . This study indicated that at best there were three areas where Quebec might participate in asbestos products manufacturing. Those were: -U) Asbestos cement sheets, (2) Molded friction materials, and (3) Flooring felts. - It was . . Indicated that at most 400 jobs might be created in these manufacturing areas in Quebec. . It was apparently Quebec* a hope that considerably more manufacturing jobs might be opened up in that Province. " ,..r V The Chairman of the Committee and the Members expressed their thanks to Mr. Reis ,, . and Mr. Fenner for their offers of help in preparation of a work practices manual. They also extended the Committee's thanks for their participation in //. * * this meeting. : - ................... There being no other business brought to the attention of the Cocmittee, upon motion duly made, seconded and unanimously passed, it was; ... ' - * RESOLVED: To adjourn. ..................... . *.. ". .. .. Adjourned: 2:40 P.M. 1 , W. Drislane .- Executive Director . J ALLIED SIGNAL EXHIBITS DATE: 1/19/78 SUMMARY Minutes of the ASC meeting as they discuss creating a work practice manual for workers in the friction materials industry dealing with asbestos and they agree to have a task force look into it. Talk about Raybestos' warning insert in their asbestos products. May do an asbestos seminar like last year. Discuss OSHA. AUTHENTICATION: FMSI letterhead, Stone and Armstrong of Bendix are there. Armstrong added to the committee. COMMENTS: Not a good exhibit. Members discuss various means of informing customers and employees about working with asbestos and its dangers. Only good statement is that the Secretary advises Weaver to remove a line in a proposed AIA pamphlet about rneso tumors in brake servicers and Weaver disagrees. Brunt of exhibit is about steps they are taking or may take to tell people about asbestos. * tn'.:- .lals s:^"A?^3 irsr::-Ts. s-uo actu iu, ?a*jct:s5 , :-:si mi^jtis or ths rgstnc of the KAmws ... EXHIBIT \{i<5Xy/ asbestos srvor ca-oarm ''' - r. .JJhursday, January 19, 19 78 at 9:30 A.M.,,- > e Institute Office, r-2I0 Reuse 4, ParstRia, W.J.\ 'T*3-RS P*$FVT 2. Vagner, Chairman C. Sichelscn (for B. J. Iwarsson) 0. . Scone 1. 2. leaver *(- _ J. Dunderdale J. W. Aras trong Carlisle Corporation Abex Corporation Sendix Corporation > *; Raybestos-Manhattan, Inc. '* * .' Royal Industries Brake Produces Sendix Corporation.' "'/* p-^S^TT M. R. Cole. Attorney Z. 1?. Drislane, Secretary 3. Lavery J. F. Reis Z. K. Fenner , '' Goman 4 Cole* * * ' *.**.*' Friction Materials Standard* Institute Royal Industries BtaVa Products Johns-Maaville Corporation ' Johns-Manvilla Corporation';, *. seeing was called to order by Mr. Wagner, Chairman, at 9:30 A\H. HljrCTSS OF fPXnOUS MESTIZO The minutes of the mac ting held March 28, 19 77 had been distributed. These ainuces were reviewed and a notion for their acceptance was made. '' Mr. Weaver advised chat while Che minutes reported what*was stated at the rearing, the second paragraph oa page 4 concerning che Rayfeestoa slide* program */as incorrect. Section 8 of the .program dealt with asbestos control, that section was not 8 minutes long. * ' .' ": 'Opon motion duly made, seconded and unanimously passed, it was; * _* *'* RESOLVED: To accept the minutes of the March 28, 1977. *. ' casting as written. COIftITTES MEM3ERSHZ? The Secretary advised that Hr. J. W. Arssttong cf the Bendix Corporation, ' Southfield, Michigan, was invited to serve on the Asbestos Comaittee. Armstrong accepted and was present at this meeting. \ 2- January 19, 19*8 .. r,03X PRACTICES HAHUAl FOR THS FRICTION MATSRIALS ITOUSTRT cretary had been in contact with Hr. Reis'of Johns-Hanvtile Corporation .ning che possibilities of the Institute preparing a work practices manual or workerr. la the friction r.atsrials industry. Hr..Reis aer.c the Institute epics c work that tfcg Asbestos Cerent Pipe Producers Association had doc*; r this area. One booklet by the A/C Pipe people was entitled, "Recamesded =rk Practices for A/C Pipe.'1 They also published a booklet, "A/C Pipe and ealth." This discussed the risks in use of asbestos in A/C Pipe. - It* enclosed studies that had. bean ^ade vith animals, and surveys of people xpcsed to asbestos ic A/C Pipe. It concluded that there was no evidence her the proper use of asbestos cenent pipe poses a hazard to health y reason of ir.gescicm of asbestos fibers. : was suggested that the Institute night consider working on a booklet on / % ark practices for chose in brake repair shops using asbestos containing ricticn materials. Perhaps the FI'S I could develop work practices and distribute hen to users. Government agencies might rely on or adapt such a program if he industry had a work practices manual in use. !c. Reis presented a slide prograa vith audio prepared by the A/C Pipe Producer* .ss sciatica end which supplemented their booklets. This slide program covered *espirable ini Ingested asbestos and minimized the risk to the public from ozescion of asbestos from A/C Pipe. A/C Pipe would be entirely satisfactory here the water is not aggressive (aggressiveness bas to do with the hardness ind the pH value of the water). The slide prograa concentrated on risks and i-'-iized the public's risk from exposure to water carried in A/C Pipe. The prograa did cot touch co work practices as such. The A/C Pipe Producers -nation was aiming this program at larger users of A/C Pipe such as water- -- ork3, utilcies and the general public. It was stated that the first concern for FMSX would be a work practices manual rather than a study of the overall risk from exposure to asbestos from friction materials. It was also stated that Dr. Jacko of Bendix had addressed the risk :o the general public from asbestos in friction materials in a paper prepared La 1973. A question was asked as to how difficult it would be for the FMSI :o set up a program similar to the A/C Pipe `Producer* Association. ;Mr.' Reis " ' Indicated that Johns-Kanville would be willing to help in preparation of such 3 manual. It was stated chat the objective for such e manual would Va the* Jsers in the replacement market. Original equipment users are generally large organizations aware of the ashestoe problem and can plan do their owu work In controlling asbestos in their work places. Original equipment manufacturers tight be involved where dealing with car dealers. It vaa stated that General Motors is working on a prograa for their dealers In this area. I: was stated that there were two tasks at hand: (I) work practices in the friction materials manufacturers' factories and (2) work practices is the customers' brake repair shops. The Asbeacos Information Association had . addressed the problem of work practices In factories end rebuildera in their ork practices booklet entitled, "Fabrication and 'Dse of Asbestos Frictioniarerials." There Is information in these books concerning the OSSA standard, 'st and dust collection, and methods for making fiber counts. The main * for n PHSZ work practices manual would be the brake repair shops rather taan manufacturers or rebuilders. It was stated that there would be little progress without management commitment. If the shop foreman le not behind the program .there Is unlikely to be true progress is asbestos control. Ic was .U* CO:-- MOW - Jar.u^ry I*. IV " a :ctesced that a work practices manual should not be lengthy, and perhaps can ! consolidated to four or six pages. Hr. Fenner indicated that color would the value of a work "practices manual. If the nanual is directed towards ;enc and superviscrs-4t will have to explain why it's important to put .es practices into effect. For information 'directly to the worker, a simpler ... .d perhaps ahorter message should be used. The Institute had earlier published * cr.e page "Recoc.ner.ded Procedures for Reducing Asbestos JJuet During Brake -- *____ rvicing." This was inserted in Institute catalogs, distributed in loose fora 1 td was S20t to the trade press. : . V- i? . *.<< : - ; < .< - member questioned whether' the Institute would support preparation of a work ,** . -actices casual. The Secretary indicated that if the committee endorses these ... jcommandations he believed that the board of Directors would concur. Mr. Fenner. :dicated chat FM5Z would have to write the manual. Some of the cate rial already repared can be of help; It was stated that it was better that a manual of this pa come from FM5I rather than free an individual manufacturer. Mr. Fenner rdicated chat in addition to help fron J-H, the Asbestos Information Association.** :chnical Committee should be willing to help. He pointed out that inforcation ! i available and the questions are "Row will it be written?" and "Bow will it s circulated?" : ` ' *c-' --r ;. ; .......... 'cn Docion duly made, seconded and unanimously passed it was;. / - ... ...... KSSOLVED; That the Asbestos Study Cossittae recommends that the Institute prepare and circulate a work practices bookies for users .-of friction materials in auto repair and industrial shops- *, * i- r stated that car dealers and national brake service shops' such as ;nney's> Goodyear and Sears say or may not have equipment for drilling and rinding brake* shoes. In most cases their lined shoes are purchased finished round ready for installation. Host of these shops would have drum and rotor ithee for re-surfacing those parts, but most would not grind, drill or ctber.se machine the brake lining. However, it is likely that seme of these shops ive grinding, and perhaps drilling equipment that would have to be properly . ciausted for collection and disposal of dust. A point was cade that if at .1 possible these shops should not grind or drill linings but should purchase . .tings lined to shoes or ready for installation on' shoes. In hcavr oeuiosant,. ?sc blocks cam be bought with -several oversize* (X. TXf 232}. There will be . * :re grinding of segment* in heavy duty. It la recommended that shops avoid rinding if at all possible, and purchase blocks end segments to the thlcknese isded ready for installation from the brake lining manufacturer, Where special jvels or ocher cutting must be dose the shop must follow specific recommends.ons as regards dust collecting and dust disposal. While some heavy duty rake shops will mouse and rivet or bolt blocks to shoes, most will sot grind : this particular point. However, these shops would probably have capabilities '.r grinding* and tecoroendationa will have to be made for keeping dust levels 3 a minimus.'in these shops. : was suggested that rather than one or two dr even three different series, f work practices for different level shops, it might be better to have one icospasslsg work practices manual. From this complete manual, the authors * Ighlight certain sections and indicate which would be applicable. If comer grinds or aschines the product In any way, he will generate dust id will need proper dust collection equipment. Hot only will the OSSA vgulatians be applicable bun EP1 regulations on disposal of asbestos waste .11 aXso apply. An incentive to purchase materials finished and ready for . 4 szill&zLszi would be that 15 a shop does not nachine the reduces nost cuirereots of theca regulations rill not apply. For exarple, if they. Ins tall teriaIs directly to the shoes without cutting, drilling or srirdin-, dust *.*e15 would likely bellow enough that re'-uiar noattotinr, protective clothingT ng room reduirebents^would not 'apply.' " *; ^ *' 1 " .t`-y * .: * t* *.:rl~Lj. a Secretary suggested'that it would be well'to' sec up a Cash force to study .* < oblera of a work practices 'manual to'get this particular project started. indicated that it i*s not possible for a full committee to sit down and: Ire a casual. ?*x. leaver stated that Raybestos will be proceeding with a .] rk practices oanual on their crttl and will not Ise able to wait for the : . scltute to produce theirs.' The Secretary indicated that in bis recent . nver? avion with Mr. Marsh he' understood that Rabyestoa wanted the Institute proved wich a 'work practices canual. Kr. leaver indicated'that while- ,, 2 5aerstacy rrav have discussed this more recently with Kr. Tiarsh, it vas r.,, s understanding that lUyfcestos was going to proceed on its <vt because of-v at they feel to be a very 'urgent tequitenefit. to have such a work practices * ' r.ual. *- - *- ...* / .: ?r-r . . V **.. .. - Reis and Mr. Fenner both indicated that Johns-?ianvilla will be cost trilling help with art work ted graphics if soneoae would cell them vhc art work d illustrations would be required.*-The preblea'is not so aych the cechaaics -** getting the nanual printed and distributed, as it is getting a write-up d a decision xo. proceed with Che manual. 5 = -:.y; e Secretary suggested that he and the Chairman contact Mr. Marsh at ybescos to deterrine the Raybestos position.* Coraittee netobers suggested pointnent of a seal! cask force to include not only Mr. t'agner and Mr. Orislane . leaver to go over this question with Mr. Marsh, and find out exactly* i Raybestos Ians ate as regards a work practices oanual. If the" scibate would be proceeding with a manual, they could outline Che concept a work practices canual. Decisions could be made as to whether oae canual * ould be prepared, or cv or three aanuals: heavy duty applications, light :y (passenger car and light truck) aplicaetens, and other applications such industrial and construction shops which tailor friction materials to order. question arose as to her? such a aanual'would be distributed to the field.. . . was suggested chat marketing groups of*the various meobers would have to. * a that work practice manuals were distributed to the user. It was pointed :t that there aighc be a fev .areas .of special emphasis -such as those working th clutch facings and those working with roil lining. It was stated that ,ile a manual would have to "address the worst possible conditions, it could 1? foster a trend towards less machining in the user's shops. :*.* * -- -* *" :* -z Armstrong cowaented about the two*distinct*approaches taken by the Asbestos nest Ftps Association. One booklet; Che "ork Practices Booklet, indicated at there ia- problem and betels what we should do about it. The other, . . >oklt discussed the risk of exposures to water carried In A/C Pipe and . dicated that the facts force a conclusion chat there is sot a problem with C Pipe with' sem-agreeslve waters. Should the Ins cltuta similarly address >o areas and indicated that we have a work practices booklet and also a 4,, oklet to Indicate that exposure to asbestos in friction materials Is not a a' 'robleu is the brake shop? The question of the type of pamphlets or to be published by Che Institute would have to be worked out by the /ce. The Secretary was directed to contact Mr. Karsh to sec up a atins to go over Raybestos plans as regards a work practices manual. Uagner and Mr. leaver viii join the Secretary in any contact with Hr. Harsh. -J- -ar.vary 19. 19 ?6 CD^irtCAir^s t-^rq r^r/rzis a:s> users of fp.ictio:? jcatssials - Secretary distributed *5 the Committee members copies oz Saybestos "Do's I't's" as resards asbestos. They include this, as an insert in their 2 lining packages. It has a brief statement on hew to nicir^ire problems :h asbestos in the workshop.' * `r.r.: , j*. .. I??OR?AtfT-*~5 1 . ' ASBESTOS DUST HAZARD r' Do not breathe dust. \-i- %Vv*'' ' . - c i. < \ . : > < -* ! ^QC ^se al? hose fat cleaning. . *` Do not cachine without dust collection equipment. * Do*use vaeuun or vet. cleaning methods. Do disease of dust in sealed container. Do wear mask if unable .to avoid dust.**.' *1*' #i *' * * * * 1 \r was stated that this was a good condensed sec of instructions which sight : the raessag* across. A lengthy one page or longer report would probably : be of much use at this point. It ua* suggested that other aecbers sight s such an insert for distribution with tbeir brake linings, blocks, aad \ t facings. ... '/*;. .. - . '-aver shaved a part of a Raybestos elide program aimed at brake personnel, s section on asbestos was but one section of so eight section slide program ith audio) on brake servicing. The slides were in the form of a question i answer program to indicate good practices la control of asbestos dust the brake shop. These slides where Section 8 of she fUybestcs brake clinic ^graa. . * ' ' vas suggested that perhaps the Institute should make a public relations lease on work that industry is doing to control asbestos both in their own :ps an& .in their -customer'-s -shops. Perhaps communications with employees i users micht be supplemented vitb communications with the general public : the media. It was stated that this Bight be better done.if the Institute : a vork practices manual and could then make it known that such a manual ; available. u*re the Institute ta attempt coverage in the general media is more likely Dr. Selikoff and others would gee the last word and early .eases by the Institute would be of bo positive value. The general media note likely to accept statements by groups such as Hou&t Sinai and night -.ittiae or distort any contribution of industry. It was suggested that .eases might be made is automotive trade publications. The Secretary Seated chat when the Institute published the "Recommended Procedures for _ iuciag Asbestos Dust During Stake Servicing" Teleanes were made and published several magazines for the automotive trade. stated by one neater that aa avenue chat is open and should be used, : he personally had used, was that Individuals should give Congressmen nts of view from industry, letters to the editor and to*legislators may P in arriving at some balance before decisions are made. A Committee 1 I os siwrco^anss January 19, 1778 ( Inced our char there^as a recent release free OSHA concerning the *> Industry which was less chan coc? 11 nans ary to the Americas foundry .ry. In any pubiiescalations encounter la the general media It is west * that the Industry, position will cone in second best.*'^r; . :ards ccrrsun tear ions with employees, Jir. Stone indicated chat-the Beadix".'.: .on Materials Division used the Johns--Manville slide and audio prograa '.eit '`ijorkinf' with Asbestos," and shoved it_eo'oev employees. This prograa sliable in cassette and slide font from Johns-Manvilla 1q Janver, Colorado. 5 Seodix prograc, they added their.ovn slides wish pictures of presses ;t:ing equipment shading dust collecting equipment added t: control ios levels in the'work place. The slide was narrated by a Setidix Safety /isor and particularly Benticned names and described the operations cf tplcyee. This program was tailored well to its 'audience, and it was 5ted that other members night wish to use the Johss-Haaville ''Working Asbestos'1 prograa in similar fashion.- It was suggested chat no "canned" am can work satis facto Bily for all members, and by tailoring J-H's am to their m-m employees'as ^ar.dix did, it say be a valuable tool r.doctrinating employees. ' : - i' ' gerd further co&unicat ions with users of friction aacerials, it was seed that a work practices aaatial could serve es a outline for preparation slide program. Mr. Fenner indicated that he would be happy to help put - a slide prograa if he could receive input as regards what should. * fcht slides. Based on a work practices manual as an outline, . -r felt chat it would be a reasonable job to prepare a slide prograa ... cesser could arrange for his to take slides either la one cf their own - es or in a customer's work place, Hith photographs developed in this on, J4i could tie a slide prograa into a work practices manual. ' A3T ASSPCIATS$ --OSHA TRAIL'S CIT1DS ecretsry Indicated that this Item was cade as agenda item as the agenda repared In December 1977. Subsequent Co preparing the agenda, the cute assembled a critque of the Abt Associates work for OSHA. The cute replied to Abt Associates on December 18, 1977. The cctmeuts - ... t Associates were based os material prepared by the Secretary and , ;ved by Ur. tJagner and Hr. Heaver. In addition to the comments by the .cute, the Asbestos Information Association replied. Also Ur, Armstrong .ed for the Bendir Corporation end Johns-Kanville forwarded cements ited by Dr. Kotin. * A-* ~ . .. is generally commented that the Abe Associates Trainer's Guide appeared s an anatcurisk presentation which had not been researched sufficiently ;tablisb the facts. It was felt that Industry had responded to this :, and that if their consents are considered It will have benefited all i-ned. *' DRAfT FOR PROPOSED AXA PAMPHLET (I.H. VBATOQ aveober 1976 Mr. Heaver prepared a draft for a pamphlet for AtA entitled, . istos Dust hazards and Brake lining and Clutch Service Operations." . - leaver distributed copies of this recommendation to several parties and no \ c -7- Januarv 1^, 19 70 of his write-up. This vas covered la Ms nemo to the Asbestos Study Cocnittae >n January U, 1973._ Mr. '-leaver felt chat sost of Che comments in Che ' t- - Secretary's eritique'uere valid but chat he didn't agree' coneemitg reaeval of the second sentence concerning mesacheliai 'tuaors ia persons involved-with autosibile brake-servicing.*- y -:* t s-v.-s; It vas stated chat this 'pamphlet would assuniogly be ad longer viable if the T.'Sl is to work on writing up'a work practices manual.' It is unlikely that*1" Che Asbestos Information Association vill put out a pamphlet on this subject if the Institute prepares a work practices r.anual. However, information in * this write-up would be of value in vritic? up a work practices manual. It was surges ted that anyone using the inert*; jctory section of Mr. leaver's draft be particularly careful of the wording, So further action is ccnterplated as concerns chis draft pending action taken as regards the Institute preparation of a work practices nanua-i. . . 4 % S,-**; . CTTS'J'SK ?K5DUCT SAFSTT C0MH2SSI0K--SSCAIX FSOCFDUHES The Secretary advised that he had been contacted by Mr. Adrian Coains of the - Auto Friction Corporation concerning the Consumer Product Safety Coatissicn and its procedures for recall. Re was particularly concerned that If in the future the Ccusunet Product Safety Comission were to ban the sale of asbestos containing friction materials, that disastrous costs would be 'incurred is e major recall, Mr. Conics expressed his concern in e letter that he wrote to* he Consumer Product Safety Commission on procedures used during the Iris recall. Mr. Cotaias wrote indicating his concern chat' the economic burden of any recall should be borne equally by all members of the distribution chain. 'Aa wrote this as a pTivate citizen on bis own letterhead and did not bring in the subject of friction materials. The Secretary indicated to * Hr. Cc&ir.s chat he did not want to raise the question of banning the friction materials for fear it would put the idea into motion. ' , * The Secretary recently wrote Mr. Coolns when CPSC banned the use of artificial ecaerizint aateriais and patching ccepouod*. The Consumer Product Safety ; Cocrissios ,.issued the ..rsaulanlcms .under -the Consumer Product Safety Act '(C?SA) rather than under the federal Hazardous Substance Act (FESA). By promulgating under CPSA the regulations do not require there-purchase of products by manufacturers, distributors and retailers. Mr. Cotsins feels that individuals In the Friction Materials 'Standards Institute should make their concern known to the Consumer Products Safety Coseleslon by writing them directly. He does not feel that the Institute or Corporations should be Involved at this time. * Be indicated that he was asking the Institute to make a recomeadacion to its members concerning recall procedures by CPSC. At this point the Committee members indicated that they endorsed the idea of encouraging individuals to write Che Consumer Product Safety Commission concerning recall procedures and to advocate thee the burden be borne equally. This would be ' the case If any such regulation were to take place voider the Consumer Products Safety Act rather than under the Federal Hazardous Substance Act. .r. Fenner indicated that chare is s question as to whether friction materials can be considered a consuser product. There is an effort on hand now to expand the definition of a consuser product. There Is a litigation involving the Anaconda Corporation concerning wiring used in the residential housing. This has to do with the susceptibility to fires under certain installation asbsstqs study commutes 8- January 19, X978 litigated as to whether aluminum wire in residential housing can be regulated by the Coasucer Product Safety Commission. la addition, Mr, Fenner pointed cut chat Che study which is nov(under way by..W. ,T. Kearney Associate*-is examining the question of asbestos products .chat.nay be considered, consumer/...`J products. The^Institute had been -called by Mr. Strickland of Kearneyl Associa tes concerning whether asbestos was used in various friction devices used on equipBent ocher than automotive brakes.. - This included such items, as typewriter s X-ray sachines, bicycle brakes, tape.recorders and so forth.' At that tis:-. ,,- Mr. Strickland indicated chat his firm was working on a study for the. Cons user' . Products Safety Commission where asbestos was used in consumer products..-. It---* was suggested chac the Institute take no action as regards the Consumer Product" Safety Co=sigsios until the Kearney report has been coopleted. ... .A. INSTITUTE SPONSORSHIP OF ASBESTOS SSTfTl:A* The Chairman indicated that in response to a suggestion by Hr. Messier, President of the Institute, it was considering sponsoring a seminar similar to that which was held in 1975 otijhe asbestos problem.*: AC that seminar, the Institute had a presentation'by Johns-Manvi lie Sales" Corporation with *V" featured, appearance by JO:. Byung Xvon of QSfiA. This particular seminar was r : * well received because it was held within six to eight weeks after OSSA had -r JE* made proposals to revise the asbestos standard in October 1975. -c .- Mr. Wagner indicated that he had calked with Ferro Tech and they would be . happy to cake a presentation at such a seminar. Mr, Wagner indicated that.:. Ms. wca who spoke at out December 1975 Seminar is no longer with OSSA, to ; .... response to lit. Vagner's inquiry to OSSA they indicated that perhaps they could provide a speaker for ao SMS I seminar. Hr. "agner had contacted-- - Mrs. 'Helen Farrington ac OSSA. Mr. Tenner indicated that if we were to hold., such a seminar he would recotcaeod chac Hr. Grover Wraan, GSHA's Director of ~ - the Office of Health Standards Development be invited to address those attending. * He stated that Mr. Wrens is a personable and interesting ^talker. The Secretary. advised that he had contacted companies such as Amoco Tools, Nllflsk of America, Ter-lux lac. and Tempo Products Company-. These companies aell- --'i-'* re equipment used in the brake shop and some have devices for exhausting dust^ frcn the work area and from brake .ansoobaics. It vs suggested 'that 'the ^ 1. seminar be planned around the brake tepaie shop rather then the manufacturing r plant. It was suggested thee Mr. Jerry Cusamaso be invited to such a ; . r;. . - seniaar. Mr. Cueamano is a consultant on dust collection. The.Chairman r* asked if Jehns-Maaville would help vith the presentations Mr. Fenner - indicated chat if such a seminar were held they would be;happy to assise * ; io sone fashion. * : ' r.-- -- f t- `v .. It was; stated that a seminar at this point might detract from the Committee's , work on the work practices manual. It vas suggested that the Institute not , _ dilute* the Committee's efforts by scheduling a seminar at this time.' As there .w. has been nothing further on OSTIA plans a seminar might be premature.* Also, It was suggested chat if the Institute prepares a work preetlces manbal it might b well at that time to schedule a seminar to introduce the. work, practices manual. As such a seminar the Institute could promote the Ides of using this work rscrices manual is brake service shops. Reporters from trade magatlnee could be invited. It was generally agreed that it would be well to hold up on the-- . idea of a seminar until the Institute has takes actios on the work practices - - manual.. At completing of the work practices manual a seminar might be the : proper place to promote Che work practices booklet. Mo action will be taken on * S*niar s? ** as sr.sios stvst cc?r`:rt 9- Jaauary 13, 19 7B . - STATVS OF OSKA RZCflUTIfriS OSr A$5gS7QS The Asbestos XnforbfTtow Association has advocated the work practices approach ?- as a means of contra Iliac asbestos dust for the construction Industry standard. The construction-* industry' is* differesC than Che manufacturing industry because*' of the transie?sc work force and other such characteristics. There Is* soae.-r- . - possibility that OSHA* nay possibly go with a work practices oviented regulation *. for the construction, Industry standard.- If a contractor was using certified. *4 - work practices' It eijrht relax Che 'need for other control procedures. : : ;... As regards the rtanufacturing standard, no public hearing has been held and pcae has been scheduled. It is possible chat the construction industry standard sight be part of any public hearing where OS&& is considering further ectica on the-- manufacturing standard. Mr. Fenner indicates that to his knowledge nothing- ` . r has been done on the construction standard and ha does* oot foresee any action ' ' in 1978. The proposed changes Iti th*e oanufacturing standard that were cade ia 2; 1975 are awaiting evaluation la a study *by' a group contracted for by OSHA. . Consad has yet to complete a-study of the economic Impact of the proposals- *.*;/* which were in the October 1975 proposals for the sacufsecuring segment of the* industry. Further, the'Researcb Triangle Institute was to aake an economic* : study for the construction industry. Drafcs'of these studies will not be ready* before April 1978. tn ewssery, there apoeers to be little action that can be * expected In the near future as regards either the construction standard or the nar.ufanewring standard. .* 'JJ.Z1 ''-i -> OSSA ''GZ-iyXC 5TA?mAK3`SI^ST.^CIS ?03TG .Vs? OCCl?ATI*7*1 CARCIHOGEMXC *ZSK :1 The proposed "generic'' standard for identification, classification and Tabulation of toxic substances posing a potential occupational carcinogenic risk 'taa published in October 1977. These prooosals ere referred to as the "generic" ** * - * standard. The' proposal is to have a basic standard written, and then the blanks could be filled in depending upon the particular suspected carcinogen. Any consents concerning this generic standard were to be in by January 31* 1978, ' . (Subseeuently postponed to February 28, 1978.) This proposed-''genetic" standard la a major step by aSRA and apparently is the thinking of the new Assistant Secretary of tabor, Sula Sin(than. The aala taraec -of 'this generic standard would be the chenical industry. Industry has set up a group to present their viewpoint* as regards this generic standard. Several manufacturers forced the American Industrial Health Council (A18C). As asbestos will still be regulated', under the earlier asbestos regulation* there is 00 action that the- Institute' could take at this tine. It is, of course', a standard which* could have a float substantial iepact on all industry, '? r CAM ygrtsiyj SMIFGT7CT ASagSTOS STANDARD In July 1977 *tr. Douglas Fraser, President of Catted Automobile Workers - r-;**,* petitioned the Honorable Ray Marshall, Secretary of labor, to establish an emergency standard for exposure to asbestos, in line vith the proposed changes OSUA aade on September 30, 1975. There was a question as to the status of ' . his petition. The UAV'e petition for an emergency standard vae denied *by the 'oerenent of labor. The Department of labor politely denied the petition aus* there wee an exts tin* standard is effect, and the issues raised by the proposed revisions to the standard had not been resolved. 'xxosn coC: ?T?.*CT-- I* S? ICATI*V? OF HEALTH HAZARDS IS BRAKH UV.I^G E?Aia S*3?B On January 5, 1978 there was a rseeticr he 14 at Mount Sinai Hospital concerning the NI0S3 contract ?or investigation of health hazards la brake lining repair shops. This was a Session with industry, NXOSH and Mount Siaai people cc . review the progress of this particular study. ..Mount Sinai Hospital received a 160,000 contract fro* KI0S3..for this study... The Secretary attended this* ' . .2 session along `with several members ot this coaittee Including Mr. B.J, Iwarssoa I. H. Weaver and Or. E.\ Stone.- Also attending were hr.. Harsh free Haybestos, >tr. Chase from Johns-Kaavilie, and Mr. Mereness fro* the Asbestos Information Association. Two representatives frests KZOSS hardly participated in the session, the session was controlled by both Dr. Seiikoff and Dr. Nicholson of Mount Sinai. A brief report wag written on the session In which some Questions were raised about the impossibility of locating a cohort exposed to short fibers only who ' would not alao have been exposed to longer fibers. Also there ware several * " comments concerning the use of workers in New ?ork Municipal garages. Froo'J/ the connects made by the union representative there is considerable difficulty in not only locating the garages but in locating the worker# and knowing the ..1 types of exposures to which they are subjected.. This discussion was apparently held la lice with instructions when the contract was issued. As indicated, there was no actual report from NIOSS #s to. the pro/trese of.the study*; <...........- . . I QUEBEC PROPOSALS PQR ASSirTOS MAfrJ?ACTJ*ITC TKWSTML- - , Hr. Reis felt it sight be of interest to know the outcome of a recent study concluded by the Province of Quebec, with input fro* among others Arthur D. Littl Company. Quebec ie attempting*to bring more manufaceurlng jobs involving asbestos into the Province rather than just shipping asbestos outside the area. This study indicated that at best there were three areas where Quebec Right participate in asbestos products nanufsecuring, Those were: -<I) Asbestos cement sheets, <2) Molded friction oat a rials, and (3) Flooring felts. .It was indicated that at most 100 Jobs might be created in .these manufacturing areas in Quebec. . It was apparently Quebec's hope thee considerably acre manufacturing jobs might be opened up la that Province. - . .. .. The Chairman of the Cowittee and the Members expressed their thanks to Hr. Rais' and Hr* Fenner for their offer* of help in preparation of e work practices annual. They also extended the Committee** thanks for their participation to ' . . this meeting. There being no other business bfought to the attention of the Cocffitte*. upon motion duly ade seconded and unanimously passed, it was; - *2VO.VED: To adjourn. s Adjourned; 2;a0 F.H. . . .. *' . t, V. Orislane Executive Director : i.