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FILE NAME: Metropolitan Life (ML) DATE: 1935-1963 DOC#: ML316 DOCUMENT DESCRIPTION: Services to Asbestos Industry on Comp Claims, etc. KK, SJUL1 MBTiwoLru* life issorabce cokpisi Fradcrick H. Ecker, Pre&dent le v York C ity. ' - "jT .g-T' S-*-****1' Ut i4u^;^ur Anthony J. Lam*, M.D. Assistant Medical Director* 'a* ;p,' fandiver Brown, Boq., JohaM*nvllI, S# Madleon Avenue, M*w York, I.Y. Dear Hr. Brown: 'M rV*1' ktS -*3 Many thank* indeed for your letter of May 25th tad the \ two tolu*e.3 of the record of the cue of Botler. I ,U very glad ^ indeed to get thia aterial end appreciate your eourtesy in tend- V leg it to . . 1 -. j-.... `4R"' I aa no* back in Be* York for good end hope to drop la and see you sue tine In the near future. - is yon are probehly aware, there are a great aaay of y thue suite being filed, particularly in Bocheater. Z hare had several attorneys and other interest peopla cone to m for such advice as I could giro then. These people always eh lf l^can refer then to others bo hare had sinilar experiences. I w a elway^ < ;-\<- refrained fron actioning the Johns-Manrille Conpny or anybody^1 .V:r- ; connected with it in any way tut Z aw wondering whether there. i : sight not be sons advantage in a cowamnity of interuta, so to" . speak, for after all alsery loves oowpany. : V... `. V ' Mr. Folger of Harris, Beach, folger. Bacon and Keating, 40 Franklin Street, Bocheater, lew York, Attorney for the lew York Central Re11.road, le handling a great many of these eues. A Mr. Hardigg of the Anerlean Society of Mechanical Engineers is trying to get up one sort of a Manufacturers' Defease Association on bebi^ of the abrasive industrie*, and a Mr. d* Blnla, who usd to he the head of the safety department of the Dupont organisa tion Is also trying to get together sons organisation for the benefit of the Bocheater gdfutorers |8p* v* -inf*j&wlthriy o? * - *';*t&tnde;;ths*.hstC ihthfr * -F-- ***i k. 4 44A* 4a * *h<Vft aHttMlj^tv. .Sr. '?v*J :s & # i t P '^ S ^ k i^ (Signed) A. , Lsnu V ~ *. n* ; ***'. t . f -* v.*.c-y **-;5. ..-.y i t -> *i,w*a .'>* *' -*V - C~- V'.' 1 f:` `' ;. C '-' 'i'* J -* * 1 *V) <> . . .-i*-* - *.*--.-----l -y-r,i^ * V - B Y DIRECT WIRE F R O M - '' ' ; *. tt if* t, ,v * *\ ' ' ts w CusorSBvia fi. - . V, 11 SIONS Tbit M luD>na B > C itln r TJipmtn or ObW- ' J f y NU-NhkrUM. . V *. __br__auflbabtioe* jt.- NL-NWktLnr V lC-&*nd!CUe _ rioktboecorjneM '- `*7 JJLT C*U*NWtal o t * i A J t e the %ddrn~ '*C-*;.*.-vs** TWtnMtAMW' m*. 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' '.V*'., * l * *,i {e.A'y ** f.-'.3V*fJ i-V-W'w* * TBS CXWSANY WILLArriSCUTZ SUGGESTIONSFftOMITSBATSONSCONCERNING ITSSOIVICS :i"ZC^ 6 7 7 Tr.yr 30ks r _- Bridgeport,, Conn, October 19, 1935 Dr* it* J p McConnell, Ass't. Metileni Director, Industrial Health Section, Mebropclit.-.n life' Insurance Co., How lork City, My deci Dr, M^Cunudlli stfcjE Asbestos Dust at North Charleston Plant, As you kro?, our plant i t North Charleston, as veil as the other Divisions, h-kir* bean working with your Corapany for a long time in the .aorgurng of information, addleal end other wise, regarding Aster. T`m r *# ^Ay,A ,U**v*JpHV*c: ; Af Vn f<' /**.? { *. Via hnvo had number of suits, re you arc aware, for which you ha7c assist*.;] ui to prepare , and cl the; last trial, your Hr. jVnnel fee.'reified, YVe have depended on y .ur Company to present certain informaLioii that our attorney, Hr. Julian Mitchell, of Charleston,, C. C. .derired, end we were-, at standstill to kx.cn'. v,hat to do and cany on vita those suit:, for X again say we had dopeneed on your Company's assistance. Hat.trolly, we were very much upset Inst week when iL-. Jeffords reporite that v.c . could not liApoet any court assistance from your department, due to order you had received irair. your superiors, Y*'e imraeciiately wontud to have you talk over the situation with Mr. Mitonoil, to se* what he could co, rr.u when they got in touch with uO and. asked v.hat 1 thought of subpoena ing Hr. Feline!, 1 told then frankly that it looked to me as if that was the only thing we cou'iu do, if we were going to have the help of Mr. Fennel in these particularly important, cases. It may look odd to you that this subpoena was served, but roally there was nothing else for ua to co, .nd I could not sta any other way out under the eircunstanccs, after Ur. Mitchell had pointed out v.hat it was going to mean to him to have Ltr. Feline*1 there. I do hope you will take this into consideration and that the assist ance of Ur. Fehuel will be given ua very cheerfully, I can recogniLC the- positi ;r. of the insurance com pany in testifying in ordinary cases of this Kind, but as I see it, these particular cases of oura at Churierton really come into a different category. * ^ Via carried Cosnensatiun and Health Insurance with ''your Corapany when these suits were first brought up at Charles ton, and of course, under the policies, va vere not covered against damage suits for-Asbostosls. . The Metropolitan Insurance Co., nor no other insurance company in the United States, hed any data that was worth very much on Asbestos Bust or Aabustosis, and naturally your Company wanted health statistics and information regarding Asbestos Dust on the lungs. Our Company was more then willing to cooperate with . you, and v<e also induced Johns-Manvillu to cooperate, end your Company started with a Dust Survey of o-number of the s sbus too plants. Yitien your appropriation for this work ran out, you request ed that it be carried on unt'l ft new appropriation uoulci cured bv your Company, and we did so. Later on, we hired a cion, <ar* M n d e r to work under your control, but at the expense of Johns-hanvixle and ourselves. This e.1.1 led us to believe that under the conditions, we would have your assistance in trying these unfair suits, which would eventually bo a benefit to you, ana also have considerable bearing on the Dust racket,, about which so much has been published lately. I feel ns if your Compuny has not taken into consideration all tnese various factors when turning down our request for Mr. Fehnel*s pres ence at the-, trials in. Chariest,on Mr. Fehnel being the only man who has been following the details of the AsbestosDust through all its various ramifications* . . Nature 11?, if wo could hrive lores eon the attitude the M'-troroX tan Insurance Co,<s Menical Department. would take at this lite dc,i;r: mil hnve htreci lpe-.-.U15.cv and J,e would have tod all the cuta which your Company now has. and as you know, we have spent large sums to msk-s the Charleston Plant an ideal one, V'ith your assistance. . I do not believe that by Mr. Pshnol testiiying at Char leston; it will establish a precedent, ns it is barely lively you will have this type of case ccwu up aain for a.any years, and 1 am also certain it is very questionable if you will get the epe amount of assistance fiom any tv/c companies that you havo boon get ting from Johns-Manvillc -and ourselves, and moreover, it was our Intention to draw in other asbestos companies in this survey as noon ar the time was right to bring them in> and this would meun a trotaendows amount of information On Asbestos Dust and Ashes tor;is in the possession of the Metropolitan Insurance Co., who would oe tne only ones in tho United States, so far os we know, having thus in formation. X have been trying to gut in touch with my friend, Mr. Janes Kavanagh, Vico President of the Metropolitan Insurance Co., to endeavor to have him make an appointment with Mr. Loker, your President, so I con go ovov tills matter Vii^h hits veiy care fully and thoroughly, and 1 hope to be able to g o s o next Tuesday. Unfortunately, I*shall be away the latter part of this week. Very .truly yours, or*br*--ur** President M e t r o p o l it a n Lif e 1In s u r a n c e Co m p a n y Frederick H.Ecker, President N ew Y o r k C ity william j. McConnell,m.d. tA asta ia nf ^D irector October 28, 1935 Mr. S. Simpson, President, Raybestos-Manhattan, Inc. Bridgeport, Conn. Dear Mr. Simpson: This nill acknowledge your letter of October 19* I shall be very pleased to see you Tuesday when you are in New *ork. I assure you that arrangements had been made to assist your company in the present litigation. Very truly yours, /J. McConnell, M.D. Assistant Medical Director TH-rector. Industrial Health Section Bridgeport, Conn j October M , 1U36 Hr. L. II. Jfiords, General Haneyer, General Asbestos '& Kubbe-r division, llorth Che.Tier ton, G. 0. My a ear ''Jeff": . I have your letter of the 7th, with reference to visit of Dr. H. F. Wilson, a representative of the South Caro lina Doara of Health, at which time, he requested that permis sion be given to the United States Department of' Health* to . make nn examination of the plant and take Xrny pictures of our employees. . I have no objection to his making an inspection of the factory, but I hesitate at this tine to permit an Xroy ex amination of ail our employees, for if there Xrt.y records are going to be mace available to all the shyster lawyers and doc tors In the county, such as v.e have t<:*.-n up against the Inst couple of years, v.e may have a n .cnaloiss number of suits against us, especially as there m a. so i'ev. (ualified doctors who can raao .-n asbestosis Xrny. This was verified to me in Peterborough this v,-.w;, when I was talking to L-r. Faulkner, Con" inr ionor of Health for the Province of Ontario, when ho told me* there wore practically no doctors that could tell the difference between asbestos cast and granite- oust. ' 'For our own information, I should like'to have an Xray of al_ the-, employees, and if v.v could get this information from the United States Department of Health without it being . piucta in the hanas of every "Ton, Dick raid Harry" in the country, I would be -willing to lot them t-vauo the Xroys, as it would be one way of got ling them without arousing very much suspicion on the part of the employees. It would, no doubt, be Inlerprotec s hav ing some conn cu tier. with the Social Security Act, but I certainly so not want to bring a lot of suite down on us just about the line v,;. .re getting through with the old ones. .y >. r Am sending copy of tills letter to Mr. Mitchell. f\* N^:-j,* W r y truly yours, w* >'-G. *p S. Have received a letter from Mr. Mitchell no '-r:vc writ ten him as per enclosed copy. You can hold up :nswer to the Health Department until we he .r from Dr. Liiniui. W. V * * V .. * Julian Mitchell, 3sq., Mitchell and Horlbeck Charleston, S. C. . f Dear Hr. Hitchell:- . OctobA s o , 1836 Hi W*MMfisi . have road yoll S W r i f t t pSblicHe" thtSa??"eU >hS i5*i" hIig?or1thi Offio'e of -Inaustrial aid hi told ra that the State of South Carolina had asked his assistance dn making 8 survey of industial plants in that State. t I think this will be very much, to your advantage. Dr. Saysrs L s had w i d e ^industrial experience aid enjoys the highest fewer end /confidence of industrialists end employs all over t * * "*1* S?8# rthether he will make X-ray examinations of employees, I do not knew, ( St Sll ask * 7 Sayers, when he goes to Charleston, to got in .ouch \with you. . t . - s ? 1! : % ^ ^ . H2 i s l 5 b u S S "rtihSft,s:iioB e; ?Sen?irBs or iecafitie^ ^ y H ^ f t h S r t h a identities of ^ents stui- `f t ^ e - o ' r t ^ t * . Sayerfmade^n^nthro-sillcosis n ^ f e S t h r e ? L Sagans o f p 1 n n s m i a ! y? M s study was made at the Joint request of the mine operators* association end the labor*ffjn}?8+^Public fieelth a- - t r ^ ^ y rr : 8t r K : f ^ ^ ^ U o W the sten card procedure of the Public Health Service. . Ho indivuduals* records ere ever divulged by the ITou mey recollect thet. the M o 6er Clinic in Oklahoma was run Jointly .-'/ the % t 6theySweie andj f J ^ S t S ' J S h S S ' i l S e t " soever, with the single e..ce.tion of th . j c t m sure "hat iiH rrjs a '(the State Boer: of Health. ,, rula the Public Heelth Service studies ere'published but I believe thet this is not en invariable custom, depending upon - number end their generei interest. . best Mease wishes, I am, give ay wary best xegerds to . Jeffords Sincerely yours -, x v ^ ' / A. J.Lanza, H. D. . pcnrix^U V Assistant Medicei Director Sf l\LLt,.*--U ' ; g N..V 3 fc ... V , / CH 0480 / / i) I / i/ / / ,/ /v . November 5, 1936 Mr. E* H. Joffords, General Manager, General Asbestos & Rubber Division, North Charleston, S, C. My dear nJoff': I suppose you have received from Mr. Mitchell a copy of Dr, Lansa's 'letter regard ing taking Xray pictures of our employees by the United States Department of Health. In view of this letter, you may advise the Public Health Service that the may take the pictures, with the understanding that they are not available: for any purpose whatever except public health information, and you want to stress the fret that tve do not want them giv en to shyster lawyers' and doctors so ns to be the subject of suits, for, as you Know, v.e have had enough adjustments' for any one company. Wo arc perfectly willing to help them in every possible way, but they in turn must help us so far as they cun legally do so. So-G. Very truly yours, Cc. to i<ir. Julian Mitchell. f 1 ' > u . * -\$k; ...v*f . . >*t V */ . ..-IT- .:*:,.V^- ' December William J . Fehnel, Esq*, ..J :.^/v t./ C/o Jiygieno Division, . ` '.#*.v Metropolitan Life Insurance Co, 1 , !'Madison Avenue* . ; ' ,v *: r New York City'.. -, "" . t... 1 *if < 29th, 1942. . /. ./r- , ,"1V 'v*/;N. *V.v\.- 'S<i** '.M Dear Bill*- *. ;-y >&; *-&S - I am enclosing herewith a letter which I have written'i to Dr. Lanr.a, and would like you to read, end knowing that ho !, is now in the service of his Country I aa asking if you would-. do me the favor to forward it to him, and wliat I h:'.ve said in \ that letter about tho valuable services ho has rendered I can. ' also say with absolute sincerity that the services which you have rendered in helping e g out of -ithose cases in the past have been equally as valuable, and yon hive made a great many per sonal sacrifices to be present to testify ohd assist us* Per sonally I do not see how a man v;ho is gaining in eight and wor. ing at tho kind of, Job he has at the Navy Yard, down in the ' holds of ships, can.be suffering from Asbestosis, though Dr. . Smith in the letter he wrote to Mr. Mitchell said he was dls- abled as a result of the disease he had. . With ray best regards,'* Vary sincerely you.1;,, P.3. I presume that you will receive this lottT by-about 12 or 1 o*clock tomorrow. I will telephone you at the office of the .Metropolitan Life Insurance Company at ab.*ufc 3 o 'clock. I \ 7 m Y} !* i-71'1 I . \ y, M-, v. k" i i'' Dr*.. 4. J. lanr.n, ' ". Assistant i/.oclicp.l Director,' :- .iVatmpolitan life Insurance Co., 1 SledIson Avc., .. : . . Now lork City# v \ . . ;* Docor-ibc. r 29th,* 1942* . .*\ /. ' ` y ' ` . ' *1,/ * * * f i j .I.*;.**, . !; ' ' < -V*:- -'Wr\>y bear Dr. larizai- m . , 'v ' . i * ' We nay possibly have another suit based on alleged Asbestosis'by one ,E. T* Hill,.who-worked with us-for-a good many years, and who wns treated by Dr# Wild for pleurisy, *nd v;ho only received during the tine h e 'worked v.'lth us sick benefits amount in?, to n little less than $10#00, -and left our employ L. _ i . t _ _ . . . . *.< . . . . 1 . ^ i< 4 . M *1*4 4>U 4*1i< \ *\l# (*r V #**% rt J* i*' k n 1 / r.* V ^ * ' ' * . Acbcntoals. .* A picturo of this man's chest wan taken by Dr. Taft iri aeptcr-ibor, 1941, and another in November, 1942, and Taft's report ?>ivas no indication of any condition cue to his employment* H o 1- ever, "c are yettiny hr* Taft to send his pit-tea on to Dr* ramie- ' " 'assistance which has boen so invaluable to ua in the past* .with uy regards,. . Vary sincerely yours, ' .r.r / \ *9 IkSMUMClAioiAianr pot no iwdt op iw c m .cn **" "tU M V CuZ IT. Beocaber 7, 1942 Hr. Yandiver Brown* Secretary Johna-Xar.vllle Cor-'orati'jn 22 lart <Cth Street Bear Xr. Brown: ' Thanh you very naoh for tout oh ooTrrlntth* interpretations of fl'na on'TCeyno- nntfTifaJ3 l_____ ________ _____ * -- - -- Lite yourself; X aa surprised that ther should reveal evidences of ssbeetosls-llhe rmr*`.on la view of tha limited exposure. X an afraid*I cannot arree with Lasts ar.l oConnell,s interpretation aa aatatlve* Clearly, tha filna show Aaflnlta abaoraal ahadova*. I voadar vhathar theaa rentlenen oould hata axanlnad tha aaaa filna that or, danpaos and X saw* In tha aaaa of Lcahy,*ve both, of eourie,*reeocnlsed tha prtaant*aTldanoa of old In* faction, but In addition to this* hit filna and * Reynold*a also show other M r s difruaa rotation which X would only interpret as due to inhaled dust. Aa 9 indicated previously* ana would azpaot that other nan in tha sane (roup, sxpoaed similarly should also re veal evidence of ohanfe* X hope we M y hr ve the opportunity to explore theta affects further* both in subsequent filas af these individuals and those of other nan in thla plant* laser U0:ME Leroy ' Director i PLAINTIFF'S cony f o r ^ Ur vc re R ro vn , S e c r M k r y R aybestos-Manhattan. Inc. lte*. 120 lrad7^ Xoffc January 19,19**. /! _ /<^A/ r// i\ I / ' '/ Leroy Ul^ OardMr# M.D. Director, Th* Barattao -ImSontorj for tli# Stody of fuboroolool of tbo Idward L. Trod foundation, lew York* / ' l/ Door Dootor flordner, Boplylng to year lottor of January 12th asking to ho permitted to u k i o array of th fllas of lantwta olojin ooold adrlN that Dootor Lone* baa the flloo In hi ton ana it would bo ootlofaotory for yon to azanine then and aystoaatioally reoord any hang or other Inrorootloo that yoa with to obtain* Than are alo aono fllaui at Manhola that t e w boon taken of yroapeotire oaployee hho haro mrfcod in other lad*-tr***-^f* aay bare teitteuit and thee are In possession tf tte Offloo at Kaahela. Fa. and if yoa at to look at aono of theae, 111 poa plaaao ooataats- ' Hr* 0.. Ollley. assistant Uoneral Manager . United States dabestoa Dirlslon of Mayboatoa-Manhattan. Xno*. Manhsla, Feanafteraula* and he will be t m j glad to how thoa to yoa* Of cooroo It 1 understood that oar_naoe ^ in any way in the oxaalaatloa orTTyoor report of.tte m w For a natter of yoar reoordo and tho Metropolitan Zaanranoo Cospan/ xt 1 alright bat X nen general publication. . * Toor eory truly. 9* Fro aIdont 0 XNO. The Sa r a n a c Laboratory FOR THE STUDY OF TUBERCULOSIS OF THE EDWARD l . TRUDEAU FOUNDATION S a r a n a c L a k e , N.Y. January 31, 1544 / Hr. Cur.'.ner Dimpson, President nr ybe?top-Mi.;:h.11 r.n , Ir:c Room 1C3 120 Brof.cV-.-g.y, lier Xcrh Dear iir. Simeon: , I f.ppreciF.te very much your letter of the 12th "hioh r.vs.ited r.iy on my return from s. recent trip. I eu rrrr.teful to you for your offer to co operate in the matter of revi&'-in." fllr.*.G of "our employees. I enpect to see Dr. Lr.nra on bondsy and '*111 ash him to vive :.:y recess to those films in his possession. " .` I do not believe that it T,ould be profitable for us to revie" the pre-employment films that are at hsnheim r.s ve are "oartlaularlv conp.r'rnpd .l now with the evolution o:11 nscc-stoc.is. mentionin'.' the X shall, of course, refrr *'*> ifiimir -Q-r <n mublication but cI : .w ;no"ledL:e ny indebtedness tc a rrcup of comanies "he h-ve made such a stud" torsicle. h'lth beet ^ishc-s, 0047i t * g* \-r ,* 1. < ' UNITED STATES ASBESTOS DIVISION MANHEIM, PENNA. May 2, 1944 A C m s-m y Mr; S. Sir.pson, President Eaybostos -l-anhat t a n ,I n c , Stratford, Connecticut Bear Mr, Simpson: Re: Industrial Hygiene Foundation of Ame rica, Inc_ After our conference in New York in January about the Metropolitan Life Insurance reoort on dust counts taken in the textile arranged with the'Industrial Hygiene Foundation of America to send one of their engineers here to take dust counts in various textile departments. J am uuoting from the summary from the Industrial Hygiene Foundation report:- . "This is a reoort of a study undertaken to locate the most iraoortant sources of dust ana to develop additional dust control measures at the Manheim plant of U, o Asbestos Division of Eaybesto s-Kanhattan, Inc . Sixteen dust counts were made in various departments. These samples indicate that conditions in the Picker House are not satisfactory but dustiness in the Carding, Spinning and 'Twisting Depart ments is less than 5 million particles per cubic loot. Recommendations are made that can lead to a reduct on of dustiness in the Picker House as well ns in the Car^in^ De oartment. It is believed that while the card room is under considerable negative pressure the.consequent starvation of the exhaust equipment is probably not in itself sufflcito account for any marked reduction in control of dust. I am also including herewith a record of the dust the various departments. Picker House At Pan Crushers Floor Eatching Batch feeding vertical opener 52 minute sample at central point of room for "general air"-(near vertical opener) counts taken in Particles per c u .f t , 8.7 million 1.7 million 9.9 million 5.6 thill ion ,vM^ Alt pa, . . . I. f\ ~ ho,,. r. lp , , t ..d .. A ..., hr y S-o,.. W . 1 ................... Mu................. . I.. i t , f .y fidilo!. Stats, of MwW! 1st-,v b-- .d.p,-. i $ Jte n 2--Mr S. Simp3on Carding General air conditions at various points in the 3rsaker Card Room General air conditions in Finisher Cara Room ^articles per cu.ft. 4.0 million 2.8 million At a point beside the condensers in Breaker Card Room . 3.8 million At a point near the card condensers in the Finisher Card Room Along central aisle-Finisher Card Room 4,3 million 4.8 million Spinning - At mules At L-Frames on 2nd floor At L-Frames on 1st floor 4.8 million 3.6 million 2.0 million Twisters Average for all aisles Universal Winders 4.0 million 3.0 million In commenting on this report on the phone, Mr. McMahon, Managing Direc tor of the Industrial Hygiene Foundation stated,that the control of dust in this mill was far above the average for an asbestos textile plant. He Indicated that a dust count under 5 million particles per cubic foot is good-. However we recognize that this is a continuing program, and we propose to first correct the conditions in the ricker House at those points where the dust concentration is over 5 million particles per cubic foot. We then propose to make some changes in the card room, which will result in further improvement. We are continuing to experiment with the application of oil to the fibre. We believe that this will result in further improvement throughout the plant. Please consider this as a preliminary report as I plan to advise you from time to time of improvements that have been made. A little later, after we have made some change.s suggested by the Industrial Hygiene Foundation engineer, we shall arrange with Mr. Fehnel, of the Metropolitan Life Insurance Company, to make addi tional dust counts in our various departments. Yours very truly, Ifii v : iS p iili-k ^suuiTioii, *M. M :+ " ) ; ) if*1;!;-*gfftG- i; ; : s ^ | ^ p i S 1: ) me., '^:`' i " " i :; v" .iftal Piifefu2ants iii; '' ) 1 "J' .' ";V ',;;`/ "{f$ if ;$$''' \ Mr jnnn .iniv .n*i.-iv*m :. icn.i. '* ............... " < "1 ;Defendants,) , ) -A:-.i*".); !K '.| Ct aX^,: w :v \ >} ' ''`i ^ 4 l l ^ :' *T' V**V . <iv:v SJ-ja- *,V'#:. -,?-;* . . ..'li:;'^' !'Vrii'';..-vSi'f' ' .*j :'it'N;1. ' P S W f W W * of 'vnnsylyjni, ?t [of iMi--MSi "'-<;v*?sr. * ..%;1.:'''&mL*..? > j;. .'1 :1V'iM`;! ' :> V*5??F r ic i D u ild in q , P ittsh u r ijli, , PfW, ^ J ^ u a r v J . i . ,r; u , {jv1 * .. Vv* -vV1'..,. it 0 < Y * * jt ' gLSflVr': 'T 'i H*HH<X 4f Wtt . ' ' ' .- ... . . . 'ihvr^iV , V !, '. fa11'u :. a p r i s o n '. / ' ': ` \<|i` ` .l' I'A 1">.! 1 ' ' , . i 'jfr-'-'KVi'.v \ One qr two of the things on Dr. Lanza. When did you fir-t V 16 meet and inter-rolate professionally with Dr. Lanza, it 17 you can tell us? 18 1944. ' 19 Whatyas Dr* Lanza doing at that tine? ^ . 20 ^ ' m very active in the Nodical Department of the 21 Metropolitan Life Insurance Company, the Saranac Laboratc-v 22 Ohd Trudeau Foundation, and then or soon after the Schoo> 23 24 Q. 25 of Medicine at New York University. wiut vas the relationship at that time between 3 Metropolitan Life Insurance ComiMny *nd Johns-Hinvillc I 4 and Canadian Johns '\invillc?_ ' l 5 Metropolitan Life carried our jeuor.il in ance, and Z II i. 6 believe in those years it was both occupational and / 7 r.on-occupational insurance in this country. Metropolitan l Ii 8 jLife sponsored surveys in various areas, especially mine i - ' . . ,. i m .* . . . 4 * 9 VQrhers in Quebec, asbestos mines. They carried our 10 fion-occupationa1 group life insurance in Canada. 11 Was the Metropolitan Life Insurance Company a part of the 12 studies begun and continued at Saranac Laboratory? ' -.V':.: . (' `* ` ' 13 Definitely. 25 OCEAN STATE HEALTH RES TEL No. 1 Feb 14,90 15:42 No.002 P.12 Smith - by Mr. Henderson . *%- ** . V -. 31 ' - V,1, 21 22 .23 24 25 , mu^ ^ roore ^roqftent afterwards at Saranac an(J ^ continued, -well, practically litil the; t i n . l e f t "' in '66./ ~ , Wh#t 0th*r inei<Unt* oecurrad which you might be I I* V* able to relate to "us |i*e pieces wiiieh.presented to you .fVji.v that PerSnS 0ther tha" " Ploy were exposed to the hazards of asbestos? iou take me back a few years, but Mrly in with M, in ,.y ,44 to ,47( M#teopoUtaa lifo waa y;'c o s t i n g .personnel.studid. ^of^mpioyiai',, d 1 4 - 1 in Thetford .,,a, to . lesser degree, in oue tn, J t:' e< !* Walking through the town of Asbestos on a dry August toy, you could see little rolls of asb...n. a,- or asoatos fiber rolling ^ tumbleweed, and'yiu ^ i e , ^ ' ithat anybody * U i ,, , the street.; the^rekeeper. or P o l i o s walking his beat o, anybody i,, the house, ,,odd *irbW" * " *-*- !oan-remesber e i i n g atf the edge of our open pit one day Your open pit being -- Jb. asbestos mine. Wa ,,ere standing on the .a,e of.the open pit on:the 'eastern . W The w h o l e ^ of behind " * -- wind, are constantly OCEAN STATE HEALTH RES TEL No. Feb 14,90 15:42 No.002 P.13 54 Smith - by Mr, Boriin a^to the number of perticles per eubic ^ ^ ^ ^ in Asbestos, Ontario? ` '*,\ .... , . ,t . nnottt O0ntrarTio." frame yUr ,Ua6tiQn' .Sir- A,b.eSt.0S' Asfeestos, Quebec. ' ... . , ve. there w e , studies don. continuously concerning the " "" * " in Asbestos. Quebec Whan were these studies? when did m . I don.t h`" *. . 1 don,t toow the exact d--ate.9 ... the., studies be,in? , , ft T Approximately? j.te . K Th* iate -30s, early .40 ,. '" ' ''T"'" *' And they were done on a one on a continuous basis? "> ; *> ^ !nW those studies? f.the MtrPoiitan v *. have possession of" the records of archives of a. end Saranac hake, and probably in ^ hrery of th. ,,ygiene .oration here in Pittsbr,h. Did you ever have an occasion >hrt. . - . aSin to 90 ov^ the results, of se studies at any period of time while' Vl 4*or - time while you were working *or Jhns-Manville? ] \ Iv a n A . S a o u *in , 8 . C .L ..K .C . A n o n G .S a s o u a in , LL.B. /fc* * S ab o u rin & S ab o u rin A norn^ys at Law S A IN T -J E A N ,Q U E . July 6,1951. VIC. C*bl* A d d r.i.'u T lS " T*lpKon*6A6S Dr. Arthur J. Vorwald, M.D., D irector, Trudeau Foundation and The Saranac Laboratory, 7 Church Street, SARANAC LAKE, N.Y. U.S.A. Re: Dear Arthur, * We had an interesting-hearing before the board at Quebec last week which is continued for the time being. ' I had asked George to come down to testify in term s of the appreciation of certain physiological and respiratory data involving lungs, the M ediasetine, etc. George however, could not make the trip. Dr. Lanza was here and contributed greatly towards clearing the prevailing confusion as to this seemingly increasing tendency to accept an alleged'incidence as a fact before same has been scientifically established, even if the possibility of the existence of the incidence can not be denied. He stated one could not say nor deny whether A sbestosis could be related to lung cancer. ;He helped " debunking" certain a lleg ed ' figures, relating to cancer incidence in asbestos workers in the British Isles. ! . Warmesfrregards Ivan A.Sabourin,B.C.L.,K.C. Andr G.SaboURIN.LL.B. Sal) ourin & S ab ourin Allornpys at Law SAINT-JEAN,QUE. * Jllly 6 1951 - CobiAddres',UTIS" Telephono-6868 r. Arthur J. Vorwald, M.D., Irector, Trudeau Foundation and The Saranac Laboratory, 7 Church Street, SARANAC LAKE, N.Y. U.S.A. Re: L abbe/^ ^ Dear Arthur, *. We had an interesting hearing before the board at Quebec last week which is continued for the time being. ' I had asked George to come down to testify in terms of the appreciation of certain physiological and respiratory data involving lungs, the Medizisetine, etc. George however, could not make the trip. Dr. Lanza was here arid contributed greatly towards clearing the prevailing confusion as to this seemingly increasing tendency to accept an alleged' incidence as a jfact before same has been scientifically established, even if the possibility of the existence of the incidence can not be denied. He stated one could not say nor deny whether Asbestosis could be related to lung cancer, jHe helped " debunking" certain alleged figures, relating to cancer incidence in asbestos workers in the British < Isles. IS/sd r / T. February 21, 1952. Dr. Arthur J. Vorwald, Director of Research, The Trudeau Foundation, Saranac Lake, N.X., U.S.A. Re: Alphonse Labb vs Bell Asbestos Mines Ltd. Claim No: 75907 "Cancer and Asbestosis" Dear Dr. Vorwald, For your information, I am pleased to send you the following "confidential" report which as ybu may understand has no official character whatsoever; ' ' '.......... ' . '. j ' ' This case was heard before! the full compensation Board cduring-3 full days;-February 12,' 13, and!, 14, 1952; the Belleipare group had 2 pathologists, 1 epidemiologist, 2 clinicians chesjt men as experts and Mr. Sabourin had Dr. Lanza. The hearing :. -t^ ..ijr! j.n summaryvthe-pathologists have certified that .the cancer 'in 'thejcase jof ....was a pulmonary epithelioma anaplastic o.r|batyceil"carcjioma:/variety Istating that it Was impossible to ................................................... s .The other exDperts cerrttiiffii<ed that the causal \ relationship between asbestosis and cancer of the lungs was probable and even certain;! ; I am anxious to know what Mr. Sabourin will bring in March and I am also anxious to discuss this1case with you at the first opportunity. ` i Yours; very truly, PC/JS Paul Cartier, M.D.